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  #1  
Old August 2nd 06, 08:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Alan
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Posts: 213
Default Problems with additional RAM aand NIC

X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was 2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some time so I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run with no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no data sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine II fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from the ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows. Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but did not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional RAM (no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in between the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan


  #2  
Old August 2nd 06, 05:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Haggis
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Posts: 325
Default Problems with additional RAM aand NIC




"Alan" wrote in message
...
X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it
hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was 2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some time so I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run with no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no data
sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine II
fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from the
ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows. Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but did
not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional RAM (no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in between
the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan



I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory ...but then
again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...

reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC (and any
other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in there...(control
paneldevice manager

reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again ..

post back :



  #3  
Old August 3rd 06, 08:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Alan
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 213
Default Problems with additional RAM aand NIC


"Haggis" wrote in message
...



"Alan" wrote in message
...
X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it
hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was

2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some time so

I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run with

no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that

there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no data
sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine II
fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from the
ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows. Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but did
not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional RAM

(no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in between
the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan



I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory ...but

then
again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...

reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC (and any
other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in

there...(control
paneldevice manager

reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again ..

post back :

I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I will check

again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS and spent
time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do. One of
ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem depending on the
speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is set to
auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is running at
in terms of FSB.
The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max 3 GB
unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200 maximum
to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700 so am
limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of a bank
is?
In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB CPU, system
memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody explain
the significance.
Thanks
Alan



  #4  
Old August 3rd 06, 02:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Haggis
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 325
Default Problems with additional RAM aand NIC




"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Haggis" wrote in message
...



"Alan" wrote in message
...
X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it
hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was

2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some time
so

I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run with

no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the
Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that

there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no data
sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine II
fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from the
ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows. Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but
did
not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional RAM

(no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and
hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in between
the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan



I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory ...but

then
again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...

reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC (and
any
other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in

there...(control
paneldevice manager

reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again ..

post back :

I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I will
check

again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS and
spent
time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do. One of
ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem depending on
the
speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is set to
auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is running
at
in terms of FSB.
The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max 3 GB
unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200
maximum
to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700 so am
limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of a bank
is?
In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB CPU,
system
memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody explain
the significance.
Thanks
Alan




a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds ok
....did you try just the 512mb ?)

FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the motherboard/memory or
they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)


  #5  
Old August 4th 06, 09:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Alan
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 213
Default Problems with additional RAM aand NIC


"Haggis" wrote in message
...



"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Haggis" wrote in message
...



"Alan" wrote in message
...
X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it
hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was

2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some time
so

I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run

with
no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the
Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that

there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no

data
sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine

II
fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from

the
ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows.

Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but
did
not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional

RAM
(no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and
hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in

between
the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan



I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory ...but

then
again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...

reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC (and
any
other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in

there...(control
paneldevice manager

reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again ..

post back :

I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I will
check

again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS and
spent
time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do. One

of
ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem depending on
the
speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is set

to
auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is

running
at
in terms of FSB.
The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max 3

GB
unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200
maximum
to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700 so am
limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of a

bank
is?
In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB CPU,
system
memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody

explain
the significance.
Thanks
Alan




a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds ok
...did you try just the 512mb ?)

FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the motherboard/memory

or
they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)

I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at. When I
check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings are auto.
The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
Alan


  #6  
Old August 4th 06, 01:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Haggis
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 325
Default Problems with additional RAM aand NIC



"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Haggis" wrote in message
...



"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Haggis" wrote in message
...



"Alan" wrote in message
...
X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and it
hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing was
2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some
time
so
I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run

with
no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the
Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised that
there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no

data
sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA Rhine

II
fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from

the
ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows.

Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows but
did
not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional

RAM
(no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry and
hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in

between
the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan



I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory
...but
then
again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...

reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC (and
any
other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
there...(control
paneldevice manager

reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again ..

post back :

I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I will
check
again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS and
spent
time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do. One

of
ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem depending
on
the
speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is set

to
auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is

running
at
in terms of FSB.
The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max 3

GB
unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200
maximum
to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700 so
am
limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of a

bank
is?
In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB CPU,
system
memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody

explain
the significance.
Thanks
Alan




a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds ok
...did you try just the 512mb ?)

FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the motherboard/memory

or
they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)

I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at. When I
check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings are
auto.
The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
Alan



if hit "pause" quick enough at boot time , you should see the CPU speed and
stepping.(and IIRC you can see it in sysinfo under accessories/tools ..going
from memory here :)

most motherboards will detect and automatically adjust bus speed to match
the CPU and Memory


  #7  
Old August 5th 06, 06:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Alan
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 213
Default Problems with additional RAM aand NIC


"Haggis" wrote in message
...


"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Haggis" wrote in message
...



"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Haggis" wrote in message
...



"Alan" wrote in message
...
X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off and

it
hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing

was
2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some
time
so
I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that run

with
no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which the
Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised

that
there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but no

data
sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA

Rhine
II
fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software from

the
ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by Windows.

Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows

but
did
not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the additional

RAM
(no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry

and
hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in

between
the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan



I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory
...but
then
again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...

reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC

(and
any
other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
there...(control
paneldevice manager

reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again

...

post back :

I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I will
check
again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS and
spent
time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do.

One
of
ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem depending
on
the
speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is

set
to
auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is

running
at
in terms of FSB.
The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max

3
GB
unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200
maximum
to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700 so
am
limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of a

bank
is?
In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB CPU,
system
memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody

explain
the significance.
Thanks
Alan




a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds ok
...did you try just the 512mb ?)

FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the

motherboard/memory
or
they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)

I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at. When I
check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings are
auto.
The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
Alan



if hit "pause" quick enough at boot time , you should see the CPU speed

and
stepping.(and IIRC you can see it in sysinfo under accessories/tools

...going
from memory here :)

most motherboards will detect and automatically adjust bus speed to match
the CPU and Memory

Thanks for your input. I don't appear to have a pause option during POST but
do confirm the correct speed of 1800 is being given. At present System Info
giving an IRQ of 3 for the Rhine LAN. I have been spending time checking
over everything - just to make sure. I found this little gem buried deep
down in the ASUS web page for the MOBO and it wasn't there a little while
ago when I last checked. Anyway what it says is concerning the memory banks
and according to ASUS, one single sided DIMM means one bank, one double
sided DIMM means two banks, two single sided DIMMs means two banks etc.
Banks doesn't mean slots in their logic! So in my case there are three slots
on the MOBO and using PC2700 I can use 4 banks, i.e. 2 doubles or as I have
one double and two singles. Why they don't put this in the user's manual is
beyond me.
I have had all the RAM out and checked it against the Samsung DDR SDRAM
Module Code Information and as I thought, it is all the same type. When I
was running the 2 x 256 modules I also logged onto www.crucial.com/uk to
check what they said and use their little routine to analyse the memory
options for my MOBO. Very useful and confirmed what I had done was correct
with the same option for upgrading to 1 Meg. Next step was to put the 512
into slot one and nothing else and see how it runs. At present all OK and no
failing devices! I shall then upgrade the system.ini again and try one 256
at a time and see what happens.
Alan


  #8  
Old August 12th 06, 09:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Alan
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 213
Default Problems with additional RAM aand NIC


"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Haggis" wrote in message
...


"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Haggis" wrote in message
...



"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Haggis" wrote in message
...



"Alan" wrote in message
...
X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off

and
it
hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing

was
2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for some
time
so
I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that

run
with
no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which

the
Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised

that
there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but

no
data
sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA

Rhine
II
fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software

from
the
ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by

Windows.
Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by Windows

but
did
not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the

additional
RAM
(no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the Registry

and
hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in
between
the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan



I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory
...but
then
again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...

reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC

(and
any
other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
there...(control
paneldevice manager

reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers again

..

post back :

I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I

will
check
again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS

and
spent
time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot do.

One
of
ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem

depending
on
the
speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS is

set
to
auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is
running
at
in terms of FSB.
The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets,

Max
3
GB
unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:- PC3200
maximum
to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700

so
am
limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of

a
bank
is?
In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB

CPU,
system
memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody
explain
the significance.
Thanks
Alan




a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds

ok
...did you try just the 512mb ?)

FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the

motherboard/memory
or
they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)

I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at. When

I
check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings are
auto.
The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
Alan



if hit "pause" quick enough at boot time , you should see the CPU speed

and
stepping.(and IIRC you can see it in sysinfo under accessories/tools

..going
from memory here :)

most motherboards will detect and automatically adjust bus speed to

match
the CPU and Memory

Thanks for your input. I don't appear to have a pause option during POST

but
do confirm the correct speed of 1800 is being given. At present System

Info
giving an IRQ of 3 for the Rhine LAN. I have been spending time checking
over everything - just to make sure. I found this little gem buried deep
down in the ASUS web page for the MOBO and it wasn't there a little while
ago when I last checked. Anyway what it says is concerning the memory

banks
and according to ASUS, one single sided DIMM means one bank, one double
sided DIMM means two banks, two single sided DIMMs means two banks etc.
Banks doesn't mean slots in their logic! So in my case there are three

slots
on the MOBO and using PC2700 I can use 4 banks, i.e. 2 doubles or as I

have
one double and two singles. Why they don't put this in the user's manual

is
beyond me.
I have had all the RAM out and checked it against the Samsung DDR SDRAM
Module Code Information and as I thought, it is all the same type. When I
was running the 2 x 256 modules I also logged onto www.crucial.com/uk to
check what they said and use their little routine to analyse the memory
options for my MOBO. Very useful and confirmed what I had done was correct
with the same option for upgrading to 1 Meg. Next step was to put the 512
into slot one and nothing else and see how it runs. At present all OK and

no
failing devices! I shall then upgrade the system.ini again and try one 256
at a time and see what happens.
Alan
Now running 768 with no apparent problems.

Alan



  #9  
Old August 14th 06, 01:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.setup
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Default Problems with additional RAM aand NIC



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X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off

and
it
hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The existing

was
2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for
some
time
so
I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let that

run
with
no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM which

the
Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then realised

that
there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up but

no
data
sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA

Rhine
II
fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software

from
the
ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by

Windows.
Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by
Windows

but
did
not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the

additional
RAM
(no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the
Registry

and
hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie in
between
the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan



I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding memory
...but
then
again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...

reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your NIC

(and
any
other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
there...(control
paneldevice manager

reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers
again

..

post back :

I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I

will
check
again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing ASUS

and
spent
time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot
do.

One
of
ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem

depending
on
the
speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS
is

set
to
auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it is
running
at
in terms of FSB.
The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets,

Max
3
GB
unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:-
PC3200
maximum
to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using PC2700

so
am
limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition of

a
bank
is?
In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB

CPU,
system
memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can anybody
explain
the significance.
Thanks
Alan




a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using sounds

ok
...did you try just the 512mb ?)

FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the

motherboard/memory
or
they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)

I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at. When

I
check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings
are
auto.
The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
Alan



if hit "pause" quick enough at boot time , you should see the CPU speed

and
stepping.(and IIRC you can see it in sysinfo under accessories/tools

..going
from memory here :)

most motherboards will detect and automatically adjust bus speed to

match
the CPU and Memory

Thanks for your input. I don't appear to have a pause option during POST

but
do confirm the correct speed of 1800 is being given. At present System

Info
giving an IRQ of 3 for the Rhine LAN. I have been spending time checking
over everything - just to make sure. I found this little gem buried deep
down in the ASUS web page for the MOBO and it wasn't there a little while
ago when I last checked. Anyway what it says is concerning the memory

banks
and according to ASUS, one single sided DIMM means one bank, one double
sided DIMM means two banks, two single sided DIMMs means two banks etc.
Banks doesn't mean slots in their logic! So in my case there are three

slots
on the MOBO and using PC2700 I can use 4 banks, i.e. 2 doubles or as I

have
one double and two singles. Why they don't put this in the user's manual

is
beyond me.
I have had all the RAM out and checked it against the Samsung DDR SDRAM
Module Code Information and as I thought, it is all the same type. When I
was running the 2 x 256 modules I also logged onto www.crucial.com/uk to
check what they said and use their little routine to analyse the memory
options for my MOBO. Very useful and confirmed what I had done was
correct
with the same option for upgrading to 1 Meg. Next step was to put the 512
into slot one and nothing else and see how it runs. At present all OK and

no
failing devices! I shall then upgrade the system.ini again and try one
256
at a time and see what happens.
Alan
Now running 768 with no apparent problems.

Alan




good to hear :


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Old August 23rd 06, 04:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,microsoft.public.win98.networking,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.setup
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X posted. 2nd attempt as the first time I left the header off

and
it
hasn't
appeared!

