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"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Hmmm... That's the second REPOST this morning, at least. Did you actually repost this or was it some bot? This newsgroup is censored, or filtered if you prefer that word. Quote from the headers of the REPOSTS: "X-Reposted-By: X-Comments: This article is being re-posted. It was canceled X-Comments: in error. For more information, please contact: X-Comments: ." |
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I haven't reposted anything, so it must be a bot. As Hugh mentioned, the headers
show some info about the repost, but I notice in another thread, one of *your* posts is reposted, and contains the same info reposting by mindspring, in the headers. I dunno what is going on with this. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ http://aumha.org/alex.htm http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Hmmm... That's the second REPOST this morning, at least. Did you actually repost this or was it some bot? -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message x.gbl... You most likely need to overinstall Internet Explorer, as we have mentioned, if scanreg/restore did not help. You have been unable to do so using any method. Get another CD drive that is not broken, and over-install your version of IE from a CD...either from an AOL or magazine CD, or order a CD he http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/46 Otherwise, pay $35....I would be very interested to see how they tell you to fix it, without formatting and reinstalling clean. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ http://aumha.org/alex.htm http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "tgregg99" wrote in message news All ... I've tried everything you've asked to do. I've been patient. Yet, I still have no Windows98 desktop/icons upon booting. And, yes, my CD drive does not work -- it's broken. Is there any hope to restore my Windows98 desktop/icons? If you have no other recommendations, then I will call MS tech support and spend the $35 with the understanding I will get it refunded if tech support is not able to resolve my problem, is that correct? Thank you! Terry "PCR" wrote: Too bad. You cannot do that article then, w/o .cab's on the hard drive or an Installation CD. You must get your CD working & try what Glee suggests. Don't you get those AOL CD's in the mail every other day? -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "tgregg99" wrote in message ... | i went to DOS prompt, and I entered 'DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p' .... and | after a few minutes of processing, I got the following message: 'Directory | of C:\ File Not Found 57,864,192 bytes free' | | "PCR" wrote: | | At a DOS prompt, try... | | DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p (That's *-dot-cab) | | If you have 55 of them, then the folder that contains them could be used | per the following article... | | This appears to recover IE/Explorer piecemeal, if the over-install will | never work... | http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98 | Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe | (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install | Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following: | Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F: | 00401F31 | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | ... | | You are correct - my mistake - it IS 'iexplore.exe' (not | 'explorer.exe') in | | my c:\progra~1\intern~2. that said, i could not open it by either | double | | clicking the icon next to the program name or by using Run. | | | | I verified via using DOS command that you sent me -- 'C:\DIR /s /a | | C:\EXPLORER.EXE' that it IS located in 'C:\WINDOWS' with the exact | file size | | as you stated .. 180,224. btw, i tried the extract commands you sent | and | | nothing happened, as i got 'File not found' or nothing happened or | 'Error: | | Cannot open file' .. i checked my strings very carefully each time and | | repeated but got the same messages. | | | | your instructions, C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdte folder tree does | NOT | | exist on my c: drive directory. I DO have C:\Windows .. but NO | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree. | | I looked under C:\Windows and I still could not find 'ie6setup.exe' | .... | | So... I searched my C: drive folders and I DID find 'ie6setup.exe' | file in | | 'C:\mydown~1' .. but I could NOT open it either by double clicking the | icon | | or via using the Run prompt. When i clicked the icon, i got an error | message | | "Extracting file failed. It is likely caused by low memory or | corrupted | | Cabinet file.' I checked my memory via DOS command and it appeared to | be | | normal. I also checked the 'Properties' or the 'ie6setup.exe' file | and it | | was '6.00.2800.1106 .. 490,608 bytes. | | | | I tried your option uninstalling IE6 by entering in the Run | prompt: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance but the option to "Restore the | previous | | Windows configuration" on the resultant menu that was displayed was | grayed | | out/disabled. | | | | And I tried the IE6 repair command you sent again but nothing happened | when | | i selected the "Repair IE Explorer" (my words, not sure exact words). | When I | | tried 'Add a Component' I got an error message "Cannot find Windows | Update | | Setup Files on this computer. Please choose Windows Update under your | IE | | Tools menu to add components to IE.' Of course, I cannot do this as I | cannot | | get an icon on desktop or launch 'ie6setup.exe' as noted above. I | believe | | there was a 3rd option but it was grayed out/disabled. | | | | So ... it "appears" I have 'EXPLORER.EXE' and 'ie6setup.exe' files .... | but I | | still have no desktop/icons upon re-booting Windows98. I tried | replacing | | 'Shell=Winfile' with 'Shell=Explorer.exe' and rebooting, but still | nothing. | | And i tried again via DOS to scanreg /restrore and selecting the last | | registry on the list (it always specifies 'Started' and is a date | right | | before my problem occurred) but again no desktop/icons upon re-booting | | Windows98. | | | | I hope this helps you .. help me. I am trying to avoid calling and | paying | | the $35 but will if I absolutely have to. I am currently unemployed | so your | | online support really helps me out right now. Thank you. | | | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Please make sure you are telling us the right names of the files you | are referring | | to. There is no "explorer.exe" in the location | "c:\progra~1\intern~2".....the file | | there would be iexplore.exe, and there may be also an | "ie6setup.exe". Post back | | with the correct information please. | | | | The instructions given were to find "ie6setup.exe" and run it if | found, choosing | | Minimal-Custom and selecting the items already in bold print. Did | you find | | "ie6setup.exe" in the location "c:\progra~1\intern~2" or any of its | sub-folders? | | You can also look for it in the C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate | folder tree, or the | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree......I forget | which it may be in, | | as I usually install IE from CD rather than from a download. In | fact, if you cannot | | find the setup file in any of those locations, you may have IE6 SP1 | on a CD | | somewhere, as it often is included on CD's in magazines. | | | | Another option is to uninstall IE6 by pasting the following line | into the Run | | dialog: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance | | and choosing the option to "Restore the previous Windows | configuration" from the | | menu that appears. After that, install IE6 either from a CD or from | download, | | assuming that this allows you to boot normally again. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | | ... | | Gary/Glen ... here's what I've done since last communication: | | | | 1. I booted up, went to Command Prompt Only and entered 'edit | | c:\windows\system.ini' then changed 'Shell=Progman.exe' to | | 'Shell=Winfile.exe' as you suggested, then I saved and exited and | re-booted. | | | | 2. This time the File Manager window was displayed with directory | of | | folders and files. I then tried the IE6 repair command by | entering the | | command you sent me for IE6 in the Run prompt. A pop up was | displayed asking | | me to Repair IE or Add a Component. I tried both. When i | selected Repair | | IE, nothing happened. When I selected Add a Component, I got an | error | | message saying I needed to go to a Windows menu I did not see. So | I rebooted | | again. | | | | 3. I replaced the 'Shell=Winfile.exe' back to | 'Shell='Progman.exe' and | | rebooted. This time I noticed I did not get the subject error | message and | | the 'Program Manager - Accessories' window was displayed (which | did not | | display the first time i changed the shell to 'Progman.exe' | earlier and | | rebooted). So I went to c:\progra~1\intern~2\explorer.exe and | tried to | | launch the explorer.exe program -- i was able to double click on | it, and when | | i did, the hourglass was displayed for a short time appearing to | be | | processing something, but nothing happened, and i tried to launch | it from the | | Run command promt on same window -- but again, nothing happened. | when i | | clicked the setup file, nothing happened at all. But I checked | the | | Properties of the 'Explorer.exe' file and it specified version | 6.00.2800.1106 | | .. 94,208 bytes, last changed 8/11/03. I turned off the pc. | | | | So while it "appears" I have all my standard Windows programs in | the c: | | directory on the Program Manager - Accessories window, I still | have no | | desktop icons and no programs are launching. | | | | Thoughts? | | | | p.s. I realize you may not be able to call me, but in the event | that you | | can, my number is 404-329-0959. I'll be leaving the library | within the hour | | to go home. I'll check my email up until that time. And I'll | check back to | | this thread tomorrow morning if I don't hear from you beforehand. | | | | Thanks for your continued support!!!! | | | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Thanks Gary....I am at work (on lunch right now), and can't get | back to this | | thread | | for a few hours. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message | | ... | | Again, be very careful not to do anything more than run IE | Repair using | | Winfile.exe for a Shell. Long filenames can easily be messed | up. Also, | | if IE Repair doesn't fix the problem (after re-editing | System.ini back | | to using Explorer.exe for a Shell) then the next step is to | | force-reinstall IE. You do this by again switching to | Shell=Winfile.exe | | and then finding Setup.exe in the Internet Explorer folder | (usually | | C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer) and running it. Choose | "Add | | Components" (or "Minimal or Custom Installation" if that's the | option | | that offers itself.) Then put a check mark for every item that | is bolded | | (already installed) and continue. If you haven't previously | deleted the | | setup files (usually in C:\Windows Updates Setup Files") then | this will | | probably be a smooth operation. If you don't have the | installation files | | on hand, it will be necessary to connect to the internet to | download | | them, and that can be problematic, depending on your system. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | news | | Gary, | | | | I'm at the library and about to leave for home, where I'll | follow your | | recommendation. I won't give up. I'm very methodical, and | I take | | great care | | in following the procedures (i'm a project manager and | technical | | writer :-) | | .. anyways, I'll follow up with you later this afternoon | with my | | results. | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | Try Shell=Winfile.exe, as suggested. | | | | And don't give up. We're giving you answers step-by-step, | and when | | one | | thing doesn't work, that tends to provide hints as to what | to do | | next. | | IOW, just because some suggestion doesn't bear immediate | fruit, | | doesn't | | mean it didn't need to be done. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | ... | | Gary, | | | | I did change 'Shell=Explorer.exe' to 'Shell=Progman.exe' | but upon | | re-booting, the following error was displayed: | | | | 'Error loading Program.exe. You must reinstall | Windows.' | | | | so, what can i do now? | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | As explained in the references Glen gave you earlier, | you use | | the | | Command Prompt Only boot to edit System.ini and change | the | | "Shell=Explorer.exe" line to: | | | | Shell=Progman.exe | | | | Then restart and you will possibly be able to boot to | Windows | | without | | having to load Explorer.exe. From there, you run t he | IE Repair | | or | | reinstall IE as needed. If Shell=progman.exe doesn't | work, try | | Shell=Winfile.exe. But be very careful when using | these modes, | | and | | only | | use them to perform these limited tasks, as they can | mess up the | | file | | system if you do certain things, particularly | Copy/Paste/Move | | operations. When the IE Repair or reinstallation are | completed, | | re-edit | | System.ini to restore normal Shell to Explorer.exe. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote | in message | | | ... | | Glen, | | | | Thanks. I had no luck by trying to restore the most | recent | | registry | | backups | | -- i tried every one listed, which went back a coupe | days | | before | | my | | problem | | -- still, this didn't work. | | | | I'm confused about ... | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | .. the IE repair tool instructions assumed i could | click | | Start .. | | Run | | .... | | but I can't. so I can only get to a command prompt | and use | | DOS | | .... so | | how do | | i reinstall IE from the DOS command prompt? | | | | Thanks .. looking forward to your | answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Each time you use a different .cab file backup in | scanreg | | /restore, | | you are | | replacing the Registry with the one using that | dat, and | | "going | | back" | | to that date as | | far as the Registry is concerned. So, if none of | the | | restores | | helped the problem, | | you should go back and restore the most recent | backup prior | | to | | when | | you began the | | restoring experiment (Of course, if you onlty went | back a | | couple | | of | | days, there | | should not be much difference other than the | entries for the | | updates | | you did). | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | Post back with your results. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" | wrote in | | message | | | ... | | Glee ... | | | | I tried using DOS command 'scanreg /restore' and | selecting | | the | | backup | | (rb###.cab files) -- i tried each one, rebooting | each | | time, | | but | | that didn't | | work. I also used the DOS command to 'edit the | | c:\windows\system.ini' file | | and replaced 'explorer.exe' with 'progman.exe' | where you | | told | | me, | | then saved | | and rebooted, then got an error that | 'progman.exe could | | not be | | found, must | | reinstall windows' or something to that effect. | | | | One other thing i forgot to mention. I | downloaded Windows | | updates | | to my pc, | | the night before my Windows crashed. One or two | of the | | updates | | were for IE6. | | | | Any other suggestions? Thank you for helping me | with | | this!!!! | | | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Before trying the procedure mentioned in my | first reply, | | you | | may | | want to try | | this | | first: | | Boot to DOS Mode by accessing the boot menu at | startup | | and | | selecting Command | | Prompt | | Only (you get to the boot menu the same way | you get to | | it | | when | | you selected Safe | | Mode). | | At the DOS Prompt, type: | | scanreg /restore | | and press Enter. | | Select one of the backups (rb###.cab files) | dated JUST | | prior | | to | | when the problem | | occurred. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "glee" wrote in | message | | | ... | | Follow the procedures he | | Recovering From a Failed Internet Explorer | Upgrade in | | Windows | | 98: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://www.cs.bsu.edu/~gjjones/admin...nd ows98.html | | or | | http://tinyurl.com/r5ba | | | | Especially this section at the end: | | | | "If you still have boot problems after you | reboot, you | | should | | use the command | | prompt | | to edit the c:\windows\system.ini file. On | the command | | line | | type edit | | c:\windows\system.ini. | | | | "Once it is open, change the line | shell=explorer.exe | | to | | shell=progman.exe. | | What | | you | | are doing here is changing the default shell | (that is | | having | | problems) from | | the | | Windows Explorer to the old Windows Program | Manager | | shell. | | | | "Reboot Windows. It should now successfully | boot with | | no | | errors into an empty | | Program Manager shell. Use the File | Run | | Browse | | drop | | down | | menu selection to | | browse to c:\program files\internet explorer | and | | launch | | ie5setup.exe or | | ie6setup.exe | | (depending on what is there). Do a custom | install and | | check | | all the Bold faced | | options. When the setup program alerts you | that these | | files | | are already | | installed, | | tell it to reinstall all of the files. | | | | "When the Internet Explorer Setup program is | done and | | reboots, | | hit the F8 key | | to | | bring up a Boot Menu. Choose Command Prompt | and boot | | to | | the | | command prompt. | | Once | | there, type edit c:\windows\system.ini and, | once it is | | open, | | change the line | | shell=progman.exe back to | shell=explorer.exe. Save and | | exit | | the file. You have | | now | | set the shell back to the original value." | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" | wrote | | in | | message | | | | news | | Can someone please help me resolve my | problem? Upon | | starting MS Windows 98, | | I see the MS Windows screen then it | appears to start | | loading | | programs as | | usual, then i get the above ERROR message. | I then | | restarted | | via SAFE mode, | | but there were no desktop icons. Upon | checking | | Program | | Manager, I only see | | 'Runapp' and no other programs listed. I | checked my | | memory | | via DOS prompt, | | and everything looks normal (but I really | am not a | | DOS | | user, | | so I'm limited | | in my ability to use DOS commands). I | restarted | | again | | and | | tried step by | | step | | confirmation, but again, I only get the | above ERROR | | message. | | | | I don't have the CD - or - the diskettes | for loading | | MS | | Windows 98. Is | | there a way to restore my MS Windows 98 | otherwise? | | | | I appreciate your time and help very much | ... thank | | you!!! | | | | Terry | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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LOL! I seldom see my own posts, since they're marked "Read" as soon as
they come in. Mindspring's news server having indigestion, perhaps? -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message ... I haven't reposted anything, so it must be a bot. As Hugh mentioned, the headers show some info about the repost, but I notice in another thread, one of *your* posts is reposted, and contains the same info reposting by mindspring, in the headers. I dunno what is going on with this. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ http://aumha.org/alex.htm http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Hmmm... That's the second REPOST this morning, at least. Did you actually repost this or was it some bot? -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message x.gbl... You most likely need to overinstall Internet Explorer, as we have mentioned, if scanreg/restore did not help. You have been unable to do so using any method. Get another CD drive that is not broken, and over-install your version of IE from a CD...either from an AOL or magazine CD, or order a CD he http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/46 Otherwise, pay $35....I would be very interested to see how they tell you to fix it, without formatting and reinstalling clean. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ http://aumha.org/alex.htm http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "tgregg99" wrote in message news All ... I've tried everything you've asked to do. I've been patient. Yet, I still have no Windows98 desktop/icons upon booting. And, yes, my CD drive does not work -- it's broken. Is there any hope to restore my Windows98 desktop/icons? If you have no other recommendations, then I will call MS tech support and spend the $35 with the understanding I will get it refunded if tech support is not able to resolve my problem, is that correct? Thank you! Terry "PCR" wrote: Too bad. You cannot do that article then, w/o .cab's on the hard drive or an Installation CD. You must get your CD working & try what Glee suggests. Don't you get those AOL CD's in the mail every other day? -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "tgregg99" wrote in message ... | i went to DOS prompt, and I entered 'DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p' .... and | after a few minutes of processing, I got the following message: 'Directory | of C:\ File Not Found 57,864,192 bytes free' | | "PCR" wrote: | | At a DOS prompt, try... | | DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p (That's *-dot-cab) | | If you have 55 of them, then the folder that contains them could be used | per the following article... | | This appears to recover IE/Explorer piecemeal, if the over-install will | never work... | http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98 | Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe | (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install | Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following: | Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F: | 00401F31 | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | ... | | You are correct - my mistake - it IS 'iexplore.exe' (not | 'explorer.exe') in | | my c:\progra~1\intern~2. that said, i could not open it by either | double | | clicking the icon next to the program name or by using Run. | | | | I verified via using DOS command that you sent me -- 'C:\DIR /s /a | | C:\EXPLORER.EXE' that it IS located in 'C:\WINDOWS' with the exact | file size | | as you stated .. 180,224. btw, i tried the extract commands you sent | and | | nothing happened, as i got 'File not found' or nothing happened or | 'Error: | | Cannot open file' .. i checked my strings very carefully each time and | | repeated but got the same messages. | | | | your instructions, C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdte folder tree does | NOT | | exist on my c: drive directory. I DO have C:\Windows .. but NO | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree. | | I looked under C:\Windows and I still could not find 'ie6setup.exe' | .... | | So... I searched my C: drive folders and I DID find 'ie6setup.exe' | file in | | 'C:\mydown~1' .. but I could NOT open it either by double clicking the | icon | | or via using the Run prompt. When i clicked the icon, i got an error | message | | "Extracting file failed. It is likely caused by low memory or | corrupted | | Cabinet file.' I checked my memory via DOS command and it appeared to | be | | normal. I also checked the 'Properties' or the 'ie6setup.exe' file | and it | | was '6.00.2800.1106 .. 490,608 bytes. | | | | I tried your option uninstalling IE6 by entering in the Run | prompt: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance but the option to "Restore the | previous | | Windows configuration" on the resultant menu that was displayed was | grayed | | out/disabled. | | | | And I tried the IE6 repair command you sent again but nothing happened | when | | i selected the "Repair IE Explorer" (my words, not sure exact words). | When I | | tried 'Add a Component' I got an error message "Cannot find Windows | Update | | Setup Files on this computer. Please choose Windows Update under your | IE | | Tools menu to add components to IE.' Of course, I cannot do this as I | cannot | | get an icon on desktop or launch 'ie6setup.exe' as noted above. I | believe | | there was a 3rd option but it was grayed out/disabled. | | | | So ... it "appears" I have 'EXPLORER.EXE' and 'ie6setup.exe' files .... | but I | | still have no desktop/icons upon re-booting Windows98. I tried | replacing | | 'Shell=Winfile' with 'Shell=Explorer.exe' and rebooting, but still | nothing. | | And i tried again via DOS to scanreg /restrore and selecting the last | | registry on the list (it always specifies 'Started' and is a date | right | | before my problem occurred) but again no desktop/icons upon re-booting | | Windows98. | | | | I hope this helps you .. help me. I am trying to avoid calling and | paying | | the $35 but will if I absolutely have to. I am currently unemployed | so your | | online support really helps me out right now. Thank you. | | | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Please make sure you are telling us the right names of the files you | are referring | | to. There is no "explorer.exe" in the location | "c:\progra~1\intern~2".....the file | | there would be iexplore.exe, and there may be also an | "ie6setup.exe". Post back | | with the correct information please. | | | | The instructions given were to find "ie6setup.exe" and run it if | found, choosing | | Minimal-Custom and selecting the items already in bold print. Did | you find | | "ie6setup.exe" in the location "c:\progra~1\intern~2" or any of its | sub-folders? | | You can also look for it in the C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate | folder tree, or the | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree......I forget | which it may be in, | | as I usually install IE from CD rather than from a download. In | fact, if you cannot | | find the setup file in any of those locations, you may have IE6 SP1 | on a CD | | somewhere, as it often is included on CD's in magazines. | | | | Another option is to uninstall IE6 by pasting the following line | into the Run | | dialog: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance | | and choosing the option to "Restore the previous Windows | configuration" from the | | menu that appears. After that, install IE6 either from a CD or from | download, | | assuming that this allows you to boot normally again. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | | ... | | Gary/Glen ... here's what I've done since last communication: | | | | 1. I booted up, went to Command Prompt Only and entered 'edit | | c:\windows\system.ini' then changed 'Shell=Progman.exe' to | | 'Shell=Winfile.exe' as you suggested, then I saved and exited and | re-booted. | | | | 2. This time the File Manager window was displayed with directory | of | | folders and files. I then tried the IE6 repair command by | entering the | | command you sent me for IE6 in the Run prompt. A pop up was | displayed asking | | me to Repair IE or Add a Component. I tried both. When i | selected Repair | | IE, nothing happened. When I selected Add a Component, I got an | error | | message saying I needed to go to a Windows menu I did not see. So | I rebooted | | again. | | | | 3. I replaced the 'Shell=Winfile.exe' back to | 'Shell='Progman.exe' and | | rebooted. This time I noticed I did not get the subject error | message and | | the 'Program Manager - Accessories' window was displayed (which | did not | | display the first time i changed the shell to 'Progman.exe' | earlier and | | rebooted). So I went to c:\progra~1\intern~2\explorer.exe and | tried to | | launch the explorer.exe program -- i was able to double click on | it, and when | | i did, the hourglass was displayed for a short time appearing to | be | | processing something, but nothing happened, and i tried to launch | it from the | | Run command promt on same window -- but again, nothing happened. | when i | | clicked the setup file, nothing happened at all. But I checked | the | | Properties of the 'Explorer.exe' file and it specified version | 6.00.2800.1106 | | .. 94,208 bytes, last changed 8/11/03. I turned off the pc. | | | | So while it "appears" I have all my standard Windows programs in | the c: | | directory on the Program Manager - Accessories window, I still | have no | | desktop icons and no programs are launching. | | | | Thoughts? | | | | p.s. I realize you may not be able to call me, but in the event | that you | | can, my number is 404-329-0959. I'll be leaving the library | within the hour | | to go home. I'll check my email up until that time. And I'll | check back to | | this thread tomorrow morning if I don't hear from you beforehand. | | | | Thanks for your continued support!!!! | | | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Thanks Gary....I am at work (on lunch right now), and can't get | back to this | | thread | | for a few hours. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message | | ... | | Again, be very careful not to do anything more t han run IE | Repair using | | Winfile.exe for a Shell. Long filenames can easily be messed | up. Also, | | if IE Repair doesn't fix the problem (after re-editing | System.ini back | | to using Explorer.exe for a Shell) then the next step is to | | force-reinstall IE. You do this by again switching to | Shell=Winfile.exe | | and then finding Setup.exe in the Internet Explorer folder | (usually | | C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer) and running it. Choose | "Add | | Components" (or "Minimal or Custom Installation" if that's the | option | | that offers itself.) Then put a check mark for every item that | is bolded | | (already installed) and continue. If you haven't previously | deleted the | | setup files (usually in C:\Windows Updates Setup Files") then | this will | | probably be a smooth operation. If you don't have the | installation files | | on hand, it will be necessary to connect to the internet to | download | | them, and that can be problematic, depending on your system. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | news | | Gary, | | | | I'm at the library and about to leave for home, where I'll | follow your | | recommendation. I won't give up. I'm very methodical, and | I take | | great care | | in following the procedures (i'm a project manager and | technical | | writer :-) | | .. anyways, I'll follow up with you later this afternoon | with my | | results. | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | Try Shell=Winfile.exe, as suggested. | | | | And don't give up. We're giving you answers step-by-step, | and when | | one | | thing doesn't work, that tends to provide hints as to what | to do | | next. | | IOW, just because some suggestion doesn't bear immediate | fruit, | | doesn't | | mean it didn't need to be done. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | ... | | Gary, | | | | I did change 'Shell=Explorer.exe' to 'Shell=Progman.exe' | but upon | | re-booting, the following error was displayed: | | | | 'Error loading Program.exe. You must reinstall | Windows.' | | | | so, what can i do now? | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | As explained in the references Glen gave you earlier, | you use | | the | | Command Prompt Only boot to edit System.ini and change | the | | "Shell=Explorer.exe" line to: | | | | Shell=Progman.exe | | | | Then restart and you will possibly be able to boot to | Windows | | without | | having to load Explorer.exe. From there, you run t he | IE Repair | | or | | reinstall IE as needed. If Shell=progman.exe doesn't | work, try | | Shell=Winfile.exe. But be very careful when using | these modes, | | and | | only | | use them to perform these limited tasks, as they can | mess up the | | file | | system if you do certain things, particularly | Copy/Paste/Move | | operations. When the IE Repair or reinstallation are | completed, | | re-edit | | System.ini to restore normal Shell to Explorer.exe. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote | in message | | | ... | | Glen, | | | | Thanks. I had no luck by trying to restore the most | recent | | registry | | backups | | -- i tried every one listed, which went back a coupe | days | | before | | my | | problem | | -- still, this didn't work. | | | | I'm confused about ... | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | .. the IE repair tool instructions assumed i could | click | | Start .. | | Run | | .... | | but I can't. so I can only get to a command prompt | and use | | DOS | | .... so | | how do | | i reinstall IE from the DOS command prompt? | | | | Thanks .. looking forward to your | answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Each time you use a different .cab file backup in | scanreg | | /restore, | | you are | | replacing the Registry with the one using that | dat, and | | "going | | back" | | to that date as | | far as the Registry is concerned. So, if none of | the | | restores | | helped the problem, | | you should go back and restore the most recent | backup prior | | to | | when | | you began the | | restoring experiment (Of course, if you onlty went | back a | | couple | | of | | days, there | | should not be much difference other than the | entries for the | | updates | | you did). | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | Post back with your results. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" | wrote in | | message | | | ... | | Glee ... | | | | I tried using DOS command 'scanreg /restore' and | selecting | | the | | backup | | (rb###.cab files) -- i tried each one, rebooting | each | | time, | | but | | that didn't | | work. I also used the DOS command to 'edit the | | c:\windows\system.ini' file | | and replaced 'explorer.exe' with 'progman.exe' | where you | | told | | me, | | then saved | | and rebooted, then got an error that | 'progman.exe could | | not be | | found, must | | reinstall windows' or something to that effect. | | | | One other thing i forgot to mention. I | downloaded Windows | | updates | | to my pc, | | the night before my Windows crashed. One or two | of the | | updates | | were for IE6. | | | | Any other suggestions? Thank you for helping me | with | | this!!!! | | | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Before trying the procedure mentioned in my | first reply, | | you | | may | | want to try | | this | | first: | | Boot to DOS Mode by accessing the boot menu at | startup | | and | | selecting Command | | Prompt | | Only (you get to the boot menu the same way | you get to | | it | | when | | you selected Safe | | Mode). | | At the DOS Prompt, type: | | scanreg /restore | | and press Enter. | | Select one of the backups (rb###.cab files) | dated JUST | | prior | | to | | when the problem | | occurred. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "glee" wrote in | message | | | ... | | Follow the procedures he | | Recovering From a Failed Internet Explorer | Upgrade in | | Windows | | 98: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://www.cs.bsu.edu/~gjjones/admin...nd ows98.html | | or | | http://tinyurl.com/r5ba | | | | Especially this section at the end: | | | | "If you still have boot problems after you | reboot, you | | should | | use the command | | prompt | | to edit the c:\windows\system.ini file. On | the command | | line | | type edit | | c:\windows\system.ini. | | | | "Once it is open, change the line | shell=explorer.exe | | to | | shell=progman.exe. | | What | | you | | are doing here is changing the default shell | (that is | | having | | problems) from | | the | | Windows Explorer to the old Windows Program | Manager | | shell. | | | | "Reboot Windows. It should now successfully | boot with | | no | | errors into an empty | | Program Manager shell. Use the File | Run | | Browse | | drop | | down | | menu selection to | | browse to c:\program files\internet explorer | and | | launch | | ie5setup.exe or | | ie6setup.exe | | (depending on what is there). Do a custom | install and | | check | | all the Bold faced | | options. When the setup program alerts you | that these | | files | | are already | | installed, | | tell it to reinstall all of the files. | | | | "When the Internet Explorer Setup program is | done and | | reboots, | | hit the F8 key | | to | | bring up a Boot Menu. Choose Command Prompt | and boot | | to | | the | | command prompt. | | Once | | there, type edit c:\windows\system.ini and, | once it is | | open, | | change the line | | shell=progman.exe back to | shell=explorer.exe. Save and | | exit | | the file. You have | | now | | set the shell back to the original value." | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" | wrote | | in | | message | | | | news | | Can someone please help me resolve my | problem? Upon | | starting MS Windows 98, | | I see the MS Windows screen then it | appears to start | | loading | | programs as | | usual, then i get the above ERROR message. | I then | | restarted | | via SAFE mode, | | but there were no desktop icons. Upon | checking | | Program | | Manager, I only see | | 'Runapp' and no other programs listed. I | checked my | | memory | | via DOS prompt, | | and everything looks normal (but I really | am not a | | DOS | | user, | | so I'm limited | | in my ability to use DOS commands). I | restarted | | again | | and | | tried step by | | step | | confirmation, but again, I only get the | above ERROR | | message. | | | | I don't have the CD - or - the diskettes | for loading | | MS | | Windows 98. Is | | there a way to restore my MS Windows 98 | otherwise? | | | | I appreciate your time and help very much | ... thank | | you!!! | | | | Terry | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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my ISP, so I post using my Mindspring account, but I do NOT use their news server. I access the groups directly through msnews.microsoft.com server. Strange....... -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ http://aumha.org/alex.htm http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... LOL! I seldom see my own posts, since they're marked "Read" as soon as they come in. Mindspring's news server having indigestion, perhaps? -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message ... I haven't reposted anything, so it must be a bot. As Hugh mentioned, the headers show some info about the repost, but I notice in another thread, one of *your* posts is reposted, and contains the same info reposting by mindspring, in the headers. I dunno what is going on with this. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ http://aumha.org/alex.htm http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Hmmm... That's the second REPOST this morning, at least. Did you actually repost this or was it some bot? -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message x.gbl... You most likely need to overinstall Internet Explorer, as we have mentioned, if scanreg/restore did not help. You have been unable to do so using any method. Get another CD drive that is not broken, and over-install your version of IE from a CD...either from an AOL or magazine CD, or order a CD he http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/46 Otherwise, pay $35....I would be very interested to see how they tell you to fix it, without formatting and reinstalling clean. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ http://aumha.org/alex.htm http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "tgregg99" wrote in message news All ... I've tried everything you've asked to do. I've been patient. Yet, I still have no Windows98 desktop/icons upon booting. And, yes, my CD drive does not work -- it's broken. Is there any hope to restore my Windows98 desktop/icons? If you have no other recommendations, then I will call MS tech support and spend the $35 with the understanding I will get it refunded if tech support is not able to resolve my problem, is that correct? Thank you! Terry "PCR" wrote: Too bad. You cannot do that article then, w/o .cab's on the hard drive or an Installation CD. You must get your CD working & try what Glee suggests. Don't you get those AOL CD's in the mail every other day? -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "tgregg99" wrote in message ... | i went to DOS prompt, and I entered 'DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p' .... and | after a few minutes of processing, I got the following message: 'Directory | of C:\ File Not Found 57,864,192 bytes free' | | "PCR" wrote: | | At a DOS prompt, try... | | DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p (That's *-dot-cab) | | If you have 55 of them, then the folder that contains them could be used | per the following article... | | This appears to recover IE/Explorer piecemeal, if the over-install will | never work... | http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98 | Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe | (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install | Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following: | Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F: | 00401F31 | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | ... | | You are correct - my mistake - it IS 'iexplore.exe' (not | 'explorer.exe') in | | my c:\progra~1\intern~2. that said, i could not open it by either | double | | clicking the icon next to the program name or by using Run. | | | | I verified via using DOS command that you sent me -- 'C:\DIR /s /a | | C:\EXPLORER.EXE' that it IS located in 'C:\WINDOWS' with the exact | file size | | as you stated .. 180,224. btw, i tried the extract commands you sent | and | | nothing happened, as i got 'File not found' or nothing happened or | 'Error: | | Cannot open file' .. i checked my strings very carefully each time and | | repeated but got the same messages. | | | | your instructions, C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdte folder tree does | NOT | | exist on my c: drive directory. I DO have C:\Windows .. but NO | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree. | | I looked under C:\Windows and I still could not find 'ie6setup.exe' | .... | | So... I searched my C: drive folders and I DID find 'ie6setup.exe' | file in | | 'C:\mydown~1' .. but I could NOT open it either by double clicking the | icon | | or via using the Run prompt. When i clicked the icon, i got an error | message | | "Extracting file failed. It is likely caused by low memory or | corrupted | | Cabinet file.' I checked my memory via DOS command and it appeared to | be | | normal. I also checked the 'Properties' or the 'ie6setup.exe' file | and it | | was '6.00.2800.1106 .. 490,608 bytes. | | | | I tried your option uninstalling IE6 by entering in the Run | prompt: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance but the option to "Restore the | previous | | Windows configuration" on the resultant menu that was displayed was | grayed | | out/disabled. | | | | And I tried the IE6 repair command you sent again but nothing happened | when | | i selected the "Repair IE Explorer" (my words, not sure exact words). | When I | | tried 'Add a Component' I got an error message "Cannot find Windows | Update | | Setup Files on this computer. Please choose Windows Update under your | IE | | Tools menu to add components to IE.' Of course, I cannot do this as I | cannot | | get an icon on desktop or launch 'ie6setup.exe' as noted above. I | believe | | there was a 3rd option but it was grayed out/disabled. | | | | So ... it "appears" I have 'EXPLORER.EXE' and 'ie6setup.exe' files .... | but I | | still have no desktop/icons upon re-booting Windows98. I tried | replacing | | 'Shell=Winfile' with 'Shell=Explorer.exe' and rebooting, but still | nothing. | | And i tried again via DOS to scanreg /restrore and selecting the last | | registry on the list (it always specifies 'Started' and is a date | right | | before my problem occurred) but again no desktop/icons upon re-booting | | Windows98. | | | | I hope this helps you .. help me. I am trying to avoid calling and | paying | | the $35 but will if I absolutely have to. I am currently unemployed | so your | | online support really helps me out right now. Thank you. | | | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Please make sure you are telling us the right names of the files you | are referring | | to. There is no "explorer.exe" in the location | "c:\progra~1\intern~2".....the file | | there would be iexplore.exe, and there may be also an | "ie6setup.exe". Post back | | with the correct information please. | | | | The instructions given were to find "ie6setup.exe" and run it if | found, choosing | | Minimal-Custom and selecting the items already in bold print. Did | you find | | "ie6setup.exe" in the location "c:\progra~1\intern~2" or any of its | sub-folders? | | You can also look for it in the C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate | folder tree, or the | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree......I forget | which it may be in, | | as I usually install IE from CD rather than from a download. In | fact, if you cannot | | find the setup file in any of those locations, you may have IE6 SP1 | on a CD | | somewhere, as it often is included on CD's in magazines. | | | | Another option is to uninstall IE6 by pasting the following line | into the Run | | dialog: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance | | and choosing the option to "Restore the previous Windows | configuration" from the | | menu that appears. After that, install IE6 either from a CD or from | download, | | assuming that this allows you to boot normally again. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | | ... | | Gary/Glen ... here's what I've done since last communication: | | | | 1. I booted up, went to Command Prompt Only and entered 'edit | | c:\windows\system.ini' then changed 'Shell=Progman.exe' to | | 'Shell=Winfile.exe' as you suggested, then I saved and exited and | re-booted. | | | | 2. This time the File Manager window was displayed with directory | of | | folders and files. I then tried the IE6 repair command by | entering the | | command you sent me for IE6 in the Run prompt. A pop up was | displayed asking | | me to Repair IE or Add a Component. I tried both. When i | selected Repair | | IE, nothing happened. When I selected Add a Component, I got an | error | | message saying I needed to go to a Windows menu I did not see. So | I rebooted | | again. | | | | 3. I replaced the 'Shell=Winfile.exe' back to | 'Shell='Progman.exe' and | | rebooted. This time I noticed I did not get the subject error | message and | | the 'Program Manager - Accessories' window was displayed (which | did not | | display the first time i changed the shell to 'Progman.exe' | earlier and | | rebooted). So I went to c:\progra~1\intern~2\explorer.exe and | tried to | | launch the explorer.exe program -- i was able to double click on | it, and when | | i did, the hourglass was displayed for a short time appearing to | be | | processing something, but nothing happened, and i tried to launch | it from the | | Run command promt on same window -- but again, nothing happened. | when i | | clicked the setup file, nothing happened at all. But I checked | the | | Properties of the 'Explorer.exe' file and it specified version | 6.00.2800.1106 | | .. 94,208 bytes, last changed 8/11/03. I turned off the pc. | | | | So while it "appears" I have all my standard Windows programs in | the c: | | directory on the Program Manager - Accessories window, I still | have no | | desktop icons and no programs are launching. | | | | Thoughts? | | | | p.s. I realize you may not be able to call me, but in the event | that you | | can, my number is 404-329-0959. I'll be leaving the library | within the hour | | to go home. I'll check my email up until that time. And I'll | check back to | | this thread tomorrow morning if I don't hear from you beforehand. | | | | Thanks for your continued support!!!! | | | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Thanks Gary....I am at work (on lunch right now), and can't get | back to this | | thread | | for a few hours. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message | | ... | | Again, be very careful not to do anything more t han run IE | Repair using | | Winfile.exe for a Shell. Long filenames can easily be messed | up. Also, | | if IE Repair doesn't fix the problem (after re-editing | System.ini back | | to using Explorer.exe for a Shell) then the next step is to | | force-reinstall IE. You do this by again switching to | Shell=Winfile.exe | | and then finding Setup.exe in the Internet Explorer folder | (usually | | C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer) and running it. Choose | "Add | | Components" (or "Minimal or Custom Installation" if that's the | option | | that offers itself.) Then put a check mark for every item that | is bolded | | (already installed) and continue. If you haven't previously | deleted the | | setup files (usually in C:\Windows Updates Setup Files") then | this will | | probably be a smooth operation. If you don't have the | installation files | | on hand, it will be necessary to connect to the internet to | download | | them, and that can be problematic, depending on your system. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | news | | Gary, | | | | I'm at the library and about to leave for home, where I'll | follow your | | recommendation. I won't give up. I'm very methodical, and | I take | | great care | | in following the procedures (i'm a project manager and | technical | | writer :-) | | .. anyways, I'll follow up with you later this afternoon | with my | | results. | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | Try Shell=Winfile.exe, as suggested. | | | | And don't give up. We're giving you answers step-by-step, | and when | | one | | thing doesn't work, that tends to provide hints as to what | to do | | next. | | IOW, just because some suggestion doesn't bear immediate | fruit, | | doesn't | | mean it didn't need to be done. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | ... | | Gary, | | | | I did change 'Shell=Explorer.exe' to 'Shell=Progman.exe' | but upon | | re-booting, the following error was displayed: | | | | 'Error loading Program.exe. You must reinstall | Windows.' | | | | so, what can i do now? | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | As explained in the references Glen gave you earlier, | you use | | the | | Command Prompt Only boot to edit System.ini and change | the | | "Shell=Explorer.exe" line to: | | | | Shell=Progman.exe | | | | Then restart and you will possibly be able to boot to | Windows | | without | | having to load Explorer.exe. From there, you run t he | IE Repair | | or | | reinstall IE as needed. If Shell=progman.exe doesn't | work, try | | Shell=Winfile.exe. But be very careful when using | these modes, | | and | | only | | use them to perform these limited tasks, as they can | mess up the | | file | | system if you do certain things, particularly | Copy/Paste/Move | | operations. When the IE Repair or reinstallation are | completed, | | re-edit | | System.ini to restore normal Shell to Explorer.exe. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote | in message | | | ... | | Glen, | | | | Thanks. I had no luck by trying to restore the most | recent | | registry | | backups | | -- i tried every one listed, which went back a coupe | days | | before | | my | | problem | | -- still, this didn't work. | | | | I'm confused about ... | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | .. the IE repair tool instructions assumed i could | click | | Start .. | | Run | | .... | | but I can't. so I can only get to a command prompt | and use | | DOS | | .... so | | how do | | i reinstall IE from the DOS command prompt? | | | | Thanks .. looking forward to your | answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Each time you use a different .cab file backup in | scanreg | | /restore, | | you are | | replacing the Registry with the one using that | dat, and | | "going | | back" | | to that date as | | far as the Registry is concerned. So, if none of | the | | restores | | helped the problem, | | you should go back and restore the most recent | backup prior | | to | | when | | you began the | | restoring experiment (Of course, if you onlty went | back a | | couple | | of | | days, there | | should not be much difference other than the | entries for the | | updates | | you did). | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | Post back with your results. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" | wrote in | | message | | | ... | | Glee ... | | | | I tried using DOS command 'scanreg /restore' and | selecting | | the | | backup | | (rb###.cab files) -- i tried each one, rebooting | each | | time, | | but | | that didn't | | work. I also used the DOS command to 'edit the | | c:\windows\system.ini' file | | and replaced 'explorer.exe' with 'progman.exe' | where you | | told | | me, | | then saved | | and rebooted, then got an error that | 'progman.exe could | | not be | | found, must | | reinstall windows' or something to that effect. | | | | One other thing i forgot to mention. I | downloaded Windows | | updates | | to my pc, | | the night before my Windows crashed. One or two | of the | | updates | | were for IE6. | | | | Any other suggestions? Thank you for helping me | with | | this!!!! | | | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Before trying the procedure mentioned in my | first reply, | | you | | may | | want to try | | this | | first: | | Boot to DOS Mode by accessing the boot menu at | startup | | and | | selecting Command | | Prompt | | Only (you get to the boot menu the same way | you get to | | it | | when | | you selected Safe | | Mode). | | At the DOS Prompt, type: | | scanreg /restore | | and press Enter. | | Select one of the backups (rb###.cab files) | dated JUST | | prior | | to | | when the problem | | occurred. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "glee" wrote in | message | | | ... | | Follow the procedures he | | Recovering From a Failed Internet Explorer | Upgrade in | | Windows | | 98: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://www.cs.bsu.edu/~gjjones/admin...nd ows98.html | | or | | http://tinyurl.com/r5ba | | | | Especially this section at the end: | | | | "If you still have boot problems after you | reboot, you | | should | | use the command | | prompt | | to edit the c:\windows\system.ini file. On | the command | | line | | type edit | | c:\windows\system.ini. | | | | "Once it is open, change the line | shell=explorer.exe | | to | | shell=progman.exe. | | What | | you | | are doing here is changing the default shell | (that is | | having | | problems) from | | the | | Windows Explorer to the old Windows Program | Manager | | shell. | | | | "Reboot Windows. It should now successfully | boot with | | no | | errors into an empty | | Program Manager shell. Use the File | Run | | Browse | | drop | | down | | menu selection to | | browse to c:\program files\internet explorer | and | | launch | | ie5setup.exe or | | ie6setup.exe | | (depending on what is there). Do a custom | install and | | check | | all the Bold faced | | options. When the setup program alerts you | that these | | files | | are already | | installed, | | tell it to reinstall all of the files. | | | | "When the Internet Explorer Setup program is | done and | | reboots, | | hit the F8 key | | to | | bring up a Boot Menu. Choose Command Prompt | and boot | | to | | the | | command prompt. | | Once | | there, type edit c:\windows\system.ini and, | once it is | | open, | | change the line | | shell=progman.exe back to | shell=explorer.exe. Save and | | exit | | the file. You have | | now | | set the shell back to the original value." | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" | wrote | | in | | message | | | | news | | Can someone please help me resolve my | problem? Upon | | starting MS Windows 98, | | I see the MS Windows screen then it | appears to start | | loading | | programs as | | usual, then i get the above ERROR message. | I then | | restarted | | via SAFE mode, | | but there were no desktop icons. Upon | checking | | Program | | Manager, I only see | | 'Runapp' and no other programs listed. I | checked my | | memory | | via DOS prompt, | | and everything looks normal (but I really | am not a | | DOS | | user, | | so I'm limited | | in my ability to use DOS commands). I | restarted | | again | | and | | tried step by | | step | | confirmation, but again, I only get the | above ERROR | | message. | | | | I don't have the CD - or - the diskettes | for loading | | MS | | Windows 98. Is | | there a way to restore my MS Windows 98 | otherwise? | | | | I appreciate your time and help very much | ... thank | | you!!! | | | | Terry | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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-- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message ... But how did Mindspring's news server get involved in the first place? Mindspring is my ISP, so I post using my Mindspring account, but I do NOT use their news server. I access the groups directly through msnews.microsoft.com server. Strange....... -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ http://aumha.org/alex.htm http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... LOL! I seldom see my own posts, since they're marked "Read" as soon as they come in. Mindspring's news server having indigestion, perhaps? -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message ... I haven't reposted anything, so it must be a bot. As Hugh mentioned, the headers show some info about the repost, but I notice in another thread, one of *your* posts is reposted, and contains the same info reposting by mindspring, in the headers. I dunno what is going on with this. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ http://aumha.org/alex.htm http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Hmmm... That's the second REPOST this morning, at least. Did you actually repost this or was it some bot? -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "glee" wrote in message x.gbl... You most likely need to overinstall Internet Explorer, as we have mentioned, if scanreg/restore did not help. You have been unable to do so using any method. Get another CD drive that is not broken, and over-install your version of IE from a CD...either from an AOL or magazine CD, or order a CD he http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/46 Otherwise, pay $35....I would be very interested to see how they tell you to fix it, without formatting and reinstalling clean. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ http://aumha.org/alex.htm http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "tgregg99" wrote in message news All ... I've tried everything you've asked to do. I've been patient. Yet, I still have no Windows98 desktop/icons upon booting. And, yes, my CD drive does not work -- it's broken. Is there any hope to restore my Windows98 desktop/icons? If you have no other recommendations, then I will call MS tech support and spend the $35 with the understanding I will get it refunded if tech support is not able to resolve my problem, is that correct? Thank you! Terry "PCR" wrote: Too bad. You cannot do that article then, w/o .cab's on the hard drive or an Installation CD. You must get your CD working & try what Glee suggests. Don't you get those AOL CD's in the mail every other day? -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "tgregg99" wrote in message ... | i went to DOS prompt, and I entered 'DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p' .... and | after a few minutes of processing, I got the following message: 'Directory | of C:\ File Not Found 57,864,192 bytes free' | | "PCR" wrote: | | At a DOS prompt, try... | | DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p (That's *-dot-cab) | | If you have 55 of them, then the folder that contains them could be used | per the following article... | | This appears to recover IE/Explorer piecemeal, if the over-install will | never work... | http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98 | Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe | (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install | Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following: | Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F: | 00401F31 | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | ... | | You are correct - my mistake - it IS 'iexplore.exe' (not | 'explorer.exe') in | | my c:\progra~1\intern~2. that said, i could not open it by either | double | | clicking the icon next to the program name or by using Run. | | | | I verified via using DOS command that you sent me -- 'C:\DIR /s /a | | C:\EXPLORER.EXE' that it IS located in 'C:\WINDOWS' with the exact | file size | | as you stated .. 180,224. btw, i tried the extract commands you sent | and | | nothing happened, as i got 'File not found' or nothing happened or | 'Error: | | Cannot open file' .. i checked my strings very carefully each time and | | repeated but got the same messages. | | | | your instructions, C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdte folder tree does | NOT | | exist on my c: drive directory. I DO have C:\Windows .. but NO | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree. | | I looked under C:\Windows and I still could not find 'ie6setup.exe' | .... | | So... I searched my C: drive folders and I DID find 'ie6setup.exe' | file in | | 'C:\mydown~1' .. but I could NOT open it either by double clicking the | icon | | or via using the Run prompt. When i clicked the icon, i got an error | message | | "Extracting file failed. It is likely caused by low memory or | corrupted | | Cabinet file.' I checked my memory via DOS command and it appeared to | be | | normal. I also checked the 'Properties' or the 'ie6setup.exe' file | and it | | was '6.00.2800.1106 .. 490,608 bytes. | | | | I tried your option uninstalling IE6 by entering in the Run | prompt: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance but the option to "Restore the | previous | | Windows configuration" on the resultant menu that was displayed was | grayed | | out/disabled. | | | | And I tried the IE6 repair command you sent again but nothing happened | when | | i selected the "Repair IE Explorer" (my words, not sure exact words). | When I | | tried 'Add a Component' I got an error message "Cannot find Windows | Update | | Setup Files on this computer. Please choose Windows Update under your | IE | | Tools menu to add components to IE.' Of course, I cannot do this as I | cannot | | get an icon on desktop or launch 'ie6setup.exe' as noted above. I | believe | | there was a 3rd option but it was grayed out/disabled. | | | | So ... it "appears" I have 'EXPLORER.EXE' and 'ie6setup.exe' files .... | but I | | still have no desktop/icons upon re-booting Windows98. I tried | replacing | | 'Shell=Winfile' with 'Shell=Explorer.exe' and rebooting, but still | nothing. | | And i tried again via DOS to scanreg /restrore and selecting the last | | registry on the list (it always specifies 'Started' and is a date | right | | before my problem occurred) but again no desktop/icons upon re-booting | | Windows98. | | | | I hope this helps you .. help me. I am trying to avoid calling and | paying | | the $35 but will if I absolutely have to. I am currently unemployed | so your | | online support really helps me out right now. Thank you. | | | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Please make sure you are telling us the right names of the files you | are referring | | to. There is no "explorer.exe" in the location | "c:\progra~1\intern~2".....the file | | there would be iexplore.exe, and there may be also an | "ie6setup.exe". Post back | | with the correct information please. | | | | The instructions given were to find "ie6setup.exe" and run it if | found, choosing | | Minimal-Custom and selecting the items already in bold print. Did | you find | | "ie6setup.exe" in the location "c:\progra~1\intern~2" or any of its | sub-folders? | | You can also look for it in the C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate | folder tree, or the | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree......I forget | which it may be in, | | as I usually install IE from CD rather than from a download. In | fact, if you cannot | | find the setup file in any of those locations, you may have IE6 SP1 | on a CD | | somewhere, as it often is included on CD's in magazines. | | | | Another option is to uninstall IE6 by pasting the following line | into the Run | | dialog: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance | | and choosing the option to "Restore the previous Windows | configuration" from the | | menu that appears. After that, install IE6 either from a CD or from | download, | | assuming that this allows you to boot normally again. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | | ... | | Gary/Glen ... here's what I've done since last communication: | | | | 1. I booted up, went to Command Prompt Only and entered 'edit | | c:\windows\system.ini' then changed 'Shell=Progman.exe' to | | 'Shell=Winfile.exe' as you suggested, then I saved and exited and | re-booted. | | | | 2. This time the File Manager window was displayed with directory | of | | folders and files. I then tried the IE6 repair command by | entering the | | command you sent me for IE6 in the Run prompt. A pop up was | displayed asking | | me to Repair IE or Add a Component. I tried both. When i | selected Repair | | IE, nothing happened. When I selected Add a Component, I got an | error | | message saying I needed to go to a Windows menu I did not see. So | I rebooted | | again. | | | | 3. I replaced the 'Shell=Winfile.exe' back to | 'Shell='Progman.exe' and | | rebooted. This time I noticed I did not get the subject error | message and | | the 'Program Manager - Accessories' window was displayed (which | did not | | display the first time i changed the shell to 'Progman.exe' | earlier and | | rebooted). So I went to c:\progra~1\intern~2\explorer.exe and | tried to | | launch the explorer.exe program -- i was able to double click on | it, and when | | i did, the hourglass was displayed for a short time appearing to | be | | processing something, but nothing happened, and i tried to launch | it from the | | Run command promt on same window -- but again, nothing happened. | when i | | clicked the setup file, nothing happened at all. But I checked | the | | Properties of the 'Explorer.exe' file and it specified version | 6.00.2800.1106 | | .. 