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Old April 11th 05, 03:29 AM
Duradan
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Default defrag 'fix' for win98 on large drives

Fascinating how this works, using OE to post. I've never used usenet or the
like before.
Very interesting.
Thanks for the info, I expect I will try the program 'fix' available from
this guy
http://members.aol.com/rloew1/
Anyone think it might be worth the ten bucks?


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Old April 11th 05, 03:48 AM
PA Bear
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OT: Your headers ("Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409")
tell me you need to visit Windows Update ASAP. You're running much
less-secure versions of OE, IE and Windows, Duradan.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security

Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...ewsgroups.mspx

Duradan wrote:
Fascinating how this works, using OE to post. I've never used usenet or
the like before.
Very interesting.
Thanks for the info, I expect I will try the program 'fix' available from
this guy
http://members.aol.com/rloew1/
Anyone think it might be worth the ten bucks?


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Old April 11th 05, 04:23 AM
glee
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??? That's what my headers show too, Bear, and I have all the critical updates for
IE and OE installed. This is Win98, remember?
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http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
OT: Your headers ("Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409")
tell me you need to visit Windows Update ASAP. You're running much
less-secure versions of OE, IE and Windows, Duradan.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security

Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...ewsgroups.mspx

Duradan wrote:
Fascinating how this works, using OE to post. I've never used usenet or
the like before.
Very interesting.
Thanks for the info, I expect I will try the program 'fix' available from
this guy
http://members.aol.com/rloew1/
Anyone think it might be worth the ten bucks?



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Old April 11th 05, 04:32 AM
glee
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I cannot seem to get to that site. What is the "fix" there?
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Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx

"Duradan" wrote in message
...
Fascinating how this works, using OE to post. I've never used usenet or the
like before.
Very interesting.
Thanks for the info, I expect I will try the program 'fix' available from
this guy
http://members.aol.com/rloew1/
Anyone think it might be worth the ten bucks?



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Old April 11th 05, 06:13 AM
mae
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This is what I saw there- only 2 -a conferencing and this patch:
Shareware and Demo Programs written by Rudolph Loew
that have been packaged for internet distribution. Many more programs =
are available for the PC and Amiga Computers.

The High Capacity Disk Patch Program patches Windows 98/98SE/ME to =
provide direct support for hard drives larger than 137GB without =
requiring a controller card or the Intel Application Accelerator which =
can only beused with an Intel chipset motherboard. The patch installs =
support for the48-Bit addressing mode required for hard drives larger =
than 137GB.
NOTE: Some Programs and Documentation report this limit as 128GB.
--
mae

"glee" wrote in message =
...
| I cannot seem to get to that site. What is the "fix" there?
| --=20
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx
|=20
| "Duradan" wrote in message
| ...
| Fascinating how this works, using OE to post. I've never used usenet =
or the
| like before.
| Very interesting.
| Thanks for the info, I expect I will try the program 'fix' available =
from
| this guy
| http://members.aol.com/rloew1/
| Anyone think it might be worth the ten bucks?
|
|
|
  #6  
Old April 11th 05, 08:29 AM
Jeff Richards
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This is the first I have heard of it, and if it works as advertised then
he's done a real service to the W9x community. But I am a bit suspicious,
as it was my understanding that the problem was based in the BIOS and the
way that Windows is forced to use the BIOS for disk services. That's why
the controller card option works. If he can do in software what a new
controller does in the BIOS then there's no reason that the fix shouldn't be
OK.

If the fix has been around for some time, I would query why we haven't heard
more about it. Or perhaps it's brand new. Why not e-mail him and ask some
questions (like why isn't he advertising this a bit more widely!).
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"mae" wrote in message
...
This is what I saw there- only 2 -a conferencing and this patch:
Shareware and Demo Programs written by Rudolph Loew
that have been packaged for internet distribution. Many more programs are
available for the PC and Amiga Computers.

The High Capacity Disk Patch Program patches Windows 98/98SE/ME to provide
direct support for hard drives larger than 137GB without requiring a
controller card or the Intel Application Accelerator which can only beused
with an Intel chipset motherboard. The patch installs support for the48-Bit
addressing mode required for hard drives larger than 137GB.
NOTE: Some Programs and Documentation report this limit as 128GB.
--
mae

"glee" wrote in message
...
| I cannot seem to get to that site. What is the "fix" there?
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx
|
| "Duradan" wrote in message
| ...
| Fascinating how this works, using OE to post. I've never used usenet or
the
| like before.
| Very interesting.
| Thanks for the info, I expect I will try the program 'fix' available
from
| this guy
| http://members.aol.com/rloew1/
| Anyone think it might be worth the ten bucks?
|
|
|


  #7  
Old April 11th 05, 09:29 AM
Duradan
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Yea, I know there are still 13 I need to get. But with the latest 711 patch
flap, I was harshly affected by it, I've been less strident in my updating.
I use FireFox to browse new sites and often IE for familiar trusted sites.
OE probably has several in that waiting load of.....updates.
I will be sure not to hit that one until I see some reliable "I tried it on
my Win98 system and it is fine" statements.
I am thinking about his 'fix', but like you guys said, if it works, why is
it so hard to find?
Here is our correspondence

First, his reply to my letter prior.

