Is It Time To Stop Using Windows XP?

The Old Delta system
Unable to fine Info on it But the am looking!

Here all to days system!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_file_systems

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , dadiOH
writes:
MotoFox wrote:
Well, you spoke for MotoFox. That's how I have it set up.

The power connector on my 5.25 is the regular four-pin Molex plug,
like you'd probably find on your hard drive or CD drive, and the data
cable is an edge-connector type (look at the row of gold contacts in
the upper right-hand corner of the 5.25" disk drive's circuit board
shown in this photograph:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Floppy_Disk_Dr
ives_8_5_3.jpg/800px-Floppy_Disk_Drives_8_5_3.jpg
). It's IMPOSSIBLE to connect one of those things backwards! I wish
they'd used the same interface for 3.5" drives, too......

Thanks to both you and JP for the info. Got a ton of old 5.25 floppies
that
I can no longer read on my TRS-80s (I think the heads are out of
adjustment)
and someday I'd like to reclaim what they contain.

Ah. There may be more to it than just connecting the drive correctly. MY
memory is rather dim, but I _think_ the old trusty (or trashy) 80 was
_not_ an "IBM compatible" as they used to be called, and thus may well use
a different format (number of sectors per track, or at least directory
structure) than/to/from PCs.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

... "Peter and out." ... "Kevin and out." (Link episode)

That, and the recording on the disks might physically be incompatible. Some
diskettes (Apple II and Commodore disks come immediately to my mind, but I think
there were probably others) use a modulation system called "group code recording
(GCR) whilst PC floppy drives tend to use modified frequency modulation (MFM). I
couldn't begin to tell you a thing about their characteristics, all I really
*do* know is disks recorded on a GCR-based drive won't work in an MFM-based
drive and vice versa. I have never worked with a Trash-80 and don't know what
sort of modulation format the disk drives use. (My gut instinct says it's GCR,
but it's also been known to be wrong from time to time.)

That's one of several reasons why if you put, say, an Apple IIE disk into your
PC and try to read it up, the PC will think it blank and tell you to format it.

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , dadiOH
writes:
MotoFox wrote:
Well, you spoke for MotoFox. That's how I have it set up.

The power connector on my 5.25 is the regular four-pin Molex plug,
like you'd probably find on your hard drive or CD drive, and the
data cable is an edge-connector type (look at the row of gold
contacts in the upper right-hand corner of the 5.25" disk drive's
circuit board shown in this photograph:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Floppy_Disk_Dr
ives_8_5_3.jpg/800px-Floppy_Disk_Drives_8_5_3.jpg
). It's IMPOSSIBLE to connect one of those things backwards! I wish
they'd used the same interface for 3.5" drives, too......

Thanks to both you and JP for the info. Got a ton of old 5.25
floppies that I can no longer read on my TRS-80s (I think the heads
are out of adjustment) and someday I'd like to reclaim what they
contain.
Ah. There may be more to it than just connecting the drive correctly.
MY memory is rather dim, but I _think_ the old trusty (or trashy) 80
was _not_ an "IBM compatible" as they used to be called, and thus may
well use a different format (number of sectors per track, or at least
directory structure) than/to/from PCs.

I am sure they are not IBM compatible as IBM wasn't around then (in the mini
computer field). The floppies are RX50, double sided.

I have a TRS-80 emlulator, no idea if it can read or not, will find out
someday. If not, there are programs that will.
http://users.bart.nl/users/pb0aia/vax/rx50.html

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 About

http://support.radioshack.com/setup.htm The Old OP Sysm. from A to Z

http://support.radioshack.com/soft_tandy.htm Drives for Hard Wares like
CD, and move!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandy_Corporation About


"dadiOH" wrote in message
...
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , dadiOH
writes:
MotoFox wrote:
Well, you spoke for MotoFox. That's how I have it set up.

The power connector on my 5.25 is the regular four-pin Molex plug,
like you'd probably find on your hard drive or CD drive, and the
data cable is an edge-connector type (look at the row of gold
contacts in the upper right-hand corner of the 5.25" disk drive's
circuit board shown in this photograph:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Floppy_Disk_Dr
ives_8_5_3.jpg/800px-Floppy_Disk_Drives_8_5_3.jpg
). It's IMPOSSIBLE to connect one of those things backwards! I wish
they'd used the same interface for 3.5" drives, too......

Thanks to both you and JP for the info. Got a ton of old 5.25
floppies that I can no longer read on my TRS-80s (I think the heads
are out of adjustment) and someday I'd like to reclaim what they
contain.
Ah. There may be more to it than just connecting the drive correctly.
MY memory is rather dim, but I _think_ the old trusty (or trashy) 80
was _not_ an "IBM compatible" as they used to be called, and thus may
well use a different format (number of sectors per track, or at least
directory structure) than/to/from PCs.

I am sure they are not IBM compatible as IBM wasn't around then (in the
mini computer field). The floppies are RX50, double sided.

I have a TRS-80 emlulator, no idea if it can read or not, will find out
someday. If not, there are programs that will.
http://users.bart.nl/users/pb0aia/vax/rx50.html

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

Okay, what's with this "MyNews" guy? Is s/he a spambot or something?

*plonk*

--
MotoFox
Former superstar of the Muzak Forums, 2003-2009
Do not staple, fold, spindle or mutilate; keep away from sources of magnetism.
If ingested, do not induce vomiting.

Yes, it was.

I guess that's what I get for having been inactive on Usenet for too many
years.........

--
MotoFox
Former superstar of the Muzak Forums, 2003-2009
Do not staple, fold, spindle or mutilate; keep away from sources of magnetism.
If ingested, do not induce vomiting.

Is that a rhetorical question?

MotoFox wrote:
Okay, what's with this "MyNews" guy? Is s/he a spambot or something?

*plonk*

--
MotoFox
Former superstar of the Muzak Forums, 2003-2009
Do not staple, fold, spindle or mutilate; keep away from sources of
magnetism.
If ingested, do not induce vomiting.

MyNews is a New Free/Pay NS I working on like News.aioe.org!

as for the free NG site it be the same as Aioe on how manly post / or how
big the Message you send in a 24 hour day
As for the pay site it be the same as
http://www.easynews.com/partners/?a_...a_bid=414f5171
but working on how much!


MotoFox in the Head of your post

this is 98Guy why you ask?
Coming January 2011
guy? Is s/he a spambot or something?
Now do tell!


"MotoFox" wrote in message
...
Okay, what's with this "MyNews" guy? Is s/he a spambot or something?

*plonk*

--
MotoFox
Former superstar of the Muzak Forums, 2003-2009
Do not staple, fold, spindle or mutilate; keep away from sources of
magnetism.
If ingested, do not induce vomiting.

In message , MotoFox
writes:
Okay, what's with this "MyNews" guy? Is s/he a spambot or something?

*plonk*

I suspect s/he is someone for whom English is far from his/her first
language. Not sure what is - the plethora of exclamation marks suggests
German, but the strange grammar suggests otherwise.

I suppose s/he _could_ be something automated, but if so, it only
posting in this newsgroup - and not that much of that - seems very
restrained.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A language is a dialect that has an army and a navy. -Max Weinreich, linguist
and author (1894-1969)