USA and Canada

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"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
You only need to realize which discipline your foe is using, then counter
with an appropriate discipline. For example, those who follow the school
of Clausewitz ("War is a wrestling match on a larger scale") can easily be
confounded by countering with Sun Tzu ("One hundred victories in one
hundred battles is not the most skillful. Seizing the enemy without
fighting is the most skillful").

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"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Aaaah - but I fear that your hope is a forlorn one, Richard.
This particular brand of total a&&hole has surfaced periodically (pun
intended) throughout the universe that is known as UseNet - and seems to
think that it has a divine right to publish "The Truth" - whether or not
that view of reality has any bearing on the subject at hand, or not.

to all:
Just back, late as usual.
I would like to use this thread for a case study, If anyone has an objection
pls reply, if not - have a nice Holiday Season.
Regards Paul
--
cogito ergo sum


"webster72n" wrote:


Heirloom:
Your idealism is commendable and, to an extent, even advisable.
We will take it under advisement accordingly, I hope.

Harry and full of ideas.

Trying to be Buda or Confucius (spelled like I wanted to)leads to much woe
"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
Discovering the answer to THAT question will lead to a lifetime of delight
and awe.

:-)

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"webster72n" wrote in message
...

Harry, who likes to think he is, but what ?.

Job!!! You old cat hair! Great to hear your face again. You really must
show up more often....'tis folks like you that make this group worthwhile
(and fun, too). Merry Christmas and a joyous New Year to you and yours.
Heirloom, old and had to slip one in

Oh yeah, Pat, do all the studying you like.
And, since you are doing a "case" study, I
am sure you can find, at least, one "really
severe case" g.


"Job" wrote in message
...
Hi Kids, Can I play too, can I, can I?

My daddy can beat up your daddy!

Oh yeah? Sez who?

Your mom wears brogans!

Just go ahead and spit over this line!

Bet ya won't knock this stick off my shoulder!

Well I'm tired now. Hope the recent spate of madness is
because of a full moon and that this Newsgroup can get back
to normal soon. GET A LIFE.

Job offers an old adage, "If you lay down with dogs you're
gonna get fleas."

"OldHillbilly" wrote in message
oups.com...
TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
America: The Good Neighbor.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
commentator. What follows is the full text of his
trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional
Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for
the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the
least
appreciated people on all the earth.
Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these
countries is today paying even the interest on its
remaining debts to the United States.
When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
streets
of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
59
American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
Nobody helped.
The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now
newspapers in those countries are writing about the
decadent, warmongering Americans.
I'd like to see just one of those countries that
is gloating over the erosion of the United States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
country
in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American
Planes?
Why does no other land on earth even consider
putting
a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about
German
technocracy, and you get automobiles.
You talk about American technocracy, and you find
men on the moon - not once, but several times -
and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
theirs
right in the store window for everybody to look at
.
Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and
hounded.
They are here on our streets, and most of them,
unless
they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting
American
dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India
were breaking down through age, it was the
Americans
who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad
and
the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them
an
old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
to the help of other people in trouble. Can you
name
me even one time when someone else raced to the
Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
outside
help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thing
with
their flag high. And when they do, they are
entitled
to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating
over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not
one of
those."
Stand proud, America!
Wear it proudly!!

H:
Who says, we can't have fun?
I dare you

Harry, with a lifetime of delight and awe ahead of him,
(or is it behind?)

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Job!!! You old cat hair! Great to hear your face again. You really
must
show up more often....'tis folks like you that make this group worthwhile
(and fun, too). Merry Christmas and a joyous New Year to you and yours.
Heirloom, old and had to slip one in

Oh yeah, Pat, do all the studying you like.
And, since you are doing a "case" study, I
am sure you can find, at least, one "really
severe case" g.


"Job" wrote in message
...
Hi Kids, Can I play too, can I, can I?

My daddy can beat up your daddy!

Oh yeah? Sez who?

Your mom wears brogans!

Just go ahead and spit over this line!

Bet ya won't knock this stick off my shoulder!

Well I'm tired now. Hope the recent spate of madness is
because of a full moon and that this Newsgroup can get back
to normal soon. GET A LIFE.

Job offers an old adage, "If you lay down with dogs you're
gonna get fleas."

