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need to upgrade PowerQuest PartitionMagic 7.0 - please help



 
 
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  #11  
Old October 25th 04, 03:02 AM
Adam
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Thanks for your input but ...

I bought a copy of PowerQuest's Drive Image at
the same time that I bought PowerQuest's PartitionMagic 7.0.
But, ended up liking PM7 much more than Drive Image.

I tried 'xxCopy' but didn't like it.

And, I don't use WinXP.



"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message
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"Adam" wrote:

I'm looking for partitioning software that is capable of
backing up (or copying) existing FAT32 bootable partitions.
Are the partitioning software you mention capable of this?



You're looling for what is frequently called a "disk cloning"
or "imaging" utility. PowerQuest's Drive Image 7.x (now
Norton's Ghost 9.0), Acronis' True Image, and several others
do this, not partitioning utilities. Xxcopy does this, too, but
I've not heard much about it except that it's free (see their
website at http:\\www.xxCopy.com ). If you want the cloned
partition to be bootable (assuming it contains an operating
system), tell the utility to copy the Master Boot Record
("MBR") as well. On the 1st boot-up of the clone, don't let
the original OS be visible to the clone or the clone will hook
into files on the original drive and the clone thereafter won't
run without the original OS present. To do this, just disconnect
the original drive and put the clone in its place for that 1st
boot-up. Thereafter, the clone can be booted even with the
original visible to it.

If you have WinXP (or Win2K) (and if the clone drive has
the space), you can put at least 4 copies of the original OS
on the clone drive, and each can be bootable from its separate
*primary* partition. (It may be the case that WinXP/2K can be
booted from a logical drive, but I've never put a clone into a
logical drive.) You can then use WinXP/2K's) multi- boot
feature to select the clone for booting at boot time. You would
have to adjust the original drive's boot.ini file (at C:\boot.ini) to
add a line pointing to the clone to include it in the original drive's
boot menu to do that, but that is trivial if you know the boot.ini
syntax. Since your clone(s) might also act as emergency
copies of the original in the event the original drive crashes,
you ought to adjust the boot.ini file in the "active" partition on
your clone drive as well. You can make any partition on a drive
the "active" partition by using Disk Management (rt-click on
My Computer, click Manage, click Disk Management), and that
indicates that the boot.ini file in that partition will be used for the
boot menu of OSes to select from. When pointing to partitions
with boot.ini, remember that the 1st partition on the drive is
known as "partition(1)", the 2nd partition as "partition(2)", etc.
You can use the part of the boot.ini file that is in quotes to
call each OS whatever you want.

If the original drive crashes, just pop the archive drive in its
place and boot the OS version that you want. Otherwise, you
can keep the archive drive connected where it is, and you can
boot into it by adjusting the boot sequence in the BIOS.

If you have WinXP and the archive drive is selected by the
BIOS' boot sequence, the boot.ini file in the drive's "active"
partition will let you select which partition (i.e. which OS version)
to boot into. Keep in mind that the boot.ini file in the "active"
partition will always think it's in the booted partition (called
"Logical Disk (C" by Windows), so set the rdisk() lines in
boot.ini file to point appropriately to "this" hard drive (i.e rdisk(0) )
or to "the next" hard drive (i.e. rdisk(1) ) or "the one after that"
(i.e. rdisk(2) ). This sequence of hard drives, by the way, is
determined by the boot sequence in the BIOS, and by adjusting
that sequence, you adjust what is meant by "this drive",
"the next drive", and "the one after that".

*TimDaniels*



  #12  
Old October 25th 04, 04:19 AM
Timothy Daniels
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"Adam" wrote:

Thanks for your input but ...

I bought a copy of PowerQuest's Drive Image at
the same time that I bought PowerQuest's PartitionMagic 7.0.
But, ended up liking PM7 much more than Drive Image.



Yeah, but does PM7 make a bootable OS for you?
Probably has something to do with not copying the
MBR.


I tried 'xxCopy' but didn't like it.

And, I don't use WinXP.



In that case a copy of Drive Image 2002 should work fine.
You can purchase it online for $13 or $14. Check it out
using Froogle.Google.com or NextTag.com (see
http://www.nextag.com/serv/main/buye...ge+2002&node=0 ).
All that I wrote except the part about multi-booting (and
perhaps not the part about keeping the clone isolated
during its 1st boot-up) applies to Win98.

*TimDaniels*
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Old October 25th 04, 04:55 AM
Adam
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Yes, PM7 can make a bootable OS for users.
I've done it many times.

PM7 provides ways for the user to
set partition attributes. Key attributes a
- Primary / Logical
- Active / Hidden / None

And, if a partition (with an OS installed) has the correct attributes
(like Primary and Active) and is located in the proper location (like
below the 8 GB address space) on the HDD, then that partition should be
bootable.

Like I said, I already own a copy of Drive Image but
seldom used it since PM7 was sufficient.



"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message
...
"Adam" wrote:

Thanks for your input but ...

I bought a copy of PowerQuest's Drive Image at
the same time that I bought PowerQuest's PartitionMagic 7.0.
But, ended up liking PM7 much more than Drive Image.



