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January 27th 05, 09:09 PM
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Sorry, the letter has already been mailed.
"PCR" wrote in message ... : Don't tell them I said anything! It's Brian A. who mean-mouths them the : most. Wait a while, & see whether anything happens to him, before you : mail that letter. Didn't Microsoft install GoBack in it's ME machines? : XP too??? They may not be your greatest ally in this venture, then. : Careful! : : : -- : Thanks or Good Luck, : There may be humor in this post, and, : Naturally, you will not sue, : should things get worse after this, : PCR : : "Dan" wrote in message : ... : | Well GoBack is working okay for me in 98SE and I have System Restore : enabled : | to the max. capacity in XP PRO. so hopefully I should be okay. PCR, I : fired : | (sent) off a letter to Symantec Headquarters telling them about the : | complaints that users of this newsgroup have with their products. In : | addition, I mentioned how terrible their support is on the telephone. : I : | await to see if they will respond to me or if I will get the cold : shoulder. : | Of course if they completely ignore me then I must indeed elevate this : issue : | to the next stage of solving this issue. I will let you know what : happens : | and if I do indeed need to elevate this to a higher authority. I am : | definately thankful to have good relations with Microsoft. : | : | "PCR" wrote in message : | ... : | : It seems GoBack is powerful. Definitely, if it allows a full system : | : backup, do that. But selectively restoring system files may prove : | : problematical. This is because interrelations between the system : files : | : and between those & installed programs can cause them to become : | : out-of-synch, when one is replaced without the other. : | : : | : I guess you can get the hang of restoring selective files, but : really : | : Sinatra was right: All Or Nothing At All. : | : : | : I really don't even much like "Scanreg /Restore" for that same : reason. : | : : | : : | : -- : | : Thanks or Good Luck, : | : There may be humor in this post, and, : | : Naturally, you will not sue, : | : should things get worse after this, : | : PCR : | : : | : "Roger Fink" wrote in message : | : ... : | : | Gotta comment on that, because my own experience doesn't quite : square : | : with : | : | your and Glee's comments. Ever since I gave up Cable TV, my : civility : | : | quotient's gone up, so it shouldn't be too bad. : | : | : | : | First off, while it's possible to do it, I think it would be a : misuse : | : of the : | : | program, or at least asking for trouble, to search out registry : files : | : in : | : | GoBack and I've never done that. The Fix-It Utilites suite, IMO, : never : | : quite : | : | got it's due, probably because the AV program wasn't very good. : But : | : some of : | : | its other features are nicely repackaged Microsoft features (such : as : | : | TweakUI), and others, like System Saver (vs scanreg/ restore), I : think : | : are : | : | genuine improvements, since you can use it in the boot sequence : (on : | : | diskette) or in Windows. I suppose those file check-offs could : prove : | : dicey, : | : | but in this case with your help they saved a lot of trial and : error : | : with : | : | possibly unproductive results. Also the registry cleaner, with all : the : | : usual : | : | caveats about using this tool still applying, is a breeze to use : and : | : hugely : | : | effective. : | : | : | : | I've always perceived a kind of lukewarm indifference from MVPs on : | : these : | : | boards to GoBack and I've never understood why. I think many, : maybe : | : most, of : | : | the "analytical" solutions to problems posted here could be : dispensed : | : with : | : | simply by Going Back. : | : | : | : | In GoBack there is ability to easily and selectively recover files : | : that have : | : | been deleted or maimed due to operator error or OS problems. This : is : | : huge. : | : | Computer pros and the unwashed computing masses alike lose emails : and : | : data : | : | files, blow out rinky-dink dll's, and so forth. Like ripping a : board : | : on a : | : | table saw, you can be doing everything right and