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Old June 1st 04, 10:45 PM
DotNYC
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Default DHCP problem on Windows 98 SE

Hello Wizards,

I have been trying real hard to help a friend of mine in setting his
home wireless network. I did pretty well so far but I can't add a
Windows 98 SE desktop to join the network. Here is the setting:

Cable modem;
Microsoft MN-700 wireless router;
Desktop 1: Windows XP w/ Microsoft MN-510 wireless adapter (works
great);
Toshiba Laptop: Windows XP w/ Microsoft PCMCIA wireless adapter (works
great);
Desktop 2: Windows 98 SE w/ Microsoft MN-710 wireless adapter (doesn't
connect to Internet and network).

At first we used the MN-510 adapter for the Win 98 computer as well.
The guy from Microsoft recommended replacing the adapter - So we did
(Microsoft paid).

When it still didn't work, the other Microsoft guy said that the
computer "can't get an IP address from the DHCP". I know a bit about
computers but I couldn't figure out how to fix the DHCP.

The wireless adapter recognized the router and has an excellent signal
with it. The computer just can't get to see the network and/or the
Internet. Running ipcfg returns 0.0.0.0 and running ping times out.

I tried to release and renew all addresses - didn't help.

What do you suggest? I am a big fan of searching for answers and
spending some time in front of the problem but this one requires
better capabilities than I can offer. Any help is greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Dotan.
  #2  
Old June 2nd 04, 02:43 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
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Default DHCP problem on Windows 98 SE

In article ,
(DotNYC) wrote:
Hello Wizards,

I have been trying real hard to help a friend of mine in setting his
home wireless network. I did pretty well so far but I can't add a
Windows 98 SE desktop to join the network. Here is the setting:

Cable modem;
Microsoft MN-700 wireless router;
Desktop 1: Windows XP w/ Microsoft MN-510 wireless adapter (works
great);
Toshiba Laptop: Windows XP w/ Microsoft PCMCIA wireless adapter (works
great);
Desktop 2: Windows 98 SE w/ Microsoft MN-710 wireless adapter (doesn't
connect to Internet and network).

At first we used the MN-510 adapter for the Win 98 computer as well.
The guy from Microsoft recommended replacing the adapter - So we did
(Microsoft paid).

When it still didn't work, the other Microsoft guy said that the
computer "can't get an IP address from the DHCP". I know a bit about
computers but I couldn't figure out how to fix the DHCP.

The wireless adapter recognized the router and has an excellent signal
with it. The computer just can't get to see the network and/or the
Internet. Running ipcfg returns 0.0.0.0 and running ping times out.

I tried to release and renew all addresses - didn't help.

What do you suggest? I am a big fan of searching for answers and
spending some time in front of the problem but this one requires
better capabilities than I can offer. Any help is greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Dotan.


Check the wireless settings on the router and make sure that:

1. You've specified the right encryption type and encryption key on
the Win 98 computer. It's usually easier to set up a wireless network
with encryption disabled and then enable it after everything is
working.

2. If MAC address filtering is enabled, the MN-710 needs to be in the
allowed list.

If there's a firewall program on the Win 98 computer, disable it and
try connecting to the router again.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
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Old June 2nd 04, 04:22 PM
DotNYC
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Default DHCP problem on Windows 98 SE

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message . ..
In article ,
(DotNYC) wrote:
Hello Wizards,

I have been trying real hard to help a friend of mine in setting his
home wireless network. I did pretty well so far but I can't add a
Windows 98 SE desktop to join the network. Here is the setting:

Cable modem;
Microsoft MN-700 wireless router;
Desktop 1: Windows XP w/ Microsoft MN-510 wireless adapter (works
great);
Toshiba Laptop: Windows XP w/ Microsoft PCMCIA wireless adapter (works
great);
Desktop 2: Windows 98 SE w/ Microsoft MN-710 wireless adapter (doesn't
connect to Internet and network).

At first we used the MN-510 adapter for the Win 98 computer as well.
The guy from Microsoft recommended replacing the adapter - So we did
(Microsoft paid).

When it still didn't work, the other Microsoft guy said that the
computer "can't get an IP address from the DHCP". I know a bit about
computers but I couldn't figure out how to fix the DHCP.

The wireless adapter recognized the router and has an excellent signal
with it. The computer just can't get to see the network and/or the
Internet. Running ipcfg returns 0.0.0.0 and running ping times out.

I tried to release and renew all addresses - didn't help.

What do you suggest? I am a big fan of searching for answers and
spending some time in front of the problem but this one requires
better capabilities than I can offer. Any help is greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Dotan.


Check the wireless settings on the router and make sure that:

1. You've specified the right encryption type and encryption key on
the Win 98 computer. It's usually easier to set up a wireless network
with encryption disabled and then enable it after everything is
working.

2. If MAC address filtering is enabled, the MN-710 needs to be in the
allowed list.

If there's a firewall program on the Win 98 computer, disable it and
try connecting to the router again.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm



Thank you Steve - I will try it.
The wireless adapter's status window shows excellent signal strength
to my router (showing my SSID). Doesn't it mean that it had the right
WEP key? I tried connecting without a WEP key as well - didn't help
to get to the Internet.
Just to make sure, does my wireless router serve as the DHCP server?
If so, I guess I won't get an IP address until I manage to reach the
router, right?

Thanks again,
Dotan.
  #4  
Old June 2nd 04, 04:33 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
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Posts: n/a
Default DHCP problem on Windows 98 SE

In article ,
(DotNYC) wrote:
I have been trying real hard to help a friend of mine in setting his
home wireless network. I did pretty well so far but I can't add a
Windows 98 SE desktop to join the network. Here is the setting:

Cable modem;
Microsoft MN-700 wireless router;
Desktop 1: Windows XP w/ Microsoft MN-510 wireless adapter (works
great);
Toshiba Laptop: Windows XP w/ Microsoft PCMCIA wireless adapter (works
great);
Desktop 2: Windows 98 SE w/ Microsoft MN-710 wireless adapter (doesn't
connect to Internet and network).

At first we used the MN-510 adapter for the Win 98 computer as well.
The guy from Microsoft recommended replacing the adapter - So we did
(Microsoft paid).

When it still didn't work, the other Microsoft guy said that the
computer "can't get an IP address from the DHCP". I know a bit about
computers but I couldn't figure out how to fix the DHCP.

The wireless adapter recognized the router and has an excellent signal
with it. The computer just can't get to see the network and/or the
Internet. Running ipcfg returns 0.0.0.0 and running ping times out.

I tried to release and renew all addresses - didn't help.


Check the wireless settings on the router and make sure that:

1. You've specified the right encryption type and encryption key on
the Win 98 computer. It's usually easier to set up a wireless network
with encryption disabled and then enable it after everything is
working.

2. If MAC address filtering is enabled, the MN-710 needs to be in the
allowed list.

If there's a firewall program on the Win 98 computer, disable it and
try connecting to the router again.


Thank you Steve - I will try it.
The wireless adapter's status window shows excellent signal strength
to my router (showing my SSID). Doesn't it mean that it had the right
WEP key? I tried connecting without a WEP key as well - didn't help
to get to the Internet.
Just to make sure, does my wireless router serve as the DHCP server?
If so, I guess I won't get an IP address until I manage to reach the
router, right?

Thanks again,
Dotan.


You're welcome, Dotan. It's possible for a wireless adapter to
associate with an access point and show excellent signal strength even
with the wrong WEP key. That's why I recommend turning encryption off
while setting up the wireless network.

Unless you've explicitly changed their settings, the router should act
as a DHCP server and the wireless adapter won't get an IP address
until it reaches the router.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
 




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