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After June?
| I heard a 3.11 WFW thrashing about a little while back ...so 98 should be
| good for another 10+ years : Yow! Good, goooood! Maybe we are immortal, then! -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Haggis" wrote in message ... | | | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | I HOPE you keep those computers in separate bedrooms! But, right, I THOUGHT | I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die first! | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "Don/Gen" wrote in message | ... | | PCR, | | | | I have a Win95 with AVG Free on board that I keep up to date and use as a | | back-up to my Win98se! If all else fails, my wife's laptop with XP can | | always be used :-) | | | | Don | | | | "PCR" wrote in message | | ... | | If you are careful with your Internet use &/or get a good virus checker & | | firewall, you will be fine, I think, to stick with Win98 until the day it | | crumbles to dust. Some have reportedly seen EVEN Win95 people still alive | | today! One/two may even have posted to this NG. I STILL haven't heard a | peep | | out of McAfee that a virus has ever tried to infiltrate me. Kerio Personal | | Firewall has spoken up plenty, but I think I've got it's rules set fine | now. | | | | JUST, when all is going well, do make one full system backup, & protect it | | well. After that, keep another backup on a monthly basis. If ever the | | monthly one should become flawed or infected, go to the one that you know | is | | good. | | | | Would you like my list of full system backup apps? | | | | | | -- | | Thanks or Good Luck, | | There may be humor in this post, and, | | Naturally, you will not sue, | | should things get worse after this, | | PCR | | | | "Elizabeth" wrote in message | | ... | | | I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has. | | | | | | After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security | | | updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I | | | need a new operating system? Is there any recourse? | | | | | | Beth | | | | | | I heard a 3.11 WFW thrashing about a little while back ...so 98 should be | good for another 10+ years : | | |
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After June?
will the low end version of Vista run on my low end pc?
-- - Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de spybot http://security.kolla.de AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com Panda online AntiSpyware Scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/ Catalog of removal tools (1) http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/ Catalog of removal tools (2) http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387 Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/ Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters _ "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... The cycle has been greatly stretched over the last few years. There was a new desktop/workstation OS release coming out almost every year between 95 and 2001, with only two service packs since then (though there's been lots of activity on the server side.) My guess is that Vista *might* debut this year, but more likely next. Just based upon history, I probably wouldn't want it on a production machine before ~2008/09. However, the paradigm may be changing, and Vista may solve enough of the security issues that are inherent in WinXP to make it more attractive at an earlier date. Hard for me to say, since I've not been able to participate in betas (lack of time and hardware.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User "Jonny" wrote in message ... Been watching MS's behavior since 95. The pattern seems to be release the new OS to the public market. Followed by bug fixes over a 1-2 year period in general. Jump on the new OS bandwagon around the end of that period seems smartest thing to do, in my opinion. Especially if a service pack(s) which changes some of the base OS system files is involved. -- Jonny "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Windows 98 is already a bit crippled when it comes to protective applications -- the ones that keep you safe while surfing the internet. That situation is going to get worse as time goes by, and I expect that by sometime next year very few modern protective applications will support Win9x systems at all. This is important because the internet and the associated applications (functional or protective) are where the major advancements in technology are occurring on a daily or weekly basis, and as they outgrow Win9x, you will get less functionality and almost *no* decent safety for that platform. The only real effect the June date has is that any further security issues that are subsequently discovered, whether in Windows Media Player, Internet Explorer, or in the core operating files, will not be fixed. But the obsolescence of Win9x is already a fact, one that is only going to get worse as the months pass. I strongly recommend that 9x users cease to spend *any* more money on their systems and instead buy a new one. And, no, I would not recommend waiting until Windows Vista is ready for market. I don't think that's going to be soon enough. Get a good machine now and then upgrade to Vista if and when it becomes attractive. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User "Elizabeth" wrote in message ... I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has. After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I need a new operating system? Is there any recourse? Beth |
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After June?
