Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition

hmm, sure it wasn't 9 Glen, grin

"glee" wrote:

#8.
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http://dts-l.net/


"DaffyD®" wrote in message
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Which of the 7 Deadly Sins is software piracy?
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If I knew where I was I'd be there now.


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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:37:49 -0400, 98 Guy wrote:

glee wrote:

Still blatantly promoting software piracy, I see.

Why is it piracy when the manufacturer no longer sells the item in
question?

And don't give me "well you can buy it on e-bay" crap. There is no
garantee that anyone selling win-98 on e-bay is selling a version that
*can* be re-sold or used according to it's EULA, or that the person
selling it isin't still using the same product key that they're
purporting to sell.

If it's a book, a music or movie cd that is still available for retail
sale, then yup, there is such a thing a piracy.

If it's any of the above that is no longer in print or being stamped or
sold, then making copies of it and passing it around is not piracy.

People who copy ANY softeware are sinners in the eyes of God and they
WILL go straight to HELL when they die. This needs no further
explanation.

Jesus Loves You

Ned

98 Guy, are you saying that Apple with Steve Jobs and its prideful ways is
better than Microsoft. How about just going with Unix/Linux like for example
Ubantu Linux which is really free and I have found it to be useful and then
you can just not worry about Microsoft and Apple and your problem is solved
because you are using software that is meant to be freely shared and freely
improved upon and you 98 Guy can make Linux better for the masses and even
easier to use and redirect your energy into a positive and a good project.

"98 Guy" wrote:

"Bill in Co." wrote:

If you think personal values, and one's sense of personal
responsibility and accountability, haven't changed much
since then, then ....

What a bunch of maroons -

Getting all bent out of shape over the morality of passing around copies
of a piece of software that Macro$haft hasn't even sold for 4 years and
will never sell again.

This is the same Milkro$haft company that has been fined many times for
illegal business practices. And they've bought their way out of being
prosecuted as an illegal monopoly because they gave the US gov't all the
back doors they need to get into YOUR XP or vista computer.

Micro$oft has a proven record of being a sociopathic corporate entity.
They don't deserve to be treated with morality because they have none.

Why would we or in particular I waste more time, again, on you,, you are
nothing, insignificant, hold no value, are unintelligent, and no matter how
many times the issues and questions ARE answered, you never understand or
comprehend the answer no matter how much it "smacks you in the head".. Heck
you won't even review the cases to which you pointed which spell out the
answers to your questions, YET AGAIN. BTW: if you bothered to check via the
search engines you would find that the E-bay/online auction site issue was
addressed in the courts...

You're a waste of time and always have been. Yet another taking up space on
this planet we could all do without. Mindlessly posting in the newsgroups to
make yourself feel important. Another who should ask themselves the question
of just what function you serve on this planet or ever have.
Got kids? I feel extremely sorry for them.

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MEB
a Peoples' counsel
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"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
| Top Poster and full-quoter MEB wrote:
|
| now with your infamous Top-poster dig you use when your infantile
| activities fail...
|
| Just calling it like I see it. If you don't want to be called a "top
| poster" or "full quoter" then apply a little effort and learn correct
| usenet posting etiquette.
|
| | So those that are selling Windows on E-bay are violating copyright
| | law - are they not?
| |
| | Aren't they "distributing" it - by way of sale?
|
| These questions WERE answered before IN DETAIL.
|
| Quit lying and just answer the question. You didn't answer that
| question before.
|
| If your memory is so bad, I have them preserved on the web page
| to which I directed you.
|
| What-ever you posted or what-ever web-page you're blathering about is
| garbage.
|
| MEB wrote:
|
| The determinative action is the right to *distribute* or not,,,
| Microsoft holds that right, you and others hold no such authority...
|
| Answer the question MEB. Answer it here.
|
| Are Windows-98 sellers on E-bay violating copyright law by
| "distributing" it by way of sale?

I have taken it up with Microsoft and I receive no reply to that subject
although Microsoft seems willing to share ideas with me back and forth on
many topics but the issue of selling the 9x source code is not mentioned and
when asked about it the topic is ignored or the employee says they do not
know and all I am left with for my troubles is a big question mark and
nothing more. ???

"MEB" wrote:



"Dan" wrote in message
...
| MEB, how come Microsoft does not sell the 9x source code to the U.S. or
| Canadian or another friendly government if Microsoft is not willing to
| program for the 9x source code anymore because it is too expensive for
| Microsoft to program for 2 source codes from what I have read about the
| situation. (Note: I feel and I think many here would agree with me that
| Windows 9x consumer source code was best in Windows 98 Second Edition
because
| Windows ME removed easy access to MS-DOS and broke easy compatibility with
| older programs --- heck --- Microsoft has a white page document that
weighs
| in over 100 pages on securing Windows 98 and Windows NT networks so it
| certainly sounds like Microsoft cares a lot about their older IP that is
| still in use by a few companies, some individuals and within some
governments)

Microsoft has or had many white papers and other related to the networking
aspects I still have many hundreds locally;, and is aware of the existance
of the millions of users. And in reality, its not all that expensive to
maintain it.. it just no longer brings in the revenue desired.

