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Old July 6th 04, 09:28 PM
Johnny_B
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Default Unable to open Windows Explorer from Start button

Right-click the Start button and choose Explore is no longer available as
an option to open Windows Explorer. This option was apparently removed
after I installed Tweak UI two (2) days ago. I have since removed Tweak UI
using Add/Remove Programs. I can still open Windows Explorer by
right-clicking the My Computer icon and choosing Explore. However, I want
the Start button option back as before. How do I do it?
Windows98 SE.

Johnny_B

  #2  
Old July 7th 04, 02:18 AM
Johnny_B
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Default Unable to open Windows Explorer from Start button

Problem finally resolved after doing a manual restore of a previous copy of
the registry. Basically, I used KB 221512, but mistakenly used Command
Prompt Only instead of Safe Mode Command Prompt Only. It worked anyway!
No more Tweakie stuff for this guy. I'm still curious how I could have
manually edited the registry (regedit) to restore the default features of
Windows Explorer for Windows98. I'm guessing that in Windows95, Windows
Explorer could not be started from the Start button (as in Windows98). PCR
(not PCP), what do you think?

Johnny_B


"Johnny_B" wrote in message
news:6WDGc.20456$Ch.11222@okepread04...
| Right-click the Start button and choose Explore is no longer available as
| an option to open Windows Explorer. This option was apparently removed
| after I installed Tweak UI two (2) days ago. I have since removed Tweak
UI
| using Add/Remove Programs. I can still open Windows Explorer by
| right-clicking the My Computer icon and choosing Explore. However, I
want
| the Start button option back as before. How do I do it?
| Windows98 SE.
|
| Johnny_B
|

  #3  
Old July 7th 04, 04:23 AM
glee
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Default Unable to open Windows Explorer from Start button

You could have fixed it with TweakUI.....apparently you used the "My Computer" tab
in TweakUI to un-check some drive letters....a side effect of that is to disable the
Explore option on the Start button right-click context menu. ALL drive letters must
be check-marked even if you do not have those drive letters in use on your machine,
or the Explore option is disabled.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Johnny_B" wrote in message
news:_9IGc.21283$Ch.4279@okepread04...
Problem finally resolved after doing a manual restore of a previous copy of
the registry. Basically, I used KB 221512, but mistakenly used Command
Prompt Only instead of Safe Mode Command Prompt Only. It worked anyway!
No more Tweakie stuff for this guy. I'm still curious how I could have
manually edited the registry (regedit) to restore the default features of
Windows Explorer for Windows98. I'm guessing that in Windows95, Windows
Explorer could not be started from the Start button (as in Windows98). PCR
(not PCP), what do you think?

Johnny_B


"Johnny_B" wrote in message
news:6WDGc.20456$Ch.11222@okepread04...
| Right-click the Start button and choose Explore is no longer available as
| an option to open Windows Explorer. This option was apparently removed
| after I installed Tweak UI two (2) days ago. I have since removed Tweak
UI
| using Add/Remove Programs. I can still open Windows Explorer by
| right-clicking the My Computer icon and choosing Explore. However, I
want
| the Start button option back as before. How do I do it?
| Windows98 SE.
|
| Johnny_B
|


  #4  
Old July 7th 04, 05:41 AM
Johnny_B
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Default Unable to open Windows Explorer from Start button

You're right, Glen. I un-checked 22 drive letters, but left A, C, D and E
checked. That seemed like the right thing to do based upon the tips given.
Thanks.

Johnny_B

"glee" wrote in message
...
| You could have fixed it with TweakUI.....apparently you used the "My
Computer" tab
| in TweakUI to un-check some drive letters....a side effect of that is to
disable the
| Explore option on the Start button right-click context menu. ALL drive
letters must
| be check-marked even if you do not have those drive letters in use on
your machine,
| or the Explore option is disabled.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Johnny_B" wrote in message
| news:_9IGc.21283$Ch.4279@okepread04...
| Problem finally resolved after doing a manual restore of a previous
copy of
| the registry. Basically, I used KB 221512, but mistakenly used Command
| Prompt Only instead of Safe Mode Command Prompt Only. It worked
anyway!
| No more Tweakie stuff for this guy. I'm still curious how I could have
| manually edited the registry (regedit) to restore the default features
of
| Windows Explorer for Windows98. I'm guessing that in Windows95,
Windows
| Explorer could not be started from the Start button (as in Windows98).
PCR
| (not PCP), what do you think?
|
| Johnny_B
|
|
| "Johnny_B" wrote in message
| news:6WDGc.20456$Ch.11222@okepread04...
| | Right-click the Start button and choose Explore is no longer
available as
| | an option to open Windows Explorer. This option was apparently
removed
| | after I installed Tweak UI two (2) days ago. I have since removed
Tweak
| UI
| | using Add/Remove Programs. I can still open Windows Explorer by
| | right-clicking the My Computer icon and choosing Explore. However, I
| want
| | the Start button option back as before. How do I do it?
| | Windows98 SE.
| |
| | Johnny_B
| |
|
|