My guess: No. But I have no idea what you mean by "low end version", and
"low end PC" is a relative term. I assume that if the system will run XP more or less decently, it should be OK with Vista, too. But as I said, I haven't been able to play with it. I loaded it once on my only "high end" system, a 2GHz w/ 2GB RAM, clocked back to 133 MHz FSB from 166, and it seemed to work OK, but that was a very early version of Vista and I didn't get much time on it before I broke that mobo. Been stuck with very low-end hardware since then. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User "AlmostBob" wrote in message ... will the low end version of Vista run on my low end pc? |
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After June?
I've been fine for years just backing up my files. I have all the
installation disks for my programs and for Windows. I've had to use them twice, and it really wasn't too awful, just a pain in the neck . Thanks. Beth On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 19:33:23 -0500, "PCR" wrote: If you are careful with your Internet use &/or get a good virus checker & firewall, you will be fine, I think, to stick with Win98 until the day it crumbles to dust. Some have reportedly seen EVEN Win95 people still alive today! One/two may even have posted to this NG. I STILL haven't heard a peep out of McAfee that a virus has ever tried to infiltrate me. Kerio Personal Firewall has spoken up plenty, but I think I've got it's rules set fine now. JUST, when all is going well, do make one full system backup, & protect it well. After that, keep another backup on a monthly basis. If ever the monthly one should become flawed or infected, go to the one that you know is good. Would you like my list of full system backup apps? |
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After June?
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:44 -0500, "PCR" wrote:
I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die first! My sister-in-law and brother-in-law still use Windows 3.1! It does everything they need, so they never switched, which is exactly how I'd like to be about Windows 98. Beth |
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After June?
I have to admit, I love old goodies, but I just can't go back to Win 3.1,
and those damn 8.3 filenames for everything. (I can accept that in DOS, but that's about it). So I guess I have moved slightly forward. :-) But I'm still stickin with WMP 6.4. You can have WMP 7 and 9. (Thanks, but no thanks)! Elizabeth wrote: On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:44 -0500, "PCR" wrote: I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die first! My sister-in-law and brother-in-law still use Windows 3.1! It does everything they need, so they never switched, which is exactly how I'd like to be about Windows 98. Beth |
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After June?
If you have no need for modern internet browsing, and your applications
demands are minimal, Windows 3.1, 95, and/or 98/98SE/ME will do just fine. But I certainly wouldn't want to do the typically things that are expected of a modern computer -- internet browsing, online banking, purchasing, etc. -- using such a dinosaur. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User "Elizabeth" wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:44 -0500, "PCR" wrote: I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die first! My sister-in-law and brother-in-law still use Windows 3.1! It does everything they need, so they never switched, which is exactly how I'd like to be about Windows 98. Beth |
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After June?
I do all that - and more, with Win98SE. There is NO problem.
Gary S. Terhune wrote: If you have no need for modern internet browsing, and your applications demands are minimal, Windows 3.1, 95, and/or 98/98SE/ME will do just fine. But I certainly wouldn't want to do the typically things that are expected of a modern computer -- internet browsing, online banking, purchasing, etc. -- using such a dinosaur. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User "Elizabeth" wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:44 -0500, "PCR" wrote: I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die first! My sister-in-law and brother-in-law still use Windows 3.1! It does everything they need, so they never switched, which is exactly how I'd like to be about Windows 98. Beth |
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After June?
we all do, NOW, but I think that GST is saying that after june without
support, it will become more and more unsafe, and harder to repair when you do get bombed -- - Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de spybot http://security.kolla.de AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com Panda online AntiSpyware Scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/ Catalog of removal tools (1) http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/ Catalog of removal tools (2) http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387 Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/ Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters _ "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... I do all that - and more, with Win98SE. There is NO problem. Gary S. Terhune wrote: If you have no need for modern internet browsing, and your applications demands are minimal, Windows 3.1, 95, and/or 98/98SE/ME will do just fine. But I certainly wouldn't want to do the typically things that are expected of a modern computer -- internet browsing, online banking, purchasing, etc. -- using such a dinosaur. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User "Elizabeth" wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:44 -0500, "PCR" wrote: I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die first! My sister-in-law and brother-in-law still use Windows 3.1! It does everything they need, so they never switched, which is exactly how I'd like to be about Windows 98. Beth |
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