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uninstalling office programs
My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or antivirus
yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! (how can that be? ... his popup blocker or downloaded toolbars? an external modem firewall that I couldn't find?) So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! I attempted to uninstall some components of MS Office 2000 Pro, namely Access and Powerpoint. The uninstaller in Add/Remove Programs only tries to install. When I select to 'repair or remove components' it will only open up the install wizard. Is there a trick to this? Is it possible the uninstaller is corrupt? When we get it working, since he is using Outlook Express, can we uninstall Outlook, too? I know the programs are fully installed, because they run. Any help would be appreciated. Liz |
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Office installer actually installs/uninstalls. When Office is installed =
you select what to install, all you need to do is unselect anything you = do not want while in the installer. I've never used Off2K but have used = Off 95, 97 Pro and now I use XP Pro. IIRC all install/uninstall in the = same manner, can't remember if I used the CD with 95 or not. --=20 Brian A. Conflicts start where information lacks. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz Murphy" wrote in message = ... My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or = antivirus=20 yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! (how can = that=20 be? ... his popup blocker or downloaded toolbars? an external modem = firewall=20 that I couldn't find?) =20 So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! =20 I attempted to uninstall some components of MS Office 2000 Pro, namely = Access and Powerpoint.=20 The uninstaller in Add/Remove Programs only tries to install.=20 =20 When I select to 'repair or remove components' it will only open up = the=20 install wizard. Is there a trick to this? Is it possible the = uninstaller is=20 corrupt?=20 =20 When we get it working, since he is using Outlook Express, can we = uninstall=20 Outlook, too? =20 I know the programs are fully installed, because they run. =20 Any help would be appreciated. Liz |
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I don't have office 2000 installed here....I have Office XP....but when you select
Repair or Remove Components, and the install wizard starts, you should be able to un-check the components you do not want and then uninstall. There is no "uninstall wizard"....the install wizard is where it is all done, through Office Setup. My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or antivirus yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! Are you quite sure of that? If there is no anti-virus installed, how do you know there are no viruses? I would be surprised if there was no spyware or trojans, especially if he has been installing toolbars. Has he been to Windows Update and installed all the critical updates for Win98? So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! No, actually you need to free up space and NOT install any apps. With only 55MB free space, it is surprising that Windows is running at all. It requires a lot more free space than that just to maintain the swap file. You need to free up quite a lot of space, or get a bigger hard drive, then go to Windows Update for the critical updates. Following that, install an anti-virus and keep it updated frequently....I update daily. There are some free anti-virus apps available.....one is AVG Free Edition: http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php I suggest you do a deeper check for spyware and trojans, along with any possible viruses: Install an anti-virus app, update it, and then run a full-system virus scan. Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...CWShredder.exe http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip Run it with all browser windows and programs closed, and click the Fix button. In addition, install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for Updates' link in the app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it finds. Ad-Awa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/ -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz Murphy" wrote in message ... My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or antivirus yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! (how can that be? ... his popup blocker or downloaded toolbars? an external modem firewall that I couldn't find?) So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! I attempted to uninstall some components of MS Office 2000 Pro, namely Access and Powerpoint. The uninstaller in Add/Remove Programs only tries to install. When I select to 'repair or remove components' it will only open up the install wizard. Is there a trick to this? Is it possible the uninstaller is corrupt? When we get it working, since he is using Outlook Express, can we uninstall Outlook, too? I know the programs are fully installed, because they run. Any help would be appreciated. Liz |
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Hi Brian, thanks for replying.