94,208 bytes, last changed 8/11/03. I turned off the pc. | | | | So while it "appears" I have all my standard Windows programs in | the c: | | directory on the Program Manager - Accessories window, I still | have no | | desktop icons and no programs are launching. | | | | Thoughts? | | | | p.s. I realize you may not be able to call me, but in the event | that you | | can, my number is 404-329-0959. I'll be leaving the library | within the hour | | to go home. I'll check my email up until that time. And I'll | check back to | | this thread tomorrow morning if I don't hear from you beforehand. | | | | Thanks for your continued support!!!! | | | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Thanks Gary....I am at work (on lunch right now), and can't get | back to this | | thread | | for a few hours. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message | | ... | | Again, be very careful not to do anything more t han run IE | Repair using | | Winfile.exe for a Shell. Long filenames can easily be messed | up. Also, | | if IE Repair doesn't fix the problem (after re-editing | System.ini back | | to using Explorer.exe for a Shell) then the next step is to | | force-reinstall IE. You do this by again switching to | Shell=Winfile.exe | | and then finding Setup.exe in the Internet Explorer folder | (usually | | C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer) and running it. Choose | "Add | | Components" (or "Minimal or Custom Installation" if that's the | option | | that offers itself.) Then put a check mark for every item that | is bolded | | (already installed) and continue. If you haven't previously | deleted the | | setup files (usually in C:\Windows Updates Setup Files") then | this will | | probably be a smooth operation. If you don't have the | installation files | | on hand, it will be necessary to connect to the internet to | download | | them, and that can be problematic, depending on your system. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | news | | Gary, | | | | I'm at the library and about to leave for home, where I'll | follow your | | recommendation. I won't give up. I'm very methodical, and | I take | | great care | | in following the procedures (i'm a project manager and | technical | | writer :-) | | .. anyways, I'll follow up with you later this afternoon | with my | | results. | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | Try Shell=Winfile.exe, as suggested. | | | | And don't give up. We're giving you answers step-by-step, | and when | | one | | thing doesn't work, that tends to provide hints as to what | to do | | next. | | IOW, just because some suggestion doesn't bear immediate | fruit, | | doesn't | | mean it didn't need to be done. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | ... | | Gary, | | | | I did change 'Shell=Explorer.exe' to 'Shell=Progman.exe' | but upon | | re-booting, the following error was displayed: | | | | 'Error loading Program.exe. You must reinstall | Windows.' | | | | so, what can i do now? | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | As explained in the references Glen gave you earlier, | you use | | the | | Command Prompt Only boot to edit System.ini and change | the | | "Shell=Explorer.exe" line to: | | | | Shell=Progman.exe | | | | Then restart and you will possibly be able to boot to | Windows | | without | | having to load Explorer.exe. From there, you run t he | IE Repair | | or | | reinstall IE as needed. If Shell=progman.exe doesn't | work, try | | Shell=Winfile.exe. But be very careful when using | these modes, | | and | | only | | use them to perform these limited tasks, as they can | mess up the | | file | | system if you do certain things, particularly | Copy/Paste/Move | | operations. When the IE Repair or reinstallation are | completed, | | re-edit | | System.ini to restore normal Shell to Explorer.exe. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote | in message | | | ... | | Glen, | | | | Thanks. I had no luck by trying to restore the most | recent | | registry | | backups | | -- i tried every one listed, which went back a coupe | days | | before | | my | | problem | | -- still, this didn't work. | | | | I'm confused about ... | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | .. the IE repair tool instructions assumed i could | click | | Start .. | | Run | | .... | | but I can't. so I can only get to a command prompt | and use | | DOS | | .... so | | how do | | i reinstall IE from the DOS command prompt? | | | | Thanks .. looking forward to your | answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Each time you use a different ..cab file backup in | scanreg | | /restore, | | you are | | replacing the Registry with the one using that | dat, and | | "going | | back" | | to that date as | | far as the Registry is concerned. So, if none of | the | | restores | | helped the problem, | | you should go back and restore the most recent | backup prior | | to | | when | | you began the | | restoring experiment (Of course, if you onlty went | back a | | couple | | of | | days, there | | should not be much difference other than the | entries for the | | updates | | you did). | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | Post back with your results. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" | wrote in | | message | | | ... | | Glee ... | | | | I tried using DOS command 'scanreg /restore' and | selecting | | the | | backup | | (rb###.cab files) -- i tried each one, rebooting | each | | time, | | but | | that didn't | | work. I also used the DOS command to 'edit the | | c:\windows\system.ini' file | | and replaced 'explorer.exe' with 'progman.exe' | where you | | told | | me, | | then saved | | and rebooted, then got an error that | 'progman.exe could | | not be | | found, must | | reinstall windows' or something to that effect. | | | | One other thing i forgot to mention. I | downloaded Windows | | updates | | to my pc, | | the night before my Windows crashed. One or two | of the | | updates | | were for IE6. | | | | Any other suggestions? Thank you for helping me | with | | this!!!! | | | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Before trying the procedure mentioned in my | first reply, | | you | | may | | want to try | | this | | first: | | Boot to DOS Mode by accessing the boot menu at | startup | | and | | selecting Command | | Prompt | | Only (you get to the boot menu the same way | you get to | | it | | when | | you selected Safe | | Mode). | | At the DOS Prompt, type: | | scanreg /restore | | and press Enter. | | Select one of the backups (rb###.cab files) | dated JUST | | prior | | to | | when the problem | | occurred. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "glee" wrote in | message | | | ... | | Follow the procedures he | | Recovering From a Failed Internet Explorer | Upgrade in | | Windows | | 98: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://www.cs.bsu.edu/~gjjones/admin...nd ows98.html | | or | | http://tinyurl.com/r5ba | | | | Especially this section at the end: | | | | "If you still have boot problems after you | reboot, you | | should | | use the command | | prompt | | to edit the c:\windows\system.ini file. On | the command | | line | | type edit | | c:\windows\system.ini. | | | | "Once it is open, change the line | shell=explorer.exe | | to | | shell=progman.exe. | | What | | you | | are doing here is changing the default shell | (that is | | having | | problems) from | | the | | Windows Explorer to the old Windows Program | Manager | | shell. | | | | "Reboot Windows. It should now successfully | boot with | | no | | errors into an empty | | Program Manager shell. Use the File | Run | | Browse | | drop | | down | | menu selection to | | browse to c:\program files\internet explorer | and | | launch | | ie5setup.exe or | | ie6setup.exe | | (depending on what is there). Do a custom | install and | | check | | all the Bold faced | | options. When the setup program alerts you | that these | | files | | are already | | installed, | | tell it to reinstall all of the files. | | | | "When the Internet Explorer Setup program is | done and | | reboots, | | hit the F8 key | | to | | bring up a Boot Menu. Choose Command Prompt | and boot | | to | | the | | command prompt. | | Once | | there, type edit c:\windows\system.ini and, | once it is | | open, | | change the line | | shell=progman.exe back to | shell=explorer.exe. Save and | | exit | | the file. You have | | now | | set the shell back to the original value." | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" | wrote | | in | | message | | | | news | | Can someone please help me resolve my | problem? Upon | | starting MS Windows 98, | | I see the MS Windows screen then it | appears to start | | loading | | programs as | | usual, then i get the above ERROR message. | I then | | restarted | | via SAFE mode, | | but there were no desktop icons. Upon | checking | | Program | | Manager, I only see | | 'Runapp' and no other programs listed. I | checked my | | memory | | via DOS prompt, | | and everything looks normal (but I really | am not a | | DOS | | user, | | so I'm limited | | in my ability to use DOS commands). I | restarted | | again | | and | | tried step by | | step | | confirmation, but again, I only get the | above ERROR | | message. | | | | I don't have the CD - or - the diskettes | for loading | | MS | | Windows 98. Is | | there a way to restore my MS Windows 98 | otherwise? | | | | I appreciate your time and help very much | ... thank | | you!!! | | | | Terry | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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Sanity question: Before I go buy a CD drive to replace my broken one ..
please confirm that by suggesting I re-install IE via an AOL CD (or Win98 installation CD if i can get one) that this should enable me to get to my Win98 desktop/icons again? That it should resolve the error i got 'Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F: 00401F31' ... I thought Explorer.exe was the program for my Win98? I just need your confirmation that re-installing IE via a CD addresses the 'Explorer.exe' error i got. Thanks, Terry "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: You'd be better off spending that $35 (less, actually) on a new CD drive. Pretty hard to maintain a computer these days without one. Believe me, MS support isn't going to be able to give you any better answers than the ones you've already been given. The first thing they're likely to tell you is go buy a new CD drive. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "tgregg99" wrote in message ... All ... I've tried everything you've asked to do. I've been patient. Yet, I still have no Windows98 desktop/icons upon booting. And, yes, my CD drive does not work -- it's broken. Is there any hope to restore my Windows98 desktop/icons? If you have no other recommendations, then I will call MS tech support and spend the $35 with the understanding I will get it refunded if tech support is not able to resolve my problem, is that correct? Thank you! Terry "PCR" wrote: Too bad. You cannot do that article then, w/o .cab's on the hard drive or an Installation CD. You must get your CD working & try what Glee suggests. Don't you get those AOL CD's in the mail every other day? -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "tgregg99" wrote in message ... | i went to DOS prompt, and I entered 'DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p' ..... and | after a few minutes of processing, I got the following message: 'Directory | of C:\ File Not Found 57,864,192 bytes free' | | "PCR" wrote: | | At a DOS prompt, try... | | DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p (That's *-dot-cab) | | If you have 55 of them, then the folder that contains them could be used | per the following article... | | This appears to recover IE/Explorer piecemeal, if the over-install will | never work... | http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98 | Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe | (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install | Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following: | Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F: | 00401F31 | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | ... | | You are correct - my mistake - it IS 'iexplore.exe' (not | 'explorer.exe') in | | my c:\progra~1\intern~2. that said, i could not open it by either | double | | clicking the icon next to the program name or by using Run. | | | | I verified via using DOS command that you sent me -- 'C:\DIR /s /a | | C:\EXPLORER.EXE' that it IS located in 'C:\WINDOWS' with the exact | file size | | as you stated .. 