"OldHillbilly" wrote in message
oups.com...
TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
America: The Good Neighbor.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
commentator. What follows is the full text of his
trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional
Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for
the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the
least
appreciated people on all the earth.
Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these
countries is today paying even the interest on its
remaining debts to the United States.
When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
streets
of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
59
American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
Nobody helped.
The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now
newspapers in those countries are writing about the
decadent, warmongering Americans.
I'd like to see just one of those countries that
is gloating over the erosion of the United States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
country
in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American
Planes?
Why does no other land on earth even consider
putting
a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about
German
technocracy, and you get automobiles.
You talk about American technocracy, and you find
men on the moon - not once, but several times -
and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
theirs
right in the store window for everybody to look at
.
Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and
hounded.
They are here on our streets, and most of them,
unless
they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting
American
dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India
were breaking down through age, it was the
Americans
who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad
and
the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them
an
old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
to the help of other people in trouble. Can you
name
me even one time when someone else raced to the
Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
outside
help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thing
with
their flag high. And when they do, they are
entitled
to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating
over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not
one of
those."
Stand proud, America!
Wear it proudly!!

Heirloom glad you show up considering you are a big XP
driver now.
I return your Merry Christmas and Happy New Year wishes.
I'm off
to sunny Florida next week for Christmas. Maybe talk with
you
after the first of the year (BUT NOT ON THIS THREAD, afraid
I
might get infected with rabies). Ta Ta for now.

Job has heard said, "Two people in every one is a
schizophrenic."

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Job!!! You old cat hair! Great to hear your face again.
You really must
show up more often....'tis folks like you that make this
group worthwhile
(and fun, too). Merry Christmas and a joyous New Year to
you and yours.
Heirloom, old and had
to slip one in

Oh yeah, Pat, do all the studying you like.
And, since you are doing a "case" study, I
am sure you can find, at least, one "really
severe case" g.


"Job" wrote in message
...
Hi Kids, Can I play too, can I, can I?

My daddy can beat up your daddy!

Oh yeah? Sez who?

Your mom wears brogans!

Just go ahead and spit over this line!

Bet ya won't knock this stick off my shoulder!

Well I'm tired now. Hope the recent spate of madness is
because of a full moon and that this Newsgroup can get
back
to normal soon. GET A LIFE.

Job offers an old adage, "If you lay down with dogs
you're
gonna get fleas."

"OldHillbilly" wrote in message

oups.com...
TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
America: The Good Neighbor.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was
given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast
from
Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian
television
commentator. What follows is the full text of
his
trenchant remarks as printed in the
Congressional
Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for
the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the
least
appreciated people on all the earth.
Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain
and
Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by
the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these
countries is today paying even the interest on
its
remaining debts to the United States.
When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
it was the Americans who propped it up, and
their
reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
streets
of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This
spring,
59
American communities were flattened by
tornadoes.
Nobody helped.
The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
billions of dollars into discouraged countries.
Now
newspapers in those countries are writing about
the
decadent, warmongering Americans.
I'd like to see just one of those countries that
is gloating over the erosion of the United
States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
country
in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing
Jumbo
Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American
Planes?
Why does no other land on earth even consider
putting
a man or woman on the moon? You talk about
Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about
German
technocracy, and you get automobiles.
You talk about American technocracy, and you
find
men on the moon - not once, but several times -
and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
theirs
right in the store window for everybody to look
at
.
Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and
hounded.
They are here on our streets, and most of them,
unless
they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting
American
dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India
were breaking down through age, it was the
Americans
who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad
and
the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned
them
an
old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans
raced
to the help of other people in trouble. Can you
name
me even one time when someone else raced to the
Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
outside
help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thing
with
their flag high. And when they do, they are
entitled
to thumb their nose at the lands that are
gloating
over their present troubles. I hope Canada is
not
one of
those."
Stand proud, America!
Wear it proudly!!

Now look what you did, OldHillbilly.
This Sugien *Tennager in a box* seems to rattle everyone's cage with his
*artificial* patriotism. The US he is talking about, is a thing of the past.
Ever since this latest edition of leadership in GB we are going down hill or
backwards, not ahead.
To justify his actions, he has to use or censor the media to propagate his
lies as being *legal*.
It is high time for us Americans to realize that fact, because the world
already knows it.
The display of military power doesn't compensate for humane inequities and
the extent of the present volume of terrorism was unduly aggrevated by the
wrongly motivated invasion of Iraq.
To change rhetoric down the course doesn't make it right either
Iraq before the *fall* never was a threat to our freedom, while it now just
might be.
I love this country, my country, but injustice or lies have to be opposed,
simply because we do so ourselves.

