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still having vid adapter driver probs...
hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions
video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked. to refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired 800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video adapter driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything and reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked [neither has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do, upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired result. the only difference is that now i don't get the message stating that there is a problem--i just get the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is of assistance to your advice...]??? thanks, allyson |
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still having vid adapter driver probs...
There is one other possibility I can think of. It might be a complete red
herring, but it's worth a look. When the default display is installed, do Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the section [boot] and the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry? Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the entry change? Shutdown and boot to DOS. Do EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI and look at the entry again. What is it now? -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message ... hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked. to refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired 800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video adapter driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything and reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked [neither has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do, upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired result. the only difference is that now i don't get the message stating that there is a problem--i just get the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is of assistance to your advice...]??? thanks, allyson |
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still having vid adapter driver probs...
damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys with a problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it came back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe that was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color, so i shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i didn't leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows at this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and leave it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or tomorrow and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort. btw- -i checked in current mode and the value for display.drv was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any. and also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3 running win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-1999 and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a diff...] thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!! allyson -----Original Message----- There is one other possibility I can think of. It might be a complete red herring, but it's worth a look. When the default display is installed, do Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the section [boot] and the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry? Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the entry change? Shutdown and boot to DOS. Do EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI and look at the entry again. What is it now? -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message ... hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked. to refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired 800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video adapter driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything and reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked [neither has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do, upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired result. the only difference is that now i don't get the message stating that there is a problem--i just get the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is of assistance to your advice...]??? thanks, allyson . |
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still having vid adapter driver probs...
Don't complain - if fixing it is as simple as asking the question, I'd go
with that! -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message ... damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys with a problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it came back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe that was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color, so i shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i didn't leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows at this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and leave it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or tomorrow and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort. btw- -i checked in current mode and the value for display.drv was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any. and also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3 running win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-1999 and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a diff...] thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!! allyson -----Original Message----- There is one other possibility I can think of. It might be a complete red herring, but it's worth a look. When the default display is installed, do Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the section [boot] and the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry? Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the entry change? Shutdown and boot to DOS. Do EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI and look at the entry again. What is it now? -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message ... hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked. to refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired 800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video adapter driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything and reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked [neither has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do, upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired result. the only difference is that now i don't get the message stating that there is a problem--i just get the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is of assistance to your advice...]??? thanks, allyson . |
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still having vid adapter driver probs...
nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the display...' message. i checked the value--same with default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms-dos [just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would not. just got the last screen i get right before my desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i just a computard or is that not supposed to happen?? shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea... [but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and voila! there was my desired res/colors...] thanks for any assistance--this is really getting weird!! regards-- allyson -----Original Message----- Don't complain - if fixing it is as simple as asking the question, I'd go with that! -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message ... damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys with a problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it came back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe that was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color, so i shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i didn't leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows at this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and leave it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or tomorrow and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort. btw- -i checked in current mode and the value for display.drv was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any. and also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3 running win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-1999 and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a diff...] thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!! allyson -----Original Message----- There is one other possibility I can think of. It might be a complete red herring, but it's worth a look. When the default display is installed, do Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the section [boot] and the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry? Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the entry change? Shutdown and boot to DOS. Do EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI and look at the entry again. What is it now? -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message .. . hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked. to refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired 800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video adapter driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything and reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked [neither has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do, upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired result. the only difference is that now i don't get the message stating that there is a problem--i just get the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is of assistance to your advice...]??? thanks, allyson . . |