Your answer was not clear to me, are you saying that I have to use the installer and select only the programs I want to keep, then go through another install? Hmm I did select the programs, one at a time, to uninstall in the installer, it immediately started "copying files" that is not the progress window I expected to see, so I cancelled it, not enough free space to risk it. I tried it with the Office cd, couldn't get anywhere without it. At home the kids have a 95 and a 98, and I have an XP pro I use daily. I don't have Office 2000 Pro on any of them, so I can't really troubleshoot it from here. Here's another thing, his BIOS is dated 1995. I assume that might mean that this was an upgrade from win 95, how can I tell? Would it make a difference as far as whether this version of 98 can run Office 2k? He only had two 98 updates in the add/remove programs list. Shouldn't there be a whole lot more, or aren't they stored there like in XP? What if I rename the app folders to see if it would screw up anything else before just deleting them, then using RegSeeker or RegCleaner to pick out the stuff that's left? Are Office programs too deeply integrated to just delete some of the programs?Even if they are, couldn't I do a repair install on any broken programs that are left, to reinstall missing shared files? Thanks again, Liz "Brian A." wrote: Office installer actually installs/uninstalls. When Office is installed you select what to install, all you need to do is unselect anything you do not want while in the installer. I've never used Off2K but have used Off 95, 97 Pro and now I use XP Pro. IIRC all install/uninstall in the same manner, can't remember if I used the CD with 95 or not. -- Brian A. Conflicts start where information lacks. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz Murphy" wrote in message ... My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or antivirus yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! (how can that be? ... his popup blocker or downloaded toolbars? an external modem firewall that I couldn't find?) So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! I attempted to uninstall some components of MS Office 2000 Pro, namely Access and Powerpoint. The uninstaller in Add/Remove Programs only tries to install. When I select to 'repair or remove components' it will only open up the install wizard. Is there a trick to this? Is it possible the uninstaller is corrupt? When we get it working, since he is using Outlook Express, can we uninstall Outlook, too? I know the programs are fully installed, because they run. Any help would be appreciated. Liz |
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Hi glee, thanks for responding,
The message I got was "choose which programs you want to install" and when I selected one to remove anyway, I got the 'copying files' progress window, so I cancelled. I guess I should have specified that in my first post. Liz "glee" wrote: I don't have office 2000 installed here....I have Office XP....but when you select Repair or Remove Components, and the install wizard starts, you should be able to un-check the components you do not want and then uninstall. There is no "uninstall wizard"....the install wizard is where it is all done, through Office Setup. My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or antivirus yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! Are you quite sure of that? If there is no anti-virus installed, how do you know there are no viruses? I would be surprised if there was no spyware or trojans, especially if he has been installing toolbars. Has he been to Windows Update and installed all the critical updates for Win98? So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! No, actually you need to free up space and NOT install any apps. With only 55MB free space, it is surprising that Windows is running at all. It requires a lot more free space than that just to maintain the swap file. You need to free up quite a lot of space, or get a bigger hard drive, then go to Windows Update for the critical updates. Following that, install an anti-virus and keep it updated frequently....I update daily. There are some free anti-virus apps available.....one is AVG Free Edition: http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php I suggest you do a deeper check for spyware and trojans, along with any possible viruses: Install an anti-virus app, update it, and then run a full-system virus scan. Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...CWShredder.exe http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip Run it with all browser windows and programs closed, and click the Fix button. In addition, install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for Updates' link in the app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it finds. Ad-Awa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/ -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz Murphy" wrote in message ... My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or antivirus yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! (how can that be? ... his popup blocker or downloaded toolbars? an external modem firewall that I couldn't find?) So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! I attempted to uninstall some components of MS Office 2000 Pro, namely Access and Powerpoint. The uninstaller in Add/Remove Programs only tries to install. When I select to 'repair or remove components' it will only open up the install wizard. Is there a trick to this? Is it possible the uninstaller is corrupt? When we get it working, since he is using Outlook Express, can we uninstall Outlook, too? I know the programs are fully installed, because they run. Any help would be appreciated. Liz |
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Replies inline, below:
"Liz Murphy" wrote in message ... Hi Brian, thanks for replying. Your answer was not clear to me, are you saying that I have to use the installer and select only the programs I want to keep, then go through another install? No, you run Office setup and un-select the components you want to remove. See my reply in this thread. I did select the programs, one at a time, to uninstall in the installer, it immediately started "copying files" that is not the progress window I expected to see, so I cancelled it, not enough free space to risk it. I tried it with the Office cd, couldn't get anywhere without it. It will show "copying files" even though it is actually removing them, if you are removing components rather than adding them. That is normal for Office setup....don't cancel. At home the kids have a 95 and a 98, and I have an XP pro I use daily. I don't have Office 2000 Pro on any of them, so I can't really troubleshoot it from here. Here's another thing, his BIOS is dated 1995. I assume that might mean that this was an upgrade from win 95, how can I tell? Would it make a difference as far as whether this version of 98 can run Office 2k? He only had two 98 updates in the add/remove programs list. Shouldn't there be a whole lot more, or aren't they stored there like in XP? All the updates are not added to Add\Remove in Win98, but he likely does not have the system up-to-date. It matters not whether it is an upgrade from Win95 as far as what version of Office is concerned. All that matters is what version of Windows is currently installed. What if I rename the app folders to see if it would screw up anything else before just deleting them, then using RegSeeker or RegCleaner to pick out the stuff that's left? Are Office programs too deeply integrated to just delete some of the programs?Even if they are, couldn't I do a repair install on any broken programs that are left, to reinstall missing shared files? Not a good idea.....office is far too large a suite of apps to handle that way. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm Thanks again, Liz "Brian A." wrote: Office installer actually installs/uninstalls. When Office is installed you select what to install, all you need to do is unselect anything you do not want while in the installer. I've never used Off2K but have used Off 95, 97 Pro and now I use XP Pro. IIRC all install/uninstall in the same manner, can't remember if I used the CD with 95 or not. -- Brian A. Conflicts start where information lacks. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz Murphy" wrote in message ... My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or antivirus yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! (how can that be? ... his popup blocker or downloaded toolbars? an external modem firewall that I couldn't find?) So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! I attempted to uninstall some components of MS Office 2000 Pro, namely Access and Powerpoint. The uninstaller in Add/Remove Programs only tries to install. When I select to 'repair or remove components' it will only open up the install wizard. Is there a trick to this? Is it possible the uninstaller is corrupt? When we get it working, since he is using Outlook Express, can we uninstall Outlook, too? I know the programs are fully installed, because they run. Any help would be appreciated. Liz |
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I have replied to your post under Brian's reply.
You run Office setup, choose the option to remove components, un-select the items you want to remove, click OK, and setup will show the 'copying files' screens....it will actually be removing them if that is the action you performed. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz Murphy" wrote in message ... Hi glee, thanks for responding, The message I got was "choose which programs you want to install" and when I selected one to remove anyway, I got the 'copying files' progress window, so I cancelled. I guess I should have specified that in my first post. Liz "glee" wrote: I don't have office 2000 installed here....I have Office XP....but when you select Repair or Remove Components, and the install wizard starts, you should be able to un-check the components you do not want and then uninstall. There is no "uninstall wizard"....the install wizard is where it is all done, through Office Setup. My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or antivirus yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! Are you quite sure of that? If there is no anti-virus installed, how do you know there are no viruses? I would be surprised if there was no spyware or trojans, especially if he has been installing toolbars. Has he been to Windows Update and installed all the critical updates for Win98? So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! No, actually you need to free up space and NOT install any apps. With only 55MB free space, it is surprising that Windows is running at all. It requires a lot more free space than that just to maintain the swap file. You need to free up quite a lot of space, or get a bigger hard drive, then go to Windows Update for the critical updates. Following that, install an anti-virus and keep it updated frequently....I update daily. There are some free anti-virus apps available.....one is AVG Free Edition: http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php I suggest you do a deeper check for spyware and trojans, along with any possible viruses: Install an anti-virus app, update it, and then run a full-system virus scan. Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...CWShredder.exe http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip Run it with all browser windows and programs closed, and click the Fix button. In addition, install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for Updates' link in the app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it finds. Ad-Awa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/ -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz Murphy" wrote in message ... My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or antivirus yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! (how can that be? ... his popup blocker or downloaded toolbars? an external modem firewall that I couldn't find?) So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! I attempted to uninstall some components of MS Office 2000 Pro, namely Access and Powerpoint. The uninstaller in Add/Remove Programs only tries to install. When I select to 'repair or remove components' it will only open up the install wizard. Is there a trick to this? Is it possible the uninstaller is corrupt? When we get it working, since he is using Outlook Express, can we uninstall Outlook, too? I know the programs are fully installed, because they run. Any help would be appreciated. Liz |
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"glee" wrote in message =
... snip No, you run Office setup and un-select the components you want to = remove. See my reply in this thread. That's the ticket. I went blank on "Setup" or I should have at least = said Install Wizard which is closer. { snip --=20 Brian A. Conflicts start where information lacks. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm |
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Thank you for clarifying that!