  #5  
Old July 7th 04, 12:16 PM
glee
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Default Unable to open Windows Explorer from Start button

I read the tool tip for the My Computer tab, and I don't see where it is
recommended. It only states that unchecked drive letters will never appear. If you
have a virtual drive added by a program, having unchecked drive letters will only
cause you untold problems. With tweak apps, you must think things out before
applying the tweaks. :-)
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Johnny_B" wrote in message
news:S8LGc.20642$Qj6.1623@fed1read05...
You're right, Glen. I un-checked 22 drive letters, but left A, C, D and E
checked. That seemed like the right thing to do based upon the tips given.
Thanks.

Johnny_B

"glee" wrote in message
...
| You could have fixed it with TweakUI.....apparently you used the "My
Computer" tab
| in TweakUI to un-check some drive letters....a side effect of that is to
disable the
| Explore option on the Start button right-click context menu. ALL drive
letters must
| be check-marked even if you do not have those drive letters in use on
your machine,
| or the Explore option is disabled.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Johnny_B" wrote in message
| news:_9IGc.21283$Ch.4279@okepread04...
| Problem finally resolved after doing a manual restore of a previous
copy of
| the registry. Basically, I used KB 221512, but mistakenly used Command
| Prompt Only instead of Safe Mode Command Prompt Only. It worked
anyway!
| No more Tweakie stuff for this guy. I'm still curious how I could have
| manually edited the registry (regedit) to restore the default features
of
| Windows Explorer for Windows98. I'm guessing that in Windows95,
Windows
| Explorer could not be started from the Start button (as in Windows98).
PCR
| (not PCP), what do you think?
|
| Johnny_B
|
|
| "Johnny_B" wrote in message
| news:6WDGc.20456$Ch.11222@okepread04...
| | Right-click the Start button and choose Explore is no longer
available as
| | an option to open Windows Explorer. This option was apparently
removed
| | after I installed Tweak UI two (2) days ago. I have since removed
Tweak
| UI
| | using Add/Remove Programs. I can still open Windows Explorer by
| | right-clicking the My Computer icon and choosing Explore. However, I
| want
| | the Start button option back as before. How do I do it?
| | Windows98 SE.
| |
| | Johnny_B
| |
|
|


  #6  
Old July 7th 04, 09:59 PM
PCR
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Default Unable to open Windows Explorer from Start button

It is as Glee said, & you have confirmed. Although I never installed
TweakUI, that problem comes up here often enough. Anyway, it is OK to
use Command Line Only for a Registry /Restore. Here is what I know of
that...

Boot to DOS (hold Ctrl as you boot for the Startup Menu, & select
"Command Prompt Only"), and Enter

SCANREG /Restore

It will offer five, one for each of the last five separate days you
booted successfully. Start with the one of the day the problem began, as
these backups of the entire Registry (& System.ini & Win.ini) are done
at boot, not at shut down.

CAVEAT: A /Restore restores settings only. If there was a file change
(other than to System.ini & Win.ini), those cannot be undone this way.
That could be a problem, especially if there was a hardware change or
large install since the backup was made.

(1) After a /Restore, an RB...cab will show up that appears to be
BLOATED. It really isn't larger, but that is only a marker to indicate
it was replaced. I believe it is the Registry that was replaced, i.e.,
it was the System.dat/User.dat/System.ini/Win.ini that were in effect
before you did the /Restore. The files inside are still compacted. I
never tried to /Restore one of those. Can it be they will not /Restore?
They will drop off as the days pass, & all will be normal sized again.

(2) "RBbad.cab", if you have one, will retain it's date until the
following should happen again. RBbad is created when...

