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'Tis a nice little utility/program Harry, but I don't know if you sound
happy or disappointed that nothing was found g Mart "webster72n" wrote in message ... Heather: I downloaded, installed and ran F-Prot successfully, with no malware or viruses found. What a nice little utility/program.. Thanks for the offering. Harry. "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry..... Shane's post added a lot of sense as well. The most important thing to do is practice *safe hex*......which really means common sense. No opening attachments from Aunt Maude without checking first, staying off unsafe websites, keeping all patches up to date on IE, and so on. I have a lot of things that I use over and above an AV and a firewall that make OE/IE safer. NOW....DO NOT put a second on-access scanner on your computer!! I have a second one on here, but it is the *manual* F-Prot for DOS.....it is free and I have used it longer than EZ Trust. It is my backup AV. I run it every month or two. It sometimes catches stuff that other AV's do not. But it does NOT run in the background....along with EZ Trust. I have to activate it myself to do a scan. I want you to understand the difference between manual and on-access scanners. Whew....I know I am being very firm!! But it is also very important that you do not do what you are thinking!! The analogy I like to use is.....picture two basketball players going for a jump ball......they crash into each other and guess what.....they miss the ball!! That is what will happen with two on access scanners.....they will both try to grab a virus and quite probably miss it. Comprendez? And I commend you for coming here FIRST and asking whether you should do something or not (sort of, grin)......I just saw where you were heading. Never, ever be afraid to ask about anything.....here is where you get your answers. Cheers....Heather (and I don't really bite......just growl a bit, grin) "webster72n" wrote in message ... If it didn't, it sure gave me a better insight, Heather. For all I can tell, AVG updates daily right now, at least for the last three to four days or so. It really does a nice job. The thing that makes it so hard for me to decide is, that I paid 40 $'s for EZArmor and hate to see it wasted. Is it really so important not to have a second Antivirus besides EZ, or would it actually tolerate it? Personally I don't see why not. I know very well, the choice is mine, in the end. Harry. "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry...... Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!! I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used. So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust. Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G). Heather.... "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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Definitely not disappointed, Mart. I will be using it just the way Heather is, about once or twice a month. I really like it and don't know how I did without it for so long. Cheers to you and everyone, with or without a g. Harry. "Mart" wrote in message ... 'Tis a nice little utility/program Harry, but I don't know if you sound happy or disappointed that nothing was found g Mart "webster72n" wrote in message ... Heather: I downloaded, installed and ran F-Prot successfully, with no malware or viruses found. What a nice little utility/program.. Thanks for the offering. Harry. "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry..... Shane's post added a lot of sense as well. The most important thing to do is practice *safe hex*......which really means common sense. No opening attachments from Aunt Maude without checking first, staying off unsafe websites, keeping all patches up to date on IE, and so on. I have a lot of things that I use over and above an AV and a firewall that make OE/IE safer. NOW....DO NOT put a second on-access scanner on your computer!! I have a second one on here, but it is the *manual* F-Prot for DOS.....it is free and I have used it longer than EZ Trust. It is my backup AV. I run it every month or two. It sometimes catches stuff that other AV's do not. But it does NOT run in the background....along with EZ Trust. I have to activate it myself to do a scan. I want you to understand the difference between manual and on-access scanners. Whew....I know I am being very firm!! But it is also very important that you do not do what you are thinking!! The analogy I like to use is.....picture two basketball players going for a jump ball......they crash into each other and guess what.....they miss the ball!! That is what will happen with two on access scanners.....they will both try to grab a virus and quite probably miss it. Comprendez? And I commend you for coming here FIRST and asking whether you should do something or not (sort of, grin)......I just saw where you were heading. Never, ever be afraid to ask about anything.....here is where you get your answers. Cheers....Heather (and I don't really bite......just growl a bit, grin) "webster72n" wrote in message ... If it didn't, it sure gave me a better insight, Heather. For all I can tell, AVG updates daily right now, at least for the last three to four days or so. It really does a nice job. The thing that makes it so hard for me to decide is, that I paid 40 $'s for EZArmor and hate to see it wasted. Is it really so important not to have a second Antivirus besides EZ, or would it actually tolerate it? Personally I don't see why not. I know very well, the choice is mine, in the end. Harry. "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry...... Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!! I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used. So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust. Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G). Heather.... "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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Shane wrote:
I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls. ? How come? I've never had any real problems with ZA; easy to install, etc.; mind you I've rolled back a few versions because I don't like fighting default settings I don't use (e-bay password, mailwasher) Rick |
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You're welcome, Harry, and you're most kind also.
