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http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=301540 (which is still available) is also
relevant here, although there the cause is slightly different, the result is the same, and the removal procedure is identical. I doubt very much that MS will offer the hotfix any more - as they aren't delivered in the same way as they were at the time that ME was supported - and anyhow, the best solution is to remove all traces of Symantec software from any ME system (as I know you've already said, Mike). -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the installation of new devices or any app using an inf file. This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 - "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me fell out of extended support in June 2006. [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files"). Does this reveal anything? PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll be at the keyboard tonight. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, C:\Windows\Inf folder: 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE. No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte. OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL Does this indicate something? I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton' Regards John PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John |
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![]() "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the installation of new devices or any app using an inf file. This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 - "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me fell out of extended support in June 2006. [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked 'Hide protected---------' also. Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere? The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575! I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains. files"). Does this reveal anything? PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll be at the keyboard tonight. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, C:\Windows\Inf folder: 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE. No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte. OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL Does this indicate something? I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton' Regards John PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John |
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Oh dear! - what is this obsession that people have with registry cleaners?
Which one did you run? does it store a backup you can use to recover the original position? (If so, the please use it!) Registry cleaners should only be used by those who know enough about the registry that they don't need one ![]() More often than not, when using registry cleaners, the system ends up in a worse state than previously, due to either faults in the cleaners detection process, or faults in its logic. either way, using one as a problem-solving tool is tantamount to throwing out the baby with the bathwater - and then throwing the bath away as well. -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "JohnN" wrote in message . uk... "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the installation of new devices or any app using an inf file. This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 - "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me fell out of extended support in June 2006. [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked 'Hide protected---------' also. Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere? The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575! I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains. files"). Does this reveal anything? PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll be at the keyboard tonight. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Hi Mike, C:\Windows\Inf folder: 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE. No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte. OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL Does this indicate something? I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton' Regards John PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John |
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I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
John, Regrettably I have nothing to add to Noel's comment on the subject. All registry cleaners, like all domestic products from Symantec, should be consigned to the rubbish bin and never go near a computer. I'm at a loss as to why the driver install is hanging and not completing. Something is stopping it. If it were an NT based system such as XP I'd now be looking at registry permissions but that's not a factor on Win 9x systems such as Win Me. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked 'Hide protected---------' also. Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere? The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575! I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains. |
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Hi Mike,
If I were to re-install WinME over the existing Op System, is it possible this may remove problem.However I would want to retain existing files and programs; would this be OK? Regards John "Mike M" wrote in message ... I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains. John, Regrettably I have nothing to add to Noel's comment on the subject. All registry cleaners, like all domestic products from Symantec, should be consigned to the rubbish bin and never go near a computer. I'm at a loss as to why the driver install is hanging and not completing. Something is stopping it. If it were an NT based system such as XP I'd now be looking at registry permissions but that's not a factor on Win 9x systems such as Win Me. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked 'Hide protected---------' also. Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere? The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575! I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains. |
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JohnN wrote:
Hi Mike, If I were to re-install WinME over the existing Op System, is it possible this may remove problem.However I would want to retain existing files and programs; would this be OK? John, Possibly but it depends on how deep seated the problem is. Note however that if you do decide to re-install Win Me over itself there are two essential actions you must take first. The first being to uninstall IE6 if installed otherwise IE and many other associated files will end up as incompatible versions and cause problems not only with IE but other components of the operating system that use those files. Secondly, if you have WMP 9 installed, it is essential that you either delete or rename the file wmploc.dll to say wmploc.old before carrying out the re-install. Noel has some notes (http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk/ME_Gen/r...ver_itself.htm) on re-installing Win Me that you might want to read before you start. -- Mike Maltby |
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Mike wrote:-
..... What continues to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me **you are quite possibly wasting your time.** Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when you run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder in say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps to NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right click and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in the Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then Properties | Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the driver" then click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the folder containing the driver inf file and continue until finished. If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I can't find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such details helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me you are quite possibly wasting your time. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter. Thanks J. |
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Thanks for your comments Mark,
I'm aware of manual text but following the instructions as stated, it depends on having the the correct Install disc for ME(not available); The reason I;m trying to install from downloaded Driver(ME) is because my adapter is XP/Vista compatible and when I follow manual instructions I get message 'Incorrect Op system' as you would expect!;hence need to download suitable driver. John "Mart" wrote in message ... Mike wrote:- ..... What continues to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me **you are quite possibly wasting your time.** Hi Mike & John, 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but although :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44 implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of the User Manual :- http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced" Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation' My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... John, Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when you run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder in say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps to NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right click and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in the Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then Properties | Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the driver" then click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the folder containing the driver inf file and continue until finished. If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I can't find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such details helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me you are quite possibly wasting your time. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter. Thanks J. |
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John,
Nevertheless you should still be able to install the driver regardless of whether it will work with the adapter on Win Me. That is something you have apparently been unable to do up until now on your Win Me system. Until you can get the driver to install (and I have demonstrated to my satisfaction that it will install on a system running Win Me, but cannot determine whether it works or not as I don't have an EW-7318Ug adapter with which to test), there is no point in inserting the usb adapter. I'm tempted to buy an Edimax EW-7318Ug and see it I can get it to work on a Win Me box as I see they are available at CCL Computers for £8.12 including p+p. I'll have to think about it though as my Netgear DG834PN router seems to have died overnight and I've had to drop back to my ISP supplied TG585v7 which I find a horrible bit of kit. -- Mike Maltby JohnN wrote: Thanks for your comments Mark, I'm aware of manual text but following the instructions as stated, it depends on having the the correct Install disc for ME(not available); The reason I;m trying to install from downloaded Driver(ME) is because my adapter is XP/Vista compatible and when I follow manual instructions I get message 'Incorrect Op system' as you would expect!;hence need to download suitable driver. |
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