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  #11  
Old January 16th 05, 06:34 AM
Skipper
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I had this problem a few years ago, and if I remember properly, there are a
few vxds that comprise VMM. (example configmg.vxd for one). Now it gets
really fuzzy...I think I had extract like five or six vxds to
Windows\System\VMM32...and these a
configmg.vxd
ntkern.vxd
vdd.vxd
vdmad.vxd
vflatd.vxd
vmouse.vxd
(I also found these other files the IFSMGR.VXD, IOS.VXD, MRCI2.VXD and
QEMMFIX.VXD.

HTH and good luck

"Star" wrote in message
...
Hi Dan,

"Dan" wrote in message
...
So, Star is your plan to format now and go with a dual-boot 98SE/XP Pro.
This is the way my system is configured with c:\drive having 98SE with

Fat32
and d:\drive having XP Pro. with NTFS. I have not bothered with extra
partitions but it is something that I may end up doing down the line.

Also,
I have only a little knowledge of the registry and my skills mainly lie

in
trying to get PC's clean from baddies. (aka spyware, viruses, malware,
adware, etc. -- my word for all of it) It is kinda nice that 98SE does

not
even know that XP exists and I am currently working to get my 98SE

install
nice and ready and then I plan to work more on getting XP Pro.

configured
properly.


* yes, mine was configured the same, I formatted 3 partition though, 98se
automatically goes to C:\ and was installed first, D:\was my partition for
data, E:\was XP F:\my Iomega zip, etc....

My plan may be to purchase 2000-Pro, I like it and it's a step up from
98-se.

Apple computers are okay but I hate using a one-button mouse.
Also, if you are a big artist, music fan or computer graphic designer

then
an
Apple may be best for you but if you are an all-around computer user

then
I
suggest Windows. Finally, there is even Linux to consider which I hear

has
more stability than Windows but I have not used it. Remember that to

have
the largest software library at our disposal then Windows is the way to

go.
I hope someone more knowledgeable than myself can help you fix your

computer.
BTW, can you possibly return your computer and get a brand new one. I

think
that Dell computers are fairly cheap or you could always build your

system
from the ground up. Perhaps the refurbished parts are somewhat

defective.
I
actually have never used a refurbished computer.


No, Dan, I built my P-3 while taking A+ certification, all new parts!!

After
2 yrs.I had problems. A tech at Boeing & old friend rebuilt it for me,

all
new, MB, P-4 cpu, etc..... I bought everything new, CD-RW, DVD, etc....
Maxtor HD not new, Iomega not new and modem is old, new floppy drive
though!!

I particularly don't like working inside the box, the MB can be hard to
place in the case. I TB-SHT Windows for myself and others. I'm strong on
partitioning, formatting & installing Windows and devices. I can usually
get a system up, even if it means taking it down and doing a clean

install.
A+ is not my calling, however I require a working puter!!

I'm not a geek or Windows guru, I just do the above well!!

Star

"Star" wrote in message

...
: Dan,
: No Dan, P-4, new MB and P-4 cpu....(6) mos. ago. It was a P-3, new ram

and
: ram upgrade, HD is Maxtor and excellent, no conflicts and h/w except

modem
: and Iomega zip are relatively new!! The puter was only 2 yrs. old

when
it
: was refurbished, the Jetway MB had leaky capacitors. I also put in a

CD-RW
: and a DVD.
:
: Oh well....... sigh I've been looking a MAC's, I just want

stability.
I
: didn't install XP most recently, had been dual booting. Have also been
: considering the purchase of W-2000 Pro.....
:
: No one has responded, except you...... sigh disappointed, Star
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: I am sorry to hear about your troubles, Star and I wonder if you

have
an
: old
: PC that has some hardware that is failing.
:
: "Star" wrote in message
: ...
: : Again, I'm looling for help/clarification from MVP or *savvy*

user.
: :
: : The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
: :
: : I have a new install of Windows... two wks. old.
: : The system has not been stable. I'm backing up everyday.
: :
: : Google didn't come up w/exact match.
: : 0028 VXD VMM06, had more luck.
: :
: : Windows starts up to this OE, I do ctl./alt/del and Windows

continues
to
: : load *only to be desktop w/selected bkgrnd color, mouse pointer

that
: : moves......, and nothing more. I do ct/alt/del, I see only

PC-cillin
: : running, no Explorer.
: :
: : I do ctl/alt/del and restart and, Windows will load normally.
: :
: : I went to Jim Elshelman's website, one of the best for Windows

errors.
: : I learned about this being a W95 problem and,
: : I learned about setup problems in W98.
: :
: : Can someone help.... RE this error and starting a W98 or W98SE

puter,
: what
: : the fix may be.
: :
: : I have such instability that I'm almost ready to take the puter

down,
: : partition, format and do another clean install of
: : Windows.
: :
: : I'm burned out, I love W98se, I have W-XP, I've been learning the
: internals
: : of Windows for yrs., you *must* if you want to maintain your OS.

