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ME reinstallation produced "SUWIN caused GPF in module verx.dll" - amongst other things
My long, sad story............I let a friend of mine use an older laptop of
mine (DELL I8000 w/WinMe, 850MHz CPU, 30GB HD, 512MB Mem, DVD/CDROM, Floppy, CD Burner, Wireless PCMCIA, etc) at their workplace. They connected it to the company network. Their network engineer apparently (or so I was told) uninstalled PcHealth from it, stating they did so because it was causing problems for them on their network........blah, blah, blah. Needless to say, in doing so I lost not only PCHealth but MsInfo, SYSRestore, etc. Not wanting to dig too deeply for a fix I decided to re-install WinMe (sorry, not a clean re-install) just a redo over) from my OEM supplied CD. Ahhh & then the trouble began.........At about 65% completion of the install I got a dialog box stating -- "SUWIN caused a GPF in module verx.dll". I tried again & again & again. Note: I did all this using a start-up disk so I could do the re-install through a DOS prompt. I finally gave up, rebooted back into Windows & had several dll's & drivers missing (winspool.drv, etc) I reinstalled those using CAB files. However, I'm back to square one......still no PCHealth, SYSRestore & MSInfo. I tried getting the MSInfo back using a little "ditty" CAB extraction fix from Microsoft's web site but it didn't work. I've reviewed many of the user's forums out there but so many are conflicting or sound preposterous that I've given up & am asking this group for help. Only one deems mentioning because it's been expressed in several groups but with slight variations - that being the following because........ Yes, I DO HAVE IE 6.0 & WMP 9.0 on this laptop. quote "A reinstall of WinME when Win Media Player 9.0, IE 6.0 & Outlook Express 6.0 are present is a No No and will give VERX.dll errors" end quote - The suggested solution is: Reinstall of Win Me. Boot to DOS using a floppy and delete or rename the file wmploc.dll in the windows\system folder and then try reinstalling Win Me. This should work and now allow you to reinstall Win Me although you may well still have some problems with WMP. You also need to uninstall IE 6.0 before re-installing Win Me. If this is the case you might want to have a look at MS KB 312474 - "How to Remove Internet Explorer 6.0 or Outlook Express 6.0 Before You Reinstall Windows" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=312474) and 312451 - "How to Remove Internet Explorer 6 by Reinstalling Windows"(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=312451) and also KB 293907 - "How to Uninstall Internet Explorer 6" (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293907). You can also try this: IE 6.0: Rename c:\windows\system\iemigrat.dll *.old Rename c:\program files\Internet Explorer\W2k\migrate.dll *.old Rename c:\program files\outlook express\9xmig.dll *.old WMP 9.0: Rename c:\windows\system wmp*.dll *.old Rename c:\windows\system wmp.ocx *.xoc Rename c:\program files\windows media player wmp After that, run setup again. So, I'm in a conundrum......I don't want to make the above attempt without some knowledgeable input. I dread having more issues to deal with if it didn't go well and I don't want to reformat & do a clean install on this laptop because I use it for data storage & numerous downloads. It would prove to be such a huge hassle to do anything short of a re-install of WinME. Yes, I back it up, no it has nothing personal on it (I wouldn't have loaned it out). I know, I know, call me stupid for having done so. I just want SYSRestore & MSInfo back - it's that simple. I realize this may have come up before but I couldn't locate anything like it so I apologize for the redundancy in advance. Thanks, Liz -- Bitemebutt aka Liz aka E L Sulick, MD Man cannot responsibly govern himself. Hence, religion is the result of an adaptive process evolved to help Homo Sapiens overcome its anxiety about death - 'Godin' Footprints of God |
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ME reinstallation produced "SUWIN caused GPF in module verx.dll" - amongst other things
The only 'required' item from that fix is the renaming of WMPloc.dll - you
should then be able to reinstall ME OK - but look here for the full details of reinstalling ME over itself.... http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp "bitemebutt" wrote in message ... My long, sad story............I let a friend of mine use an older laptop of mine (DELL I8000 w/WinMe, 850MHz CPU, 30GB HD, 512MB Mem, DVD/CDROM, Floppy, CD Burner, Wireless PCMCIA, etc) at their workplace. They connected it to the company network. Their network engineer apparently (or so I was told) uninstalled PcHealth from it, stating they did so because it was causing problems for them on their network........blah, blah, blah. Needless to say, in doing so I lost not only PCHealth but MsInfo, SYSRestore, etc. Not wanting to dig too deeply for a fix I decided to re-install WinMe (sorry, not a clean re-install) just a redo over) from my OEM supplied CD. Ahhh & then the trouble began.........At about 65% completion of the install I got a dialog box stating -- "SUWIN caused a GPF in module verx.dll". I tried again & again & again. Note: I did all this using a start-up disk so I could do the re-install through a DOS prompt. I finally gave up, rebooted back into Windows & had several dll's & drivers missing (winspool.drv, etc) I reinstalled those using CAB files. However, I'm back to square one......still no PCHealth, SYSRestore & MSInfo. I tried getting the MSInfo back using a little "ditty" CAB extraction fix from Microsoft's web site but it didn't work. I've reviewed many of the user's forums out there but so many are conflicting or sound preposterous that I've given up & am asking this group for help. Only one deems mentioning because it's been expressed in several groups but with slight variations - that being the following because........ Yes, I DO HAVE IE 6.0 & WMP 9.0 on this laptop. quote "A reinstall of WinME when Win Media Player 9.0, IE 6.0 & Outlook Express 6.0 are present is a No No and will give VERX.dll errors" end quote - The suggested solution is: Reinstall of Win Me. Boot to DOS using a floppy and delete or rename the file wmploc.dll in the windows\system folder and then try reinstalling Win Me. This should work and now allow you to reinstall Win Me although you may well still have some problems with WMP. You also need to uninstall IE 6.0 before re-installing Win Me. If this is the case you might want to have a look at MS KB 312474 - "How to Remove Internet Explorer 6.0 or Outlook Express 6.0 Before You Reinstall Windows" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=312474) and 312451 - "How to Remove Internet Explorer 6 by Reinstalling Windows"(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=312451) and also KB 293907 - "How to Uninstall Internet Explorer 6" (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293907). You can also try this: IE 6.0: Rename c:\windows\system\iemigrat.dll *.old Rename c:\program files\Internet Explorer\W2k\migrate.dll *.old Rename c:\program files\outlook express\9xmig.dll *.old WMP 9.0: Rename c:\windows\system wmp*.dll *.old Rename c:\windows\system wmp.ocx *.xoc Rename c:\program files\windows media player wmp After that, run setup again. So, I'm in a conundrum......I don't want to make the above attempt without some knowledgeable input. I dread having more issues to deal with if it didn't go well and I don't want to reformat & do a clean install on this laptop because I use it for data storage & numerous downloads. It would prove to be such a huge hassle to do anything short of a re-install of WinME. Yes, I back it up, no it has nothing personal on it (I wouldn't have loaned it out). I know, I know, call me stupid for having done so. I just want SYSRestore & MSInfo back - it's that simple. I realize this may have come up before but I couldn't locate anything like it so I apologize for the redundancy in advance. Thanks, Liz -- Bitemebutt aka Liz aka E L Sulick, MD Man cannot responsibly govern himself. Hence, religion is the result of an adaptive process evolved to help Homo Sapiens overcome its anxiety about death - 'Godin' Footprints of God |
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ME reinstallation produced "SUWIN caused GPF in module verx.dll" - amongst other things
Thanks Noel! That sounds reasonable. I'll get back to the group with a
follow-up. I don't expect any surprises though. __________________________________________________ _______ "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... The only 'required' item from that fix is the renaming of WMPloc.dll - you should then be able to reinstall ME OK - but look here for the full details of reinstalling ME over itself.... http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp "bitemebutt" wrote in message ... My long, sad story............I let a friend of mine use an older laptop of mine (DELL I8000 w/WinMe, 850MHz CPU, 30GB HD, 512MB Mem, DVD/CDROM, Floppy, CD Burner, Wireless PCMCIA, etc) at their workplace. They connected it to the company network. Their network engineer apparently (or so I was told) uninstalled PcHealth from it, stating they did so because it was causing problems for them on their network........blah, blah, blah. Needless to say, in doing so I lost not only PCHealth but MsInfo, SYSRestore, etc. Not wanting to dig too deeply for a fix I decided to re-install WinMe (sorry, not a clean re-install) just a redo over) from my OEM supplied CD. Ahhh & then the trouble began.........At about 65% completion of the install I got a dialog box stating -- "SUWIN caused a GPF in module verx.dll". I tried again & again & again. Note: I did all this using a start-up disk so I could do the re-install through a DOS prompt. I finally gave up, rebooted back into Windows & had several dll's & drivers missing (winspool.drv, etc) I reinstalled those using CAB files. However, I'm back to square one......still no PCHealth, SYSRestore & MSInfo. I tried getting the MSInfo back using a little "ditty" CAB extraction fix from Microsoft's web site but it didn't work. I've reviewed many of the user's forums out there but so many are conflicting or sound preposterous that I've given up & am asking this group for help. Only one deems mentioning because it's been expressed in several groups but with slight variations - that being the following because........ Yes, I DO HAVE IE 6.0 & WMP 9.0 on this laptop. quote "A reinstall of WinME when Win Media Player 9.0, IE 6.0 & Outlook Express 6.0 are present is a No No and will give VERX.dll errors" end quote - The suggested solution is: Reinstall of Win Me. Boot to DOS using a floppy and delete or rename the file wmploc.dll in the windows\system folder and then try reinstalling Win Me. This should work and now allow you to reinstall Win Me although you may well still have some problems with WMP. You also need to uninstall IE 6.0 before re-installing Win Me. If this is the case you might want to have a look at MS KB 312474 - "How to Remove Internet Explorer 6.0 or Outlook Express 6.0 Before You Reinstall Windows" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=312474) and 312451 - "How to Remove Internet Explorer 6 by Reinstalling Windows"(http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=312451) and also KB 293907 - "How to Uninstall Internet Explorer 6" (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293907). You can also try this: IE 6.0: Rename c:\windows\system\iemigrat.dll *.old Rename c:\program files\Internet Explorer\W2k\migrate.dll *.old Rename c:\program files\outlook express\9xmig.dll *.old WMP 9.0: Rename c:\windows\system wmp*.dll *.old Rename c:\windows\system wmp.ocx *.xoc Rename c:\program files\windows media player wmp After that, run setup again. So, I'm in a conundrum......I don't want to make the above attempt without some knowledgeable input. I dread having more issues to deal with if it didn't go well and I don't want to reformat & do a clean install on this laptop because I use it for data storage & numerous downloads. It would prove to be such a huge hassle to do anything short of a re-install of WinME. Yes, I back it up, no it has nothing personal on it (I wouldn't have loaned it out). I know, I know, call me stupid for having done so. I just want SYSRestore & MSInfo back - it's that simple. I realize this may have come up before but I couldn't locate anything like it so I apologize for the redundancy in advance. Thanks, Liz -- Bitemebutt aka Liz aka E L Sulick, MD Man cannot responsibly govern himself. Hence, religion is the result of an adaptive process evolved to help Homo Sapiens overcome its anxiety about death - 'Godin' Footprints of God |
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ME reinstallation produced "SUWIN caused GPF in module verx.dll" - amongst other things
You don't??? g
Good Luck! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's or http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp "bitemebutt" wrote in message ... Thanks Noel! That sounds reasonable. I'll get back to the group with a follow-up. I don't expect any surprises though. __________________________________________________ _______ |
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ME reinstallation produced "SUWIN caused GPF in module verx.dll" - amongst other things
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:49:49 -0600, "bitemebutt"
My long, sad story............I let a friend of mine use an older laptop of mine (DELL I8000 w/WinMe, 850MHz CPU, 30GB HD, 512MB Mem, DVD/CDROM, Floppy, CD Burner, Wireless PCMCIA, etc) at their workplace. They connected it to the company network. Their network engineer apparently (or so I was told) uninstalled PcHealth from it, stating they did so because it was causing problems for them on their network........blah, blah, blah. Needless to say, in doing so I lost not only PCHealth but MsInfo, SYSRestore, etc. So far, so OK. Just a story about why cavalier sysamins suck or (from the other side of the fence) why connecting arbitrary PCs to an in-house network is a Bad Idea. Not wanting to dig too deeply for a fix I decided to re-install WinMe (sorry, not a clean re-install) just a redo over) from my OEM supplied CD. Well, that's where the pain starts. Instead of tshooting a problem (which likely needed about 32 bytes typed into two locations via Regedit to fix) you did a broadsword steam-roller move that has wrought a massive number of changes that will likely be more difficult to troubleshoot than the original problem. If you're lazy on undoing one change, do you feel up to this new task? Out the box, WinME is unfit for use on the Internet (one reason alone: Broken IE HTML rendering engine allows MIME-spoofing attack, as routinely used by malware since 2001) and several other subsystems are broken. For example, the SR you wanted back is dead in the water unless you reapply the patch that "just re-installing Windows" broke. WinME's (re)installation process is cavalier about version differences; it nukes everything back to its own baseline versions. Not only is that "goodbye all patches", it also breaks horribly on several core subsystem upgrades, e.g. IE, DirectX, Media Player. See http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/sr-sfp.htm on the PC Health and SR/SFP subsystems, http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/winme.htm on WinME in general, and http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/mimehole.htm on the MIME-spoofing bug. --------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - Never turn your back on an installer program --------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - |
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