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  #21  
Old October 26th 06, 12:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
J. P. Gilliver
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Default Firewall/Antivirus

"glee" wrote in message
...
Software firewall, such as it is (we'll let J.P. and Guy fight that out):


(Name's John BTW!)

Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5:
http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...nal%20Firewall
http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...keriopf215.zip


Yes, I think that's the last one that'll work on '98; not sure if last free
one. It is also much lighter on resources than the current one - even the
now owners of what was Kerio (Sunbelt software, IIRR) concede that.
(Excellent resource, the lastfreeversion site; long may he continue!)

For interest, my blind friends use that Kerio, and find it easy enough to
use (under XP now, though I think they did use it under 98 too).

I use Avast Free Edition for A-V on Win98SE, but its performance hit
varies depending on the speed and age of the system. An older version
won't help because A-V apps need their engines updated to continue getting
working signature updates.
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html


Agreed. I've seen AVG working on both XP and 98, and it seems to work well -
in particular, it seems to look after updating itself very well (engine and
data files). Can't speak for it's resource hoggery or otherwise though;
haven't noticed any hit, but then it's always been not-too-slow machines
I've seen it on. (Doesn't seem to slow my 3xx MHz laptop, though.)
[]
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

[]
I keep thinking of Ace Ventura, when I see that; I haven't seen the film
though, so it may be inappropriate!


  #22  
Old November 21st 06, 08:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Don Phillipson
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Posts: 524
Default Firewall/Antivirus

"Jonny" wrote in message
...

Not a country bumpkin here. Have done the cable and router thing in the

big
city. Now in rural setting. No cable. Telco modem am stuck with. How

do
I use a router here?


Modern routers are all wired for Ethernet so
are easily connected (without a soldering iron)
only into Ethernet systems. Mine is simply
between the wireless modem and the PC's
Ethernet socket. (No cable here.) Wireless
Internet works well (3 miles from the cell phone tower.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


  #23  
Old November 21st 06, 08:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Don Phillipson
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Posts: 524
Default Firewall/Antivirus

"Jonny" wrote in message
...

Not a country bumpkin here. Have done the cable and router thing in the

big
city. Now in rural setting. No cable. Telco modem am stuck with. How

do
I use a router here?


Modern routers are all wired for Ethernet so
are easily connected (without a soldering iron)
only into Ethernet systems. Mine is simply
between the wireless modem and the PC's
Ethernet socket. (No cable here.) Wireless
Internet works well (3 miles from the cell phone tower.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


  #24  
Old December 4th 06, 08:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Jeff Richards
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Default Firewall/Antivirus

You can still get a dial-up router, but they aren't cheap. It's probably
easier to find an old PC and install it as the connection point with router
software.

A router is much less important for a dial-up connection than for broadband,
as a firewall is usually adequate.

See, for instance:
http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.co...le.php/3482466
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Jonny" wrote in message
...
"J. P. Gilliver" wrote in message
...
"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
"El.Plates" wrote:

What would be the best free combination of the above for W98
that is still freely available and is least demanding on
system resources. TIA


I don't know about either best or lowest on resources, but AVG is a very
widely-used free antivirus tool, and seems very well-behaved. For the
firewall, ZoneAlarm is the commonest, and Kerio as good. (Note - the
latest version of one or both of these may not work under '98. However,
unlike antivirus software, this is less of a problem - though in time
could still be one - for firewalls.)

Firewalls are generally regarded as useless by experts (contrary to
what many stupid-ass tech journalists say).


How does it go - a spurt is a drip under pressure, so an ex-spurt is a
former drip under pressure ...

What every broad-band connected home computer should have is a
"NAT-router" which costs around $50 and performs essentially like an

[]
What everyone who dares to ask about firewalls should know is that 98guy
will pop up with the above reflex response (that's "knee-jerk" for those
who've forgotten that the word "reflex" exists). Note that he never
explains what NAT stands for, though he repeats it multiple times.

(Oh, and he's almost certainly right - a hardware firewall, whether it's
in a router [which it usually is] or something else, is most of the time
better than a software one, in that it is much harder to circumvent. I
just get tired of the stuck record/reflex action. I'd not agree 100% with
his assertion that software ones are completely useless, though,
especially on the outgoing side - OK, they _can_ be disabled.)