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I'm not sure of all that's been attempted at fixing the problem or the =
problem itself from this thread, so I won't get into the specifics, but = you could go into the registry and remove any/all that has to do with = the video adapter/s within Enum. --=20 Brian A. Conflicts start where information lacks. "allyson" wrote in message = ... =20 nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just=20 now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the=20 display...' message. i checked the value--same with=20 default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms-dos=20 [just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would=20 not. just got the last screen i get right before my=20 desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the=20 cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what=20 to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied=20 the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i=20 just a computard or is that not supposed to happen?? =20 shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut=20 downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea... [but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver=20 this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and=20 voila! there was my desired res/colors...] =20 thanks for any assistance--this is really getting weird!! regards-- allyson -----Original Message----- Don't complain - if fixing it is as simple as asking the=20 question, I'd go=20 with that! --=20 Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in=20 message=20 ... damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys with=20 a problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it came back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe=20 that was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color,=20 so i shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i=20 didn't leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows at this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and=20 leave it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or tomorrow and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort. =20 btw- -i checked in current mode and the value for display.drv was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any. and also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3 running win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-1999 and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a diff...] thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!! allyson -----Original Message----- There is one other possibility I can think of. It might be a complete red herring, but it's worth a look. When the default=20 display is installed, do Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the section [boot] and the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry? Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the entry change? Shutdown and boot to DOS. Do EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI and look at the entry again. What is it now? --=20 Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message .. . hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked. to refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired 800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video adapter driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything and reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe mode,letting the pc install the default driver and=20 then installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked [neither has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i=20 do, upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired result. the only difference is that now i don't get=20 the message stating that there is a problem--i just get the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go=20 through the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description=20 is of assistance to your advice...]??? thanks, allyson . =20 . |
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That's correct for re-starting in MS-DOS mode - you are
getting the famous DOS prompt. You can type commands at the prompt, such as DIR, or EXIT. -----Original Message----- nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the display...' message. i checked the value--same with default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms-dos [just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would not. just got the last screen i get right before my desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i just a computard or is that not supposed to happen?? shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea... [but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and voila! there was my desired res/colors...] thanks for any assistance--this is really getting weird!! regards-- allyson -----Original Message----- Don't complain - if fixing it is as simple as asking the question, I'd go with that! -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message ... damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys with a problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it came back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe that was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color, so i shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i didn't leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows at this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and leave it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or tomorrow and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort. btw- -i checked in current mode and the value for display.drv was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any. and also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3 running win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14-1999 and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a diff...] thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!! allyson -----Original Message----- There is one other possibility I can think of. It might be a complete red herring, but it's worth a look. When the default display is installed, do Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the section [boot] and the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry? Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the entry change? Shutdown and boot to DOS. Do EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI and look at the entry again. What is it now? -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message . .. hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked. to refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired 800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video adapter driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything and reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked [neither has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do, upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired result. the only difference is that now i don't get the message stating that there is a problem--i just get the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is of assistance to your advice...]??? thanks, allyson . . . |
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I'm thinking about it, but don't hold your breath (sorry)! The pnp driver
