How to limit amount of physical RAM that Windows accesses for Safe Mode

Hi all,

I'm running W98SE on a computer with 2 GB of RAM.
To be able to do that I had to apply the MaxPhysPage=30000 setting to the
system.ini file like it is mendtioned in KB184478.
After having done a misconfiguration W98SE wants to start in Safe Mode which
means that the MaxPhysPage setting are ignored. Since 2 GB of RAM are too
much for W98SE I get the same error messages that are mentioned in KB184478
when W98SE tries to start in Safe Mode.

How can I limit the amount of physical RAM that Windows accesses for Safe
Mode?

Thanks in advance
Baez

Hi Baez,

To limit memory in Msconfig - Advanced button - Limit memory to.

You may find this helpful also.

Originally Windows Me and Windows 98 were designed to handle 2GB's of
RAM. In reality it will only handle 1 GB of RAM. This will also depend on
hardware installed, in particular the mother board and it's components.
In some cases Win98/ME will function normally with 1.5 GB of RAM.
See the MS KB articles below.

Making the following changes SYSTEM.INI file only limits the memory the
virtual hard drive cache (VCACHE) is allowed to allocate. It does NOT limit
memory available to Windows or other programs.

If the system has 384MB's of RAM installed following line can be
added to the [vcache] section of windows\system.ini file.
MaxFileCache=275000

If the system has 512MB's of RAM installed following line can be
added to the [vcache] section of windows\system.ini file.
MaxFileCache=358000

If the system has 700MB's of RAM or more installed following line MUST be
added to the [vcache] section of windows\system.ini file but never more.
MaxFileCache=512000

If you go over 1GB of RAM and still receive errors add the following line
to the [386enh] section of the System.ini file: MaxPhysPage=40000
This limits the amount of physical RAM that Windows can access
to 1GB. If the errors go away with this setting remove the memory over
1GB as it will not be used with this setting.

Now the question arises, is the increase of RAM going to make my system
faster! Ron Martel [MS MVP] has a technique for determining this.
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca/tips.htm#faster

Windows 95 Can Access Up to Two GB of RAM:
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../q181/5/94.asp

Error Message: Insufficient Memory to Initialize Windows:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;184447

"Out of Memory" Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed:
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q253/9/12.ASP

Computer May Reboot Continuously with More Than 1.5 GB of RAM:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304943

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"Bäz" wrote
Hi all,

I'm running W98SE on a computer with 2 GB of RAM.
To be able to do that I had to apply the MaxPhysPage=30000 setting to the
system.ini file like it is mendtioned in KB184478.
After having done a misconfiguration W98SE wants to start in Safe Mode
which
means that the MaxPhysPage setting are ignored. Since 2 GB of RAM are too
much for W98SE I get the same error messages that are mentioned in
KB184478
when W98SE tries to start in Safe Mode.

How can I limit the amount of physical RAM that Windows accesses for Safe
Mode?

Thanks in advance
Baez

Hi Bert,

thanks for your answer but unfortunately it did not help me. Probably I was
not precise enough.
I.e. the KB # was wrong; I meant KB184447
I had W98SE already running . I changed only the MaxPhysPage. That was
enough.
I got the errors

Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.
Quit one or more memory-resident programs or remove unnecessary
utilities from your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files, and restart your
computer.

when W98SE tried to start in Safe Mode because of my misconfiguration.
That means W98SE was unable to start in Safe Mode.
As far as I know Windows ignores all settings in System.ini and Win.ini to
be able to start in Safe Mode.
With this missing MaxPhysPage setting, of course the amount of physical
memory was too high for starting in Safe Mode.
So my question was how can I set/reduce the amount of RAM for the Safe Mode.

But that's the past. I tried to reinstall it again. Since then I'm facing
SUWIN an error has accurred in your application.
if you choose Ignore, you should save your work in a new file.
If you choose Close, your application will terminate.

SUWIN caused a General Protection Fault in module SUWIN.EXE at 000C:195A
To me that's funny because everything went fine the first time. And I did
not change BIOS settings.

Having a computer is having learning opportunities

Thanks again and regards,
Bäz


"Bert Kinney" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Hi Baez,

To limit memory in Msconfig - Advanced button - Limit memory to.

You may find this helpful also.

Originally Windows Me and Windows 98 were designed to handle 2GB's of
RAM. In reality it will only handle 1 GB of RAM. This will also depend on
hardware installed, in particular the mother board and it's components.
In some cases Win98/ME will function normally with 1.5 GB of RAM.
See the MS KB articles below.

Making the following changes SYSTEM.INI file only limits the memory the
virtual hard drive cache (VCACHE) is allowed to allocate. It does NOT
limit
memory available to Windows or other programs.

If the system has 384MB's of RAM installed following line can be
added to the [vcache] section of windows\system.ini file.
MaxFileCache=275000

If the system has 512MB's of RAM installed following line can be
added to the [vcache] section of windows\system.ini file.
MaxFileCache=358000

If the system has 700MB's of RAM or more installed following line MUST be
added to the [vcache] section of windows\system.ini file but never
more.
MaxFileCache=512000

If you go over 1GB of RAM and still receive errors add the following line
to the [386enh] section of the System.ini file: MaxPhysPage=40000
This limits the amount of physical RAM that Windows can access
to 1GB. If the errors go away with this setting remove the memory over
1GB as it will not be used with this setting.