No
pun
: : intended, I'm ready for a Macintosh!!
: :
: : Thank you,
: : Star
: :
: :
:
:
:
:






  #12  
Old January 16th 05, 06:34 AM
glee
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One thing to consider (though it will require you to open the case and make a very
close inspection) is that the new mobo's capacitors may have also started
leaking/bulging. As you got a replacement Jetway mobo, it is quite possible that
you got another board with defective capacitors, if it was an exact replacement.
Check the mobo at the base of the capacitors, for signs of leakage.....brown
deposits at the base of the capacitors.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Star" wrote in message ...

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
Star,
quote
The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
/quote
Is not exact.

** Brian, in 2 wks. I have gotten it several times since new install, have
checked
OE @ 0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06

You have also provided a bit more info in your response to Dan, although
more would be nice.

Whenever doing a search on any error message, try what becomes available.
If the text explaining the problem matches ever oh so close, try the
resolution. Near to 99% of the time, anything after the first 4 digits will
not repeat on the next occurrence, ex: 0028:xxxxxxxx to 0028:xxxxxxxpx. Also
many articles that mention an OS can/may still apply to another OS.

** Like I mentioned, I went to Jim Elshelman's page on OE"s... I think it's
one of the best!!
nothing matched, so I concentrated on VMM06, nothing related to
booting/starting Windows, actually this appears to be an error associated
w/W-95.

The first and foremost Q that comes into play is when the problem first
began. What was the last action performed?

** Like I mentioned in my original post, when I start/boot Windows, not
everytime.

You mention upgrading, more like rebuilding your system and I'm not speaking
of the OS.

Is your processor faster than 2.GHz? There is an issue with NDIS and faster
processors.
** It's 2.GHz
How much RAM have you installed? If more than 512MB, you need to either
lower the RAM, set a MaxFileCache and/or MaxPhysPage or install XP.
** Yes, I know, 512 installed, new, 6 mos. old, Fat 32, didn't install W-XP,
not dual booting.

Have you had a good peek in Device Manager to make sure there are no
conflicts?

** No Brian, I would reinstall device drivers, etc... everything cool in
D/M.

Have a read thru some of these to see if the help:
http://tinyurl.com/3vh2k

No, thank-you I will. Like I explained to Dan in the post I returned to him.
I built the puter while taking A+ certification, and it was rebuilt, all
new, except HD, modem, and Iomega zip.

I don't like working in the case, I'm fairly savy at partitioning,
formatting, clean install of Windows and installing devices..

Thank you, Star


--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Star" wrote in message
...
Again, I'm looling for help/clarification from MVP or *savvy* user.

The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06

I have a new install of Windows... two wks. old.
The system has not been stable. I'm backing up everyday.

Google didn't come up w/exact match.
0028 VXD VMM06, had more luck.

Windows starts up to this OE, I do ctl./alt/del and Windows continues to
load *only to be desktop w/selected bkgrnd color, mouse pointer that
moves......, and nothing more. I do ct/alt/del, I see only PC-cillin
running, no Explorer.

I do ctl/alt/del and restart and, Windows will load normally.

I went to Jim Elshelman's website, one of the best for Windows errors.
I learned about this being a W95 problem and,
I learned about setup problems in W98.

Can someone help.... RE this error and starting a W98 or W98SE puter,

what
the fix may be.

I have such instability that I'm almost ready to take the puter down,
partition, format and do another clean install of
Windows.

I'm burned out, I love W98se, I have W-XP, I've been learning the

internals
of Windows for yrs., you *must* if you want to maintain your OS. No pun
intended, I'm ready for a Macintosh!!

Thank you,
Star





  #13  
Old January 16th 05, 06:50 AM
Brian A.
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I'm sorry Star, but you're missing a few of the points here, so I will =
re-iterate hopefully in a way that is easily followed. I will also veer =
away from inline to avoid confusion. Please read all very carefully to =
avoid confusion and misunderstanding when responding.=20

This is still an incomplete error message and not even near exact.
quote
OE @ 0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
/quote

Another correction would be "OE" (ohE) which is actually 0E (zeroE)
There is also more to the error message before @, and the VXD VMM06 =
should be shown as VXD VMM (06). **Note the brackets**

Let me clarify this statement/question which I asked and you responded, =
with a statement:
quote
My S&Q: The first and foremost Q that comes into play is when the =
problem first began. What was the last action performed?
Your response: Like I mentioned in my original post, when I start/boot =
Windows, not everytime.
/quote
=20
The conclusion I arrive at in this time and moment is that this has =
been an issue since the rebuild 6 mos prior to today.
You state that you self built the system back yonder and 6 mos ago a =
friend rebuilt it.

If this has been ongoing since the rebuild, you should take a serious =
look into bad RAM modules if you are positive there are none-whatsoever =
other hardware device conflicts/driver issues.