still get : clobbered, : | : as : | : | several current threads on this board including this one will : attest : | : to. : | : | Sometimes a damaged system file has been upgraded from the : | : installation disk : | : | so restoring from the disk, when you have that option, can be a : | : crapshoot. : | : | This is the only program I know where recovery of files is : virtually : | : | guaranteed, and without bringing a lot of user-smarts to bear on : the : | : problem : | : | (which often gets you into more trouble). : | : | : | : | I would think the Revert feature is beyond criticism, since (I : | : believe) all : | : | associations are maintained for any point in time. For me : reversion is : | : | successful about 95% of the time. I use it often and NEVER has it : made : | : a : | : | problem worse. (OT - interesting example of when it wasn't : successful: : | : MS : | : | did a final upgrade for it's IntelliPoint Optical software awhile : back : | : and : | : | anyone using WIN98 and a 5 button Microsoft mouse who installed it : | : | irretrievably lost 4th & 5th button functionality. For anybody : with : | : this : | : | problem, suggest downloading Kensington Mouseworks, which is even : | : better, : | : | and bugless) : | : | : | : | It's also a superior uninstall scheme for recently installed : programs : | : or : | : | applets. With conventional uninstall, depending on how good it is, : you : | : may : | : | have leftover registry associations or shared OS files when you're : | : done. Or : | : | other visible files and folders in Explorer that you're reluctant : to : | : erase : | : | because of these problems. If you revert to before the : installation, : | : you : | : | don't have this problem, and in fact if the installation was an : | : upgrade, you : | : | get your old program back. So, for example, I could revert from : | : RealPlayer : | : | 10 back to RealPlayer 8 without it trying to set up base camp on : my : | : computer : | : | and otherwise bugging the crap out of me. : | : | : | : | But the above are just trifles. The main point is that GoBack has : made : | : me a : | : | much more accomplished computer user because there is much more : I'm : | : willing : | : | to do simply because the level of risk is kept within acceptable : | : limits. I : | : | still make mistakes but now I do it with confidence. And the less : fear : | : in : | : | your belly, the more you're willing to take on, which is how you : learn : | : to do : | : | things on these machines. It really is a piece of elegance in the : | : chaotic : | : | environment of Windows computing. : | : | : | : | : | : | PCR wrote: : | : | Glad to hear it. You are a lucky one. : | : | : | : | Now, as Glee intimated, "Scanreg /Restore" may well be : preferable to : | : | using GoBack to restore "Registry Files", as it calls them. This : is : | : | because /Restore will keep the Registry (System.dat & User.dat) : in : | : | synch with System.ini & Win.ini. They are all in the same : | : RB???.cab's : | : | that /Restore works with. : | : | : | : | Since GoBack lists Registry Files apart from System.ini & : Win.ini, I : | : | presume it treats them separately, & Registry Files is only the : | : | .dat's. Then, any app that puts matter into both the .dat's & an : | : .ini : | : | may get confused when one is restored w/o the other. : | : | : | : | : | : | : | : | PCR wrote: : | : | Probably the Registry files affect both products. With luck, : | : | System.ini will only affect the Audio. It certainly does have : | : Audio : | : | matter inside. As you said, GoBack, if it fails. Then... : | : | : | : | PCR - that was a great call. Restoring System.ini restored the : | : audio : | : | and left Norton alone. I still have to deal with the : | : Troubleshooting : | : | situation, which is more a case of living with a result that is : | : | somewhat less than I'd like than anything else, but at least : it's : | : | good to know that the rest of the system is functioning, at : least : | : | the 2% of it I've looked at. : | : | : | : | : | : : | : : | : | : : 
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January 27th 05, 10:21 PM
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Go hibernate with the Bear, then!
-- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Dan" wrote in message ... | Sorry, the letter has already been mailed. | | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | : Don't tell them I said anything! It's Brian A. who mean-mouths them the | : most. Wait a while, & see whether anything happens to him, before you | : mail that letter. Didn't Microsoft install GoBack in it's ME machines? | : XP too??? They may not be your greatest ally in this venture, then. | : Careful! | : | : | : -- | : Thanks or Good Luck, | : There may be humor in this post, and, | : Naturally, you will not sue, | : should things get worse after this, | : PCR | : | : "Dan" wrote in message | : ... | : | Well GoBack is working okay for me in 98SE and I have System Restore | : enabled | : | to the max. capacity in XP PRO. so hopefully I should be okay. PCR, I | : fired | : | (sent) off a letter to Symantec Headquarters telling them about the | : | complaints that users of this newsgroup have with their products. In | : | addition, I mentioned how terrible their support is on the telephone. | : I | : | await to see if they will respond to me or if I will get the cold | : shoulder. | : | Of course if they completely ignore me then I must indeed elevate this | : issue | : | to the next stage of solving this issue. I will let you know what | : happens | : | and if I do indeed need to elevate this to a higher authority. I am | : | definately thankful to have good relations with Microsoft. | : | | : | "PCR" wrote in message | : | ... | : | : It seems GoBack is powerful. Definitely, if it allows a full system | : | : backup, do that. But selectively restoring system files may prove | : | : problematical. This is because interrelations between the system | : files | : | : and between those & installed programs can cause them to become | : | : out-of-synch, when one is replaced without the other. | : | : | : | : I guess you can get the hang of restoring selective files, but | : really | : | : Sinatra was right: All Or Nothing At All. | : | : | : | : I really don't even much like "Scanreg /Restore" for that same | : reason. | : | : | : | : | : | : -- | : | : Thanks or Good Luck, | : | : There may be humor in this post, and, | : | : Naturally, you will not sue, | : | : should things get worse after this, | : | : PCR | : | : ....snip
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January 27th 05, 11:25 PM
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PCR wrote:
It seems GoBack is powerful. Definitely, if it allows a full system backup, do that. But selectively restoring system files may prove problematical. This is because interrelations between the system files and between those & installed programs can cause them to become out-of-synch, when one is replaced without the other. I guess you can get the hang of restoring selective files, but really Sinatra was right: All Or Nothing At All. "I did it MYYYYYY way" (thanks for that set-up)
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January 27th 05, 11:32 PM
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Telephone support? Hey, India is a toll call! Actually I did need their help
once and their email support from India was actually excellent - very polite, knowledgable and responsive, but I've come around to the majority opinion regarding Nortonbloat (plus they've gotten a little greedy). Dan wrote: Well GoBack is working okay for me in 98SE and I have System Restore enabled to the max. capacity in XP PRO. so hopefully I should be okay. PCR, I fired (sent) off a letter to Symantec Headquarters telling them about the complaints that users of this newsgroup have with their products. In addition, I mentioned how terrible their support is on the telephone. I await to see if they will respond to me or if I will get the cold shoulder. Of course if they completely ignore me then I must indeed elevate this issue to the next stage of solving this issue. I will let you know what happens and if I do indeed need to elevate this to a higher authority. I am definately thankful to have good relations with Microsoft. "PCR" wrote in message ... It seems GoBack is powerful. Definitely, if it allows a full system backup, do that. But selectively restoring system files may prove problematical. This is because interrelations between the system files and between those & installed programs can cause them to become out-of-synch, when one is replaced without the other. I guess you can get the hang of restoring selective files, but really Sinatra was right: All Or Nothing At All. I really don't even much like "Scanreg /Restore" for that same reason. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Roger Fink" wrote in message ... Gotta comment on that, because my own experience doesn't quite square with your and Glee's comments. Ever since I gave up Cable TV, my civility quotient's gone up, so it shouldn't be too bad. First off, while it's possible to do it, I think it would be a misuse of the program, or at least asking for trouble, to search out registry files in GoBack and I've never done that. The Fix-It Utilites suite, IMO, never quite got it's due, probably because the AV program wasn't very good. But some of its other features are nicely repackaged Microsoft features (such as TweakUI), and others, like System Saver (vs scanreg/ restore), I think are genuine improvements, since you can use it in the boot sequence (on diskette) or in Windows. I suppose those file check-offs could prove dicey, but in this case with your help they saved a lot of trial and error with possibly unproductive results. Also the registry cleaner, with all the usual caveats about using this tool still applying, is a breeze to use and hugely effective. I've always perceived a kind of lukewarm indifference from MVPs on these boards to GoBack and I've never understood why. I think many, maybe most, of the "analytical" solutions to problems posted here could be dispensed with simply by Going Back. In GoBack there is ability to easily and selectively recover files that have been deleted or maimed due to operator error or OS problems. This is huge. Computer pros and the unwashed computing masses alike lose emails and data files, blow out rinky-dink dll's, and so forth. Like ripping a board on a table saw, you can be doing everything right and still get clobbered, as several current threads on this board including this one will attest to. Sometimes a damaged system file has been upgraded from the installation disk so restoring from the disk, when you have that option, can be a crapshoot. This is the only program I know where recovery of files is virtually guaranteed, and without bringing a lot of user-smarts to bear on the problem (which often gets you into more trouble). I would think the Revert feature is beyond criticism, since (I believe) all associations are maintained for any point in time. For me reversion is successful about 95% of the time. I use it often and NEVER has it made a problem worse. (OT - interesting example of when it wasn't successful: MS did a final upgrade for it's IntelliPoint Optical software awhile back and anyone using WIN98 and a 5 button Microsoft mouse who installed it irretrievably lost 4th & 5th button functionality. For anybody with this problem, suggest downloading Kensington Mouseworks, which is even better, and bugless) It's also a superior uninstall scheme for recently installed programs or applets. With conventional uninstall, depending on how good it is, you may have leftover registry associations or shared OS files when you're done. Or other visible files and folders in Explorer that you're reluctant to erase because of these problems. If you revert to before the installation, you don't have this problem, and in fact if the installation was an upgrade, you get your old program back. So, for example, I could revert from RealPlayer 10 back to RealPlayer 8 without it trying to set up base camp on my computer and otherwise bugging the crap out of me. But the above are just trifles. The main point is that GoBack has made me a much more accomplished computer user because there is much more I'm willing to do simply because the level of risk is kept within acceptable limits. I still make mistakes but now I do it with confidence. And the less fear in your belly, the more you're willing to take on, which is how you learn to do things on these machines. It really is a piece of elegance in the chaotic environment of Windows computing. PCR wrote: Glad to hear it. You are a lucky one. Now, as Glee intimated, "Scanreg /Restore" may well be preferable to using GoBack to restore "Registry Files", as it calls them. This is because /Restore will keep the Registry (System.dat & User.dat) in synch with System.ini & Win.ini. They are all in the same RB???.cab's that /Restore works with. Since GoBack lists Registry Files apart from System.ini & Win.ini, I presume it treats them separately, & Registry Files is only the .dat's. Then, any app that puts matter into both the .dat's & an .ini may get confused when one is restored w/o the other. PCR wrote: Probably the Registry files affect both products. With luck, System.ini will only affect the Audio. It certainly does have Audio matter inside. As you said, GoBack, if it fails. Then... PCR - that was a great call. Restoring System.ini restored the audio and left Norton alone. I still have to deal with the Troubleshooting situation, which is more a case of living with a result that is somewhat less than I'd like than anything else, but at least it's good to know that the rest of the system is functioning, at least the 2% of it I've looked at.
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January 27th 05, 11:59 PM
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Well, I do not care too much for the outsourcing of jobs from the States to
other countries. I will not go into it because it gets me a little hot under the collar. "Roger Fink" wrote in message ... : Telephone support? Hey, India is a toll call! Actually I did need their help : once and their email support from India was actually excellent - very : polite, knowledgable and responsive, but I've come around to the majority : opinion regarding Nortonbloat (plus they've gotten a little greedy). : : Dan wrote: : Well GoBack is working okay for me in 98SE and I have System Restore : enabled to the max. capacity in XP PRO. so hopefully I should be : okay. PCR, I fired (sent) off a letter to Symantec Headquarters : telling them about the complaints that users of this newsgroup have : with their products. In addition, I mentioned how terrible their : support is on the telephone. I await to see if they will respond to : me or if I will get the cold shoulder. Of course if they completely : ignore me then I must indeed elevate this issue to the