As for why Microsoft retains its authority; you would have to take that up
with Microsoft.

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MEB

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"Dan" wrote in message
...
| I have taken it up with Microsoft and I receive no reply to that subject
| although Microsoft seems willing to share ideas with me back and forth on
| many topics but the issue of selling the 9x source code is not mentioned
and
| when asked about it the topic is ignored or the employee says they do not
| know and all I am left with for my troubles is a big question mark and
| nothing more. ???

Be aware that Microsoft has out sourced their Help and Support, so likely
they really have no way of knowing what Microsoft
administration/headquarters would do. They apparently haven't even got a
direct line/access to Microsoft or its divisions.
So you might want to question just who you actually are "talking to".

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB, how come Microsoft does not sell the 9x source code to the U.S.
or
| | Canadian or another friendly government if Microsoft is not willing to
| | program for the 9x source code anymore because it is too expensive for
| | Microsoft to program for 2 source codes from what I have read about
the
| | situation. (Note: I feel and I think many here would agree with me
that
| | Windows 9x consumer source code was best in Windows 98 Second Edition
| because
| | Windows ME removed easy access to MS-DOS and broke easy compatibility
with
| | older programs --- heck --- Microsoft has a white page document that
| weighs
| | in over 100 pages on securing Windows 98 and Windows NT networks so it
| | certainly sounds like Microsoft cares a lot about their older IP that
is
| | still in use by a few companies, some individuals and within some
| governments)
|
| Microsoft has or had many white papers and other related to the
networking
| aspects I still have many hundreds locally;, and is aware of the
existance
| of the millions of users. And in reality, its not all that expensive to
| maintain it.. it just no longer brings in the revenue desired.
|
| As for why Microsoft retains its authority; you would have to take that
up
| with Microsoft.
|
| --
| MEB
|
| --
| _________
|
|
|
|

"Normanny" wrote in message
...
| Hi all,
| Thanks for all responses! I really should have been more clearer in my
| request in the first place that I need advise rather than a physical copy
of
| the W98se.
|
| When I started installing my Netgear modem on my laptop with a licensed
| W98se installed, there are dll's that are missing. I was hoping that
there
| are ways of getting this missing dll's by sending my request here.
|
| But, thanks anyway if there are none.
| Normanny.
|

The dlls MAY not actually be missing. Does this occur during the
installation process, when the installer tells you to insert the Win98 CD?
You MAY find that by directing to the system folder, the files are already
installed.

As others have suggested, search your local drives for the win98*.cab files
after setting Folder Options to Show Hidden Files and NOT Hide Known Files
Types, they MAY be somewhere on your drive.

As a last resort, there are several sites which have the individual DLLs
for download, however, make sure its a site you trust, AND that you check
them with your A-V program before using. You can also check them by using
Properties and reviewing Dates and Times of creation and modification, then
comparing them to known good files. Note however, that there are programs
which can modify those values.

If you post the intended installation version and model of card/adapter,
someone can monitor the actual needed files. Or if you already know what
those DLLs are other help can be offered.

--
MEB
a Peoples' counsel
--
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|
|
| "Normanny" wrote:
|
| Hi, anyone can provide me a copy of the Windows 98 Second Edition. I
need to
| upgrade my old Windows 98 and be able to install a Netgear 108 mbps
Wireless
| PC Card. Appreciate any help!
| --
| normanny

Heck, I even wrote to Bill Gates several times about my ideas back in the day
and the letters were never answered and included my thoughts about Windows 98
Second Edition and the future direction Microsoft should take if Microsoft
was smart. I still think Microsoft saw the big dollar signs in the sky shall
we say and thought there was more money to make with catering to businesses
and their dollars and so consumers were left high and dry. Fortunately, now
Dan K.'s research has completely changed how the Internet was thought of and
you know what MEB there still is DNS Pollution out there and it is just that
the breaking of the 'Net has now been made much harder by patching.
Unfortunately, according to DHS there still seems to be a lot of unknown
status out there as far as DNS Pollution goes and I still think some
companies are not taking the issue seriously enough but after the company's
data are compromised then I think they may finally wake up. smile

"MEB" wrote:



"Dan" wrote in message
...
| I have taken it up with Microsoft and I receive no reply to that subject
| although Microsoft seems willing to share ideas with me back and forth on
| many topics but the issue of selling the 9x source code is not mentioned
and
| when asked about it the topic is ignored or the employee says they do not
| know and all I am left with for my troubles is a big question mark and
| nothing more. ???

Be aware that Microsoft has out sourced their Help and Support, so likely
they really have no way of knowing what Microsoft
administration/headquarters would do. They apparently haven't even got a
direct line/access to Microsoft or its divisions.
So you might want to question just who you actually are "talking to".