--=20

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Star" wrote in message =
...
=20
"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
Star,
quote
The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
/quote
Is not exact.
=20
** Brian, in 2 wks. I have gotten it several times since new install, =

have
checked
OE @ 0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
=20
You have also provided a bit more info in your response to Dan, =

although
more would be nice.
=20
Whenever doing a search on any error message, try what becomes =

available.
If the text explaining the problem matches ever oh so close, try the
resolution. Near to 99% of the time, anything after the first 4 digits =

will
not repeat on the next occurrence, ex: 0028:xxxxxxxx to =

0028:xxxxxxxpx. Also
many articles that mention an OS can/may still apply to another OS.
=20
** Like I mentioned, I went to Jim Elshelman's page on OE"s... I think =

it's
one of the best!!
nothing matched, so I concentrated on VMM06, nothing related to
booting/starting Windows, actually this appears to be an error =

associated
w/W-95.
=20
The first and foremost Q that comes into play is when the problem =

first
began. What was the last action performed?
=20
** Like I mentioned in my original post, when I start/boot Windows, =

not
everytime.
=20
You mention upgrading, more like rebuilding your system and I'm not =

speaking
of the OS.
=20
Is your processor faster than 2.GHz? There is an issue with NDIS and =

faster
processors.
** It's 2.GHz
How much RAM have you installed? If more than 512MB, you need to =

either
lower the RAM, set a MaxFileCache and/or MaxPhysPage or install XP.
** Yes, I know, 512 installed, new, 6 mos. old, Fat 32, didn't install =

W-XP,
not dual booting.
=20
Have you had a good peek in Device Manager to make sure there are no
conflicts?
=20
** No Brian, I would reinstall device drivers, etc... everything cool =

in
D/M.
=20
Have a read thru some of these to see if the help:
http://tinyurl.com/3vh2k
=20
No, thank-you I will. Like I explained to Dan in the post I returned =

to him.
I built the puter while taking A+ certification, and it was rebuilt, =

all
new, except HD, modem, and Iomega zip.
=20
I don't like working in the case, I'm fairly savy at partitioning,
formatting, clean install of Windows and installing devices..
=20
Thank you, Star
=20
=20
--=20
=20
Brian A.
=20
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
=20
=20
"Star" wrote in message
...
Again, I'm looling for help/clarification from MVP or *savvy* user.

The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06

I have a new install of Windows... two wks. old.
The system has not been stable. I'm backing up everyday.

Google didn't come up w/exact match.
0028 VXD VMM06, had more luck.

Windows starts up to this OE, I do ctl./alt/del and Windows continues =

to
load *only to be desktop w/selected bkgrnd color, mouse pointer that
moves......, and nothing more. I do ct/alt/del, I see only PC-cillin
running, no Explorer.

I do ctl/alt/del and restart and, Windows will load normally.

I went to Jim Elshelman's website, one of the best for Windows =

errors.
I learned about this being a W95 problem and,
I learned about setup problems in W98.

Can someone help.... RE this error and starting a W98 or W98SE puter,

what
the fix may be.

I have such instability that I'm almost ready to take the puter down,
partition, format and do another clean install of
Windows.

I'm burned out, I love W98se, I have W-XP, I've been learning the

internals
of Windows for yrs., you *must* if you want to maintain your OS. No =

pun
intended, I'm ready for a Macintosh!!

Thank you,
Star


=20

  #14  
Old January 16th 05, 08:49 AM
Brian A.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
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I'm sorry Star, if you reinstalled the OS 2 wks ago after a rebuild =
approx 6 mos. ago, I stick with my thoughts that you've had an ongoing =
issue since rebuild. Otherwise why reinstall after a mere 6 mos?

To clarify another point:
vmm (06) is not the same as vmm06 when conducting a search. The search =
results will be entirely different between the 2 separate search =
criteria.

--=20

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
  #15  
Old January 16th 05, 01:08 PM
glee
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Posts: n/a
Default

I have to agree with Brian that you should always post the *entire* error message
screen, word for word. In addition to the 0e vs. OE typo, the VMM06 typo, and the
missing middle of the message, you don't show whether it is an "exception 0E" or
"Fatal exception 0E", which can be different things.

I am not sure why you "feel confident RAM is good"...have you tested it? Brand new
RAM can be faulty, or become faulty if ESD degraded it during handling and
insertion.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Star" wrote in message ...

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
I'm sorry Star, but you're missing a few of the points here, so I will
re-iterate hopefully in a way that is easily followed. I will also veer away
from inline to avoid confusion. Please read all very carefully to avoid
confusion and misunderstanding when responding.

This is still an incomplete error message and not even near exact.
quote
OE @ 0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
/quote

Another correction would be "OE" (ohE) which is actually 0E (zeroE)
There is also more to the error message before @, and the VXD VMM06 should
be shown as VXD VMM (06). **Note the brackets**

** Ok Brian 0E, I stand corrected, 06 is 06 w or w/o brackets. As for the
text between 0E and @ it's basically unchanged, the same for all 0E's

Let me clarify this statement/question which I asked and you responded, with
a statement:
quote
My S&Q: The first and foremost Q that comes into play is when the problem
first began. What was the last action performed?
Your response: Like I mentioned in my original post, when I start/boot
Windows, not everytime.
/quote

The conclusion I arrive at in this time and moment is that this has been an
issue since the rebuild 6 mos prior to today.
You state that you self built the system back yonder and 6 mos ago a friend
rebuilt it.