next stage of : solving this issue. I will let you know what happens and if I do : indeed need to elevate this to a higher authority. I am definately : thankful to have good relations with Microsoft. : : "PCR" wrote in message : ... : It seems GoBack is powerful. Definitely, if it allows a full system : backup, do that. But selectively restoring system files may prove : problematical. This is because interrelations between the system : files and between those & installed programs can cause them to become : out-of-synch, when one is replaced without the other. : : I guess you can get the hang of restoring selective files, but really : Sinatra was right: All Or Nothing At All. : : I really don't even much like "Scanreg /Restore" for that same : reason. : : : -- : Thanks or Good Luck, : There may be humor in this post, and, : Naturally, you will not sue, : should things get worse after this, : PCR : : "Roger Fink" wrote in message : ... : Gotta comment on that, because my own experience doesn't quite : square with your and Glee's comments. Ever since I gave up Cable : TV, my civility quotient's gone up, so it shouldn't be too bad. : : First off, while it's possible to do it, I think it would be a : misuse of the program, or at least asking for trouble, to search : out registry files in GoBack and I've never done that. The Fix-It : Utilites suite, IMO, never quite got it's due, probably because the : AV program wasn't very good. But some of its other features are : nicely repackaged Microsoft features (such as TweakUI), and others, : like System Saver (vs scanreg/ restore), I think are genuine : improvements, since you can use it in the boot sequence (on : diskette) or in Windows. I suppose those file check-offs could : prove dicey, but in this case with your help they saved a lot of : trial and error with possibly unproductive results. Also the : registry cleaner, with all the usual caveats about using this tool : still applying, is a breeze to use and hugely effective. : : I've always perceived a kind of lukewarm indifference from MVPs on : these boards to GoBack and I've never understood why. I think many, : maybe most, of the "analytical" solutions to problems posted here : could be dispensed with simply by Going Back. : : In GoBack there is ability to easily and selectively recover files : that have : been deleted or maimed due to operator error or OS problems. This : is huge. Computer pros and the unwashed computing masses alike lose : emails and data files, blow out rinky-dink dll's, and so forth. : Like ripping a board : on a : table saw, you can be doing everything right and still get : clobbered, as several current threads on this board including this : one will attest to. Sometimes a damaged system file has been : upgraded from the : installation disk : so restoring from the disk, when you have that option, can be a : crapshoot. This is the only program I know where recovery of files : is virtually guaranteed, and without bringing a lot of user-smarts : to bear on the problem (which often gets you into more trouble). : : I would think the Revert feature is beyond criticism, since (I : believe) all : associations are maintained for any point in time. For me reversion : is successful about 95% of the time. I use it often and NEVER has : it made a problem worse. (OT - interesting example of when it : wasn't successful: MS did a final upgrade for it's IntelliPoint : Optical software awhile back and anyone using WIN98 and a 5 button : Microsoft mouse who installed it irretrievably lost 4th & 5th : button functionality. For anybody with this problem, suggest : downloading Kensington Mouseworks, which is even better, and : bugless) : : It's also a superior uninstall scheme for recently installed : programs or applets. With conventional uninstall, depending on how : good it is, you may have leftover registry associations or shared : OS files when you're done. Or other visible files and folders in : Explorer that you're reluctant to erase because of these problems. : If you revert to before the installation, you don't have this : problem, and in fact if the installation was an upgrade, you get : your old program back. So, for example, I could revert from : RealPlayer 10 back to RealPlayer 8 without it trying to set up base : camp on my computer and otherwise bugging the crap out of me. : : But the above are just trifles. The main point is that GoBack has : made me a much more accomplished computer user because there is : much more I'm willing to do simply because the level of risk is : kept within acceptable limits. I still make mistakes but now I do : it with confidence. And the less fear in your belly, the more : you're willing to take on, which is how you learn to do things on : these machines. It really is a piece of elegance in the chaotic : environment of Windows computing. : : : PCR wrote: : Glad to hear it. You are a lucky one. : : Now, as Glee intimated, "Scanreg /Restore" may well be preferable : to using GoBack to restore "Registry Files", as it calls them. : This is because /Restore will keep the Registry (System.dat & : User.dat) in synch with System.ini & Win.ini. They are all in the : same : RB???.cab's : that /Restore works with. : : Since GoBack lists Registry Files apart from System.ini & Win.ini, : I presume it treats them separately, & Registry Files is only the : .dat's. Then, any app that puts matter into both the .dat's & an : .ini : may get confused when one is restored w/o the other. : : : : PCR wrote: : Probably the Registry files affect both products. With luck, : System.ini will only affect the Audio. It certainly does have : Audio : matter inside. As you said, GoBack, if it fails. Then... : : PCR - that was a great call. Restoring System.ini restored the : audio : and left Norton alone. I still have to deal with the : Troubleshooting : situation, which is more a case of living with a result that is : somewhat less than I'd like than anything else, but at least it's : good to know that the rest of the system is functioning, at least : the 2% of it I've looked at. : :
