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Are there drivers for TFT screen under WinME/Win)8 a
"Sparda" wrote in message news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com... "all actually need drivers" No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a standerdized signel, the operating system just "tells" the graphics card what to show, it proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as a standared single (this applies for both RGB and DVI). .....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does?? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's |
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Are there drivers for TFT screen under WinME/Win
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"Sparda" wrote in message news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com... "all actually need drivers" No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a standerdized signel, the operating system just "tells" the graphics card what to show, it proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as a standared single (this applies for both RGB and DVI). .....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does?? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's I think a device driver controls a device, which is true for nearly all devices, one of these exceptions is of coures the monitor, which dosnt need a driver, becasue it is upto the monitor to detect what resoluton, depth and refrash rate the graphics card is displaying at, and the graphics card outputs a standared signel hence needs no driver, as it operates nearly totaly indipendant of the rest of the computer, the only thing it depends upon is a signle that it recognises. Modern monitors of course support plug and play, which means that it will (or at least atempt) to tell the operating system what resolutions it is capable of. Please take a note from the Linux handbook, when configuring X (the GUI system for unix based OSs) you don’t install a monitor driver, becasue monitors don’t need or requier drivers, you do how ever specifie lots of details about the monitor so that X is configured to display properly, of course there have been huge lists of diffrent monitors and there vendors put together to make configuration easyer but they are not drivers, just configuration files. |
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Are there drivers for TFT screen under WinME/Win
Aaah! - the old 'special exceptions' clause, when ever it involves the
subject at hand...... I rest my case. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Sparda" wrote in message news:1459508_51412964ec131c104dc2b1890b018b76@wind owsforumz.com... "" wrote: "Sparda" wrote in message news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com... "all actually need drivers" No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a standerdized signel, the operating system just "tells" the graphics card what to show, it proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as a standared single (this applies for both RGB and DVI). .....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does?? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's I think a device driver controls a device, which is true for nearly all devices, one of these exceptions is of coures the monitor, which dosnt need a driver, becasue it is upto the monitor to detect what resoluton, depth and refrash rate the graphics card is displaying at, and the graphics card outputs a standared signel hence needs no driver, as it operates nearly totaly indipendant of the rest of the computer, the only thing it depends upon is a signle that it recognises. Modern monitors of course support plug and play, which means that it will (or at least atempt) to tell the operating system what resolutions it is capable of. Please take a note from the Linux handbook, when configuring X (the GUI system for unix based OSs) you don’t install a monitor driver, becasue monitors don’t need or requier drivers, you do how ever specifie lots of details about the monitor so that X is configured to display properly, of course there have been huge lists of diffrent monitors and there vendors put together to make configuration easyer but they are not drivers, just configuration files. |
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Are there drivers for TFT screen under WinME
"" wrote:
Aaah! - the old 'special exceptions' clause, when ever it involves the subject at hand...... I rest my case. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Sparda" wrote in message news:1459508_51412964ec131c104dc2b1890b018b76@wind owsforumz.com... "" wrote: "Sparda" wrote in message news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com... "all actually need drivers" No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a standerdized signel, the operating system just "tells" the graphics card what to show, it proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as a standared single (this applies for both RGB and DVI). .....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does?? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's I think a device driver controls a device, which is true for nearly all devices, one of these exceptions is of coures the monitor, which dosnt need a driver, becasue it is upto the monitor to detect what resoluton, depth and refrash rate the graphics card is displaying at, and the graphics card outputs a standared signel hence needs no driver, as it operates nearly totaly indipendant of the rest of the computer, the only thing it depends upon is a signle that it recognises. Modern monitors of course support plug and play, which means that it will (or at least atempt) to tell the operating system what resolutions it is capable of. Please take a note from the Linux handbook, when configuring X (the GUI system for unix based OSs) you don’t install a monitor driver, becasue monitors don’t need or requier drivers, you do how ever specifie lots of details about the monitor so that X is configured to display properly, of course there have been huge lists of diffrent monitors and there vendors put together to make configuration easyer but they are not drivers, just configuration files. Are you surgesting speakers need drivers? |
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Are there drivers for TFT screen under WinME/Win)8 available ?