If this has been ongoing since the rebuild, you should take a serious look
into bad RAM modules if you are positive there are none-whatsoever other
hardware device conflicts/driver issues.

** No, *not* since the rebuild, only the last 2 wks.
I wrote this in my orig. post.
I have a new install of Windows... two wks. old.
The system has not been stable. I'm backing up everyday.


I'm going to look at the MB, possibly leaking capacitors again, I feel
confident RAM is good. The machine has NO h/w conflicts, DxDiag tells me
all is well and the D/M tells me I have no problems, I carefully looked at
each device. I did this before I posted to the group.

Star






--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Star" wrote in message
...

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
Star,
quote
The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
/quote
Is not exact.

** Brian, in 2 wks. I have gotten it several times since new install, have
checked
OE @ 0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06

You have also provided a bit more info in your response to Dan, although
more would be nice.

Whenever doing a search on any error message, try what becomes available.
If the text explaining the problem matches ever oh so close, try the
resolution. Near to 99% of the time, anything after the first 4 digits

will
not repeat on the next occurrence, ex: 0028:xxxxxxxx to 0028:xxxxxxxpx.

Also
many articles that mention an OS can/may still apply to another OS.

** Like I mentioned, I went to Jim Elshelman's page on OE"s... I think

it's
one of the best!!
nothing matched, so I concentrated on VMM06, nothing related to
booting/starting Windows, actually this appears to be an error associated
w/W-95.

The first and foremost Q that comes into play is when the problem first
began. What was the last action performed?

** Like I mentioned in my original post, when I start/boot Windows, not
everytime.

You mention upgrading, more like rebuilding your system and I'm not

speaking
of the OS.

Is your processor faster than 2.GHz? There is an issue with NDIS and

faster
processors.
** It's 2.GHz
How much RAM have you installed? If more than 512MB, you need to either
lower the RAM, set a MaxFileCache and/or MaxPhysPage or install XP.
** Yes, I know, 512 installed, new, 6 mos. old, Fat 32, didn't install

W-XP,
not dual booting.

Have you had a good peek in Device Manager to make sure there are no
conflicts?

** No Brian, I would reinstall device drivers, etc... everything cool in
D/M.

Have a read thru some of these to see if the help:
http://tinyurl.com/3vh2k

No, thank-you I will. Like I explained to Dan in the post I returned to

him.
I built the puter while taking A+ certification, and it was rebuilt, all
new, except HD, modem, and Iomega zip.

I don't like working in the case, I'm fairly savy at partitioning,
formatting, clean install of Windows and installing devices..

Thank you, Star


--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Star" wrote in message
...
Again, I'm looling for help/clarification from MVP or *savvy* user.

The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06

I have a new install of Windows... two wks. old.
The system has not been stable. I'm backing up everyday.

Google didn't come up w/exact match.
0028 VXD VMM06, had more luck.

Windows starts up to this OE, I do ctl./alt/del and Windows continues to
load *only to be desktop w/selected bkgrnd color, mouse pointer that
moves......, and nothing more. I do ct/alt/del, I see only PC-cillin
running, no Explorer.

I do ctl/alt/del and restart and, Windows will load normally.

I went to Jim Elshelman's website, one of the best for Windows errors.
I learned about this being a W95 problem and,
I learned about setup problems in W98.

Can someone help.... RE this error and starting a W98 or W98SE puter,

what
the fix may be.

I have such instability that I'm almost ready to take the puter down,
partition, format and do another clean install of
Windows.

I'm burned out, I love W98se, I have W-XP, I've been learning the

internals
of Windows for yrs., you *must* if you want to maintain your OS. No pun
intended, I'm ready for a Macintosh!!

Thank you,
Star







  #16  
Old January 16th 05, 01:09 PM
glee
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

You may more likely have a hardware problem that formatting and reinstalling will
not fix.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Star" wrote in message ...
Ahhhh..... Glee, you have a *excellent* memory, more than 6 mos. ago. You
had a Jetway MB at your work that had leaky capacitors. I remember, "asking
you the manuf." And, I responded, "that was my board too"!!

No, I was going to put the same board, I went on the Internet and was going
to buy one. My friend talked me into buying a Asus MB. I was glad I did!!
You told me another Jetway was put in the puter at your work and it failed
almost immediately!!

It's Asus P4SGX-MX, I would be really sick.... leaky capacitors again!!

Of course, I just may need to look. I took it down to wks. ago, I couldn't
get into it period, Windows wouldn't load.
I couldn't get into safe mode, the immediate ck. on screen, appeared good,
himen ck. etc.... it went to a blank screen w/flashing cursur over & over.
I went to dos and did scanreg /restore, Windows would restore a good
registry but would not load. After days of this, and I lost data, I
partitioned 2 drives and did a clean install of Windows.

Thank you, I took A+ and I still struggle to maintain my puter, I'm really
on a bummer!! I built my P-3 system and put the Jetway MB in the case,
putting the MB in was the hardest task!!