My Patch Program does not affect Windows SCANDISK or DEFRAG so you will
still need to make individual Partitions less than 127GB. You can run
SCANDISK in DOS, not a DOS Box, on larger Partitions. I haven't found a
DEFRAG that will work. The ones I have found on the Web so far use the
Windows DEFRAG libraries so they have the same problem.

You should be able to Install the Drive on most if not all Motherboards
using the Patch.

You should not need to reformat or Repartition the Drive to move from one
Motherboard to another with the Patch.


Sincerely,

Rudolph R. Loew



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Hi. About your large capacity drive program. Will it allow the basic

Windows98 defrag and scandisc programs to function on the full 137GB+ of a
drive?
And if not, is there a program that will defrag the entire space as a

single partition?
Currently I have just installed a 160GB drive on a controller card, but if

your software will eliminate the defrag/scan problems it would be much
prefered.
Not to mention having the large drives install directly on a mobo in future

would be nice.
I have an AMD based AOpen AK77-333 mobo with the via Via Apollo Pro chipset

family and am running Win98SE.
Also, would I have to reformat the drive to move it to the mobo under

Windows for the software to deal with it or can I keep the current data
intact during the move?



"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
OT: Your headers ("Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409")
tell me you need to visit Windows Update ASAP. You're running much
less-secure versions of OE, IE and Windows, Duradan.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security

Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...ewsgroups.mspx



  #8  
Old April 11th 05, 09:32 AM
Duradan
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Someone should build a defragger for large drives and get rich . There is
about to be a massive influx of large drives being bought by the average
users and not knowing it won't be possible to defrag or scan for errors.
Drives over 120GB are getting cheap, and us poor folks still using our Win98
are gonna need it.



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Old April 11th 05, 01:11 PM
Bill Blanton
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I thought that too, but he only seems concerned about the boot
process. From the manual-

"
REQUIREMENTS

Windows 98, 98SE or ME (Read WINDOWS ME Section Below if using Windows ME)

BIOS support for hard drives 137GB or
A Windows Compatable Boot Manager that supports hard drives 137GB
A Mini Boot Manager is now available from Rudolph R. Loew
"

btw, the demo is good for up to 145GB.


"Jeff Richards" wrote in message ...
This is the first I have heard of it, and if it works as advertised then he's done a real service to the W9x community. But I am
a bit suspicious, as it was my understanding that the problem was based in the BIOS and the way that Windows is forced to use the
BIOS for disk services. That's why the controller card option works. If he can do in software what a new controller does in the
BIOS then there's no reason that the fix shouldn't be OK.

If the fix has been around for some time, I would query why we haven't heard more about it. Or perhaps it's brand new. Why not
e-mail him and ask some questions (like why isn't he advertising this a bit more widely!).
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"mae" wrote in message ...
This is what I saw there- only 2 -a conferencing and this patch:
Shareware and Demo Programs written by Rudolph Loew
that have been packaged for internet distribution. Many more programs are available for the PC and Amiga Computers.

The High Capacity Disk Patch Program patches Windows 98/98SE/ME to provide direct support for hard drives larger than 137GB
without requiring a controller card or the Intel Application Accelerator which can only beused with an Intel chipset motherboard.
The patch installs support for the48-Bit addressing mode required for hard drives larger than 137GB.
NOTE: Some Programs and Documentation report this limit as 128GB.
--
mae

"glee" wrote in message ...
| I cannot seem to get to that site. What is the "fix" there?
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx
|
| "Duradan" wrote in message
| ...
| Fascinating how this works, using OE to post. I've never used usenet or the
| like before.
| Very interesting.
| Thanks for the info, I expect I will try the program 'fix' available from
| this guy
| http://members.aol.com/rloew1/
| Anyone think it might be worth the ten bucks?
|
|
|



  #10  
Old April 11th 05, 02:19 PM
Rick Chauvin
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Duradan wrote:

Thanks for the info, I expect I will try the program 'fix' available from
this guy
http://members.aol.com/rloew1/
Anyone think it might be worth the ten bucks?


I've not seen that software yet - and congrats to Mr. Loew for doing that.

However, using a modern controller card with its exceptional advantaged
qualifications is the ultimate way to do it, period! ..all else comparatively
is limited.

Continuing from my reply to your earlier post and now to this one Duradan,
using any modern Controller card which takes care of not only that 9x 127GB
limitation issue, but it also inherently gives the extra remarkable advantage
of increasing overall system performance dramatically, even much better than
any AA (application accelerator) which is intel proprietary anyway not to
mention its other software based limitations; whereas the controller card has
no such limitations whatsoever and besides covers all brand motherboards. A
controller card also gives the advantage of having extra dual primary ports
with that wonderful convenience as well.

I would not own a desktop computer that does not use a controller card, not
only just for W9x usage but for W2000/WXP also where those show and overall
system performance increase using it as well.

It's a no-brainer, and for those who have one and have compared the
differences with and without it - know what I'm talking about.
It's especially noticeable when using todays fast modern motherboards and
processors and run 9x - you have no idea what you are missing. Even works
well for those with old mb's and processors too.

Here's a link with some screenshots of it:
http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?style=album
..here's just one of many places you can buy it:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-007&depa=0
..but of course buy it wherever you want - but without question be sure it's
a Promise ULTRA133 TX2 model because it's the best & includes the latest
mods.

Rick





















 




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