Shane "webster72n" wrote in message ... Good to see you're back, Shane. Thank you for your far reaching advice. Harry. "Shane" wrote in message ... Hey Figgs! (and Harry), While last year I spent some time on acv/acav defending AGV during it's period of overloaded update servers (because you can still - easily - update defs manually), I'm a bit fed up with it now that it's happening again. I'm seriously considering going EZ Trust or (more likely) Kaspersky. I haven't searched the Grisoft ftp yet, but via http there seems no way to get *program* updates for AVG (as opposed to defs) other than via the program itself, which at the moment times out repeatedly. I've always considered that EZ Trust is better than AVG, but that AVG is enough if coupled with common sense, ie Safe Hex (and that no AV is enough without common sense!). I've stopped using Kerio 2.1.5 because it is so old. There are occasions when it's config file gets deleted for no apparent reason. I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls. Sygate Personal Firewall seems unable to install if *all* traces of the previous firewall are not first removed, although it installs to a clean-installed Win 9x without problems. I had used previous builds of Sygate PF, but stopped a year or so ago because it would occasionally crash (not something I want my firewall doing!). However, the current build seems to run (in 9x) OK. The current build does, however, appear to use WMI, which running from early in the boot process, interferes with ScanDefrag (and Scandisk generally) unless Sygate is closed first (and WMI stopped). This is a minor issue, of course, but an annoyance. However, the latest build of Kerio PF does not have installation issues or bugs that I'm presently aware of (I'm running it in XP). ATM I recommend Kerio 4.1.2 www.kerio.com/kpf. Shane "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry...... Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!! I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used. So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust. Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G). Heather.... "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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Hi Rick,
I think every version of ZA I've tried for the last couple of years has resulted in issues, right from the original build that stopped ME creating restore points. Up to then I'd been a dyed-in-the-wool ZA user. I put it on my sister's machine and there were regular freeze ups that stopped the moment I removed ZA and replaced it with Sygate (then Kerio). I know there was at least one other problem with a later ZA build (in ME), the nature of which my brain appears to have fifo'd! But last year I came across three examples of ZoneAlarm stopping the ability to send e-mail via OE (it could be received OK). That was on two XP machines and one ME machine, one ZAP and two ZAF. The cure was to delete all Allow/Block/Ask rules (none of which had any obvious bearing on the issue) and start again. Every time I've decided to give Zonelabs another chance there have been problems (besides which I got used to fine tuning rules with Kerio 2.x.x. I think for making one's own rules both Kerio and Sygate are more comprehensive! Or anyway more intuitive). Anyway, I won't deny it's my personal opinion - I didn't like their ditching the deskband - and I know you're not alone in *not* having problems with ZA. Shane "Rick T" wrote in message ... Shane wrote: I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls. ? How come? I've never had any real problems with ZA; easy to install, etc.; mind you I've rolled back a few versions because I don't like fighting default settings I don't use (e-bay password, mailwasher) Rick |
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Glad you like it, Harry. I have used it forever, it seems. It caught one
many years ago that Norton couldn't catch for months. Kakworm, perhaps? The memory is the first thing to go, grin. Cheers......Heather "webster72n" wrote in message ... Definitely not disappointed, Mart. I will be using it just the way Heather is, about once or twice a month. I really like it and don't know how I did without it for so long. Cheers to you and everyone, with or without a g. Harry. "Mart" wrote in message ... 