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  #31  
Old June 10th 09, 04:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
JohnN
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Posts: 24
Default Unable to Install Driver

Hi Mike,

Dont buy an adapter to prove your installation is OK; I'm sure it is and
that if I can get the Driver installed I think my adapter will be OK.
I'm having second thoughts about the merits of re-installing WinME!

Regards John

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart,

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to
install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of
the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but
unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In
contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the
drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since
I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was
correct.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

Hi Mike & John,

'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
but although :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44
implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
5 of the User Manual :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf
WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
reduced"
Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
'Software Installation'
My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.




  #32  
Old June 10th 09, 09:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Mart
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,190
Default Unable to Install Driver

Mike wrote :-

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot
even get the driver to install, instead the installer just
hangs and never completes.


.. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing
the drivers before inserting the device...


Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the
device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE
running the driver (and software) installation utility.

FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB
2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more
particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.

A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled
before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out
any details.

That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick
(Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which
only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely
different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One
always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's
(hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other
USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using
the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally)
reliable.

I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?

Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE

snip
" Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows
NT 4.0?

A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or
Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all
wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows.

To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or
Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by
your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for
the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X
authentication settings.
/snip

So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due
to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and
USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech
Support.

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart,

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to
install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of
the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but
unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In
contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the
drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since
I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was
correct.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

Hi Mike & John,

'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
but although :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44
implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
5 of the User Manual :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf
WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
reduced"
Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
'Software Installation'
My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.




  #33  
Old June 10th 09, 10:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Mike M
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Posts: 2,047
Default Unable to Install Driver

Mart,

Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers on
his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I feel
that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant. However I
think the most important point from your post is the possible differences in
behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.

Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB 1.0
ports.

I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. g If nothing
else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box.
I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last
night.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions
require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard
immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation
utility.
FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a
Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1
port and
more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.

A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage
to find out any details.

That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi
stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different
laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I
fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA
(Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other
displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install
process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one
didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port
for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable.

I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?

Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE

snip
" Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
Windows NT 4.0?

A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows
98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must
supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these
versions of Windows.
To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows
98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool
provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see
the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure
802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings.
/snip

So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could
be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that
WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could
try Ralink Tech Support.


  #34  
Old June 11th 09, 09:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
JohnN
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Posts: 24
Default Unable to Install Driver

A couple of points Mark;

At the moment my problem as Mike states is trying to get the unzipped
driver application to install ,not the USB port;however my USB port is 1.1,
but if Mike has no problems with this I assume the USB 1.1 port will be OK

John


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote :-

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot
even get the driver to install, instead the installer just
hangs and never completes.


.. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing
the drivers before inserting the device...


Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require
the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE
running the driver (and software) installation utility.

FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit
USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and
more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.

A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to
find out any details.

That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick
(Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which
only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely
different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One
always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's
(hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with
other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up
using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally)
reliable.

I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?

Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE

snip
" Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
Windows NT 4.0?

A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or
Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all
wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows.

To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or
Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by
your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions
for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X
authentication settings.
/snip

So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be
due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe
and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink
Tech Support.

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart,

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver
to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of
the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but
unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In
contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the
drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop
since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation
was correct.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

Hi Mike & John,

'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
but although :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44
implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
5 of the User Manual :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf
WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
reduced"
Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
'Software Installation'
My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.






  #35  
Old June 11th 09, 12:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Mart
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,190
Default Unable to Install Driver

Mike/John

.. I think the most important point from your post
is the possible differences in behaviour between
systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.


Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The UK
site :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44
includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :-
http://www.edimax.com/en/support_det...1_id=1&pl2_id=
does not.

I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file is not
recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to enumerate the
wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the drivers will
(apparently) install but the system then halts before completion.

Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart,

Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers
on his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I
feel that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant.
However I think the most important point from your post is the possible
differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.

Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB 1.0
ports.