Gunter: You may want to try this: Open Drivers - Free Download Fujitsu Device Driver Downloads. If your eyeballed model is of a different make, go to the corresponding website. Harry. "Gunter Hansen" wrote in message ... I am thinking about to buy a TFT screen for an older PC on which a WinME resp. Win98 is running. Are there drivers available for these old WinOS? Or is the minimum Win2000 required to use TFT screens ? Gunter |
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Are there drivers for TFT screen under WinME
"Sparda" wrote in message
news:1459903_dda245b31d2223fc60b87691ec8fca17@wind owsforumz.com "" wrote: Aaah! - the old 'special exceptions' clause, when ever it involves the subject at hand...... I rest my case. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Sparda" wrote in message news:1459508_51412964ec131c104dc2b1890b018b76@wind owsforumz.com... "" wrote: "Sparda" wrote in message news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com... "all actually need drivers" No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a standerdized signel, the operating system just "tells" the graphics card what to show, it proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as a standared single (this applies for both RGB and DVI). .....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does?? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's I think a device driver controls a device, which is true for nearly all devices, one of these exceptions is of coures the monitor, which dosnt need a driver, becasue it is upto the monitor to detect what resoluton, depth and refrash rate the graphics card is displaying at, and the graphics card outputs a standared signel hence needs no driver, as it operates nearly totaly indipendant of the rest of the computer, the only thing it depends upon is a signle that it recognises. Modern monitors of course support plug and play, which means that it will (or at least atempt) to tell the operating system what resolutions it is capable of. Please take a note from the Linux handbook, when configuring X (the GUI system for unix based OSs) you don’t install a monitor driver, becasue monitors don’t need or requier drivers, you do how ever specifie lots of details about the monitor so that X is configured to display properly, of course there have been huge lists of diffrent monitors and there vendors put together to make configuration easyer but they are not drivers, just configuration files. Are you surgesting speakers need drivers? What the heck do you think a sound card is? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's |
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Are there drivers for TFT screen under W
"" wrote:
"Sparda" wrote in message news:1459903_dda245b31d2223fc60b87691ec8fca17@wind owsforumz.com "" wrote: Aaah! - the old 'special exceptions' clause, when ever it involves the subject at hand...... I rest my case. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Sparda" wrote in message news:1459508_51412964ec131c104dc2b1890b018b76@wind owsforumz.com... "" wrote: "Sparda" wrote in message news:1458179_0b680631014eb0c671138f5a03d35fb7@wind owsforumz.com... "all actually need drivers" No they don’t, the graphics card out puts a standerdized signel, the operating system just "tells" the graphics card what to show, it proccess what is to be displayed, and out puts it as a standared single (this applies for both RGB and DVI). .....and what the heck do you think a Driver is/does?? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's I think a device driver controls a device, which is true for nearly all devices, one of these exceptions is of coures the monitor, which dosnt need a driver, becasue it is upto the monitor to detect what resoluton, depth and refrash rate the graphics card is displaying at, and the graphics card outputs a standared signel hence needs no driver, as it operates nearly totaly indipendant of the rest of the computer, the only thing it depends upon is a signle that it recognises. Modern monitors of course support plug and play, which means that it will (or at least atempt) to tell the operating system what resolutions it is capable of. Please take a note from the Linux handbook, when configuring X (the GUI system for unix based OSs) you don’t install a monitor driver, becasue monitors don’t need or requier drivers, you do how ever specifie lots of details about the monitor so that X is configured to display properly, of course there have been huge lists of diffrent monitors and there vendors put together to make configuration easyer but they are not drivers, just configuration files. Are you surgesting speakers need drivers? What the heck do you think a sound card is? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's I know what a sound card is, my point is that speakers don’t need drivers full stop bececasue they do not interact with other hardware of the PC except the sound card, and then they only recive the signel. This is how it is with non plug-and-play monitors, monitors when used with a PC running windows only "need" drivers becasue windows says they must. In reality, they don’t need drivers at all, the operating system just needs to know the correct specifications of the monitor, and windows gets this information using windows drivers. Natruly with plug-and-play monitors the OS will usualy automaticly detect what monitor it is, and then use a configuration list to look up what the monitors correct configuration is. If , however, the monitor found dosn’t have a matching modle/vendor etc., or the monitor is not plug and play complient, then most OSs (including windows) will display using a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard]Computer display standard but the user can change that at there descretion (and at they’er own risk). |