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January 28th 05, 04:23 AM
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I have not used Ghost in years....I use Drive Image from PowerQuest, which ahs since
been bought out by Symantec and incorporated into their new version of Ghost. I recommend Image for Windows and Image for DOS, from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/, or R-Drive Image from RTT (http://www.drive-image.com/). -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Roger Fink" wrote in message ... As for me, no preventive uninstalls for useful software with unexperienced problems, not that I doubt their existence. By the way I've read many complaints about Ghost, although I've never used it myself. Dan wrote: Thanks Glen! That is definately worth considering since I am a user of GoBack. I did not know the negative aspect of using GoBack previously. I also know that GoBack will not change your BIOS back so if you make any changes there and cannot start your PC then you are on your own. "glee" wrote in message ... Apparently you haven't had a bad experience with GoBack yet. The info I have is that GoBack monitors everything and creates low level hooks into the HD structure. It changes the partition ID making it nearly impossible for the average user to do things outside of Windows or using the standard DOS tools. The usual MS tools (think Fdisk) can't handle Goback partitions at all and neither can a lot of 3rd party tools. The fact is that most if not all of the advantages you mention can be done far more safely by using an imaging program to image your drive periodically. (Norton Ghost, terabyteunlimited's Image, or R-Drive Image, for example). -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Roger Fink" wrote in message ... Gotta comment on that, because my own experience doesn't quite square with your and Glee's comments. Ever since I gave up Cable TV, my civility quotient's gone up, so it shouldn't be too bad. First off, while it's possible to do it, I think it would be a misuse of the program, or at least asking for trouble, to search out registry files in GoBack and I've never done that. The Fix-It Utilites suite, IMO, never quite got it's due, probably because the AV program wasn't very good. But some of its other features are nicely repackaged Microsoft features (such as TweakUI), and others, like System Saver (vs scanreg/ restore), I think are genuine improvements, since you can use it in the boot sequence (on diskette) or in Windows. I suppose those file check-offs could prove dicey, but in this case with your help they saved a lot of trial and error with possibly unproductive results. Also the registry cleaner, with all the usual caveats about using this tool still applying, is a breeze to use and hugely effective. I've always perceived a kind of lukewarm indifference from MVPs on these boards to GoBack and I've never understood why. I think many, maybe most, of the "analytical" solutions to problems posted here could be dispensed with simply by Going Back. In GoBack there is ability to easily and selectively recover files that have been deleted or maimed due to operator error or OS problems. This is huge. Computer pros and the unwashed computing masses alike lose emails and data files, blow out rinky-dink dll's, and so forth. Like ripping a board on a table saw, you can be doing everything right and still get clobbered, as several current threads on this board including this one will attest to. Sometimes a damaged system file has been upgraded from the installation disk so restoring from the disk, when you have that option, can be a crapshoot. This is the only program I know where recovery of files is virtually guaranteed, and without bringing a lot of user-smarts to bear on the problem (which often gets you into more trouble). I would think the Revert feature is beyond criticism, since (I believe) all associations are maintained for any point in time. For me reversion is successful about 95% of the time. I use it often and NEVER has it made a problem worse. (OT - interesting example of when it wasn't successful: MS did a final upgrade for it's IntelliPoint Optical software awhile back and anyone using WIN98 and a 5 button Microsoft mouse who installed it irretrievably lost 4th & 5th button functionality. For anybody with this problem, suggest downloading Kensington Mouseworks, which is even better, and bugless) It's also a superior uninstall scheme for recently installed programs or applets. With conventional uninstall, depending on how good it is, you may have leftover registry associations or shared OS files when you're done. Or other visible files and folders in Explorer that you're reluctant to erase because