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New 250 GB hard drive won't let me install Win ME
I purchased a new 250 GB WD hard drive to put in a "new" computer, so I have
no OS installed. I have a Gigabyte MB (7s748) that I believe has ATA 100 onboard and the cpu is an Athlon XP 2600+. The BIOS reads the drive as LBA 250 GB, ATA 100. I am unable to install Win ME (off CD) from DOS using a Win ME boot disk after getting the hard drive partitioned and formatted. First I tried using WD's Lifeguard utilities. I set an 8 GB primary and the rest of the partitions at 30 GB (all FAT 32). When I tried to install Win ME, it went through the getting ready bar (got to 100%) and then gave me the Message SU 0013 error and failed. I tried other combinations but got the same result every time. A Microsoft's ME read me said it could be the result of using third party software, so I wiped everything and tried FDISK and FORMAT. I again tried several combinations. Same result, only these times no message came up, setup just stopped (at the same place). In all cases FDISK has apparently seen all the partitions, primary (says it is active), secondary and logical drives (although it says the primary is, for example, 8 GB it then says the total is 24 GB; while it also tells me the logical are 30 GB each) and scan disk says everything is OK just before going into set up. What is going on? I have the upgrade to XP, but that won't work in DOS, so I have to get ME up and running. Please help me out with some suggestions (discovered solutions would be even better), I am at my wit's end. |
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You do not need to install ME prior to installing XP.
The XP CDROM is bootable and it also has all the necessary utilities to partition and format a drive. In order to deal with a 250GB harddrive you will need winXP with SP1 or later. If your winXP upgrade disk has SP1 included then just go ahead. If not then prepare a partition of 120G or less (partition and format during install). Leave the remaining space unused at present. Install XP - Install the latest Service pack (SP2) and then use disk manager in XP to partition and format the reminder of the drive. Here is an MS article http://support.microsoft.com/default...22120121120120 -- Jon Hildrum DTS MVP www.hildrum.com "Gary" wrote in message ... I purchased a new 250 GB WD hard drive to put in a "new" computer, so I have no OS installed. I have a Gigabyte MB (7s748) that I believe has ATA 100 onboard and the cpu is an Athlon XP 2600+. The BIOS reads the drive as LBA 250 GB, ATA 100. I am unable to install Win ME (off CD) from DOS using a Win ME boot disk after getting the hard drive partitioned and formatted. First I tried using WD's Lifeguard utilities. I set an 8 GB primary and the rest of the partitions at 30 GB (all FAT 32). When I tried to install Win ME, it went through the getting ready bar (got to 100%) and then gave me the Message SU 0013 error and failed. I tried other combinations but got the same result every time. A Microsoft's ME read me said it could be the result of using third party software, so I wiped everything and tried FDISK and FORMAT. I again tried several combinations. Same result, only these times no message came up, setup just stopped (at the same place). In all cases FDISK has apparently seen all the partitions, primary (says it is active), secondary and logical drives (although it says the primary is, for example, 8 GB it then says the total is 24 GB; while it also tells me the logical are 30 GB each) and scan disk says everything is OK just before going into set up. What is going on? I have the upgrade to XP, but that won't work in DOS, so I have to get ME up and running. Please help me out with some suggestions (discovered solutions would be even better), I am at my wit's end. |
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Thanks for responding guys. Here is an update. My XP CD is not bootable or
just won't boot -- it's pretty old (got XP years ago, thought I'd wait for a better computer and that didn't happen until now). So, I tried the six set up disks. That failed on disk 3 (couldn't load setupdd.sys code 7). I tried WD's Lifeguard program again (to no avail), but I did find something at their site that said their software would follow a procedure (after formatting) to put my Win ME start up disk contents onto the hard drive (which it didn't do of course). So, why does it want to do that and is that something I should try? If yes, how? Also, tried to leave part of the drive untouched and just go with a primary partition, and ME startup just wouldn't go for that. Also, why is the total space read by FDISK so far off while the logical drives are all correct when I try the old fashioned way? Oh, I also tried to go into the XP i386 folder to run winnt and start set up that way but I was told it was an invalid directory. For that matter so was docs, all were but valueadded which it opened up fine. Still in need of major help here. "Jon_Hildrum" wrote: You do not need to install ME prior to installing XP. The XP CDROM is bootable and it also has all the necessary utilities to partition and format a drive. In order to deal with a 250GB harddrive you will need winXP with SP1 or later. If your winXP upgrade disk has SP1 included then just go ahead. If not then prepare a partition of 120G or less (partition and format during install). Leave the remaining space unused at present. Install XP - Install the latest Service pack (SP2) and then use disk manager in XP to partition and format the reminder of the drive. Here is an MS article http://support.microsoft.com/default...22120121120120 -- Jon Hildrum DTS MVP www.hildrum.com "Gary" wrote in message ... I purchased a new 250 GB WD hard drive to put in a "new" computer, so I have no OS installed. I have a Gigabyte MB (7s748) that I believe has ATA 100 onboard and the cpu is an Athlon XP 2600+. The BIOS reads the drive as LBA 250 GB, ATA 100. I am unable to install Win ME (off CD) from DOS using a Win ME boot disk after getting the hard drive partitioned and formatted. First I tried using WD's Lifeguard utilities. I set an 8 GB primary and the rest of the partitions at 30 GB (all FAT 32). When I tried to install Win ME, it went through the getting ready bar (got to 100%) and then gave me the Message SU 0013 error and failed. I tried other combinations but got the same result every time. A Microsoft's ME read me said it could be the result of using third party software, so I wiped everything and tried FDISK and FORMAT. I again tried several combinations. Same result, only these times no message came up, setup just stopped (at the same place). In all cases FDISK has apparently seen all the partitions, primary (says it is active), secondary and logical drives (although it says the primary is, for example, 8 GB it then says the total is 24 GB; while it also tells me the logical are 30 GB each) and scan disk says everything is OK just before going into set up. What is going on? I have the upgrade to XP, but that won't work in DOS, so I have to get ME up and running. Please help me out with some suggestions (discovered solutions would be even better), I am at my wit's end. |
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Clean the CD.
Gary wrote: Thanks for responding guys. Here is an update. My XP CD is not bootable or just won't boot -- it's pretty old (got XP years ago, thought I'd wait for a better computer and that didn't happen until now). So, I tried the six set up disks. That failed on disk 3 (couldn't load setupdd.sys code 7). I tried WD's Lifeguard program again (to no avail), but I did find something at their site that said their software would follow a procedure (after formatting) to put my Win ME start up disk contents onto the hard drive (which it didn't do of course). So, why does it want to do that and is that something I should try? If yes, how? Also, tried to leave part of the drive untouched and just go with a primary partition, and ME startup just wouldn't go for that. Also, why is the total space read by FDISK so far off while the logical drives are all correct when I try the old fashioned way? Oh, I also tried to go into the XP i386 folder to run winnt and start set up that way but I was told it was an invalid directory. For that matter so was docs, all were but valueadded which it opened up fine. Still in need of major help here. "Jon_Hildrum" wrote: You do not need to install ME prior to installing XP. The XP CDROM is bootable and it also has all the necessary utilities to partition and format a drive. In order to deal with a 250GB harddrive you will need winXP with SP1 or later. If your winXP upgrade disk has SP1 included then just go ahead. If not then prepare a partition of 120G or less (partition and format during install). Leave the remaining space unused at present. Install XP - Install the latest Service pack (SP2) and then use disk manager in XP to partition and format the reminder of the drive. Here is an MS article http://support.microsoft.com/default...22120121120120 -- Jon Hildrum DTS MVP www.hildrum.com "Gary" wrote in message ... I purchased a new 250 GB WD hard drive to put in a "new" computer, so I have no OS installed. I have a Gigabyte MB (7s748) that I believe has ATA 100 onboard and the cpu is an Athlon XP 2600+. The BIOS reads the drive as LBA 250 GB, ATA 100. I am unable to install Win ME (off CD) from DOS using a Win ME boot disk after getting the hard drive partitioned and formatted. First I tried using WD's Lifeguard utilities. I set an 8 GB primary and the rest of the partitions at 30 GB (all FAT 32). When I tried to install Win ME, it went through the getting ready bar (got to 100%) and then gave me the Message SU 0013 error and failed. I tried other combinations but got the same result every time. A Microsoft's ME read me said it could be the result of using third party software, so I wiped everything and tried FDISK and FORMAT. I again tried several combinations. Same result, only these times no message came up, setup just stopped (at the same place). In all cases FDISK has apparently seen all the partitions, primary (says it is active), secondary and logical drives (although it says the primary is, for example, 8 GB it then says the total is 24 GB; while it also tells me the logical are 30 GB each) and scan disk says everything is OK just before going into set up. What is going on? I have the upgrade to XP, but that won't work in DOS, so I have to get ME up and running. Please help me out with some suggestions (discovered solutions would be even better), I am at my wit's end. |