reference is correct - it means that the driver to use is the one selected by the PlugnPlay routine based on the fact that the device can identify itself to Windows so that the correct drivers are used. If this was the name of a specific driver then that would be used instead, and it might be wrong for your hardware. Some video device driver installation routines don't update the pnp driver entry correctly, meaning that they get replaced with whatever the driver in the INI file is, so it appears that the installation doesn't work. Of course, the pnp entry means that you are relying on the pnp process to correctly identify the device, so this might be where your problem is. If the card is not identifying itself, or if the identification is ambiguous, Windows might be replacing the correct driver with the one that it thinks is correct. There might be setting in BIOS setup related to the plug and play BIOS that would have an effect. It would also be possible to (effectively) disable plug and play for the video by inserting the driver reference into the INI file. This is well into the area of experimenting, which can be risky. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message ... nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the display...' message. i checked the value--same with default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms-dos [just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would not. just got the last screen i get right before my desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i just a computard or is that not supposed to happen?? shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea... [but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and voila! there was my desired res/colors...] thanks for any assistance--this is really getting weird!! regards-- allyson |
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tried it. but thanks anyway. regards-- allyson -----Original Message----- I'm not sure of all that's been attempted at fixing the problem or the problem itself from this thread, so I won't get into the specifics, but you could go into the registry and remove any/all that has to do with the video adapter/s within Enum. -- Brian A. Conflicts start where information lacks. "allyson" wrote in message ... nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the display...' message. i checked the value--same with default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms- dos [just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would not. just got the last screen i get right before my desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i just a computard or is that not supposed to happen?? shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea... [but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and voila! there was my desired res/colors...] thanks for any assistance--this is really getting weird!! regards-- allyson -----Original Message----- Don't complain - if fixing it is as simple as asking the question, I'd go with that! -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message ... damn, jeff--it seems every time i come to you guys with a problem, the symptoms disappear magically 'til the morrow!!! i just rebooted 6 times and each time it came back to desired settings. i thought perhaps since the first two times i shut down with 'restart' that maybe that was the reason it didn't go back to 640x480/16 color, so i shut down completely for the next tries--perhaps i didn't leave the pc idle long enough or something [who knows at this point?? lol]. so, i will either shut down and leave it idle for quite a while and reboot tonight or tomorrow and see what happens--then i'll try your last resort. btw- -i checked in current mode and the value for display.drv was pnpdrvr.drv--not that i presume that helps any. and also, for the record, this is a compaq pentium 3 running win98se and the display adapter driver is a trident blade3d/mvp4[63]. the two drivers are dated 11-14- 1999 and 1-19-2000, respectively [if any of that makes a diff...] thanks and i'll let you know what happens!!! allyson -----Original Message----- There is one other possibility I can think of. It might be a complete red herring, but it's worth a look. When the default display is installed, do Start / Run / Sysedit and look in System.INI. Find the section [boot] and the entry display.drv. What is the value for this entry? Then reinstall the drivers and check again. Does the entry change? Shutdown and boot to DOS. Do EDIT C:\Windows\System.INI and look at the entry again. What is it now? -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message .. . hi, ron, jeff et al. i've tried all your suggestions video adapter driver problems and nothing has worked. to refresh your memories, in order to attain my desired 800x600 and 16-bit, i have to reinstall the video adapter driver at each reboot. i've tried removing everything and reinstalling, removing everything and starting in safe mode,letting the pc install the default driver and then installing the newest driver--that hasn't worked [neither has using the un-updated driver]. no matter what i do, upon bootup, i have 640x480 and 16 color, then need to reinstall the driver and restart to get the desired result. the only difference is that now i don't get the message stating that there is a problem--i just get the 'undesired' resolution/colors and have to go through the reinstall/reboot. any ideas [hope my description is of assistance to your advice...]??? thanks, allyson |
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thanks,jeff. told you i was a computard [at least where ms-dos is concerned]. i hadn't the slightest idea what to do. now that i do know, i find it really funny. well, this is how we learn, no?? anyway, since the .ini thing is risky at best, i guess i will settle for the constant reinstallation--at least i have a cable modem, so i can use the time for reinstallation and imagine i'm waiting for a dial-up connection [lol]. thanks for all the help--i'm sure i'll have another question for you before long--thanks so much for being here and available. it really means a lot. well, i'm off to perhaps delve into things and investigate to see what i might find--o, by the way--NOW, when i boot up, the screen comes up with the default resolution, but my desired desktop color and pattern are there--will wonders never cease?? and i'm not getting that 'problem' message--at least for now. thanks again-- allyson -----Original Message----- I'm thinking about it, but don't hold your breath (sorry)! The pnp driver reference is correct - it means that the driver to use is the one selected by the PlugnPlay routine based on the fact that the device can identify itself to Windows so that the correct drivers are used. If this was the name of a specific driver then that would be used instead, and it might be wrong for your hardware. Some video device driver installation routines don't update the pnp driver entry correctly, meaning that they get replaced with whatever the driver in the INI file is, so it appears that the installation doesn't work. Of course, the pnp entry means that you are relying on the pnp process to correctly identify the device, so this might be where your problem is. If the card is not identifying itself, or if the identification is ambiguous, Windows might be replacing the correct driver with the one that it thinks is correct. There might be setting in BIOS setup related to the plug and play BIOS that would have an effect. It would also be possible to (effectively) disable plug and play for the video by inserting the driver reference into the INI file. This is well into the area of experimenting, which can be risky. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "allyson" wrote in message ... nope--told you--wait 'til the morrow--same problem, just now i'm getting the 'there is a problem with the display...' message. i checked the value--same with default as with desired. i also tried to start in ms- dos [just for the hell of it] and lo and behold, it would not. just got the last screen i get right before my desktop--it said 'c:\windows' at the bottom with the cursor right there after the '', but i didn't know what to do. so i hit 'enter' and it just copied the 'c:\windows' again every time i hit 'enter'. am i just a computard or is that not supposed to happen?? shouldn't it go into ms-dos just by going 'startshut downrestart in ms-dos'?? i am now totally at sea... [but i didn't have to reinstall the video adapter driver this time--just reset the res etc. and restarted and voila! there was my desired res/colors...] thanks for any assistance--this is really getting weird!! regards-- allyson . |
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