of these problems. If you revert to before the installation, you don't have this problem, and in fact if the installation was an upgrade, you get your old program back. So, for example, I could revert from RealPlayer 10 back to RealPlayer 8 without it trying to set up base camp on my computer and otherwise bugging the crap out of me. But the above are just trifles. The main point is that GoBack has made me a much more accomplished computer user because there is much more I'm willing to do simply because the level of risk is kept within acceptable limits. I still make mistakes but now I do it with confidence. And the less fear in your belly, the more you're willing to take on, which is how you learn to do things on these machines. It really is a piece of elegance in the chaotic environment of Windows computing. PCR wrote: Glad to hear it. You are a lucky one. Now, as Glee intimated, "Scanreg /Restore" may well be preferable to using GoBack to restore "Registry Files", as it calls them. This is because /Restore will keep the Registry (System.dat & User.dat) in synch with System.ini & Win.ini. They are all in the same RB???.cab's that /Restore works with. Since GoBack lists Registry Files apart from System.ini & Win.ini, I presume it treats them separately, & Registry Files is only the .dat's. Then, any app that puts matter into both the .dat's & an .ini may get confused when one is restored w/o the other. PCR wrote: Probably the Registry files affect both products. With luck, System.ini will only affect the Audio. It certainly does have Audio matter inside. As you said, GoBack, if it fails. Then... PCR - that was a great call. Restoring System.ini restored the audio and left Norton alone. I still have to deal with the Troubleshooting situation, which is more a case of living with a result that is somewhat less than I'd like than anything else, but at least it's good to know that the rest of the system is functioning, at least the 2% of it I've looked at.
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He was an octogenarian by then, hmph, & just about the same age as my
uncle when he punched me in the jaw! -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Roger Fink" wrote in message ... | PCR wrote: | It seems GoBack is powerful. Definitely, if it allows a full system | backup, do that. But selectively restoring system files may prove | problematical. This is because interrelations between the system files | and between those & installed programs can cause them to become | out-of-synch, when one is replaced without the other. | | I guess you can get the hang of restoring selective files, but really | Sinatra was right: All Or Nothing At All. | | "I did it MYYYYYY way" (thanks for that set-up) | |
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January 29th 05, 04:02 AM
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I believe that's one illegal operation NOT covered in the Microsoft KB.
True story, at least I think it is, as told told to me by my late cousin and I've no reason to doubt him. He was at a Sinatra concert when Sinatra stopped the music and said to the audience that he was having a bad night and singing terribly and was therefore now doing the concert for free - everyone got their money back. When was the last time Metallica did THAT? PCR wrote: He was an octogenarian by then, hmph, & just about the same age as my uncle when he punched me in the jaw! PCR wrote: It seems GoBack is powerful. Definitely, if it allows a full system backup, do that. But selectively restoring system files may prove problematical. This is because interrelations between the system files and between those & installed programs can cause them to become out-of-synch, when one is replaced without the other. I guess you can get the hang of restoring selective files, but really Sinatra was right: All Or Nothing At All. "I did it MYYYYYY way" (thanks for that set-up)
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January 29th 05, 05:19 AM
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Metallica was the band that got all upset about their songs being shared in
Napster some time ago, because it was cutting into their profits (I think they had to cut out a few Lear jet excursions, and fly business class, or somethin like that). Roger Fink wrote: I believe that's one illegal operation NOT covered in the Microsoft KB. True story, at least I think it is, as told told to me by my late cousin and I've no reason to doubt him. He was at a Sinatra concert when Sinatra stopped the music and said to the audience that he was having a bad night and singing terribly and was therefore now doing the concert for free - everyone got their money back. When was the last time Metallica did THAT? PCR wrote: He was an octogenarian by then, hmph, & just about the same age as my uncle when he punched me in the jaw! PCR wrote: It seems GoBack is powerful. Definitely, if it allows a full system backup, do that. But selectively restoring system files may prove problematical. This is because interrelations between the system files and between those & installed programs can cause them to become out-of-synch, when one is replaced without the other. I guess you can get the hang of restoring selective files, but really Sinatra was right: All Or Nothing At All. "I did it MYYYYYY way" (thanks for that set-up)
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