180,224. btw, i tried the extract commands you sent | and | | nothing happened, as i got 'File not found' or nothing happened or | 'Error: | | Cannot open file' .. i checked my strings very carefully each time and | | repeated but got the same messages. | | | | your instructions, C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdte folder tree does | NOT | | exist on my c: drive directory. I DO have C:\Windows .. but NO | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree. | | I looked under C:\Windows and I still could not find 'ie6setup.exe' | .... | | So... I searched my C: drive folders and I DID find 'ie6setup.exe' | file in | | 'C:\mydown~1' .. but I could NOT open it either by double clicking the | icon | | or via using the Run prompt. When i clicked the icon, i got an error | message | | "Extracting file failed. It is likely caused by low memory or | corrupted | | Cabinet file.' I checked my memory via DOS command and it appeared to | be | | normal. I also checked the 'Properties' or the 'ie6setup.exe' file | and it | | was '6.00.2800.1106 .. 490,608 bytes. | | | | I tried your option uninstalling IE6 by entering in the Run | prompt: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance but the option to "Restore the | previous | | Windows configuration" on the resultant menu that was displayed was | grayed | | out/disabled. | | | | And I tried the IE6 repair command you sent again but nothing happened | when | | i selected the "Repair IE Explorer" (my words, not sure exact words). | When I | | tried 'Add a Component' I got an error message "Cannot find Windows | Update | | Setup Files on this computer. Please choose Windows Update under your | IE | | Tools menu to add components to IE.' Of course, I cannot do this as I | cannot | | get an icon on desktop or launch 'ie6setup.exe' as noted above. I | believe | | there was a 3rd option but it was grayed out/disabled. | | | | So ... it "appears" I have 'EXPLORER.EXE' and 'ie6setup.exe' files .... | but I | | still have no desktop/icons upon re-booting Windows98. I tried | replacing | | 'Shell=Winfile' with 'Shell=Explorer.exe' and rebooting, but still | nothing. | | And i tried again via DOS to scanreg /restrore and selecting the last | | registry on the list (it always specifies 'Started' and is a date | right | | before my problem occurred) but again no desktop/icons upon re-booting | | Windows98. | | | | I hope this helps you .. help me. I am trying to avoid calling and | paying | | the $35 but will if I absolutely have to. I am currently unemployed | so your | | online support really helps me out right now. Thank you. | | | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Please make sure you are telling us the right names of the files you | are referring | | to. There is no "explorer.exe" in the location | "c:\progra~1\intern~2".....the file | | there would be iexplore.exe, and there may be also an | "ie6setup.exe". Post back | | with the correct information please. | | | | The instructions given were to find "ie6setup.exe" and run it if | found, choosing | | Minimal-Custom and selecting the items already in bold print. Did | you find | | "ie6setup.exe" in the location "c:\progra~1\intern~2" or any of its | sub-folders? | | You can also look for it in the C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate | folder tree, or the | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree......I forget | which it may be in, | | as I usually install IE from CD rather than from a download. In | fact, if you cannot | | find the setup file in any of those locations, you may have IE6 SP1 | on a CD | | somewhere, as it often is included on CD's in magazines. | | | | Another option is to uninstall IE6 by pasting the following line | into the Run | | dialog: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance | | and choosing the option to "Restore the previous Windows | configuration" from the | | menu that appears. After that, install IE6 either from a CD or from | download, | | assuming that this allows you to boot normally again. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | | ... | | Gary/Glen ... here's what I've done since last communication: | | | | 1. I booted up, went to Command Prompt Only and entered 'edit | | c:\windows\system.ini' then changed 'Shell=Progman.exe' to | | 'Shell=Winfile.exe' as you suggested, then I saved and exited and | re-booted. | | | | 2. This time the File Manager window was displayed with directory | of | | folders and files. I then tried the IE6 repair command by | entering the | | command you sent me for IE6 in the Run prompt. A pop up was | displayed asking | | me to Repair IE or Add a Component. I tried both. When i | selected Repair | | IE, nothing happened. When I selected Add a Component, I got an | error | | message saying I needed to go to a Windows menu I did not see. So | I rebooted | | again. | | | | 3. I replaced the 'Shell=Winfile.exe' back to | 'Shell='Progman.exe' and | | rebooted. This time I noticed I did not get the subject error | message and | | the 'Program Manager - Accessories' window was displayed (which | did not | | display the first time i changed the shell to 'Progman.exe' | earlier and | | rebooted). So I went to c:\progra~1\intern~2\explorer.exe and | tried to | | launch the explorer.exe program -- i was able to double click on | it, and when | | i did, the hourglass was displayed for a short time appearing to | be | | processing something, but nothing happened, and i tried to launch | it from the | | Run command promt on same window -- but again, nothing happened. | when i | | clicked the setup file, nothing happened at all. But I checked | the | | Properties of the 'Explorer.exe' file and it specified version | 6.00.2800.1106 | | .. 94,208 bytes, last changed 8/11/03. I turned off the pc. | | | | So while it "appears" I have all my standard Windows programs in | the c: | | directory on the Program Manager - Accessories window, I still | have no | | desktop icons and no programs are launching. | | | | Thoughts? | | | | p.s. I realize you may not be able to call me, but in the event | that you | | can, my number is 404-329-0959. I'll be leaving the library | within the hour | | to go home. I'll check my email up until that time. And I'll | check back to | | this thread tomorrow morning if I don't hear from you beforehand. | | | | Thanks for your continued support!!!! | | | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Thanks Gary....I am at work (on lunch right now), and can't get | back to this | | thread | | for a few hours. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message | | ... | | Again, be very careful not to do anything more than run IE | Repair using | | Winfile.exe for a Shell. Long filenames can easily be messed | up. Also, | | if IE Repair doesn't fix the problem (after re-editing | System.ini back | | to using Explorer.exe for a Shell) then the next step is to | | force-reinstall IE. You do this by again switching to | Shell=Winfile.exe | | and then finding Setup.exe in the Internet Explorer folder | (usually | | C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer) and running it. Choose | "Add | | Components" (or "Minimal or Custom Installation" if that's the | option | | that offers itself.) Then put a check mark for every item that | is bolded | | (already installed) and continue. If you haven't previously | deleted the | | setup files (usually in C:\Windows Updates Setup Files") then | this will | | probably be a smooth operation. If you don't have the | installation files | | on hand, it will be necessary to connect to the internet to | download | | them, and that can be problematic, depending on your system. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | news | | Gary, | | | | I'm at the library and about to leave for home, where I'll | follow your | | recommendation. I won't give up. I'm very methodical, and | I take | | great care | | in following the procedures (i'm a project manager and | technical | | writer :-) | | .. anyways, I'll follow up with you later this afternoon | with my | | results. | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | Try Shell=Winfile.exe, as suggested. | | | | And don't give up. We're giving you answers step-by-step, | and when | | one | | thing doesn't work, that tends to provide hints as to what | to do | | next. | | IOW, just because some suggestion doesn't bear immediate | fruit, | | doesn't | | mean it didn't need to be done. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | ... | | Gary, | | | | I did change 'Shell=Explorer.exe' to 'Shell=Progman.exe' | but upon | | re-booting, the following error was displayed: | | | | 'Error loading Program.exe. You must reinstall | Windows.' | | | | so, what can i do now? | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | As explained in the references Glen gave you earlier, | you use | | the | | Command Prompt Only boot to edit System.ini and change | the | | "Shell=Explorer.exe" line to: | | | | Shell=Progman.exe | | | | Then restart and you will possibly be able to boot to | Windows | | without | | having to load Explorer.exe. From there, you run t he | IE Repair | | or | | reinstall IE as needed. If Shell=progman.exe doesn't | work, try | | Shell=Winfile.exe. But be very careful when using | these modes, | | and | | only | | use them to perform these limited tasks, as they can | mess up the | | file | | system if you do certain things, particularly | Copy/Paste/Move | | operations. When the IE Repair or reinstallation are | completed, | | re-edit | | System.ini to restore normal Shell to Explorer.exe. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote | in message | | | ... | | Glen, | | | | Thanks. I had no luck by trying to restore the most | recent | | registry | | backups | | -- i tried every one listed, which went back a coupe | days | | before | | my | | problem | | -- still, this didn't work. | | | | I'm confused about ... | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | .. the IE repair tool instructions assumed i could | click | | Start .. | | Run | | .... | | but I can't. so I can only get to a command prompt | and use | | DOS | | .... so | | how do | | i reinstall IE from the DOS command prompt? | | | | Thanks .. looking forward to your | answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Each time you use a different .cab file backup in | scanreg | | /restore, | | you are | | replacing the Registry with the one using that | dat, and | | "going | | back" | | to that date as | | far as the Registry is concerned. So, if none of | the | | restores | | helped the problem, | | you should go back and restore the most recent | backup prior | | to | | when | | you began the | | restoring experiment (Of course, if you onlty went | back a | | couple | | of | | days, there | | should not be much difference other than the | entries for the | | updates | | you did). | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | Post back with your results. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ |
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most likely thing that needs to be done to repair your system. Explorer.exe and "Internet Explorer" are intertwined, and this is the remedy that is recommended based upon long experience and research. But just to be clear, you have to install a version of IE that is at least the same or newer than the version now installed. There are any number of free sources for whatever version you require. When you go down to the computer store or wherever to buy a CD drive, just ask. I'll bet they either have it or know exactly where to get one. You can, for that matter, download it, in its entirety, on any other system with a CD burner, preferably one on a high-bandwidth internet connection, and burn your own copy. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "tgregg99" wrote in message ... Sanity question: Before I go buy a CD drive to replace my broken one ... please confirm that by suggesting I re-install IE via an AOL CD (or Win98 installation CD if i can get one) that this should enable me to get to my Win98 desktop/icons again? That it should resolve the error i got 'Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F: 00401F31' ... I thought Explorer.exe was the program for my Win98? I just need your confirmation that re-installing IE via a CD addresses the 'Explorer.exe' error i got. Thanks, Terry "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: You'd be better off spending that $35 (less, actually) on a new CD drive. Pretty hard to maintain a computer these days without one. Believe me, MS support isn't going to be able to give you any better answers than the ones you've already been given. The first thing they're likely to tell you is go buy a new CD drive. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "tgregg99" wrote in message ... All ... I've tried everything you've asked to do. I've been patient. Yet, I still have no Windows98 desktop/icons upon booting. And, yes, my CD drive does not work -- it's broken. Is there any hope to restore my Windows98 desktop/icons? If you have no other recommendations, then I will call MS tech support and spend the $35 with the understanding I will get it refunded if tech support is not able to resolve my problem, is that correct? Thank you! Terry "PCR" wrote: Too bad. You cannot do that article then, w/o .cab's on the hard drive or an Installation CD. You must get your CD working & try what Glee suggests. Don't you get those AOL CD's in the mail every other day? -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "tgregg99" wrote in message ... | i went to DOS prompt, and I entered 'DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p' ..... and | after a few minutes of processing, I got the following message: 'Directory | of C:\ File Not Found 57,864,192 bytes free' | | "PCR" wrote: | | At a DOS prompt, try... | | DIR C:\Win98*.cab /s /a /p (That's *-dot-cab) | | If you have 55 of them, then the folder that contains them could be used | per the following article... | | This appears to recover IE/Explorer piecemeal, if the over-install will | never work... | http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98 | Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe | (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install | Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following: | Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F: | 00401F31 | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | ... | | You are correct - my mistake - it IS 'iexplore.exe' (not | 'explorer.exe') in | | my c:\progra~1\intern~2. that said, i could not open it by either | double | | clicking the icon next to the program name or by using Run. | | | | I verified via using DOS command that you sent me -- 'C:\DIR /s /a | | C:\EXPLORER.EXE' that it IS located in 'C:\WINDOWS' with the exact | file size | | as you stated .. 180,224. btw, i tried the extract commands you sent | and | | nothing happened, as i got 'File not found' or nothing happened or | 'Error: | | Cannot open file' .. i checked my strings very carefully each time and | | repeated but got the same messages. | | | | your instructions, C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdte folder tree does | NOT | | exist on my c: drive directory. I DO have C:\Windows .. but NO | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree. | | I looked under C:\Windows and I still could not find 'ie6setup.exe' | .... | | So... I searched my C: drive folders and I DID find 'ie6setup.exe' | file in | | 'C:\mydown~1' .. but I could NOT open it either by double clicking the | icon | | or via using the Run prompt. When i clicked the icon, i got an error | message | | "Extracting file failed. It is likely caused by low memory or | corrupted | | Cabinet file.' I checked my memory via DOS command and it appeared to | be | | normal. I also checked the 'Properties' or the 'ie6setup.exe' file | and it | | was '6.00.2800.1106 .. 490,608 bytes. | | | | I tried your option uninstalling IE6 by entering in the Run | prompt: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance but the option to "Restore the | previous | | Windows configuration" on the resultant menu that was displayed was | grayed | | out/disabled. | | | | And I tried the IE6 repair command you sent again but nothing happened | when | | i selected the "Repair IE Explorer" (my words, not sure exact words). | When I | | tried 'Add a Component' I got an error message "Cannot find Windows | Update | | Setup Files on this computer. Please choose Windows Update under your | IE | | Tools menu to add components to IE.' Of course, I cannot do this as I | cannot | | get an icon on desktop or launch 'ie6setup.exe' as noted above. I | believe | | there was a 3rd option but it was grayed out/disabled. | | | | So ... it "appears" I have 'EXPLORER.EXE' and 'ie6setup.exe' files .... | but I | | still have no desktop/icons upon re-booting Windows98. I tried | replacing | | 'Shell=Winfile' with 'Shell=Explorer.exe' and rebooting, but still | nothing. | | And i tried again via DOS to scanreg /restrore and selecting the last | | registry on the list (it always specifies 'Started' and is a date | right | | before my problem occurred) but again no desktop/icons upon re-booting | | Windows98. | | | | I hope this helps you .. help me. I am trying to avoid calling and | paying | | the $35 but will if I absolutely have to. I am currently unemployed | so your | | online support really helps me out right now. Thank you. | | | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Please make sure you are telling us the right names of the files you | are referring | | to. There is no "explorer.exe" in the location | "c:\progra~1\intern~2".....the file | | there would be iexplore.exe, and there may be also an | "ie6setup.exe". Post back | | with the correct information please. | | | | The instructions given were to find "ie6setup.exe" and run it if | found, choosing | | Minimal-Custom and selecting the items already in bold print. Did | you find | | "ie6setup.exe" in the location "c:\progra~1\intern~2" or any of its | sub-folders? | | You can also look for it in the C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate | folder tree, or the | | C:\Windows\Windows Update Setup Files folder tree......I forget | which it may be in, | | as I usually install IE from CD rather than from a download. In | fact, if you cannot | | find the setup file in any of those locations, you may have IE6 SP1 | on a CD | | somewhere, as it often is included on CD's in magazines. | | | | Another option is to uninstall IE6 by pasting the following line | into the Run | | dialog: | | RUNDLL32 SETUPWBV.DLL,IE6Maintenance | | and choosing the option to "Restore the previous Windows | configuration" from the | | menu that appears. After that, install IE6 either from a CD or from | download, | | assuming that this allows you to boot normally again. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in message | | ... | | Gary/Glen ... here's what I've done since last communication: | | | | 1. I booted up, went to Command Prompt Only and entered 'edit | | c:\windows\system.ini' then changed 'Shell=Progman.exe' to | | 'Shell=Winfile.exe' as you suggested, then I saved and exited and | re-booted. | | | | 2. This time the File Manager window was displayed with directory | of | | folders and files. I then tried the IE6 repair command by | entering the | | command you sent me for IE6 in the Run prompt. A pop up was | displayed asking | | me to Repair IE or Add a Component. I tried both. When i | selected Repair | | IE, nothing happened. When I selected Add a Component, I got an | error | | message saying I needed to go to a Windows menu I did not see. So | I rebooted | | again. | | | | 3. I replaced the 'Shell=Winfile.exe' back to | 'Shell='Progman.exe' and | | rebooted. This time I noticed I did not get the subject error | message and | | the 'Program Manager - Accessories' window was displayed (which | did not | | display the first time i changed the shell to 'Progman.exe' | earlier and | | rebooted). So I went to c:\progra~1\intern~2\explorer.exe and | tried to | | launch the explorer.exe program -- i was able to double click on | it, and when | | i did, the hourglass was displayed for a short time appearing to | be | | processing something, but nothing happened, and i tried to launch | it from the | | Run command promt on same window -- but again, nothing happened. | when i | | clicked the setup file, nothing happened at all. But I checked | the | | Properties of the 'Explorer.exe' file and it specified version | 6.00.2800.1106 | | .. 94,208 bytes, last changed 8/11/03. I turned off the pc. | | | | So while it "appears" I have all my standard Windows programs in | the c: | | directory on the Program Manager - Accessories window, I still | have no | | desktop icons and no programs are launching. | | | | Thoughts? | | | | p.s. I realize you may not be able to call me, but in the event | that you | | can, my number is 404-329-0959. I'll be leaving the library | within the hour | | to go home. I'll check my email up until that time. And I'll | check back to | | this thread tomorrow morning if I don't hear from you beforehand. | | | | Thanks for your continued support!!!! | | | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Thanks Gary....I am at work (on lunch right now), and can't get | back to this | | thread | | for a few hours. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | | ~ In memory of our friend, MVP Alex Nichol ~ | | http://aumha.org/alex.htm | | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message | | ... | | Again, be very careful not to do anything more than run IE | Repair using | | Winfile.exe for a Shell. Long filenames can easily be messed | up. Also, | | if IE Repair doesn't fix the problem (after re-editing | System.ini back | | to using Explorer.exe for a Shell) then the next step is to | | force-reinstall IE. You do this by again switching to | Shell=Winfile.exe | | and then finding Setup.exe in the Internet Explorer folder | (usually | | C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer) and running it. Choose | "Add | | Components" (or "Minimal or Custom Installation" if that's the | option | | that offers itself.) Then put a check mark for every item that | is bolded | | (already installed) and continue. If you haven't previously | deleted the | | setup files (usually in C:\Windows Updates Setup Files") then | this will | | probably be a smooth operation. If you don't have the | installation files | | on hand, it will be necessary to connect to the internet to | download | | them, and that can be problematic, depending on your system. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | news | | Gary, | | | | I'm at the library and about to leave for home, where I'll | follow your | | recommendation. I won't give up. I'm very methodical, and | I take | | great care | | in following the procedures (i'm a project manager and | technical | | writer :-) | | .. anyways, I'll follow up with you later this afternoon | with my | | results. | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | Try Shell=Winfile.exe, as suggested. | | | | And don't give up. We're giving you answers step-by-step, | and when | | one | | thing doesn't work, that tends to provide hints as to what | to do | | next. | | IOW, just because some suggestion doesn't bear immediate | fruit, | | doesn't | | mean it didn't need to be done. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote in | message | | ... | | Gary, | | | | I did change 'Shell=Explorer.exe' to 'Shell=Progman.exe' | but upon | | re-booting, the following error was displayed: | | | | 'Error loading Program.exe. You must reinstall | Windows.' | | | | so, what can i do now? | | | | Thanks!!! | | Terry | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | | | | As explained in the references Glen gave you earlier, | you use | | the | | Command Prompt Only boot to edit System.ini and change | the | | "Shell=Explorer.exe" line to: | | | | Shell=Progman.exe | | | | Then restart and you will possibly be able to boot to | Windows | | without | | having to load Explorer.exe. From there, you run t he | IE Repair | | or | | reinstall IE as needed. If Shell=progman.exe doesn't | work, try | | Shell=Winfile.exe. But be very careful when using | these modes, | | and | | only | | use them to perform these limited tasks, as they can | mess up the | | file | | system if you do certain things, particularly | Copy/Paste/Move | | operations. When the IE Repair or reinstallation are | completed, | | re-edit | | System.ini to restore normal Shell to Explorer.exe. | | | | -- | | Gary S. Terhune | | MS MVP Shell/User | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm | | | | "tgregg99" wrote | in message | | | ... | | Glen, | | | | Thanks. I had no luck by trying to restore the most | recent | | registry | | backups | | -- i tried every one listed, which went back a coupe | days | | before | | my | | problem | | -- still, this didn't work. | | | | I'm confused about ... | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | .. the IE repair tool instructions assumed i could | click | | Start .. | | Run | | .... | | but I can't. so I can only get to a command prompt | and use | | DOS | | .... so | | how do | | i reinstall IE from the DOS command prompt? | | | | Thanks .. looking forward to your | answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | | Terry | | | | "glee" wrote: | | | | Each time you use a different .cab file backup in | scanreg | | /restore, | | you are | | replacing the Registry with the one using that | dat, and | | "going | | back" | | to that date as | | far as the Registry is concerned. So, if none of | the | | restores | | helped the problem, | | you should go back and restore the most recent | backup prior | | to | | when | | you began the | | restoring experiment (Of course, if you onlty went | back a | | couple | | of | | days, there | | should not be much difference other than the | entries for the | | updates | | you did). | | | | Following that, use the info mentioned in the link | I gave | | you to | | reinstall IE, but | | instead of progman.exe, use winfile.exe. | | | | Post back with your results. | | -- | | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ |
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