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1) Clean the XP CD, all XP CDs are bootable. Check also that you have
your PC set in the bios to boot from the CD before the hard drive. 2) Remember also that if installing from the original XP media rather than more recent media with either SP1 or SP2 integrated you will not be able to access more than 127GB of your hard drive until you install SP1. Note also that by default XP (and XP SP1) start with the firewall enabled so don't connect to the internet until you have either installed or enabled a firewall or are behind a NATed router. Further XP will be by default set to automatically reboot on error something you may well feel like changing. -- Mike Maltby Gary wrote: Thanks for responding guys. Here is an update. My XP CD is not bootable or just won't boot -- it's pretty old (got XP years ago, thought I'd wait for a better computer and that didn't happen until now). So, I tried the six set up disks. That failed on disk 3 (couldn't load setupdd.sys code 7). I tried WD's Lifeguard program again (to no avail), but I did find something at their site that said their software would follow a procedure (after formatting) to put my Win ME start up disk contents onto the hard drive (which it didn't do of course). So, why does it want to do that and is that something I should try? If yes, how? Also, tried to leave part of the drive untouched and just go with a primary partition, and ME startup just wouldn't go for that. Also, why is the total space read by FDISK so far off while the logical drives are all correct when I try the old fashioned way? Oh, I also tried to go into the XP i386 folder to run winnt and start set up that way but I was told it was an invalid directory. For that matter so was docs, all were but valueadded which it opened up fine. Still in need of major help here. |
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Mike - slight, but VERY important typo there.....
Note also that by default XP (and XP SP1) start with the firewall **DISABLED** -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mike M" wrote in message ... 1) Clean the XP CD, all XP CDs are bootable. Check also that you have your PC set in the bios to boot from the CD before the hard drive. 2) Remember also that if installing from the original XP media rather than more recent media with either SP1 or SP2 integrated you will not be able to access more than 127GB of your hard drive until you install SP1. Note also that by default XP (and XP SP1) start with the firewall enabled so don't connect to the internet until you have either installed or enabled a firewall or are behind a NATed router. Further XP will be by default set to automatically reboot on error something you may well feel like changing. -- Mike Maltby Gary wrote: Thanks for responding guys. Here is an update. My XP CD is not bootable or just won't boot -- it's pretty old (got XP years ago, thought I'd wait for a better computer and that didn't happen until now). So, I tried the six set up disks. That failed on disk 3 (couldn't load setupdd.sys code 7). I tried WD's Lifeguard program again (to no avail), but I did find something at their site that said their software would follow a procedure (after formatting) to put my Win ME start up disk contents onto the hard drive (which it didn't do of course). So, why does it want to do that and is that something I should try? If yes, how? Also, tried to leave part of the drive untouched and just go with a primary partition, and ME startup just wouldn't go for that. Also, why is the total space read by FDISK so far off while the logical drives are all correct when I try the old fashioned way? Oh, I also tried to go into the XP i386 folder to run winnt and start set up that way but I was told it was an invalid directory. For that matter so was docs, all were but valueadded which it opened up fine. Still in need of major help here. |
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Thanks Noel,
Hopefully the OP would have realised that from the rest of the sentence where I recommended that they do not connect to the net until a firewall is either installed or enabled but nevertheless all the better for your pointing out the typo. Thanks again, -- Mike Noel Paton wrote: Mike - slight, but VERY important typo there..... Note also that by default XP (and XP SP1) start with the firewall **DISABLED** |
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