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Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?
A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer
won't start and it is in Safe MODE. Can I get out and start my computer without the startup disk and if so how? Thanks |
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Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?
"Pleasure" wrote in message
... A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE. We interpret this to mean your PC will start but only in Safe Mode and you want to know how to start Windows in Normal Mode (and you have no special backup measures in place.) It is worth trying a reboot to DOS and c:\windows\scanreg /restore when you ought to see a menu of 5 earllier dates between which you can choose to start with the Registry as it used to be. Even if Windows does not start OK the error messages may tell you what system files have been removed or damaged. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?
What exactly did your friend "work on"? Please provide more details to better
help others help you. Also have a look-see at: Troubleshooting Windows 98 Startup Problems http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q188867 How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98 http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q192926 Also read “Clean Boot -- What it is and why you need it” by MS MVP Gary Terhune. http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm Windows 98 or Windows 95 Defaults to Safe Mode Even After Successful Start http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q143283 The Computer Always Starts in Safe Mode http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q306615 -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Pleasure" wrote in message ... A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE. Can I get out and start my computer without the startup disk and if so how? Thanks |
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Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?
Starting in safe mode is not a basis for restoring a registry. That restore
will wipe out any changes in registry settings since the last backup, but will not undo any of the associated changes to files. OP should NOT use a registry restore for such a simple problem, unless all other attempts to fix it have failed. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... "Pleasure" wrote in message ... A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE. We interpret this to mean your PC will start but only in Safe Mode and you want to know how to start Windows in Normal Mode (and you have no special backup measures in place.) It is worth trying a reboot to DOS and c:\windows\scanreg /restore when you ought to see a menu of 5 earllier dates between which you can choose to start with the Registry as it used to be. Even if Windows does not start OK the error messages may tell you what system files have been removed or damaged. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?
Jeff Richards wrote:
Starting in safe mode is not a basis for restoring a registry. That restore will wipe out any changes in registry settings since the last backup, but will not undo any of the associated changes to files. EXCEPT for system.dat and user.dat (and perhaps win.ini and system.ini). Who knows, maybe that's enough. OP should NOT use a registry restore for such a simple problem, unless all other attempts to fix it have failed. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... "Pleasure" wrote in message ... A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE. We interpret this to mean your PC will start but only in Safe Mode and you want to know how to start Windows in Normal Mode (and you have no special backup measures in place.) It is worth trying a reboot to DOS and c:\windows\scanreg /restore when you ought to see a menu of 5 earllier dates between which you can choose to start with the Registry as it used to be. Even if Windows does not start OK the error messages may tell you what system files have been removed or damaged. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?
Find out exactly what your friend did when they "worked on" your computer.
Did it work normally up through the last time they shut it down? Did they install or update anything? In Safe Mode, reset the display settings to a low setting. Your friend may have set the display to settings it can't support. They may have changed or updated some driver or software to a configuration that is unsupported. Windows 98 or Windows 95 Defaults to Safe Mode http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=143283 The Computer Always Starts in Safe Mode http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306615 Troubleshooting Windows 95 Using Safe Mode: http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=156126 -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "Pleasure" wrote in message ... A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE. Can I get out and start my computer without the startup disk and if so how? Thanks |
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System.DAT and User.DAT are the registry - that's what gets restored.
Restoring these files without also changing whatever else the friend altered puts the machine in an inconsistent state. Maybe it's important, maybe not, but there's always a risk it will make the problem worse rather than better. We don't even know if the machine really is in safe mode, or if OP simply thinks it is because the screen resolution has defaulted to 640x480. There are many simpler fixes that are worth trying before resorting to an action that can create significant additional problems. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... Jeff Richards wrote: Starting in safe mode is not a basis for restoring a registry. That restore will wipe out any changes in registry settings since the last backup, but will not undo any of the associated changes to files. EXCEPT for system.dat and user.dat (and perhaps win.ini and system.ini). Who knows, maybe that's enough. OP should NOT use a registry restore for such a simple problem, unless all other attempts to fix it have failed. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... "Pleasure" wrote in message ... A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE. We interpret this to mean your PC will start but only in Safe Mode and you want to know how to start Windows in Normal Mode (and you have no special backup measures in place.) It is worth trying a reboot to DOS and c:\windows\scanreg /restore when you ought to see a menu of 5 earllier dates between which you can choose to start with the Registry as it used to be. Even if Windows does not start OK the error messages may tell you what system files have been removed or damaged. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?
Jeff Richards wrote:
System.DAT and User.DAT are the registry - that's what gets restored. Right, which is what I said. AND perhaps win.ini and system.ini. Restoring these files without also changing whatever else the friend altered puts the machine in an inconsistent state. Perhaps, but that really depends on what changes took place. I've done it on countless occasions, but I know what I am doing when I do it. And know its limitations. Maybe it's important, maybe not, but there's always a risk it will make the problem worse rather than better. Slight risk. He can always restore the previous registry backup, if he wants. (I usually run scanreg once just before doing this so I have a recent one to fall back to, if needbe). We don't even know if the machine really is in safe mode, or if OP simply thinks it is because the screen resolution has defaulted to 640x480. Either way, scanreg /restore may cure that too, without much detailed troubleshooting (which is more expedient in some cases). There are many simpler fixes that are worth trying before resorting to an action that can create significant additional problems. Again, he can always roll back to another backup IF it should be a problem. I think I must be much more used to running scanreg /restore than you (due to all the "experiments" I've done on my Win98SE system). So for me, it's no biggie at all, but as I've said, I think I know what I'm doing, when I do it. :-) ( I also keep a very diligent track of the SFC log, on a routine basis, etc, often running SFC, particularly just before and after a new software installation). Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... Jeff Richards wrote: Starting in safe mode is not a basis for restoring a registry. That restore will wipe out any changes in registry settings since the last backup, but will not undo any of the associated changes to files. EXCEPT for system.dat and user.dat (and perhaps win.ini and system.ini). Who knows, maybe that's enough. OP should NOT use a registry restore for such a simple problem, unless all other attempts to fix it have failed. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... "Pleasure" wrote in message ... A friend worked on my computer while I was out. When I got home my computer won't start and it is in Safe MODE. We interpret this to mean your PC will start but only in Safe Mode and you want to know how to start Windows in Normal Mode (and you have no special backup measures in place.) It is worth trying a reboot to DOS and c:\windows\scanreg /restore when you ought to see a menu of 5 earllier dates between which you can choose to start with the Registry as it used to be. Even if Windows does not start OK the error messages may tell you what system files have been removed or damaged. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?
The Computer Always Starts in Safe Mode http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306615 Thats not much help.... MS says site is not available. Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm |
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Exit Safe Mode without Startup Disk?
Just a reminder:
We now have the MS 98 PORTAL address that must be used. All prior links to KB articles have been moved into the portal/general support area of Microsoft services. -- MEB a Peoples' counsel The former peoplescounsel site has now been removed, presently looking for another host. The former service/address will not provide a redirect to whatever the new site will be.. -- _________ |
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