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Are there drivers for TFT screen under W
"Sparda" wrote in message news:1460976_79a64439419e8da8012a150cd04a1432@wind owsforumz.com I know what a sound card is, my point is that speakers don’t need drivers full stop bececasue they do not interact with other hardware of the PC except the sound card, and then they only recive the signel. This is how it is with non plug-and-play monitors, monitors when used with a PC running windows only "need" drivers becasue windows says they must. In reality, they don’t need drivers at all, the operating system just needs to know the correct specifications of the monitor, and windows gets this information using windows drivers. Natruly with plug-and-play monitors the OS will usualy automaticly detect what monitor it is, and then use a configuration list to look up what the monitors correct configuration is. If , however, the monitor found dosn’t have a matching modle/vendor etc., or the monitor is not plug and play complient, then most OSs (including windows) will display using a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard]Computer display standard but the user can change that at there descretion (and at they’er own risk). You have it arse-about-face, I'm afraid . ALL hardware attached to a PC needs drivers - otherwise the PC has no idea what to do. The drivers may be embedded within the OS, or within other devices, but they are there. The drivers for a normal speaker set are the D-A convertors embedded within the soundcard (and its drivers) - those for a true digital speaker system are Windows (or whatever) based (or again, wihtin the soundcard drivers). Windows installs DEFAULT drivers in the absence of any others - which is what allows your old VGA montor to work on your brand new PCI-x card, as well as the wonderful 42" HD plasma screen that you also installed. Have you ever run a system with no soundcard and tried to use speakers? doesn't work very well, does it?? Even the inbuilt System Speaker (the thing that may 'beep' on startup) needs a driver - but that's usually provided by the BIOS. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's |
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Are there drivers for TFT screen und
"" wrote:
"Sparda" wrote in message news:1460976_79a64439419e8da8012a150cd04a1432@wind owsforumz.com I know what a sound card is, my point is that speakers don’t need drivers full stop bececasue they do not interact with other hardware of the PC except the sound card, and then they only recive the signel. This is how it is with non plug-and-play monitors, monitors when used with a PC running windows only "need" drivers becasue windows says they must. In reality, they don’t need drivers at all, the operating system just needs to know the correct specifications of the monitor, and windows gets this information using windows drivers. Natruly with plug-and-play monitors the OS will usualy automaticly detect what monitor it is, and then use a configuration list to look up what the monitors correct configuration is. If , however, the monitor found dosn’t have a matching modle/vendor etc., or the monitor is not plug and play complient, then most OSs (including windows) will display using a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard]Computer display standard but the user can change that at there descretion (and at they’er own risk). You have it arse-about-face, I'm afraid . ALL hardware attached to a PC needs drivers - otherwise the PC has no idea what to do. The drivers may be embedded within the OS, or within other devices, but they are there. The drivers for a normal speaker set are the D-A convertors embedded within the soundcard (and its drivers) - those for a true digital speaker system are Windows (or whatever) based (or again, wihtin the soundcard drivers). Windows installs DEFAULT drivers in the absence of any others - which is what allows your old VGA montor to work on your brand new PCI-x card, as well as the wonderful 42" HD plasma screen that you also installed. Have you ever run a system with no soundcard and tried to use speakers? doesn't work very well, does it?? Even the inbuilt System Speaker (the thing that may 'beep' on startup) needs a driver - but that's usually provided by the BIOS. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ALL hardware attached to a PC needs drivers" Power Supplies need drivers? Speakers need drivers? Monitors need drivers? The case needs a driver? A network switchs/HUBs needs a driver? A router needs a driver? (Not including USB routers/modems) Inernal cooling fans need drivers? A stereo (a all in one, amplifire, tape player, cd player, radio with aux in that is) plugged into the sound card needs drivers? I think you will find there is quite a bit of hardware that dosn’t requier a driver of any nature (including the monitor). What have you got to say now? |
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