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________


|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
|
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
| ...
| | MEB, how come Microsoft does not sell the 9x source code to the U.S.
or
| | Canadian or another friendly government if Microsoft is not willing to
| | program for the 9x source code anymore because it is too expensive for
| | Microsoft to program for 2 source codes from what I have read about
the
| | situation. (Note: I feel and I think many here would agree with me
that
| | Windows 9x consumer source code was best in Windows 98 Second Edition
| because
| | Windows ME removed easy access to MS-DOS and broke easy compatibility
with
| | older programs --- heck --- Microsoft has a white page document that
| weighs
| | in over 100 pages on securing Windows 98 and Windows NT networks so it
| | certainly sounds like Microsoft cares a lot about their older IP that
is
| | still in use by a few companies, some individuals and within some
| governments)
|
| Microsoft has or had many white papers and other related to the
networking
| aspects I still have many hundreds locally;, and is aware of the
existance
| of the millions of users. And in reality, its not all that expensive to
| maintain it.. it just no longer brings in the revenue desired.
|
| As for why Microsoft retains its authority; you would have to take that
up
| with Microsoft.
|
| --
| MEB
|
| --
| _________
|
|
|
|

Glen is 100% correct, Dan

Here is simple explanatory site which even 'wise Guy' should be able to comprehend:-
http://www.topmarks.co.uk/judaism/co...s/tencomms.htm

Note number 8!

Dave

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"Dan" wrote in message
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hmm, sure it wasn't 9 Glen, grin

"glee" wrote:

#8.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
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Dave

--

Again, and your response supports my contention, it was the "Greatest
Generation" that created the excesses of consumerism and capitalism, which
led to the Me Generation and its off-spring of today. Your selective memory
seems to not recall the excessive consumerism of the fifties, of that very
same "Greatest Generation" you so revere. It was certainly NOT the "hippies"
who created this society that you so roundly reject, but rather, just the
opposite. It was backlash against the consumerism of the Greatest Generation
that created the Hippies, who still live and are perhaps among the most
moral and honest, not to mention polite, Generation of this century.

FYI, the "hippies" still exist, and they're some of the most giving, most
polite and most generous of our sub-cultures. I know, I was one, still am
inside, and I've lived around them all my life. And some of the greatest
members of your own in-between generation, the Bohemians, but also the same
people who built NASA and developed computers, some of their best, were the
ones who created the Hippie movement.

No, what is caused the "breakdown" you're whining about is the natural
response against "polite" and "respectful" hypocrites who, just like Kennedy
and astronauts and their kin, were part of the "Greatest Generation". Only
what they got out of it was the meanest, crassest form of Capitalism yet,
and it is THAT mean, crass, unfettered and mostly Republican-led deregulated
capitalism that has led to today's societal despicable mores. Their
counter-parts, the "Politically Correct" pseudo-Hipppies, just as
capitalistic and just as lacking in true manners, have taken things to
extremes, also, and the backlash is just as much against them.

But there's hope. A lot of today's children and are out there on the front
lines, working to bring self-respect back to our society, and self-respect
is the only path toward respect for others.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
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No, it was the hippies. Sorry, I wasn't part and parcel of that
"movement", and my values echo those of my parents, brought up during the
Great Depression, not the Boomer set. I served during the Vietnam War,
while they were getting high on acid.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Ummm.... It was the Greatest Generation that created the society that you
so
demonize.

Blame Frankenstein, not the monster.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Maybe you ought to read "The Greatest Generation", and get back to me on
that. If you think personal values, and one's sense of personal
responsibility
and accountability, haven't changed much since then, then ....

Angel wrote:
No, it wasn't.

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Apparently my attempt at sarcasm was too subtle. :-)

Angel wrote:
Bill in Co.

Correction: Note below YOUR comment.

Angel

"Angel" wrote in message
...
Note Below
"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Angel wrote:
Buffalo,

Maybe (98 Guy) knows more about computers, I am learning more
about
them every day. He seems to know NOTHING about Scruples, Morals
and Integrity, or he just doesn't care about what the difference
is
between right and wrong.
This subject has nothing to do with computer knowledge. This
concerns
the difference between right and wrong, scruples, morality and
integrity,
nothing else.
Angel

"scruples, morality and integrity"??? Wrong era and wrong
generation for that! You old fogie, you!!!!

All I have to say about your comment is: Do, Write and Say unto
others
AS you would want them to Do, Write and Say to you. It would be a
better
world if everyone believed and did this. Scruples, morality and
integrity has
NEVER been connected with era or generation. It has never gone out
of
style.
Of course, there is nothing that would change your mind if you had
your mind
set on "wrong era and wrong generation" no matter what. Anyway, you
do
not know what generation I am from, this may give you a hint: I go
to
University
classes. Right now, I am taking Philosophy classes. Maybe you should
be going to those classes.

Angel

"Buffalo" wrote in message
. ..


Bill in Co. wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
Angel wrote:
Thanks Dan,

You have just asked "98 Guy" the same question I was going to
ask.
He checked ONLY 1/3rd of the downloaded Pirated Win98SE? he
he is in for a great surprise!! Of course, he is a "know it
all" and
no matter what. In his own opinion, he is never wrong no
matter
what! He is just a Troll! looking for someone to pick on.

Angel

And who might you just be??

She is Angel.

Well, Duh? I think he (98 Guy) knows a hell of a lot more
about Win98 and computers than Angel.