Harry.

"OldHillbilly" wrote in message
oups.com...
TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
America: The Good Neighbor.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
commentator. What follows is the full text of his
trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional
Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the least
appreciated people on all the earth.
Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these
countries is today paying even the interest on its
remaining debts to the United States.
When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets
of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59
American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
Nobody helped.
The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now
newspapers in those countries are writing about the
decadent, warmongering Americans.
I'd like to see just one of those countries that
is gloating over the erosion of the United States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country
in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American Planes?
Why does no other land on earth even consider putting
a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German
technocracy, and you get automobiles.
You talk about American technocracy, and you find
men on the moon - not once, but several times -
and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs
right in the store window for everybody to look at .
Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.
They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless
they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American
dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India
were breaking down through age, it was the Americans
who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and
the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an
old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name
me even one time when someone else raced to the
Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside
help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thing with
their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled
to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating
over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of
those."
Stand proud, America!
Wear it proudly!!

Harry
Well put. After several hours on my preferred groups (nothing to do with
computors) it was decided to drop it and declared it "qui nimium probat nihil
probat" (he who proves too much proves nothing). So lets it rest. Have a
joyeux Noël.
Paul
--
cogito ergo sum
76 and counting, I wake up talking to someone..
but nobody else in the room...


"webster72n" wrote:


Now look what you did, OldHillbilly.
This Sugien *Tennager in a box* seems to rattle everyone's cage with his
*artificial* patriotism. The US he is talking about, is a thing of the past.
Ever since this latest edition of leadership in GB we are going down hill or
backwards, not ahead.
To justify his actions, he has to use or censor the media to propagate his
lies as being *legal*.
It is high time for us Americans to realize that fact, because the world
already knows it.
The display of military power doesn't compensate for humane inequities and
the extent of the present volume of terrorism was unduly aggrevated by the
wrongly motivated invasion of Iraq.
To change rhetoric down the course doesn't make it right either
Iraq before the *fall* never was a threat to our freedom, while it now just
might be.
I love this country, my country, but injustice or lies have to be opposed,
simply because we do so ourselves.

Harry.

And a Merry Christmas to you too, or Noel, or whatever shoe fits, Paul, as
long as you are happy, that's what counts.
The 76, is it the number of posts under this subject?
BTW you may talk to yourself, but don't answer. If you do, it means *trouble
right here in river city*.
Thinking for myself and the right way always was fun to me.
But my knowledge of latin has become quite *rusty*.
Therefore I am relying on *Google* to help me out.

Harry
and *erare humanum est*.


"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
...

Harry
Well put. After several hours on my preferred groups (nothing to do
with
computors) it was decided to drop it and declared it "qui nimium probat
nihil
probat" (he who proves too much proves nothing). So lets it rest. Have a
joyeux Noël.
Paul
--
cogito ergo sum
76 and counting, I wake up talking to someone..
but nobody else in the room...


"webster72n" wrote:


Now look what you did, OldHillbilly.
This Sugien *Tennager in a box* seems to rattle everyone's cage with his
*artificial* patriotism. The US he is talking about, is a thing of the
past.
Ever since this latest edition of leadership in GB we are going down
hill or
backwards, not ahead.
To justify his actions, he has to use or censor the media to propagate
his
lies as being *legal*.
It is high time for us Americans to realize that fact, because the world
already knows it.
The display of military power doesn't compensate for humane inequities
and
the extent of the present volume of terrorism was unduly aggrevated by
the
wrongly motivated invasion of Iraq.
To change rhetoric down the course doesn't make it right either
Iraq before the *fall* never was a threat to our freedom, while it now
just
might be.
I love this country, my country, but injustice or lies have to be
opposed,
simply because we do so ourselves.

Harry.

Harry:
76 is my age. This is #160 as far as this thread is concerned. I
should have done what was suggested by Heater and many others Plonk, but as
you said "to err is human".
Paul
--
cogito ergo sum


"webster72n" wrote:


And a Merry Christmas to you too, or Noel, or whatever shoe fits, Paul, as
long as you are happy, that's what counts.
The 76, is it the number of posts under this subject?
BTW you may talk to yourself, but don't answer. If you do, it means *trouble
right here in river city*.
Thinking for myself and the right way always was fun to me.
But my knowledge of latin has become quite *rusty*.
Therefore I am relying on *Google* to help me out.

Harry
and *erare humanum est*.