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Old September 5th 08, 10:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Pleasure
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Default Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?

A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer
won't start and it is in Safe MODE. Can I get out and start my computer
without the startup disk and if so how?

Thanks
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Old September 5th 08, 11:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Don Phillipson[_5_]
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Default Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?

"Pleasure" wrote in message
...

A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my
computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE.


We interpret this to mean your PC will start but
only in Safe Mode and you want to know how to
start Windows in Normal Mode (and you have no
special backup measures in place.)

It is worth trying a reboot to DOS and
c:\windows\scanreg /restore
when you ought to see a menu of 5 earllier dates
between which you can choose to start with the
Registry as it used to be. Even if Windows does
not start OK the error messages may tell you what
system files have been removed or damaged.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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Old September 6th 08, 01:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Brian A.
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Default Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?

What exactly did your friend "work on"? Please provide more details to better
help others help you.

Also have a look-see at:
Troubleshooting Windows 98 Startup Problems
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q188867

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q192926

Also read “Clean Boot -- What it is and why you need it” by MS MVP Gary Terhune.
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

Windows 98 or Windows 95 Defaults to Safe Mode Even After Successful Start
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q143283

The Computer Always Starts in Safe Mode
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q306615

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"Pleasure" wrote in message
...
A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer
won't start and it is in Safe MODE. Can I get out and start my computer
without the startup disk and if so how?

Thanks


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Old September 6th 08, 09:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jeff Richards
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Default Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?

Starting in safe mode is not a basis for restoring a registry. That restore
will wipe out any changes in registry settings since the last backup, but
will not undo any of the associated changes to files. OP should NOT use a
registry restore for such a simple problem, unless all other attempts to fix
it have failed.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
"Pleasure" wrote in message
...

A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my
computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE.


We interpret this to mean your PC will start but
only in Safe Mode and you want to know how to
start Windows in Normal Mode (and you have no
special backup measures in place.)

It is worth trying a reboot to DOS and
c:\windows\scanreg /restore
when you ought to see a menu of 5 earllier dates
between which you can choose to start with the
Registry as it used to be. Even if Windows does
not start OK the error messages may tell you what
system files have been removed or damaged.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)




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Old September 6th 08, 11:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill in Co.
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Default Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?

Jeff Richards wrote:
Starting in safe mode is not a basis for restoring a registry. That
restore
will wipe out any changes in registry settings since the last backup, but
will not undo any of the associated changes to files.


EXCEPT for system.dat and user.dat (and perhaps win.ini and system.ini).
Who knows, maybe that's enough.

OP should NOT use a
registry restore for such a simple problem, unless all other attempts to
fix
it have failed.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
"Pleasure" wrote in message
...

A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my
computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE.


We interpret this to mean your PC will start but
only in Safe Mode and you want to know how to
start Windows in Normal Mode (and you have no
special backup measures in place.)

It is worth trying a reboot to DOS and
c:\windows\scanreg /restore
when you ought to see a menu of 5 earllier dates
between which you can choose to start with the
Registry as it used to be. Even if Windows does
not start OK the error messages may tell you what
system files have been removed or damaged.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



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Old September 8th 08, 02:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
glee
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Default Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?

Find out exactly what your friend did when they "worked on" your computer.
Did it work normally up through the last time they shut it down?
Did they install or update anything?

In Safe Mode, reset the display settings to a low setting. Your friend may have set
the display to settings it can't support.

They may have changed or updated some driver or software to a configuration that is
unsupported.

Windows 98 or Windows 95 Defaults to Safe Mode
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=143283

The Computer Always Starts in Safe Mode
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306615

Troubleshooting Windows 95 Using Safe Mode:
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=156126

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"Pleasure" wrote in message
...
A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer
won't start and it is in Safe MODE. Can I get out and start my computer
without the startup disk and if so how?

Thanks


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Old September 9th 08, 01:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jeff Richards
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Default Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?

System.DAT and User.DAT are the registry - that's what gets restored.

