USA and Canada

"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
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Hi all:Heater,Joan, Alias, David H. Lipman, Heirloom, John John, Mike M,
Noel, Richard, Ron, westster72n, not to forget sced13ri and others.

Dont want to revive this saga: 136 posts on a question! As usual when
coming back after a few days, I keep up to date with this group, by now
the
only one that I find convivial, fun, and amusing...and was quite surprise
to
find a philophical logic question asked in such a matter, unless the op
dont
realize it??
What he is asking: Does anything follow from a contradiction?
Unless
he has a very sound knowledge in logic, he is in the wrong forum; I would
suggest he looks into: Does anything follow from a contradiction? in:
http://forums.philosophyforums.com/thread/17213 the first two answers will
suffice.
I find he is not the type to ask such a question, he has some
traits
not compatible with the situation: "champion", keeper of the only truth,
childish manners, etc.
Lets all go back to "our" forum group.

I find that to be a good idea under the circumstances, Paul.
We are, because we are thinking, that guy thinks he is thinking, while he
should go back to the drawingboard and start from scratch, because he missed
sooo much along the way.
Best to pay no attention to his argumentation.

Harry, who likes to think he is, but what ?.

Regards to all Paul



--
cogito ergo sum


"Heather" wrote:

There is no saving of this troll, I am sorry to say, Father Richard. He
consorts with evil beings and is far too thick to even comprehend your
wisdom. Telling the truth is something he is totally unable to do, as
well.

Sister Mary 8-((

I said I would not participate further in this downward spiral, but, I went
back a read the entire thread and came to some enlightening conclusions.
First off, Mr. Harper seems to be one of the few (if not the only one) that
shed a little light into this black hole of bickering. I found comments
that I agree with, disagree with, have severe doubts about and some that are
blatantly insane. Where is this going?......nowhere, fast. Everyone should
go back to Richard's post of 12/17 at 5:28AM and read it carefully....then
think about it (this may take longer for some).....then heed the message.

The world is a parade and it is this "I am the only one in step, the rest of
the world is wrong" attitude that is overwhelming lucidity. C'mon
folks.....I don't like my country (US of A) or my home state (Texas) being
bashed, any more than I like hearing other countries/people being bashed. I
care not if you are in Canada, Britain, Australia, U.S.A., Africa, NZ,
wherever!....look around you, is it perfect? No. Are we all on the same
'big blue ball'?..........YES! It's almost Christmas, for Christ's sake,
cool it!
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good plonk
Heirloom, old and going back to see if I can
help someone

"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
...

Lets all go back to "our" forum group...
Regards to all Paul

--
cogito ergo sum

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Sugien wrote:
Either you code is encrypted or not Morse; because there is NO dah dah dit
as in your second word after S U(your first word being *dear*). there is a
dit dit dah; but NO dah dah dit in the Morse code
Maybe you should go here and brush up:
http://library.thinkquest.org/J00115.../morsecode.htm
Well unless you are using some unknown Morse code:

International Morse Code A .- U ..- B -... V ...-
C -.-. W .-- D -.. X -..- E . Y -.--
Z --.. F ..-. G --. 0 ----- H .... 1 .---- I
.. 2 ..--- J .--- 3 ...-- 4 ....-
K -.- 5 ..... L .-.. 6 -.... M -- 7 --...
N -. 8 ---.. O --- 9 ----. P .--. Period
.-.-.- Q --.- Comma --..-- R .-. ? Mark ..--.. S
... Hyphen -....- T - Apostrophe .----.
Colon ---... U ..- Quotation .-..-. V ...-
ash -..-. W .-- @ sign .--.-. X -..- Y -.--
--..but as you can see there is NO dah dah dit, and seeing that the first
word comes out okI can only guess you did that to try and lure someone into
trying to decode crap."John John" wrote in message
...

-.. . .- .-. / ... ..- --. .. . -. .-.-.- / .--. .-.. . .- ... . / ..-.
..- -.-. -.- / --- ..-. ..-. .-.-.- / -.-- --- ..- .----. .-. . / .- -. /
.. -- -... . -.-. .. .-.. . .-.-.- / .-. . --. .- .-. -.. ... / .---
--- .... -. .-.-.- / -- . .-. .-. -.-- / -.-. .... .-. .. ... - -- .- ...

Sugien wrote:


"Heather" wrote in message
...


"Sugien" wrote nothing of interest in message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
.. .


The only reason that the Yanks got there first was political - and they
were three days late!! (as usual) - and everyone had to wait for them.
Read the history that's written in books - not th stuff in the comics
you seem to be using for source material!

Now I'll set that plonk

Joining you in that.....best way to get rid of the *******. He can go
back to hacking and coderipping.


Though you intended that as a slur against me; by telling me to go back
hacking, you should be thankful that REAL (not saying I am one) Hackers
are out there protecting the children on the web as for coderipping, what
you call code ripping programmers call using a code snippet library

Heirloom:
Your idealism is commendable and, to an extent, even advisable.
We will take it under advisement accordingly, I hope.

