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system restore fix Noel
As many times as I have mentioned that my system restore
never works no one has ever offered a solution. I was nosing around somewhere possibly Pit Stop and found this info. After I installed the fix sytem restore worked the first time I tried it. Saved me a major headache. Wonder why microsoft didn't have this in their updates. Check here http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;290700&Product=winme Kelly Smith Ohio |
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system restore fix Noel
Kelly,
Microsoft DO have the 290700 patch in their updates and have done since late March 2001 since when it has been available via Win Me's Automatic Update, the Windows Update site, the Windows Catalogue and from a direct link in the associated Knowledge base article KB290700. What probably happened in your case is that you did at one time install this patch but then subsequently chose for some reason to reinstall Win Me over itself and the forgot that this meant you needed to reinstall the various patches you had installed before reinstalling Win Me. The problem being exacerbated by the Windows Update site not knowing you had reinstalled Win Me and therefore not knowing that the patches were no longer present due to the reinstall not having set the various flags in the registry used to indicate that a patch is installed. May I recommend to you to download and use the Belarc Advisor (http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html) which will help you in identifying which patches needed to be reinstalled. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Kelly Smith wrote: As many times as I have mentioned that my system restore never works no one has ever offered a solution. I was nosing around somewhere possibly Pit Stop and found this info. After I installed the fix sytem restore worked the first time I tried it. Saved me a major headache. Wonder why microsoft didn't have this in their updates. Check here http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;290700&Product=winme |
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system restore fix Noel
Mike you have hit the nail on the head. My daughter
reinstalled over windows a while back. I installed Belarc and and a directx patch. thx Kelly -----Original Message----- Kelly, Microsoft DO have the 290700 patch in their updates and have done since late March 2001 since when it has been available via Win Me's Automatic Update, the Windows Update site, the Windows Catalogue and from a direct link in the associated Knowledge base article KB290700. What probably happened in your case is that you did at one time install this patch but then subsequently chose for some reason to reinstall Win Me over itself and the forgot that this meant you needed to reinstall the various patches you had installed before reinstalling Win Me. The problem being exacerbated by the Windows Update site not knowing you had reinstalled Win Me and therefore not knowing that the patches were no longer present due to the reinstall not having set the various flags in the registry used to indicate that a patch is installed. May I recommend to you to download and use the Belarc Advisor (http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html) which will help you in identifying which patches needed to be reinstalled. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Kelly Smith wrote: As many times as I have mentioned that my system restore never works no one has ever offered a solution. I was nosing around somewhere possibly Pit Stop and found this info. After I installed the fix sytem restore worked the first time I tried it. Saved me a major headache. Wonder why microsoft didn't have this in their updates. Check here http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;290700&Product=winme . |
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system restore fix Noel
Thanks for that feedback Kelly.
I would strongly urge that anyone who reinstalls Win Me over itself for any reason then download the Belarc Advisor and check their system for which patches need to be reinstalled since, as I mentioned, the Windows Update site can't handle such a reinstall and will report that all are present and correct. Regards, -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Kelly Smith wrote: Mike you have hit the nail on the head. My daughter reinstalled over windows a while back. I installed Belarc and and a directx patch. |
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system restore fix Noel
Only problem is Belarc does not list every patch. But the critical ones are
listed. I've been using this product for several years and it has really helped. "Mike M" wrote in message ... Thanks for that feedback Kelly. I would strongly urge that anyone who reinstalls Win Me over itself for any reason then download the Belarc Advisor and check their system for which patches need to be reinstalled since, as I mentioned, the Windows Update site can't handle such a reinstall and will report that all are present and correct. Regards, -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Kelly Smith wrote: Mike you have hit the nail on the head. My daughter reinstalled over windows a while back. I installed Belarc and and a directx patch. |
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system restore fix Noel
Belarc will not report on patches which have been superseded by later patches.
For example it will only ever check for the latest Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer. Otherwise I believe it will report on any patch that is broken and needs to be reinstalled. If you know of any critical patch for Win Me that Belarc does not check then please post details as this will be of benefit to other users as I am unaware of any that Belarc misses. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP upscope wrote: Only problem is Belarc does not list every patch. But the critical ones are listed. I've been using this product for several years and it has really helped. |
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system restore fix Noel
Mike M wrote:
Belarc will not report on patches which have been superseded by later patches. For example it will only ever check for the latest Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer. Otherwise I believe it will report on any patch that is broken and needs to be reinstalled. If you know of any critical patch for Win Me that Belarc does not check then please post details as this will be of benefit to other users as I am unaware of any that Belarc misses. Which registry settings are the patches in? If it's all in one place it might be easier when doing a refresh install, just to reset the entries to let WindowsUpdate start from scratch (?) Rick |
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system restore fix Noel
The problem with that approach Rick is that there are a lot of other keys in
that location other than those for patches installed via the Windows Update site. I keep meaning to put together a script that will clear down the WU entries but decided that since it would need to be continuously updated to instead let Belarc do the work for me. BTW most but not all updates and patches add a sub-key to the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components and then set the value IsInstalled=1 when the patch is successfully installed. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Rick T wrote: Which registry settings are the patches in? If it's all in one place it might be easier when doing a refresh install, just to reset the entries to let WindowsUpdate start from scratch (?) |
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system restore fix Noel
AFAIK, What Belarc does is look for the 'isinstalled' entry, and if it's
set to 1, then it checks file versions. if the entry doesn't exist, then it ignores the patch, and if it's set to zero I have no idea what it does!g -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp "Mike M" wrote in message ... The problem with that approach Rick is that there are a lot of other keys in that location other than those for patches installed via the Windows Update site. I keep meaning to put together a script that will clear down the WU entries but decided that since it would need to be continuously updated to instead let Belarc do the work for me. BTW most but not all updates and patches add a sub-key to the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components and then set the value IsInstalled=1 when the patch is successfully installed. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Rick T wrote: Which registry settings are the patches in? If it's all in one place it might be easier when doing a refresh install, just to reset the entries to let WindowsUpdate start from scratch (?) |
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system restore fix Noel
Which is exactly what is required. Unfortunately the Windows Update site
simply checks that IsInstalled set = 1 and doesn't check file versions. Hence why I recommend the use of Belarc. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Noel Paton wrote: AFAIK, What Belarc does is look for the 'isinstalled' entry, and if it's set to 1, then it checks file versions. if the entry doesn't exist, then it ignores the patch, and if it's set to zero I have no idea what it does!g |
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