Starting up your PC

"attilathehun1" wrote in message ...
I'm having problems starting up my PC at all. I think a wire is loose on the
power button assembly. The power supply works, because I tried on another PC
and it booted up. Isn't there a way to start your PC by touching 2 points on
the motherboard? I took a PC class a while back and my teacher often started
his PC by touching 2 points on his motherboard with a screwdriver? If there
is a way to do that please tell me.

Please repost with more information, including what happens when the
computer is turned on.

Ben

Ok, I did what you said. I stuck a paper clip into the P1 connector while it
was plugged in and it started. I stuck the paper clip into P1's green wire
and connected the other side of the paper clip to the black wire connector on
P1. Presto, it started. One thing though, the parallel strap to the hard
drive wasn't connected to the hard drive. The PC though did start up, but
nothing was on the monitor, of course.
I think either you or I are getting this backwards. There is no way I could
use a screw drive to do what I just did. I'm connecting the wires on the
actual P1 mobo connector on the power supply. I'm not even touching the
motherboard. I'm touching the P1 connector on the power supply. The two
points, one on the green wire, and one on the black wire with the paper clip
that I cut into a U.
Ok, I'm going to buy a power button I think. I'll wait for someone's reply
though.
Please, any help would be greatly appreciated and quicker the better. This
is taking up just too much of my time on this one deal.
I have another PC that was in the original spot that is causing the whole
problem. I just bought a motherboard from newegg.com for about 80 bucks out
the door. Wth shipping and handling, it's probably about 90 bucks altogether.
Thanks, attilathehun1

--
attilathehun1


"philo" wrote:


"attilathehun1" wrote in message
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It's a gateway. An older model by the power supply that I bought for it.
It
has a pentium III CPU stock. I took off the power button assembly off the
front of the inner PC with one little screw, off the front panel. I think
it
may have a short, but I'm not sure. When I took out the hard drive and
replaced it and put back the original hard drive I could see where the
metal
brackets could hit the start up button wire assembly.
It was working fine before I added a hard drive on it as a slave. I used
it
to format a hard drive or erase a hard drive on another PC. Now this one
is
not firing up, the Windows 98 SE Gateway PC.
I'm going to buy a start up assembly button, with wires. If that's not
it,
then it's shorting out somehow.
Thanks, attilathehun1




Before you buy a new button
just unplug the connector from the mobo and jump the two terminals together
with a small screw driver...
if the machine starts then your button may be bad
otherwise your problem lies elsewhere
you may have disturbed something when you added the HD

Wait, I've been trying to stick the paper clip into the P1 connector while
it's connected to the motherboard. I think I'm doing something wrong? What
two points on the motherboard should I touch the screwdriver to? Or if that's
not it, please tell me where or what to do.
I've built PCs and fixed many. So, your not dealing with a noobie, so much,
here.
-- Thanks, attilathehun1
attilathehun1


"philo" wrote:


"attilathehun1" wrote in message
...
It's a gateway. An older model by the power supply that I bought for it.
It
has a pentium III CPU stock. I took off the power button assembly off the
front of the inner PC with one little screw, off the front panel. I think
it
may have a short, but I'm not sure. When I took out the hard drive and
replaced it and put back the original hard drive I could see where the
metal
brackets could hit the start up button wire assembly.
It was working fine before I added a hard drive on it as a slave. I used
it
to format a hard drive or erase a hard drive on another PC. Now this one
is
not firing up, the Windows 98 SE Gateway PC.
I'm going to buy a start up assembly button, with wires. If that's not
it,
then it's shorting out somehow.
Thanks, attilathehun1




Before you buy a new button
just unplug the connector from the mobo and jump the two terminals together
with a small screw driver...
if the machine starts then your button may be bad
otherwise your problem lies elsewhere
you may have disturbed something when you added the HD

I just want to find out if my power button assembly on the front panel works
or doesn't work. I want to fire up my PC without the power button on the
front panel. That's it. If it fires up then the problem is the power button
assembly. If it still doesn't fire up then the problem probably lies
elsewhere.
Thanks, attilathehun1
--
attilathehun1


"Ben Myers" wrote:

"attilathehun1" wrote in message ...
I'm having problems starting up my PC at all. I think a wire is loose on the
power button assembly. The power supply works, because I tried on another PC
and it booted up. Isn't there a way to start your PC by touching 2 points on
the motherboard? I took a PC class a while back and my teacher often started
his PC by touching 2 points on his motherboard with a screwdriver? If there
is a way to do that please tell me.

Please repost with more information, including what happens when the
computer is turned on.

Ben

"attilathehun1" wrote in message
...
Wait, I've been trying to stick the paper clip into the P1 connector while
it's connected to the motherboard. I think I'm doing something wrong? What
two points on the motherboard should I touch the screwdriver to? Or if
that's
not it, please tell me where or what to do.
I've built PCs and fixed many. So, your not dealing with a noobie, so
much,
here.


The push-button "on" switch would have to connect to the motherboard
through a two-pin push-on connector.
Simply unplug the connector and momentarily short the two pins on the
motherboard
together.
If the machine starts up and runs fine,,,
then your switch or it's wiring is bad...
but if the machine does not start...then the problem is not related to the
push-button switch.

I'd test that before just going out and purchasing a new switch.