Restoring these files without also changing whatever else the friend altered
puts the machine in an inconsistent state. Maybe it's important, maybe not,
but there's always a risk it will make the problem worse rather than better.
We don't even know if the machine really is in safe mode, or if OP simply
thinks it is because the screen resolution has defaulted to 640x480. There
are many simpler fixes that are worth trying before resorting to an action
that can create significant additional problems.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Jeff Richards wrote:
Starting in safe mode is not a basis for restoring a registry. That
restore
will wipe out any changes in registry settings since the last backup, but
will not undo any of the associated changes to files.


EXCEPT for system.dat and user.dat (and perhaps win.ini and system.ini).
Who knows, maybe that's enough.

OP should NOT use a
registry restore for such a simple problem, unless all other attempts to
fix
it have failed.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
"Pleasure" wrote in message
...

A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my
computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE.

We interpret this to mean your PC will start but
only in Safe Mode and you want to know how to
start Windows in Normal Mode (and you have no
special backup measures in place.)

It is worth trying a reboot to DOS and
c:\windows\scanreg /restore
when you ought to see a menu of 5 earllier dates
between which you can choose to start with the
Registry as it used to be. Even if Windows does
not start OK the error messages may tell you what
system files have been removed or damaged.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)





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Old September 9th 08, 05:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill in Co.
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Default Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?

Jeff Richards wrote:
System.DAT and User.DAT are the registry - that's what gets restored.


Right, which is what I said. AND perhaps win.ini and system.ini.

Restoring these files without also changing whatever else the friend
altered
puts the machine in an inconsistent state.


Perhaps, but that really depends on what changes took place. I've done
it on countless occasions, but I know what I am doing when I do it. And
know its limitations.

Maybe it's important, maybe not,
but there's always a risk it will make the problem worse rather than
better.


Slight risk. He can always restore the previous registry backup, if he
wants. (I usually run scanreg once just before doing this so I have a
recent one to fall back to, if needbe).

We don't even know if the machine really is in safe mode, or if OP simply
thinks it is because the screen resolution has defaulted to 640x480.


Either way, scanreg /restore may cure that too, without much detailed
troubleshooting (which is more expedient in some cases).

There are many simpler fixes that are worth trying before resorting to an
action that can create significant additional problems.


Again, he can always roll back to another backup IF it should be a problem.
I think I must be much more used to running scanreg /restore than you (due
to all the "experiments" I've done on my Win98SE system). So for me, it's
no biggie at all, but as I've said, I think I know what I'm doing, when I do
it. :-) ( I also keep a very diligent track of the SFC log, on a
routine basis, etc, often running SFC, particularly just before and after a
new software installation).


Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Jeff Richards wrote:
Starting in safe mode is not a basis for restoring a registry. That
restore
will wipe out any changes in registry settings since the last backup,
but
will not undo any of the associated changes to files.


EXCEPT for system.dat and user.dat (and perhaps win.ini and system.ini).
Who knows, maybe that's enough.

OP should NOT use a
registry restore for such a simple problem, unless all other attempts to
fix it have failed.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
"Pleasure" wrote in message
...

A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my
computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE.

We interpret this to mean your PC will start but
only in Safe Mode and you want to know how to
start Windows in Normal Mode (and you have no
special backup measures in place.)

It is worth trying a reboot to DOS and
c:\windows\scanreg /restore
when you ought to see a menu of 5 earllier dates
between which you can choose to start with the
Registry as it used to be. Even if Windows does
not start OK the error messages may tell you what
system files have been removed or damaged.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



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Old September 9th 08, 12:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
dave
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Default Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?


The Computer Always Starts in Safe Mode
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306615


Thats not much help.... MS says site is not available.



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Old September 9th 08, 04:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_2_]
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Just a reminder:

We now have the MS 98 PORTAL address that must be used. All prior links to
KB articles have been moved into the portal/general support area of
Microsoft services.

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