Hello,
Not a country bumpkin here. Have done the cable and router thing in the
big city. Now in rural setting. No cable. Telco modem am stuck with.
How do I use a router here?

I stopped using ZA Pro because some its assets only work in XP. Used 98SE
for a year or 2 for internet. Switched to XP, using ZA Pro again. Now, I
find out ZA Pro won't even install in 98SE.

NAT:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=de...s=&safe=images
--
Jonny



  #25  
Old December 4th 06, 08:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Jeff Richards
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,526
Default Firewall/Antivirus

You can still get a dial-up router, but they aren't cheap. It's probably
easier to find an old PC and install it as the connection point with router
software.

A router is much less important for a dial-up connection than for broadband,
as a firewall is usually adequate.

See, for instance:
http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.co...le.php/3482466
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Jonny" wrote in message
...
"J. P. Gilliver" wrote in message
...
"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
"El.Plates" wrote:

What would be the best free combination of the above for W98
that is still freely available and is least demanding on
system resources. TIA


I don't know about either best or lowest on resources, but AVG is a very
widely-used free antivirus tool, and seems very well-behaved. For the
firewall, ZoneAlarm is the commonest, and Kerio as good. (Note - the
latest version of one or both of these may not work under '98. However,
unlike antivirus software, this is less of a problem - though in time
could still be one - for firewalls.)

Firewalls are generally regarded as useless by experts (contrary to
what many stupid-ass tech journalists say).


How does it go - a spurt is a drip under pressure, so an ex-spurt is a
former drip under pressure ...

What every broad-band connected home computer should have is a
"NAT-router" which costs around $50 and performs essentially like an

[]
What everyone who dares to ask about firewalls should know is that 98guy
will pop up with the above reflex response (that's "knee-jerk" for those
who've forgotten that the word "reflex" exists). Note that he never
explains what NAT stands for, though he repeats it multiple times.

(Oh, and he's almost certainly right - a hardware firewall, whether it's
in a router [which it usually is] or something else, is most of the time
better than a software one, in that it is much harder to circumvent. I
just get tired of the stuck record/reflex action. I'd not agree 100% with
his assertion that software ones are completely useless, though,
especially on the outgoing side - OK, they _can_ be disabled.)


Hello,
Not a country bumpkin here. Have done the cable and router thing in the
big city. Now in rural setting. No cable. Telco modem am stuck with.
How do I use a router here?

I stopped using ZA Pro because some its assets only work in XP. Used 98SE
for a year or 2 for internet. Switched to XP, using ZA Pro again. Now, I
find out ZA Pro won't even install in 98SE.

NAT:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=de...s=&safe=images
--
Jonny



  #26  
Old December 5th 06, 06:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Steve Winograd [MVP]
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Posts: 196
Default Firewall/Antivirus

In article , "Jeff Richards"
wrote:
You can still get a dial-up router, but they aren't cheap. It's probably
easier to find an old PC and install it as the connection point with router
software.

A router is much less important for a dial-up connection than for broadband,
as a firewall is usually adequate.

See, for instance:
http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.co...le.php/3482466


That's a really interesting device, Jeff!

Here's a dial-up NAT router that I use. It has a built-in 2-port
Ethernet switch for wired connections:

Actiontec Dual PC Modem
http://www.actiontec.com/products/br...odem/index.php

It's available for around US$60 from these stores:

http://shopping.netledger.com/s.nl/c...c=2&category=5
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...e-20/ref=nosim
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...&dcaid= 15889
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
  #27  
Old December 5th 06, 06:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Steve Winograd [MVP]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 196
Default Firewall/Antivirus

In article , "Jeff Richards"
wrote:
You can still get a dial-up router, but they aren't cheap. It's probably
easier to find an old PC and install it as the connection point with router
software.

A router is much less important for a dial-up connection than for broadband,
as a firewall is usually adequate.

See, for instance:
http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.co...le.php/3482466


That's a really interesting device, Jeff!

Here's a dial-up NAT router that I use. It has a built-in 2-port
Ethernet switch for wired connections:

Actiontec Dual PC Modem
http://www.actiontec.com/products/br...odem/index.php

It's available for around US$60 from these stores:

http://shopping.netledger.com/s.nl/c...c=2&category=5
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...e-20/ref=nosim
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...&dcaid= 15889
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
 




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