Harry and full of ideas.


"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
I said I would not participate further in this downward spiral, but, I
went
back a read the entire thread and came to some enlightening conclusions.
First off, Mr. Harper seems to be one of the few (if not the only one)
that
shed a little light into this black hole of bickering. I found comments
that I agree with, disagree with, have severe doubts about and some that
are
blatantly insane. Where is this going?......nowhere, fast. Everyone
should
go back to Richard's post of 12/17 at 5:28AM and read it carefully....then
think about it (this may take longer for some).....then heed the message.

The world is a parade and it is this "I am the only one in step, the rest
of
the world is wrong" attitude that is overwhelming lucidity. C'mon
folks.....I don't like my country (US of A) or my home state (Texas) being
bashed, any more than I like hearing other countries/people being bashed.
I
care not if you are in Canada, Britain, Australia, U.S.A., Africa, NZ,
wherever!....look around you, is it perfect? No. Are we all on the same
'big blue ball'?..........YES! It's almost Christmas, for Christ's sake,
cool it!
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good plonk
Heirloom, old and going back to see if I
can
help someone

"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
...

Lets all go back to "our" forum group...
Regards to all Paul

--
cogito ergo sum

you sure don't know when you chain is being yanked do you, lol now bugger
off, I was side keying before you were born with my general class ticket and
was using phones on 2 meters long long ago even had a go at slow scan TV
back in the day.
"John John" wrote in message
...
-.. .. -- -... ..- .-.. -... .-.-.-(! --. = G)-.-- --- ..- .----. .-. . /
. ...- . -. / - --- --- / -.. ..- -- -... / - --- / .-. . .- -.. / .. -.
... - .-. ..- -.-. - .. --- -. ... .-.-.- / .--- --- .... -.


Sugien wrote:
Either you code is encrypted or not Morse; because there is NO dah dah
dit as in your second word after S U(your first word being *dear*). there
is a dit dit dah; but NO dah dah dit in the Morse code
Maybe you should go here and brush up:
http://library.thinkquest.org/J00115.../morsecode.htm
Well unless you are using some unknown Morse code:

International Morse Code A .- U ..- B -... V
...- C -.-. W .-- D -.. X -..- E .
Y -.-- Z --.. F ..-. G --. 0 ----- H ....
1 .---- I .. 2 ..--- J .--- 3 ...--
4 ....- K -.- 5 ..... L .-.. 6 -.... M --
7 --... N -. 8 ---.. O --- 9 ----. P .--.
Period .-.-.- Q --.- Comma --..-- R .-. ? Mark
..--.. S ... Hyphen -....- T - Apostrophe .----.
Colon ---... U ..- Quotation .-..-. V ...-
-..-. W .-- @ sign .--.-. X -..- Y -.-- --..but
as you can see there is NO dah dah dit, and seeing that the first word
comes out okI can only guess you did that to try and lure someone into
trying to decode crap."John John" wrote in
message ...

-.. . .- .-. / ... ..- --. .. . -. .-.-.- / .--. .-.. . .- ... . / ..-.
..- -.-. -.- / --- ..-. ..-. .-.-.- / -.-- --- ..- .----. .-. . / .- -. /
.. -- -... . -.-. .. .-.. . .-.-.- / .-. . --. .- .-. -.. ... / .---
--- .... -. .-.-.- / -- . .-. .-. -.-- / -.-. .... .-. .. ... - -- .- ...

Sugien wrote:


"Heather" wrote in message
.. .


"Sugien" wrote nothing of interest in message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
. ..


The only reason that the Yanks got there first was political - and
they were three days late!! (as usual) - and everyone had to wait
for them. Read the history that's written in books - not th stuff in
the comics you seem to be using for source material!

Now I'll set that plonk

Joining you in that.....best way to get rid of the *******. He can go
back to hacking and coderipping.


Though you intended that as a slur against me; by telling me to go back
hacking, you should be thankful that REAL (not saying I am one) Hackers
are out there protecting the children on the web as for coderipping,
what you call code ripping programmers call using a code snippet library

Sugien wrote:

you sure don't know when you chain is being yanked do you, lol now bugger
off, I was side keying before you were born with my general class ticket and
was using phones on 2 meters long long ago even had a go at slow scan TV
back in the day.

Was this before or after you became a paedophile?

Alias
"John John" wrote in message
...

-.. .. -- -... ..- .-.. -... .-.-.-(! --. = G)-.-- --- ..- .----. .-. . /
. ...- . -. / - --- --- / -.. ..- -- -... / - --- / .-. . .- -.. / .. -.
... - .-. ..- -.-. - .. --- -. ... .-.-.- / .--- --- .... -.