Star

"glee" wrote in message
...
One thing to consider (though it will require you to open the case and

make a very
close inspection) is that the new mobo's capacitors may have also started
leaking/bulging. As you got a replacement Jetway mobo, it is quite

possible that
you got another board with defective capacitors, if it was an exact

replacement.
Check the mobo at the base of the capacitors, for signs of

leakage.....brown
deposits at the base of the capacitors.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Star" wrote in message

...

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
Star,
quote
The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
/quote
Is not exact.

** Brian, in 2 wks. I have gotten it several times since new install,

have
checked
OE @ 0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06

You have also provided a bit more info in your response to Dan, although
more would be nice.

Whenever doing a search on any error message, try what becomes

available.
If the text explaining the problem matches ever oh so close, try the
resolution. Near to 99% of the time, anything after the first 4 digits

will
not repeat on the next occurrence, ex: 0028:xxxxxxxx to 0028:xxxxxxxpx.

Also
many articles that mention an OS can/may still apply to another OS.

** Like I mentioned, I went to Jim Elshelman's page on OE"s... I think

it's
one of the best!!
nothing matched, so I concentrated on VMM06, nothing related to
booting/starting Windows, actually this appears to be an error

associated
w/W-95.

The first and foremost Q that comes into play is when the problem first
began. What was the last action performed?

** Like I mentioned in my original post, when I start/boot Windows, not
everytime.

You mention upgrading, more like rebuilding your system and I'm not

speaking
of the OS.

Is your processor faster than 2.GHz? There is an issue with NDIS and

faster
processors.
** It's 2.GHz
How much RAM have you installed? If more than 512MB, you need to either
lower the RAM, set a MaxFileCache and/or MaxPhysPage or install XP.
** Yes, I know, 512 installed, new, 6 mos. old, Fat 32, didn't install

W-XP,
not dual booting.

Have you had a good peek in Device Manager to make sure there are no
conflicts?

** No Brian, I would reinstall device drivers, etc... everything cool in
D/M.

Have a read thru some of these to see if the help:
http://tinyurl.com/3vh2k

No, thank-you I will. Like I explained to Dan in the post I returned to

him.
I built the puter while taking A+ certification, and it was rebuilt, all
new, except HD, modem, and Iomega zip.

I don't like working in the case, I'm fairly savy at partitioning,
formatting, clean install of Windows and installing devices..

Thank you, Star


--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
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"Star" wrote in message
...
Again, I'm looling for help/clarification from MVP or *savvy* user.

The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06

I have a new install of Windows... two wks. old.
The system has not been stable. I'm backing up everyday.

Google didn't come up w/exact match.
0028 VXD VMM06, had more luck.

Windows starts up to this OE, I do ctl./alt/del and Windows continues

to
load *only to be desktop w/selected bkgrnd color, mouse pointer that
moves......, and nothing more. I do ct/alt/del, I see only PC-cillin
running, no Explorer.

I do ctl/alt/del and restart and, Windows will load normally.

I went to Jim Elshelman's website, one of the best for Windows errors.
I learned about this being a W95 problem and,
I learned about setup problems in W98.

Can someone help.... RE this error and starting a W98 or W98SE puter,
what
the fix may be.

I have such instability that I'm almost ready to take the puter down,
partition, format and do another clean install of
Windows.

I'm burned out, I love W98se, I have W-XP, I've been learning the
internals
of Windows for yrs., you *must* if you want to maintain your OS. No

pun
intended, I'm ready for a Macintosh!!

Thank you,
Star








  #17  
Old January 16th 05, 01:12 PM
Dan
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Wow, I am shocked at your bad luck, Star. I have an ASUS motherboard that I
upgraded from my old board and I really like it. I have yet to fully
understand the complex BIOS on this motherboard but my knowledge of it is
slowly increasing.