Check for anything you might have disturbed when you added the HD

"philo" wrote in message
...

"attilathehun1" wrote in message
...
Wait, I've been trying to stick the paper clip into the P1 connector
while
it's connected to the motherboard. I think I'm doing something wrong?
What
two points on the motherboard should I touch the screwdriver to? Or if
that's
not it, please tell me where or what to do.
I've built PCs and fixed many. So, your not dealing with a noobie, so
much,
here.


The push-button "on" switch would have to connect to the motherboard
through a two-pin push-on connector.
Simply unplug the connector and momentarily short the two pins on the
motherboard
together.
If the machine starts up and runs fine,,,
then your switch or it's wiring is bad...
but if the machine does not start...then the problem is not related to the
push-button switch.

I'd test that before just going out and purchasing a new switch.

Check for anything you might have disturbed when you added the HD


Ever get the impression that you're being put-on? Could
anyone making the claim: "I've built PCs and fixed many.
So, your (sic) not dealing with a noobie, so much, here",
particularly after being spoonfed so much documented
information and assistance, REALLY be THAT inept?

On May 9, 4:16 pm, attilathehun1
wrote:
I just want to find out if my power button assembly on the front panel works
or doesn't work. I want to fire up my PC without the power button on the
front panel. That's it. If it fires up then the problem is the power button
assembly. If it still doesn't fire up then the problem probably lies
elsewhere.

Take meter reading from the green and purple wires before and when
the switch is pressed. Now answers are definitive. If problems are
elsewhere, those numbers also point to where that elsewhere is. Don't
even begin yet to guess how numbers from a 15 second procedure answers
so much. Do the procedure to learn how much is obtained so quickly
and inexpensively - or why the Japanese describe same by saying "Don't
work harder; work smarter."

Today a power switch can powerup the machine. Tomorrow it does
not. Is that a defective power switch? Maybe yes and maybe no. If
green wire jumper powers the supply, does that mean the power switch
is bad or intermittent? Maybe yes or maybe no. IOW reports nothing
useful. Did you know about the power supply controller? 15 seconds
means numbers from green and purple wires so that a next reply is
definitive... no maybes.

Jumpering the green wire says nothing useful about the front power
button or power supply. That rather useful green wire test, in your
case, only creates more 'maybes'. Using a meter appears complex. The
task is as complex as touching a paper clip. But the resulting facts
are massive. Green wire jumper means nobody can provide useful posts
- can only post speculation. Numbers from that meter mean the next
post from the most technically informed answer definitively and
immediately.

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"philo" wrote in message
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"attilathehun1" wrote in
message
...
Wait, I've been trying to stick the paper clip into the P1 connector
while
it's connected to the motherboard. I think I'm doing something wrong?
What
two points on the motherboard should I touch the screwdriver to? Or if
that's
not it, please tell me where or what to do.
I've built PCs and fixed many. So, your not dealing with a noobie, so
much,
here.


The push-button "on" switch would have to connect to the motherboard
through a two-pin push-on connector.
Simply unplug the connector and momentarily short the two pins on the
motherboard
together.
If the machine starts up and runs fine,,,
then your switch or it's wiring is bad...
but if the machine does not start...then the problem is not related to
the
push-button switch.

I'd test that before just going out and purchasing a new switch.

Check for anything you might have disturbed when you added the HD


Ever get the impression that you're being put-on? Could
anyone making the claim: "I've built PCs and fixed many.
So, your (sic) not dealing with a noobie, so much, here",
particularly after being spoonfed so much documented
information and assistance, REALLY be THAT inept?




You've made a good point...
but in my circuitous way of thinking...
If someone needs asks for help...
they need help
(whether they need help or not)

If you see what I mean

Are you talking about the pin where the green wire goes and black wires go? I
tried that by putting a paper clip, after taking off the P1 connector, into
the spot where the green connector goes, I think the fourth slot over, and
then where the black wire goes, 5 to 7 different spots, but I choose the
fifth slot over right next to the green wire. So, I put a paper clip that I
bent into a U into the 4th and 5th slots and nothing happened. I think now
there is a short, or the motherboard is shot.
--
attilathehun1


"philo" wrote:


"." wrote in message ...
"philo" wrote in message
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"attilathehun1" wrote in
message
...
Wait, I've been trying to stick the paper clip into the P1 connector
while
it's connected to the motherboard. I think I'm doing something wrong?
What
two points on the motherboard should I touch the screwdriver to? Or if
that's
not it, please tell me where or what to do.
I've built PCs and fixed many. So, your not dealing with a noobie, so
much,
here.


The push-button "on" switch would have to connect to the motherboard
through a two-pin push-on connector.
Simply unplug the connector and momentarily short the two pins on the
motherboard
together.
If the machine starts up and runs fine,,,
then your switch or it's wiring is bad...
but if the machine does not start...then the problem is not related to
the
push-button switch.

I'd test that before just going out and purchasing a new switch.

Check for anything you might have disturbed when you added the HD


Ever get the impression that you're being put-on? Could
anyone making the claim: "I've built PCs and fixed many.
So, your (sic) not dealing with a noobie, so much, here",
particularly after being spoonfed so much documented
information and assistance, REALLY be THAT inept?




You've made a good point...
but in my circuitous way of thinking...
If someone needs asks for help...
they need help
(whether they need help or not)

If you see what I mean