Ok, When I select to "repair or remove" I then get the 'select programs to install box' at no point do I have the option to choose between repair and remove, I just assumed it wouldn't wait until after "copying files" was completed to ask which task to perform. I guess that's why I thought it was repairing the program instead of removing it. This is the Office 2k pro installation wizard, the field to the left of the list where you would normally select the programs aren't checkboxes, rather they are dropdown menus for each program. I can't remember exactly what they all said,(one was the option to install on first use, I think) but most of the options didn't make sense to me, (and none of them said remove, or uninstall) and I really do understand computers! So to select them, I clicked the program's name and that selected it. (but it looked like I selected it to install it because the box was called "select programs to install") I have used installation wizards to uninstall programs before, but I've never been confused by them. LOL Tomorrow I will go to his house and try it again, and re-read those dropdown list options again, I wasn't aware "copying files" was an uninstall task. Thanks again! "glee" wrote: Replies inline, below: "Liz Murphy" wrote in message ... Hi Brian, thanks for replying. Your answer was not clear to me, are you saying that I have to use the installer and select only the programs I want to keep, then go through another install? No, you run Office setup and un-select the components you want to remove. See my reply in this thread. I did select the programs, one at a time, to uninstall in the installer, it immediately started "copying files" that is not the progress window I expected to see, so I cancelled it, not enough free space to risk it. I tried it with the Office cd, couldn't get anywhere without it. It will show "copying files" even though it is actually removing them, if you are removing components rather than adding them. That is normal for Office setup....don't cancel. At home the kids have a 95 and a 98, and I have an XP pro I use daily. I don't have Office 2000 Pro on any of them, so I can't really troubleshoot it from here. Here's another thing, his BIOS is dated 1995. I assume that might mean that this was an upgrade from win 95, how can I tell? Would it make a difference as far as whether this version of 98 can run Office 2k? He only had two 98 updates in the add/remove programs list. Shouldn't there be a whole lot more, or aren't they stored there like in XP? All the updates are not added to Add\Remove in Win98, but he likely does not have the system up-to-date. It matters not whether it is an upgrade from Win95 as far as what version of Office is concerned. All that matters is what version of Windows is currently installed. What if I rename the app folders to see if it would screw up anything else before just deleting them, then using RegSeeker or RegCleaner to pick out the stuff that's left? Are Office programs too deeply integrated to just delete some of the programs?Even if they are, couldn't I do a repair install on any broken programs that are left, to reinstall missing shared files? Not a good idea.....office is far too large a suite of apps to handle that way. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm Thanks again, Liz "Brian A." wrote: Office installer actually installs/uninstalls. When Office is installed you select what to install, all you need to do is unselect anything you do not want while in the installer. I've never used Off2K but have used Off 95, 97 Pro and now I use XP Pro. IIRC all install/uninstall in the same manner, can't remember if I used the CD with 95 or not. -- Brian A. Conflicts start where information lacks. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz Murphy" wrote in message ... My nephew's computer runs win 98, 1gb HD, 55mb free, no firewall or antivirus yet, and surprisingly no viruses after ten months on dialup! (how can that be? ... his popup blocker or downloaded toolbars? an external modem firewall that I couldn't find?) So we need to free up space to install apps. ASAP! I attempted to uninstall some components of MS Office 2000 Pro, namely Access and Powerpoint. The uninstaller in Add/Remove Programs only tries to install. When I select to 'repair or remove components' it will only open up the install wizard. Is there a trick to this? Is it possible the uninstaller is corrupt? When we get it working, since he is using Outlook Express, can we uninstall Outlook, too? I know the programs are fully installed, because they run. Any help would be appreciated. Liz |
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 18:29:02 -0700, "Liz Murphy"
