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Old September 9th 08, 09:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
OR
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Default defrag

I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it
starts all over again. Never finishes.
Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out
there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?
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øivind reinemo



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Old September 9th 08, 10:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Mart
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Default defrag

First, try running defrag in Safe Mode. You'll probably find it works OK.

If it runs ok in Safe Mode, then in all probability, you have some
background program/utility running in Normal Mode and you should take a look
at ScanDefrag v5.5

This is a FREE utility, written by several well respected contributors to
these News Groups and has been designed to run several original MS utilities
through a 'filter' which eliminates the usual junk which stops Defrag (and
Scandisk) from running properly in Normal Mode - as you are already
experiencing.

You can get ScanDefrag at either of the two sites below - and be sure to
read the associated notes for setting it up:
http://home.earthlink.net/~bblanton2...efrag/main.htm
http://www.blueorbsoft.com/scandefrag/index.html

Good luck

Mart



"OR" wrote in message
...
I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it
starts all over again. Never finishes.
Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out
there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?
--
-----------------------------------------------------
øivind reinemo





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Old September 9th 08, 11:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
dave
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Default defrag

grab the defrag utility for winME, (google for it) and swap it for your 98 one.
you will find it (usually) in 'c/windows' folder......
cut the 98 version from c/windows and plonk it in a temp folder prior to putting in the new ME
version.... you wont regret doing it. (reboot after doing this.)

also, delete the folder 'c/windows/APPLOG folder prior to running new defrag proggy.
also(2), make sure No other applications are running whilst defragging... once done, reboot and do
it again; and if you have a h/d with separate partitions, then do them one at a time. (Do Not
run it on any partition that has an NTFS on it... ie, if you are dual booting with 'xp' or etc
which resides on a partition on the same h/d)

davo

"OR" wrote in message ...
I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it
starts all over again. Never finishes.
Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out
there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?
--
-----------------------------------------------------
øivind reinemo





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Old September 9th 08, 12:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
glee
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Default defrag

"OR" wrote in message
...
I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it
starts all over again. Never finishes.
Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out
there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?


Have a look here, by MS MVP Ron Badour:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/scandisk.html
and
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/defrag.html

When you open Defragmenter, first click the Settings button, and un-select the
option to re-arrange/optimize files, and save the setting for use every time you run
Defrag.

One simple workaround is to start in Safe Mode, and then run Defrag from there.

Here's a utility to automate it for you:
ScanDefrag
http://www.blueorbsoft.com/scandefrag/

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

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Old September 9th 08, 03:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Default defrag

Disk Defragmenter May Seem to Stop Responding:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/136836

Tip: Run Disk Cleanup before Defrag; Don't *touch* the machine until the
Drag session ends (may take 8-12 hours or more).

Also see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/186978
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


OR wrote:
I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it
starts all over again. Never finishes.
Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out
there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?


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Old September 9th 08, 10:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Angel
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"OR" wrote in message
...
: I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it
: starts all over again. Never finishes.
: Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out
: there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?
: --
: -----------------------------------------------------
: øivind reinemo

Hi OR,

: I will tell one of the things that cause this is: Having other programs
running in the background. Such as, a Screen Saver, other programs too. I
will tell you what I do, first disconnect from the Internet, set your Screen
Saver to (none). Go into msconfig by going to Start Runtype in msconfig
then click on OK, find the Startup tab at top, click on that then write down
everything you have checked there on a piece of paper, so when you start up
your machine after defrag, you have a list of what to put in the start up
after the defrag. Then restart the machine. Check to see if you have
anything there checked. If not, do your defrag. After defrag is complete, go
back to the msconfig and check the things you had unchecked. then restart
your machine. Reconnect to the Internet. If you want, you can set up your
Screen Saver again. This has always worked for me. I hope this helps.