'Tis a nice little utility/program Harry, but I don't know if you sound happy or disappointed that nothing was found g Mart "webster72n" wrote in message ... Heather: I downloaded, installed and ran F-Prot successfully, with no malware or viruses found. What a nice little utility/program.. Thanks for the offering. Harry. "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry..... Shane's post added a lot of sense as well. The most important thing to do is practice *safe hex*......which really means common sense. No opening attachments from Aunt Maude without checking first, staying off unsafe websites, keeping all patches up to date on IE, and so on. I have a lot of things that I use over and above an AV and a firewall that make OE/IE safer. NOW....DO NOT put a second on-access scanner on your computer!! I have a second one on here, but it is the *manual* F-Prot for DOS.....it is free and I have used it longer than EZ Trust. It is my backup AV. I run it every month or two. It sometimes catches stuff that other AV's do not. But it does NOT run in the background....along with EZ Trust. I have to activate it myself to do a scan. I want you to understand the difference between manual and on-access scanners. Whew....I know I am being very firm!! But it is also very important that you do not do what you are thinking!! The analogy I like to use is.....picture two basketball players going for a jump ball......they crash into each other and guess what.....they miss the ball!! That is what will happen with two on access scanners.....they will both try to grab a virus and quite probably miss it. Comprendez? And I commend you for coming here FIRST and asking whether you should do something or not (sort of, grin)......I just saw where you were heading. Never, ever be afraid to ask about anything.....here is where you get your answers. Cheers....Heather (and I don't really bite......just growl a bit, grin) "webster72n" wrote in message ... If it didn't, it sure gave me a better insight, Heather. For all I can tell, AVG updates daily right now, at least for the last three to four days or so. It really does a nice job. The thing that makes it so hard for me to decide is, that I paid 40 $'s for EZArmor and hate to see it wasted. Is it really so important not to have a second Antivirus besides EZ, or would it actually tolerate it? Personally I don't see why not. I know very well, the choice is mine, in the end. Harry. "Heather" wrote in message ... Hi Harry...... Yes, I like EZ Trust. I have used it (and the freebie InoculateIT PE version before) for at least 6 years at a guess. I had Norton 3 and went to that after getting 4 viruses because Norton was defective!! I can't tell you whether AVG & Sygate are better.....it is your choice. One thing in EZ Trust's favour tho, is that it updates every day.....AVG does not!! But if you practice *safe hex*, it matters not what you use. I can't remember the last time my AV went off......I have OE tweaked enough and an ISP that grabs viruses and spam, so that it rarely gets used. So in essence, it is your choice. If you like them, then keep them. If you prefer an AV that updates more often, then go for EZ Trust. Guess that didn't answer your question, did it (G). Heather.... "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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k, thanks Shane
Rick Shane wrote: Hi Rick, I think every version of ZA I've tried for the last couple of years has resulted in issues, right from the original build that stopped ME creating restore points. Up to then I'd been a dyed-in-the-wool ZA user. I put it on my sister's machine and there were regular freeze ups that stopped the moment I removed ZA and replaced it with Sygate (then Kerio). I know there was at least one other problem with a later ZA build (in ME), the nature of which my brain appears to have fifo'd! But last year I came across three examples of ZoneAlarm stopping the ability to send e-mail via OE (it could be received OK). That was on two XP machines and one ME machine, one ZAP and two ZAF. The cure was to delete all Allow/Block/Ask rules (none of which had any obvious bearing on the issue) and start again. Every time I've decided to give Zonelabs another chance there have been problems (besides which I got used to fine tuning rules with Kerio 2.x.x. I think for making one's own rules both Kerio and Sygate are more comprehensive! Or anyway more intuitive). Anyway, I won't deny it's my personal opinion - I didn't like their ditching the deskband - and I know you're not alone in *not* having problems with ZA. |
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Leaving aside the earlier noted problems with SR checkpoint prevention in a
few ZA versions, I have never had any problems with the free ZA on any WinME or XP machine. Considering that I am this galaxy's prime example of "Murphy's Law", I think that is very good. I realize others may have a quite different experience. User "error" is often the fundamental answer to such problems. A personal firewall, either software or hardware, is essential today, like an AV tool. IMO, not to use one is to be an irresponsible member of the internet community. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Shane" wrote in message ... Hi Rick, I think every version of ZA I've tried for the last couple of years has resulted in issues, right from the original build that stopped ME creating restore points. Up to then I'd been a dyed-in-the-wool ZA user. I put it on my sister's machine and there were regular freeze ups that stopped the moment I removed ZA and replaced it with Sygate (then Kerio). I know there was at least one other problem with a later ZA build (in ME), the nature of which my brain appears to have fifo'd! But last year I came across three examples of ZoneAlarm stopping the ability to send e-mail via OE (it could be received OK). That was on two XP machines and one ME machine, one ZAP and two ZAF. The cure was to delete all Allow/Block/Ask rules (none of which had any obvious bearing on the issue) and start again. Every time I've decided to give Zonelabs another chance there have been problems (besides which I got used to fine tuning rules with Kerio 2.x.x. I think for making one's own rules both Kerio and Sygate are more comprehensive! Or anyway more intuitive). Anyway, I won't deny it's my personal opinion - I didn't like their ditching the deskband - and I know you're not alone in *not* having problems with ZA. Shane "Rick T" wrote in message ... Shane wrote: I don't consider Zone Alarm a contender and so it's a toss up between Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls. ? How come? I've never had any real problems with ZA; easy to install, etc.; mind you I've rolled back a few versions because I don't like fighting default settings I don't use (e-bay password, mailwasher) Rick |
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You are very welcome, and ... it seems quite clear from the other part of
this thread that your head is screwed on correctly and with good humor. Happy computing, -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "webster72n" wrote in message ... That is extremely good advice, Jack. I shall make use of it accordingly. Thank you very much. Harry. "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... Here is where you can find out what is really happening with AV tools: The Virus Bulletin http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/ ICSA Labs - TrueSecure Corp. http://www.icsalabs.com/html/communi...products.shtml AV-Test http://www.av-test.org/ Several of my knowledgeable MVP colleagues use, and recommend, AVG, but I would never do so, despite its low cost (it's free). It has scored relatively poorly, IMO, for a long time. Since you already own eTrust Armor, I urge you to migrate to its AV tool, no mattter which personal firewall you choose. The eTrust AV has a small footprint, is fast, updates easily and quickly and often, and is highly rated. The CA eTrust version of the firewall is a rebranded version of the free Zone Alarm, so you have a huge user community on whom to depend, if necessary. If costs were no object, I would probably choose NOD32 as the AV tool: http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm based on the ratings from the above organizations, and from one of my MVP colleagues, who is very happy with it. I have no personal experience with it, nor any other reports about it from friends. HTH, -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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I needed that, Jack, thank you. Harry. "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... You are very welcome, and ... it seems quite clear from the other part of this thread that your head is screwed on correctly and with good humor. Happy computing, -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "webster72n" wrote in message ... That is extremely good advice, Jack. I shall make use of it accordingly. Thank you very much. Harry. "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... Here is where you can find out what is really happening with AV tools: The Virus Bulletin http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/ ICSA Labs - TrueSecure Corp. http://www.icsalabs.com/html/communi...products.shtml AV-Test http://www.av-test.org/ Several of my knowledgeable MVP colleagues use, and recommend, AVG, but I would never do so, despite its low cost (it's free). It has scored relatively poorly, IMO, for a long time. Since you already own eTrust Armor, I urge you to migrate to its AV tool, no mattter which personal firewall you choose. The eTrust AV has a small footprint, is fast, updates easily and quickly and often, and is highly rated. The CA eTrust version of the firewall is a rebranded version of the free Zone Alarm, so you have a huge user community on whom to depend, if necessary. If costs were no object, I would probably choose NOD32 as the AV tool: http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm based on the ratings from the above organizations, and from one of my MVP colleagues, who is very happy with it. I have no personal experience with it, nor any other reports about it from friends. HTH, -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "webster72n" wrote in message ... Hello Heather: Knowing that you are an advocate of EZArmor, I would like your opinion on whether to go back to EZAntivirus and EZFirewall, which I had lost and now retrieved the exe. files, or keep the AVG Antivirus and Sygate Firewall, which were installed for immediate protection. EZArmor requires uninstalling any other Antivirus Software, before using it. I must say that I like AVG & Sygate quite a lot. What's the verdict? Harry, old and would prefer it both ways. |
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