"Star" wrote in message
...
: Ahhhh..... Glee, you have a *excellent* memory, more than 6 mos. ago. You
: had a Jetway MB at your work that had leaky capacitors. I remember,
"asking
: you the manuf." And, I responded, "that was my board too"!!
:
: No, I was going to put the same board, I went on the Internet and was going
: to buy one. My friend talked me into buying a Asus MB. I was glad I did!!
: You told me another Jetway was put in the puter at your work and it failed
: almost immediately!!
:
: It's Asus P4SGX-MX, I would be really sick.... leaky capacitors again!!
:
: Of course, I just may need to look. I took it down to wks. ago, I couldn't
: get into it period, Windows wouldn't load.
: I couldn't get into safe mode, the immediate ck. on screen, appeared good,
: himen ck. etc.... it went to a blank screen w/flashing cursur over & over.
: I went to dos and did scanreg /restore, Windows would restore a good
: registry but would not load. After days of this, and I lost data, I
: partitioned 2 drives and did a clean install of Windows.
:
: Thank you, I took A+ and I still struggle to maintain my puter, I'm really
: on a bummer!! I built my P-3 system and put the Jetway MB in the case,
: putting the MB in was the hardest task!!
:
: Star
:
: "glee" wrote in message
: ...
: One thing to consider (though it will require you to open the case and
: make a very
: close inspection) is that the new mobo's capacitors may have also started
: leaking/bulging. As you got a replacement Jetway mobo, it is quite
: possible that
: you got another board with defective capacitors, if it was an exact
: replacement.
: Check the mobo at the base of the capacitors, for signs of
: leakage.....brown
: deposits at the base of the capacitors.
: --
: Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
:
: "Star" wrote in message
: ...
:
: "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
: ...
: Star,
: quote
: The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
: /quote
: Is not exact.
:
: ** Brian, in 2 wks. I have gotten it several times since new install,
: have
: checked
: OE @ 0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
:
: You have also provided a bit more info in your response to Dan,
although
: more would be nice.
:
: Whenever doing a search on any error message, try what becomes
: available.
: If the text explaining the problem matches ever oh so close, try the
: resolution. Near to 99% of the time, anything after the first 4 digits
: will
: not repeat on the next occurrence, ex: 0028:xxxxxxxx to 0028:xxxxxxxpx.
: Also
: many articles that mention an OS can/may still apply to another OS.
:
: ** Like I mentioned, I went to Jim Elshelman's page on OE"s... I think
: it's
: one of the best!!
: nothing matched, so I concentrated on VMM06, nothing related to
: booting/starting Windows, actually this appears to be an error
: associated
: w/W-95.
:
: The first and foremost Q that comes into play is when the problem first
: began. What was the last action performed?
:
: ** Like I mentioned in my original post, when I start/boot Windows, not
: everytime.
:
: You mention upgrading, more like rebuilding your system and I'm not
: speaking
: of the OS.
:
: Is your processor faster than 2.GHz? There is an issue with NDIS and
: faster
: processors.
: ** It's 2.GHz
: How much RAM have you installed? If more than 512MB, you need to either
: lower the RAM, set a MaxFileCache and/or MaxPhysPage or install XP.
: ** Yes, I know, 512 installed, new, 6 mos. old, Fat 32, didn't install
: W-XP,
: not dual booting.
:
: Have you had a good peek in Device Manager to make sure there are no
: conflicts?
:
: ** No Brian, I would reinstall device drivers, etc... everything cool
in
: D/M.
:
: Have a read thru some of these to see if the help:
: http://tinyurl.com/3vh2k
:
: No, thank-you I will. Like I explained to Dan in the post I returned to
: him.
: I built the puter while taking A+ certification, and it was rebuilt,
all
: new, except HD, modem, and Iomega zip.
:
: I don't like working in the case, I'm fairly savy at partitioning,
: formatting, clean install of Windows and installing devices..
:
: Thank you, Star
:
:
: --
:
: Brian A.
:
: Conflicts start where information lacks.
: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
:
:
: "Star" wrote in message
: ...
: Again, I'm looling for help/clarification from MVP or *savvy* user.
:
: The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
:
: I have a new install of Windows... two wks. old.
: The system has not been stable. I'm backing up everyday.
:
: Google didn't come up w/exact match.
: 0028 VXD VMM06, had more luck.
:
: Windows starts up to this OE, I do ctl./alt/del and Windows continues
: to
: load *only to be desktop w/selected bkgrnd color, mouse pointer that
: moves......, and nothing more. I do ct/alt/del, I see only PC-cillin
: running, no Explorer.
:
: I do ctl/alt/del and restart and, Windows will load normally.
:
: I went to Jim Elshelman's website, one of the best for Windows
errors.
: I learned about this being a W95 problem and,
: I learned about setup problems in W98.
:
: Can someone help.... RE this error and starting a W98 or W98SE puter,
: what
: the fix may be.
:
: I have such instability that I'm almost ready to take the puter down,
: partition, format and do another clean install of
: Windows.
:
: I'm burned out, I love W98se, I have W-XP, I've been learning the
: internals
: of Windows for yrs., you *must* if you want to maintain your OS. No
: pun
: intended, I'm ready for a Macintosh!!
:
: Thank you,
: Star
:
:
:
:
:
:
:


  #18  
Old January 16th 05, 01:25 PM
Dan
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Very true, Glen. I have even had to deal with faulty ram before and like I
mentioned in a previous post, I usually stick to upgrading just the ram,
video card and sound card unless I have someone else that is more
knowledgeable in hardware to help me.

BTW, Star are your ram sticks all compatible and are they completely
compatible with your motherboard. Do not mix and match different types of
ram. I have found the Crucial website to be useful in helping me to buy ram
for my computer. Actually, I usually buy it from them because I have had
good experiences with Crucial in the past.