Angel
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Old September 10th 08, 02:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Default defrag

OR, I would follow Glen, Robear and Angel's advice. The problem with using
the Windows ME defragger is that it is not necessarily meant for Windows 98
Second Edition and while it may work fine at first, it just may cause more
problems later on but even if it does not cause any problems there are other
reasons for not using it. I would consider whether or not there are legal
issues with Microsoft on using their Windows ME defragger on Windows 98
Second Edition and I am just {shocked} that dave "a so-called Christian" from
what I gathered from another post would even consider doing something that
might be remotely illegal and I think that dave has not considered what the
so called "Higher Power" might do in this situation if dave continues to
blaze along the trail that dave is moving towards in this life.

"OR" wrote:

I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it
starts all over again. Never finishes.
Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out
there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?
--
-----------------------------------------------------
øivind reinemo




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Old September 10th 08, 04:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Buffalo
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Default defrag



Dan wrote:
OR, I would follow Glen, Robear and Angel's advice. The problem with
using the Windows ME defragger is that it is not necessarily meant
for Windows 98 Second Edition and while it may work fine at first, it
just may cause more problems later on but even if it does not cause
any problems there are other reasons for not using it. I would
consider whether or not there are legal issues with Microsoft on
using their Windows ME defragger on Windows 98 Second Edition and I
am just {shocked} that dave "a so-called Christian" from what I
gathered from another post would even consider doing something that
might be remotely illegal and I think that dave has not considered
what the so called "Higher Power" might do in this situation if dave
continues to blaze along the trail that dave is moving towards in
this life.

Dan, why don't you personally call MS and find out before you start your
'holier than thou' preaching.

PS: I have yet to read in a NG where ME defrag caused a problem in Win98SE
because it wasn't designed for it.


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Old September 10th 08, 08:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Default defrag

Point Noted, Buffalo but you will see dave insulted Gary S. Terhune as well
in another thread.

"Buffalo" wrote:



Dan wrote:
OR, I would follow Glen, Robear and Angel's advice. The problem with
using the Windows ME defragger is that it is not necessarily meant
for Windows 98 Second Edition and while it may work fine at first, it
just may cause more problems later on but even if it does not cause
any problems there are other reasons for not using it. I would
consider whether or not there are legal issues with Microsoft on
using their Windows ME defragger on Windows 98 Second Edition and I
am just {shocked} that dave "a so-called Christian" from what I
gathered from another post would even consider doing something that
might be remotely illegal and I think that dave has not considered
what the so called "Higher Power" might do in this situation if dave
continues to blaze along the trail that dave is moving towards in
this life.

Dan, why don't you personally call MS and find out before you start your
'holier than thou' preaching.

PS: I have yet to read in a NG where ME defrag caused a problem in Win98SE
because it wasn't designed for it.



  #10  
Old September 10th 08, 08:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Default defrag

Buffalo, I was also wondering if it was legal to use the Windows ME defragger
with Windows 98 Second Edition or is it necessary from a legal standpoint to
get Microsoft's permission? Thank you for the correction, as well. It
always stings and hurts but I certainly do appreciate it in the end. smile

"Buffalo" wrote:



Dan wrote:
OR, I would follow Glen, Robear and Angel's advice. The problem with
using the Windows ME defragger is that it is not necessarily meant
for Windows 98 Second Edition and while it may work fine at first, it
just may cause more problems later on but even if it does not cause
any problems there are other reasons for not using it. I would
consider whether or not there are legal issues with Microsoft on
using their Windows ME defragger on Windows 98 Second Edition and I
am just {shocked} that dave "a so-called Christian" from what I
gathered from another post would even consider doing something that
might be remotely illegal and I think that dave has not considered
what the so called "Higher Power" might do in this situation if dave
continues to blaze along the trail that dave is moving towards in
this life.

Dan, why don't you personally call MS and find out before you start your
'holier than thou' preaching.

PS: I have yet to read in a NG where ME defrag caused a problem in Win98SE
because it wasn't designed for it.



 




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