Sugien wrote:

Either you code is encrypted or not Morse; because there is NO dah dah
dit as in your second word after S U(your first word being *dear*). there
is a dit dit dah; but NO dah dah dit in the Morse code
Maybe you should go here and brush up:
http://library.thinkquest.org/J00115.../morsecode.htm
Well unless you are using some unknown Morse code:

International Morse Code A .- U ..- B -... V
...- C -.-. W .-- D -.. X -..- E .
Y -.-- Z --.. F ..-. G --. 0 ----- H ....
1 .---- I .. 2 ..--- J .--- 3 ...--
4 ....- K -.- 5 ..... L .-.. 6 -.... M --
7 --... N -. 8 ---.. O --- 9 ----. P .--.
Period .-.-.- Q --.- Comma --..-- R .-. ? Mark
..--.. S ... Hyphen -....- T - Apostrophe .----.
Colon ---... U ..- Quotation .-..-. V ...-
-..-. W .-- @ sign .--.-. X -..- Y -.-- --..but
as you can see there is NO dah dah dit, and seeing that the first word
comes out okI can only guess you did that to try and lure someone into
trying to decode crap."John John" wrote in
message ...


-.. . .- .-. / ... ..- --. .. . -. .-.-.- / .--. .-.. . .- ... . / ..-.
..- -.-. -.- / --- ..-. ..-. .-.-.- / -.-- --- ..- .----. .-. . / .- -. /
.. -- -... . -.-. .. .-.. . .-.-.- / .-. . --. .- .-. -.. ... / .---
--- .... -. .-.-.- / -- . .-. .-. -.-- / -.-. .... .-. .. ... - -- .- ...

Sugien wrote:



"Heather" wrote in message
. ..



"Sugien" wrote nothing of interest in message
...



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...



The only reason that the Yanks got there first was political - and
they were three days late!! (as usual) - and everyone had to wait
for them. Read the history that's written in books - not th stuff in
the comics you seem to be using for source material!

Now I'll set that plonk

Joining you in that.....best way to get rid of the *******. He can go
back to hacking and coderipping.


Though you intended that as a slur against me; by telling me to go back
hacking, you should be thankful that REAL (not saying I am one) Hackers
are out there protecting the children on the web as for coderipping,
what you call code ripping programmers call using a code snippet library

Ah, you see; once the cycle has begun it is difficult to get one's self free
of unless one is truly and really dedicated to the thought that it can be
done. Many belief-structures rely on the cyclical nature of life. Even
those that don't acknowledge the truism "what goes around comes around."

The only way to break the cycle is to dedicate yourself to the thought that
you are capable of much better.

You can do it.
You CAN do it.
YOU CAN DO IT.

Trust me.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"Sugien" wrote in message
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I certainly am NOT *your* son; besides there is nothing worse then a self
aggrandizing full of ones self person such as you! Those with such full of
ones self notions can always be spotted by there agreeing with anyone that
agrees with there tripe and trying to put down those that do not. bugger
off and copy and paste from a different source next time.

You only need to realize which discipline your foe is using, then counter
with an appropriate discipline. For example, those who follow the school of
Clausewitz ("War is a wrestling match on a larger scale") can easily be
confounded by countering with Sun Tzu ("One hundred victories in one hundred
battles is not the most skillful. Seizing the enemy without fighting is the
most skillful").

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"Noel Paton" wrote in message
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Aaaah - but I fear that your hope is a forlorn one, Richard.
This particular brand of total a&&hole has surfaced periodically (pun
intended) throughout the universe that is known as UseNet - and seems to
think that it has a divine right to publish "The Truth" - whether or not
that view of reality has any bearing on the subject at hand, or not.

Discovering the answer to THAT question will lead to a lifetime of delight
and awe.

:-)

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"webster72n" wrote in message
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Harry, who likes to think he is, but what ?.

Hi Kids, Can I play too, can I, can I?

My daddy can beat up your daddy!

Oh yeah? Sez who?

Your mom wears brogans!

Just go ahead and spit over this line!

Bet ya won't knock this stick off my shoulder!

Well I'm tired now. Hope the recent spate of madness is
because of a full moon and that this Newsgroup can get back
to normal soon. GET A LIFE.

Job offers an old adage, "If you lay down with dogs you're
gonna get fleas."

"OldHillbilly" wrote in message
oups.com...
TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
America: The Good Neighbor.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
commentator. What follows is the full text of his
trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional
Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for
the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the
least
appreciated people on all the earth.
Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these
countries is today paying even the interest on its
remaining debts to the United States.
When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
streets
of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
59
American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
Nobody helped.
The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now
newspapers in those countries are writing about the
decadent, warmongering Americans.
I'd like to see just one of those countries that
is gloating over the erosion of the United States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
country
in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American
Planes?
Why does no other land on earth even consider
putting
a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about
German
technocracy, and you get automobiles.
You talk about American technocracy, and you find
men on the moon - not once, but several times -
and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
theirs
right in the store window for everybody to look at
..
Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and
hounded.
They are here on our streets, and most of them,
unless
they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting
American
dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India
were breaking down through age, it was the
Americans
who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad
and
the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them
an
old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
to the help of other people in trouble. Can you
name
me even one time when someone else raced to the
Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
outside
help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thing
with
their flag high. And when they do, they are
entitled
to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating
over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not
one of
those."
Stand proud, America!
Wear it proudly!!