Now the question arises, is the increase of RAM going to make my system
faster! Ron Martel [MS MVP] has a technique for determining this.
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca/tips.htm#faster

Windows 95 Can Access Up to Two GB of RAM:
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../q181/5/94.asp

Error Message: Insufficient Memory to Initialize Windows:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;184447

"Out of Memory" Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed:
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q253/9/12.ASP

Computer May Reboot Continuously with More Than 1.5 GB of RAM:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304943

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"Bäz" wrote
Hi all,

I'm running W98SE on a computer with 2 GB of RAM.
To be able to do that I had to apply the MaxPhysPage=30000 setting to
the
system.ini file like it is mendtioned in KB184478.
After having done a misconfiguration W98SE wants to start in Safe Mode
which
means that the MaxPhysPage setting are ignored. Since 2 GB of RAM are
too
much for W98SE I get the same error messages that are mentioned in
KB184478
when W98SE tries to start in Safe Mode.

How can I limit the amount of physical RAM that Windows accesses for
Safe
Mode?

Thanks in advance
Baez

You are going to have to remove some of the installed RAM.
Bring it down to 1.5gb and make the changes I suggest. If no
joy, reduce it to 1gb and made the appropriate changes.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"Bäz" wrote
Hi Bert,

thanks for your answer but unfortunately it did not help me. Probably I
was
not precise enough.
I.e. the KB # was wrong; I meant KB184447
I had W98SE already running . I changed only the MaxPhysPage. That was
enough.
I got the errors

Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.
Quit one or more memory-resident programs or remove unnecessary
utilities from your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files, and restart your
computer.

when W98SE tried to start in Safe Mode because of my misconfiguration.
That means W98SE was unable to start in Safe Mode.
As far as I know Windows ignores all settings in System.ini and Win.ini to
be able to start in Safe Mode.
With this missing MaxPhysPage setting, of course the amount of physical
memory was too high for starting in Safe Mode.
So my question was how can I set/reduce the amount of RAM for the Safe
Mode.

But that's the past. I tried to reinstall it again. Since then I'm facing
SUWIN an error has accurred in your application.
if you choose Ignore, you should save your work in a new file.
If you choose Close, your application will terminate.

SUWIN caused a General Protection Fault in module SUWIN.EXE at
000C:195A
To me that's funny because everything went fine the first time. And I did
not change BIOS settings.

Having a computer is having learning opportunities

Thanks again and regards,
Bäz


"Bert Kinney" wrote
Hi Baez,

To limit memory in Msconfig - Advanced button - Limit memory to.

You may find this helpful also.

Originally Windows Me and Windows 98 were designed to handle 2GB's of
RAM. In reality it will only handle 1 GB of RAM. This will also depend
on
hardware installed, in particular the mother board and it's components.
In some cases Win98/ME will function normally with 1.5 GB of RAM.
See the MS KB articles below.

Making the following changes SYSTEM.INI file only limits the memory the
virtual hard drive cache (VCACHE) is allowed to allocate. It does NOT
limit
memory available to Windows or other programs.

If the system has 384MB's of RAM installed following line can be
added to the [vcache] section of windows\system.ini file.
MaxFileCache=275000

If the system has 512MB's of RAM installed following line can be
added to the [vcache] section of windows\system.ini file.
MaxFileCache=358000

If the system has 700MB's of RAM or more installed following line MUST
be
added to the [vcache] section of windows\system.ini file but never
more.
MaxFileCache=512000

If you go over 1GB of RAM and still receive errors add the following
line
to the [386enh] section of the System.ini file: MaxPhysPage=40000
This limits the amount of physical RAM that Windows can access
to 1GB. If the errors go away with this setting remove the memory over
1GB as it will not be used with this setting.

Now the question arises, is the increase of RAM going to make my system
faster! Ron Martel [MS MVP] has a technique for determining this.
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca/tips.htm#faster

Windows 95 Can Access Up to Two GB of RAM:
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../q181/5/94.asp

Error Message: Insufficient Memory to Initialize Windows:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;184447

"Out of Memory" Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed:
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q253/9/12.ASP

Computer May Reboot Continuously with More Than 1.5 GB of RAM:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304943

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

"Bäz" wrote
Hi all,

I'm running W98SE on a computer with 2 GB of RAM.
To be able to do that I had to apply the MaxPhysPage=30000 setting to
the
system.ini file like it is mendtioned in KB184478.
After having done a misconfiguration W98SE wants to start in Safe Mode
which
means that the MaxPhysPage setting are ignored. Since 2 GB of RAM are
too
much for W98SE I get the same error messages that are mentioned in
KB184478
when W98SE tries to start in Safe Mode.

How can I limit the amount of physical RAM that Windows accesses for
Safe
Mode?

Thanks in advance
Baez