I recently purchased additional RAM for my system. The

existing
was
2x256k
and for the remaining slot I bought 512k.(All the same
spec/supplier/manufacturer). The system has been stable for
some
time
so
I
added the vcache 512000 entry into the system.ini and let

that
run
with
no
problems for a couple of days. I then added the 512k RAM

which
the
Award
BIOS recognised and dealt with. Unfortunately, I then

realised
that
there
was no Internet access. The 2091 router saw the PC power up

but
no
data
sent
to line. Checks on the system revealed a problem with the VIA
Rhine
II
fast
Ethernet adapter. Now try as I might with reloads of software

from
the
ASUS
and Windows CDs, I couldn't get the NIC to be accepted by

Windows.
Even
turning the LAN off and on in the BIOS was recognised by
Windows
but
did
not
resolve the problem. Finally I powered off, removed the

additional
RAM
(no
difference) and then restored a previous version of the
Registry
and
hey
presto all OK. Question was I just unlucky or is there a tie

in
between
the
additional RAM and the Rhine adapter?
Alan



I cannot think of a reason the NIC would fail when adding

memory
...but
then
again NIC drivers do get corrupted ...

reboot into safe mode and remove all entries relating to your

NIC
(and
any
other NIC cards found there) ..you may have a ghost NIC in
there...(control
paneldevice manager

reboot and let windows go through the install of the drivers
again
..

post back :

I note your comments. Some time ago I did clear out ghosts but I

will
check
again. In the meantime, I also took the liberty of e-mailing

ASUS
and
spent
time surfing to see if there is anything the MOBO can or cannot
do.
One
of
ASUS posts for the A7V8X-X suggested there may be a problem

depending
on
the
speed of the FSB. I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ and the BIOS
is
set
to
auto for this and I am having difficulty finding what speed it

is
running
at
in terms of FSB.
The spec. for the MOBO for the Memory says 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets,

Max
3
GB
unbuffered PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM. A note then says:-
PC3200
maximum
to 2 banks only. PC2700 maximum to 4 banks only. I am using

PC2700
so
am
limited to 4 banks - but does anybody know what the deffinition

of
a
bank
is?
In addition the CPU socket spec. says that when using 333MHz FSB

CPU,
system
memory supports DDR333 only. I don't understand this, can

anybody
explain
the significance.
Thanks
Alan




a "Bank" is the slot the memory goes into (what you are using

sounds
ok
...did you try just the 512mb ?)

FSB of the processor has to match the FSB speed of the
motherboard/memory
or
they do not communicate properly (Front Side Bus)

I can't seem to find what FSB speed the processor is running at.

When
I
check in the BIOS nothing appears to relate to it and the settings
are
auto.
The BIOS correctly identifies the AMD OK at POST but no FSB detail.
Alan



if hit "pause" quick enough at boot time , you should see the CPU

speed
and
stepping.(and IIRC you can see it in sysinfo under accessories/tools
..going
from memory here :)

most motherboards will detect and automatically adjust bus speed to

match
the CPU and Memory

Thanks for your input. I don't appear to have a pause option during

POST
but
do confirm the correct speed of 1800 is being given. At present System

Info
giving an IRQ of 3 for the Rhine LAN. I have been spending time

checking
over everything - just to make sure. I found this little gem buried

deep
down in the ASUS web page for the MOBO and it wasn't there a little

while
ago when I last checked. Anyway what it says is concerning the memory

banks
and according to ASUS, one single sided DIMM means one bank, one double
sided DIMM means two banks, two single sided DIMMs means two banks etc.
Banks doesn't mean slots in their logic! So in my case there are three

slots
on the MOBO and using PC2700 I can use 4 banks, i.e. 2 doubles or as I

have
one double and two singles. Why they don't put this in the user's

manual
is
beyond me.
I have had all the RAM out and checked it against the Samsung DDR SDRAM
Module Code Information and as I thought, it is all the same type. When

I
was running the 2 x 256 modules I also logged onto www.crucial.com/uk

to
check what they said and use their little routine to analyse the memory
options for my MOBO. Very useful and confirmed what I had done was
correct
with the same option for upgrading to 1 Meg. Next step was to put the

512
into slot one and nothing else and see how it runs. At present all OK

and
no
failing devices! I shall then upgrade the system.ini again and try one
256
at a time and see what happens.
Alan
Now running 768 with no apparent problems.

Alan




good to hear :

Just tried the last of the RAM (256) to bring it up to 1Meg and again the
Device Manager reported problems with the Rhine adapter under NDIS and of
course no access to the internet via the onboard LAN interface. It said it
was either faulty or bad/incorrect drivers. It Control Panel/Network the
Rhine adapter properties didn't change. This time I didn't try reloading any
drivers but just powered down and removed the 256 RAM stick and powered up
again and all OK with 768. FYI whether 768 or 1Meg the POST says the RAM is
OK. Any clues?
Alan


 




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