(a) You do a "Scanreg /Fix", or
(b) Windows decides you have a corrupt Registry, & replaces it on it's
own at boot.

(3) Here is more I know (I think)...

(a) "START, Run, Scanreg" will NOT create an RB..cab that looks bloated.
It does creates an RB..cab of the same date as the latest, IF it is the
same day as the most recent boot.
(b) The RB..cab created at the most recent boot is marked "not started"
by /Restore in DOS.
(c) The RB..cab created by "START, Run, Scanreg" is also "not started"
(d) I was able to choose both "started" & "not started" in /Restore.
(e) A /Restore DOES create a bloated RB(next available number).cab.
(f) A Windows initiated auto-/Restore does same, but puts the bloat into
RBBAD.cab.
(g) It appears there really is NO BLOAT, but the size of the cab is just
reported differently, just to indicate it was created by a /Restore. The
files inside are normal sized.
(h) I have not attempted to /Restore a bloated one, but they are
offered.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Johnny_B" wrote in message
news:_9IGc.21283$Ch.4279@okepread04...
| Problem finally resolved after doing a manual restore of a previous
copy of
| the registry. Basically, I used KB 221512, but mistakenly used
Command
| Prompt Only instead of Safe Mode Command Prompt Only. It worked
anyway!
| No more Tweakie stuff for this guy. I'm still curious how I could
have
| manually edited the registry (regedit) to restore the default features
of
| Windows Explorer for Windows98. I'm guessing that in Windows95,
Windows
| Explorer could not be started from the Start button (as in Windows98).
PCR
| (not PCP), what do you think?
|
| Johnny_B
|
|
| "Johnny_B" wrote in message
| news:6WDGc.20456$Ch.11222@okepread04...
| | Right-click the Start button and choose Explore is no longer
available as
| | an option to open Windows Explorer. This option was apparently
removed
| | after I installed Tweak UI two (2) days ago. I have since removed
Tweak
| UI
| | using Add/Remove Programs. I can still open Windows Explorer by
| | right-clicking the My Computer icon and choosing Explore. However,
I
| want
| | the Start button option back as before. How do I do it?
| | Windows98 SE.
| |
| | Johnny_B
| |
|


  #7  
Old July 14th 04, 04:07 AM
Bill Blanton
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Default Unable to open Windows Explorer from Start button

"PCR" wrote in message ...

SCANREG /Restore


(1) After a /Restore, an RB...cab will show up that appears to be
BLOATED. It really isn't larger, but that is only a marker to indicate
it was replaced. I believe it is the Registry that was replaced, i.e.,
it was the System.dat/User.dat/System.ini/Win.ini that were in effect
before you did the /Restore. The files inside are still compacted.


Those are the files, but it isn't bloated or compressed. DOS SCANREG.EXE
only stores the files, along with the necessary information to extract. If you
add up the bytes, you'll see that the total size of the *.cab is slightly greater
than the parts. The reason the name is ALLCAPS.CAB is because it is created
in DOS.

I never tried to /Restore one of those. Can it be they will not /Restore?


They are probably more likely to restore, by some micro-odds amount..
since they are not compressed at all..



  #8  
Old July 14th 04, 06:15 AM
PCR
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Default Unable to open Windows Explorer from Start button

Uh-oh. Probably what I did was note that the files inside both the
BLOATED & unbloated ones were about the same size. I guess I thought
that meant they were all compressed. Now, looking inside one that is not
bloated, I see System.ini inside is about the same size as the one in
C:\Windows.

Therefore, it likely is that WinZip shows the size of the files in it's
window as it would be when unzipped. So, I don't really know whether the
BLOATED ones have compressed files or not. Geez.

| If you
| add up the bytes, you'll see that the total size of the *.cab is
slightly greater
| than the parts. The reason the name is ALLCAPS.CAB is because it is
created
| in DOS.

I don't have any BLOATED ones now. However, my latest RB003.cab is
reported to be...