"glee" wrote in message
...
: I have to agree with Brian that you should always post the *entire* error
message
: screen, word for word. In addition to the 0e vs. OE typo, the VMM06 typo,
and the
: missing middle of the message, you don't show whether it is an "exception
0E" or
: "Fatal exception 0E", which can be different things.
:
: I am not sure why you "feel confident RAM is good"...have you tested it?
Brand new
: RAM can be faulty, or become faulty if ESD degraded it during handling and
: insertion.
: --
: Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
:
:
: "Star" wrote in message
...
:
: "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
: ...
: I'm sorry Star, but you're missing a few of the points here, so I will
: re-iterate hopefully in a way that is easily followed. I will also veer
away
: from inline to avoid confusion. Please read all very carefully to avoid
: confusion and misunderstanding when responding.
:
: This is still an incomplete error message and not even near exact.
: quote
: OE @ 0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
: /quote
:
: Another correction would be "OE" (ohE) which is actually 0E (zeroE)
: There is also more to the error message before @, and the VXD VMM06
should
: be shown as VXD VMM (06). **Note the brackets**
:
: ** Ok Brian 0E, I stand corrected, 06 is 06 w or w/o brackets. As for the
: text between 0E and @ it's basically unchanged, the same for all 0E's
:
: Let me clarify this statement/question which I asked and you responded,
with
: a statement:
: quote
: My S&Q: The first and foremost Q that comes into play is when the
problem
: first began. What was the last action performed?
: Your response: Like I mentioned in my original post, when I start/boot
: Windows, not everytime.
: /quote
:
: The conclusion I arrive at in this time and moment is that this has been
an
: issue since the rebuild 6 mos prior to today.
: You state that you self built the system back yonder and 6 mos ago a
friend
: rebuilt it.
:
: If this has been ongoing since the rebuild, you should take a serious
look
: into bad RAM modules if you are positive there are none-whatsoever other
: hardware device conflicts/driver issues.
:
: ** No, *not* since the rebuild, only the last 2 wks.
: I wrote this in my orig. post.
: I have a new install of Windows... two wks. old.
: The system has not been stable. I'm backing up everyday.
:
: I'm going to look at the MB, possibly leaking capacitors again, I feel
: confident RAM is good. The machine has NO h/w conflicts, DxDiag tells me
: all is well and the D/M tells me I have no problems, I carefully looked
at
: each device. I did this before I posted to the group.
:
: Star
:
:
:
:
:
:
: --
:
: Brian A.
:
: Conflicts start where information lacks.
: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
:
:
: "Star" wrote in message
: ...
:
: "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
: ...
: Star,
: quote
: The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
: /quote
: Is not exact.
:
: ** Brian, in 2 wks. I have gotten it several times since new install,
have
: checked
: OE @ 0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
:
: You have also provided a bit more info in your response to Dan,
although
: more would be nice.
:
: Whenever doing a search on any error message, try what becomes
available.
: If the text explaining the problem matches ever oh so close, try the
: resolution. Near to 99% of the time, anything after the first 4 digits
: will
: not repeat on the next occurrence, ex: 0028:xxxxxxxx to 0028:xxxxxxxpx.
: Also
: many articles that mention an OS can/may still apply to another OS.
:
: ** Like I mentioned, I went to Jim Elshelman's page on OE"s... I think
: it's
: one of the best!!
: nothing matched, so I concentrated on VMM06, nothing related to
: booting/starting Windows, actually this appears to be an error
associated
: w/W-95.
:
: The first and foremost Q that comes into play is when the problem first
: began. What was the last action performed?
:
: ** Like I mentioned in my original post, when I start/boot Windows, not
: everytime.
:
: You mention upgrading, more like rebuilding your system and I'm not
: speaking
: of the OS.
:
: Is your processor faster than 2.GHz? There is an issue with NDIS and
: faster
: processors.
: ** It's 2.GHz
: How much RAM have you installed? If more than 512MB, you need to either
: lower the RAM, set a MaxFileCache and/or MaxPhysPage or install XP.
: ** Yes, I know, 512 installed, new, 6 mos. old, Fat 32, didn't install
: W-XP,
: not dual booting.
:
: Have you had a good peek in Device Manager to make sure there are no
: conflicts?
:
: ** No Brian, I would reinstall device drivers, etc... everything cool
in
: D/M.
:
: Have a read thru some of these to see if the help:
: http://tinyurl.com/3vh2k
:
: No, thank-you I will. Like I explained to Dan in the post I returned to
: him.
: I built the puter while taking A+ certification, and it was rebuilt,
all
: new, except HD, modem, and Iomega zip.
:
: I don't like working in the case, I'm fairly savy at partitioning,
: formatting, clean install of Windows and installing devices..
:
: Thank you, Star
:
:
: --
:
: Brian A.
:
: Conflicts start where information lacks.
: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
:
:
: "Star" wrote in message
: ...
: Again, I'm looling for help/clarification from MVP or *savvy* user.
:
: The exact OE is..............0028:C027F8AB VXD VMM06
:
: I have a new install of Windows... two wks. old.
: The system has not been stable. I'm backing up everyday.
:
: Google didn't come up w/exact match.
: 0028 VXD VMM06, had more luck.
:
: Windows starts up to this OE, I do ctl./alt/del and Windows continues
to
: load *only to be desktop w/selected bkgrnd color, mouse pointer that
: moves......, and nothing more. I do ct/alt/del, I see only PC-cillin
: running, no Explorer.
:
: I do ctl/alt/del and restart and, Windows will load normally.
:
: I went to Jim Elshelman's website, one of the best for Windows errors.
: I learned about this being a W95 problem and,
: I learned about setup problems in W98.
:
: Can someone help.... RE this error and starting a W98 or W98SE puter,
: what
: the fix may be.
:
: I have such instability that I'm almost ready to take the puter down,
: partition, format and do another clean install of
: Windows.
:
: I'm burned out, I love W98se, I have W-XP, I've been learning the
: internals
: of Windows for yrs., you *must* if you want to maintain your OS. No
pun
: intended, I'm ready for a Macintosh!!
:
: Thank you,
: Star
:
:
:
:
:
:
:


  #19  
Old January 16th 05, 05:43 PM
Star
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Brian,

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
I'm sorry Star, if you reinstalled the OS 2 wks ago after a rebuild approx 6
mos. ago, I stick with my thoughts that you've had an ongoing issue since
rebuild. Otherwise why reinstall after a mere 6 mos?

*** Actually, no Brian, my puter had no bad symptoms and appeared fit as a
fiddle. As to why the puter crashed to the point of me having to do a clean
install of Windows...... it was s/w and the user!!!!

A few posts before this is a post Warning & Nero Burning/Ahead s/w. I
had a problem w/ InCD packet writing s/w. Bill from CO, posted and now I'm
not so embarrassed!! After, the job, you need to get the CD-RW out of the
drive, however I don't remember reading that in the manual, and of course it
is a *super* must to dismount the CD-RW correctly or that CD-RW is ruined
and has to be re-formatted.

I did a job, and didn't dismount and, I didn't totally end InCD task.
Usually I do a ctl/alt/del and end the task of InCD and remove it from my
systray. I was sloppy!! When you launch InCD it goes to your systray.

The puter locked hrs. later, my grand-daughter had been watching a DVD movie
on the puter, when the movie was over, the DVD..... Win DVD s/w wouldn't
close, I couldn't dismount my CD-RW.

That was the beginning of the *****horror******!!!! **Why Windows was
reinstalled**!!!!

I couldn't get into Windows, **but I have found out..... if you can get
in..... to safe mode, I couldn't, if you uninstall InCD, restart the
puter..... Windows again will load!!**

To clarify another point:
vmm (06) is not the same as vmm06 when conducting a search. The search
results will be entirely different between the 2 separate search criteria.

OK, Brian, I stand corrected *totally* if I ever post another 0E, I will
post *all* w/ no typos!!

Soooooo , *That's the **real** sad story!!

Anyone reading this *** pls never be sloppy w/InCD*** if you use this packet
writing technology, you could have to re-install Windows!!

Star

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


  #20  
Old January 16th 05, 09:19 PM
Dan
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Better yet it seems avoid Incd entirely. :

"Star" wrote in message
...
: Brian,
:
: "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
: ...
: I'm sorry Star, if you reinstalled the OS 2 wks ago after a rebuild approx
6
: mos. ago, I stick with my thoughts that you've had an ongoing issue since
: rebuild. Otherwise why reinstall after a mere 6 mos?
:
: *** Actually, no Brian, my puter had no bad symptoms and appeared fit as a
: fiddle. As to why the puter crashed to the point of me having to do a clean
: install of Windows...... it was s/w and the user!!!!
:
: A few posts before this is a post Warning & Nero Burning/Ahead s/w. I
: had a problem w/ InCD packet writing s/w. Bill from CO, posted and now I'm
: not so embarrassed!! After, the job, you need to get the CD-RW out of the
: drive, however I don't remember reading that in the manual, and of course
it
: is a *super* must to dismount the CD-RW correctly or that CD-RW is ruined
: and has to be re-formatted.
:
: I did a job, and didn't dismount and, I didn't totally end InCD task.
: Usually I do a ctl/alt/del and end the task of InCD and remove it from my
: systray. I was sloppy!! When you launch InCD it goes to your systray.
:
: The puter locked hrs. later, my grand-daughter had been watching a DVD
movie
: on the puter, when the movie was over, the DVD..... Win DVD s/w wouldn't
: close, I couldn't dismount my CD-RW.
:
: That was the beginning of the *****horror******!!!! **Why Windows was
: reinstalled**!!!!
:
: I couldn't get into Windows, **but I have found out..... if you can get
: in..... to safe mode, I couldn't, if you uninstall InCD, restart the
: puter..... Windows again will load!!**
:
: To clarify another point:
: vmm (06) is not the same as vmm06 when conducting a search. The search
: results will be entirely different between the 2 separate search criteria.
:
: OK, Brian, I stand corrected *totally* if I ever post another 0E, I will
: post *all* w/ no typos!!
:
: Soooooo , *That's the **real** sad story!!
:
: Anyone reading this *** pls never be sloppy w/InCD*** if you use this
packet
: writing technology, you could have to re-install Windows!!
:
: Star
:
: --
:
: Brian A.
:
: Conflicts start where information lacks.
: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
:
:


 




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