Your broader (implied) question is: How to free HD space. To do that, do this - in this order: 0) Check file system for errors Windows Explorer Rt-click C:, Properties, Tools Check disk for errors (i.e. running Scandisk) 1) Clear web browser caches Internet Explorer; Tools, (Internet) Options General tab, Delete Files in the middle section Other web browsers (Netscape, Opera, Mozilla) have their own web caches, and ways of clearing them and reducing size, as next... 2) Limit web browser cache size Internet Explorer; Tools, (Internet) Options General tab, Settings... in the middle section Set that from whatever crazy bloatware default is there, down to 10M tops. The cache will refill up to limit set, so set low for space. 3) Clear Temp and Spool files After a fresh Windows start, Windows Explorer and navigate into the OS subtree (typically C:\WINDOWS). Find Temp and go in there, and delete selectively, holding down Shift key throughout this process (else files aren't deleted but transferred to Recycle Bin, no space saved). What to delete: - any files ending in .TMP - any files starting with ~ - any .TXT, .HTM etc. - in fact, you can delete all loose files there - any yellow folders with random-looking names Still in Windows Explorer and the OS subtree, go into "spool" and, within that, Printers and Fax. Delete everything in those folders; there won't usually be much. 4) Repeat steps (1-3) for each user profile It's possible to set up "user profiles" in Win9x so that each user has duplicated temp, web cache, etc. and that obviously wastes a lot of space. This is mandatory in XP. In Win9x, this material can be cleaned from these accounts; it will be stored within "Profiles" within the OS subtree, possibly with Temp under "Local Settings". 5) Review and clear Recycle Bin 6) Review and purge email Trash Until you do (5) and (6), don't begin to get free space back. 7) Uninstall unwanted apps Last resort; don't worry if free space is OK by now. You should always use Control Panel, Add/Remove programs to uninstall apps, for a number of reasons; the most relevant here is that this is the only safe way to free space within the OS subtree these apps may consume. 8) Delete unneeded .HLP, .WAV, .BMP This is really desperate stuff! If no sound card, can delete all ..WAV, and wallpaper .BMP too. The Help dir in the OS subtree can contain a lot of .HLP files, as well as videos that may be quite large, so you can clear those too. Remember to hold down Shift to avoid Recycle Bin, or clear that afterwards. 9) Compact mail Now that you have the max space free, it's less dangerous to compact mailboxes (can fail if low free space). Mailboxes don't regain space when messages are deleted until they are "compacted", i.e. space freed and indexes re-generated. 10) Defrag file system Now that the system's settled down, you can consolidate your free space to the end of the volume for performance. You could do this step before (9); I usually do. Note that defragging doesn't free up more space; it just lets you use the same free space more efficiently. Your answer was not clear to me, are you saying that I have to use the installer and select only the programs I want to keep Yep then go through another install? Nope. What's supposed to happen is that when you OK your way out, it will add what's checked that wasn't before, and remove what was checked but is no longer checked now. I did select the programs, one at a time, to uninstall in the installer, it immediately started "copying files" that is not the progress window I expected to see, so I cancelled it, not enough free space to risk it. I tried it with the Office cd, couldn't get anywhere without it. Don't cancel the process, you may be left in an "undefined" state Here's another thing, his BIOS is dated 1995. I assume that might mean that this was an upgrade from win 95, how can I tell? BIOS is system-level, and unrelated to any Operating System such as Windows. It's like the wheels on your car; they say nothing about whatever tyres are on them other than limiting possible tyres to those compatible with the hardware (wheel size). What if I rename the app folders to see if it would screw up anything else before just deleting them, then using RegSeeker or RegCleaner to pick out the stuff that's left? Don't do that. Are Office programs too deeply integrated to just delete some of the programs? Definitely. This is about hte worst case of how MS embeds "applications' into system territory - you'd leave huge wads of bloat in the OS subtree and registry if you did that. Bad, bad, bad. -------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - No, perfection is not an entrance requirement. We'll settle for integrity and humility -------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - |
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