Properties shows... 1,533,728 bytes
WinZip shows...
User.dat................. 643,104
System.dat............. 5,361,696
Win.ini.................. 8,344
System.ini............. 2,431

This says a normal, non-bloated RB...cab does have compressed files. A
BLOATED one (meaning it's Properties shows a size that adds up the
WinZip numbers) may or may not contain compressed files. Are you sure
they are not?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
...
| "PCR" wrote in message
...
|
| SCANREG /Restore
|
| (1) After a /Restore, an RB...cab will show up that appears to be
| BLOATED. It really isn't larger, but that is only a marker to
indicate
| it was replaced. I believe it is the Registry that was replaced,
i.e.,
| it was the System.dat/User.dat/System.ini/Win.ini that were in
effect
| before you did the /Restore. The files inside are still compacted.
|
| Those are the files, but it isn't bloated or compressed. DOS
SCANREG.EXE
| only stores the files, along with the necessary information to
extract. If you
| add up the bytes, you'll see that the total size of the *.cab is
slightly greater
| than the parts. The reason the name is ALLCAPS.CAB is because it is
created
| in DOS.
|
| I never tried to /Restore one of those. Can it be they will not
/Restore?
|
| They are probably more likely to restore, by some micro-odds amount..
| since they are not compressed at all..
|
|
|


  #9  
Old July 14th 04, 12:59 PM
Bill Blanton
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Default Unable to open Windows Explorer from Start button


"PCR" wrote in message ...
Uh-oh. Probably what I did was note that the files inside both the
BLOATED & unbloated ones were about the same size. I guess I thought
that meant they were all compressed. Now, looking inside one that is not
bloated, I see System.ini inside is about the same size as the one in
C:\Windows.

Therefore, it likely is that WinZip shows the size of the files in it's
window as it would be when unzipped.


Yep.

| If you
| add up the bytes, you'll see that the total size of the *.cab is
slightly greater
| than the parts. The reason the name is ALLCAPS.CAB is because it is
created
| in DOS.

I don't have any BLOATED ones now.


An easy way to get one is to run scanreg /backup from dos.

However, my latest RB003.cab is
reported to be...

Properties shows... 1,533,728 bytes
WinZip shows...
User.dat................. 643,104
System.dat............. 5,361,696
Win.ini.................. 8,344
System.ini............. 2,431

This says a normal, non-bloated RB...cab does have compressed files. A
BLOATED one (meaning it's Properties shows a size that adds up the
WinZip numbers) may or may not contain compressed files. Are you sure
they are not?


Open one in wordpad and do a search for any string specific to your
win.ini or system.ini. You'll find the whole file archived untouched.




  #10  
Old July 14th 04, 10:18 PM
PCR
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Default Unable to open Windows Explorer from Start button

Are you saying System.ini & Win.ini are not compressed, even in a normal
RB..cab? Or just in the "bloated" ones? Does a "bloated" one have
compressed System/User.dat's?

Bloated one: Properties shows size of RB..cab to be about equal to size
of components as seen in WinZip.

I believe the only difference between a "bloated" one & the other is the
way it's size is reported in Properties. And it means that this is the
Registry, etc., that was replaced by "Scanreg /Restore". That is, the
Registry, System.ini, & Win.ini that existed before the /Restore is now
in a "bloated" one. Yes or no?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
...
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
...
| Uh-oh. Probably what I did was note that the files inside both the
| BLOATED & unbloated ones were about the same size. I guess I thought
| that meant they were all compressed. Now, looking inside one that is
not
| bloated, I see System.ini inside is about the same size as the one
in
| C:\Windows.
|
| Therefore, it likely is that WinZip shows the size of the files in
it's
| window as it would be when unzipped.
|
| Yep.
|
| | If you
| | add up the bytes, you'll see that the total size of the *.cab is
| slightly greater
| | than the parts. The reason the name is ALLCAPS.CAB is because it
is
| created
| | in DOS.
|
| I don't have any BLOATED ones now.
|
| An easy way to get one is to run scanreg /backup from dos.
|
| However, my latest RB003.cab is
| reported to be...
|
| Properties shows... 1,533,728 bytes
| WinZip shows...
| User.dat................. 643,104
| System.dat............. 5,361,696
| Win.ini.................. 8,344
| System.ini............. 2,431
|
| This says a normal, non-bloated RB...cab does have compressed files.
A
| BLOATED one (meaning it's Properties shows a size that adds up the
| WinZip numbers) may or may not contain compressed files. Are you
sure
| they are not?
|
| Open one in wordpad and do a search for any string specific to your
| win.ini or system.ini. You'll find the whole file archived untouched.
|
|
|
|


 




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