Yeah, but does PM7 make a bootable OS for you?
Probably has something to do with not copying the
MBR.


I tried 'xxCopy' but didn't like it.

And, I don't use WinXP.



In that case a copy of Drive Image 2002 should work fine.
You can purchase it online for $13 or $14. Check it out
using Froogle.Google.com or NextTag.com (see
http://www.nextag.com/serv/main/buye...ge+2002&node=0 ).
All that I wrote except the part about multi-booting (and
perhaps not the part about keeping the clone isolated
during its 1st boot-up) applies to Win98.

*TimDaniels*



  #14  
Old October 25th 04, 05:00 AM
SFB - KB3MM
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Every disk must have a MBR. It is created when the partition(s) is created.

"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message
...
"Adam" wrote:

Thanks for your input but ...

I bought a copy of PowerQuest's Drive Image at
the same time that I bought PowerQuest's PartitionMagic 7.0.
But, ended up liking PM7 much more than Drive Image.



Yeah, but does PM7 make a bootable OS for you?
Probably has something to do with not copying the
MBR.


I tried 'xxCopy' but didn't like it.

And, I don't use WinXP.



In that case a copy of Drive Image 2002 should work fine.
You can purchase it online for $13 or $14. Check it out
using Froogle.Google.com or NextTag.com (see

http://www.nextag.com/serv/main/buye...ge+2002&node=0 )
..
All that I wrote except the part about multi-booting (and
perhaps not the part about keeping the clone isolated
during its 1st boot-up) applies to Win98.

*TimDaniels*


  #15  
Old October 25th 04, 10:41 AM
Arno Wagner
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage SFB - KB3MM wrote:
Every disk must have a MBR. It is created when the partition(s) is created.


Actually every disk must have a top-level partition table. There is
no need for boot code to be in there and it is an MBR only with boot
code.

Arno

"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message
...
"Adam" wrote:

Thanks for your input but ...

I bought a copy of PowerQuest's Drive Image at
the same time that I bought PowerQuest's PartitionMagic 7.0.
But, ended up liking PM7 much more than Drive Image.



Yeah, but does PM7 make a bootable OS for you?
Probably has something to do with not copying the
MBR.


I tried 'xxCopy' but didn't like it.

And, I don't use WinXP.



In that case a copy of Drive Image 2002 should work fine.
You can purchase it online for $13 or $14. Check it out
using Froogle.Google.com or NextTag.com (see

http://www.nextag.com/serv/main/buye...ge+2002&node=0 )
.
All that I wrote except the part about multi-booting (and
perhaps not the part about keeping the clone isolated
during its 1st boot-up) applies to Win98.

*TimDaniels*



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Old October 25th 04, 04:37 PM
Eric Gisin
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"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage SFB - KB3MM

wrote:
Every disk must have a MBR. It is created when the partition(s) is

created.

Actually every disk must have a top-level partition table. There is
no need for boot code to be in there and it is an MBR only with boot
code.

If you use a really ****ed up OS, it may not put boot code in, and your
computer hangs on startup.

The majority of us use a real OS. Boot code is a requirement of the MBR.

  #17  
Old October 25th 04, 06:48 PM
Folkert Rienstra
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"Arno Wagner" wrote in message
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage SFB - KB3MM wrote:
Every disk must have a MBR. It is created when the partition(s) is created.


Actually every disk must have a top-level partition table.


'Actually' it does not 'must have' a top-level partition table.
There is also the Large Floppy type format.

There is no need for boot code to be in there and


it is an MBR only with boot code.


Says who?


Arno

"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ...
"Adam" wrote:

Thanks for your input but ...

I bought a copy of PowerQuest's Drive Image at
the same time that I bought PowerQuest's PartitionMagic 7.0.
But, ended up liking PM7 much more than Drive Image.


Yeah, but does PM7 make a bootable OS for you?
Probably has something to do with not copying the
MBR.


I tried 'xxCopy' but didn't like it.

And, I don't use WinXP.


In that case a copy of Drive Image 2002 should work fine.
You can purchase it online for $13 or $14. Check it out
using Froogle.Google.com or NextTag.com (see

http://www.nextag.com/serv/main/buye...ge+2002&node=0 )
.
All that I wrote except the part about multi-booting (and
perhaps not the part about keeping the clone isolated
during its 1st boot-up) applies to Win98.

*TimDaniels*

  #18  
Old November 4th 04, 11:58 AM
Adam
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Update ... my solution ...

I purchased a copy of PartitionMagic 8.0 with
a copyright year of 2002. It's great!



"Adam" wrote in message
. com...

My system is running Win98SE.

I have PowerQuest PartitionMagic 7.0 installed.

I just bought a 80 GB HDD (Seagate ST3200822A),
which exceeds PM7's capabilities. So, I need to
either upgrade to or buy PM8. But, due to
Symantec and PowerQuest's deal, I hear people are
very disappointed with Symantec's handling of
PowerQuest's software.

Is it still possible to get a version of PM8 that
has not been processed by Symantec?



 




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