I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. g If nothing
else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box.
I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last
night.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions
require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard
immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation
utility.
FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a
Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1
port and
more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.

A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage
to find out any details.

That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi
stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different
laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I
fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA
(Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other
displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install
process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one
didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port
for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable.

I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?

Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE

snip
" Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
Windows NT 4.0?

A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows
98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must
supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these
versions of Windows.
To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows
98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool
provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see
the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure
802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings.
/snip

So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could
be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that
WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could
try Ralink Tech Support.




  #36  
Old June 11th 09, 12:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
Mart
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,190
Default Unable to Install Driver

Just a thought John, (see also my other reply) what happens if you try to
run the setup application WITHOUT the stick plugged in?

Error reports? Completion??

If completion, what then happens if you plug the stick in?

Any errors in Device Manager? etc. etc.

Mart



"JohnN" wrote in message
. uk...
A couple of points Mark;

At the moment my problem as Mike states is trying to get the unzipped
driver application to install ,not the USB port;however my USB port is
1.1, but if Mike has no problems with this I assume the USB 1.1 port will
be OK

John


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote :-

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot
even get the driver to install, instead the installer just
hangs and never completes.


.. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing
the drivers before inserting the device...


Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require
the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately
BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility.

FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit
USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and
more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.

A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to
find out any details.

That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick
(Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which
only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely
different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One
always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to
John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally
with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I
ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not
totally) reliable.

I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?

Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE

snip
" Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
Windows NT 4.0?

A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98,
or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all
wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows.

To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98,
or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided
by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the
instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and
802.1X authentication settings.
/snip

So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be
due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe
and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink
Tech Support.

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart,

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver
to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware
of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device,
but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere.
In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install
the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop
since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation
was correct.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

Hi Mike & John,

'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
but although :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44
implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
5 of the User Manual :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf
WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
reduced"
Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
'Software Installation'
My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.







  #37  
Old June 11th 09, 12:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
JohnN
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 24
Default Unable to Install Driver

Hi Mike

These are the folders/files that get installed; I'd be interested to know
from you which files I dont install?(ie those omitted from the complete
installation.

C:\Program Files\RalinkCommonRACONFIGCHN;RACONFIGENG;RaUI;R aUI
C:\Program Files\RalinkRT7xWireless
LANCardDriverColnstaller.dll;difxapi.dll;Ralnst; Ralnst64;RalOx64;rt25u98;tr25u98.sys;setacl
C:\Program Files\RalinkRT7xWireless
LANCardUtilityRACONFIGCHN;RACONFIGENG;RaUI;RaUI

StartProgramsRalink WirelessRalink Utility

Clicking this Ralink Utilty only puts an Icon in the system tray which does
nothing.

John

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart,

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to
install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of
the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but
unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In
contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the
drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since
I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was
correct.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

Hi Mike & John,

'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
but although :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44
implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
5 of the User Manual :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf
WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
reduced"
Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
'Software Installation'
My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.




  #38  
Old June 11th 09, 01:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
JohnN
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 24
Default Unable to Install Driver

Hi Mart,

With or without stick ;all combinations tried - same result,

As stated previously, Device Manager shows 'unknown device' and attempts to
update driver = not found, indicating driver installation has not completed,
as we know!

John

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Just a thought John, (see also my other reply) what happens if you try to
run the setup application WITHOUT the stick plugged in?

Error reports? Completion??

If completion, what then happens if you plug the stick in?

Any errors in Device Manager? etc. etc.

Mart



"JohnN" wrote in message
. uk...
A couple of points Mark;

At the moment my problem as Mike states is trying to get the unzipped
driver application to install ,not the USB port;however my USB port is
1.1, but if Mike has no problems with this I assume the USB 1.1 port will
be OK

John


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote :-

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot
even get the driver to install, instead the installer just
hangs and never completes.

.. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing
the drivers before inserting the device...

Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require
the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately
BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation utility.

FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit
USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and
more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.

A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to
find out any details.

That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick
(Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which
only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely
different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One
always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to
John's (hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally
with other USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I
ended up using the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but
not totally) reliable.

I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?

Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE

snip
" Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
Windows NT 4.0?

A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98,
or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply
all wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of
Windows.

To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98,
or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided
by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the
instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and
802.1X authentication settings.
/snip

So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be
due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe
and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink
Tech Support.

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart,

What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver
to install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If
he could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am
aware of the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the
device, but unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going
nowhere. In contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to
install the drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I
had to stop since I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver
installation was correct.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

Hi Mike & John,

'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
but although :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44
implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
5 of the User Manual :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image...anual-0710.pdf
WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
reduced"
Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
'Software Installation'
My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.









  #39  
Old June 11th 09, 01:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
JohnN
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Posts: 24
Default Unable to Install Driver

Hi Mark,

I've tried Edimax Tech Support and like Mike they have no problems with ME
Driver installation.

John
"Mart" wrote in message
...
Mike/John

.. I think the most important point from your post
is the possible differences in behaviour between
systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.


Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The UK
site :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44
includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :-
http://www.edimax.com/en/support_det...1_id=1&pl2_id=
does not.

I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file is
not recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to enumerate the
wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the drivers will
(apparently) install but the system then halts before completion.

Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart,

Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers
on his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I
feel that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant.
However I think the most important point from your post is the possible
differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.

Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB
1.0 ports.

I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. g If nothing
else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box.
I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last
night.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions
require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard
immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation
utility.
FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a
Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1
port and
more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.

A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage
to find out any details.

That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi
stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different
laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I
fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA
(Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other
displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install
process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one
didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port
for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable.

I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?

Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE

snip
" Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
Windows NT 4.0?

A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows
98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must
supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these
versions of Windows.
To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows
98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool
provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see
the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure
802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings.
/snip

So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could
be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that
WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could
try Ralink Tech Support.






  #40  
Old June 11th 09, 02:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.networking
JohnN
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 24
Default Unable to Install Driver


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Mike/John

.. I think the most important point from your post
is the possible differences in behaviour between
systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.


Fair point, however something weird about Edimax's web sites too. The UK
site :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_d...id=1&pl2_id=44
includes WinMe drivers, but their International site :-
http://www.edimax.com/en/support_det...1_id=1&pl2_id=
does not.

I wonder if there is a firmware issue here and perhaps the .inf file is
not recognised or fully acted upon by WinMe when it tries to enumerate the
wireless stick. I suppose it could explain that the drivers will
(apparently) install but the system then halts before completion.

Again, perhaps a time for Edimax Tech Support :-
http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_tech.php


I've tried Tech Support but like Mike they have no problems installing WinME
driver.

John

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Mart,

Nevertheless the question remains is why John cannot install the drivers
on his system. Until he can do this without the installer hanging then I
feel that the order in which things are done is for now irrelevant.
However I think the most important point from your post is the possible
differences in behaviour between systems with USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.

Incidentally the system I was using to install the driver only has USB
1.0 ports.

I'm becoming increasingly tempted to lash out that £8.12. g If nothing
else I could remove the network cable currently running to my Win Me box.
I'd have lashed out already if my preferred router hadn't died on me last
night.
--
Mike Maltby



Mart wrote:

Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions
require the device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard
immediately BEFORE running the driver (and software) installation
utility.
FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a
Gigabit USB 2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1
port and
more particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.

A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got
pulled before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage
to find out any details.

That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi
stick (Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different
laptops which only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I
fitted completely different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA
(Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One always worked correctly and the other
displayed similar symptoms to John's (hanging during the install
process). Both cards worked normally with other USB devices but one
didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using the USB1.0 port
for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally) reliable.

I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?

Extract form MSN TechNet article:-
Wireless LAN Support in Windows: Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...faq.mspx#E3BAE

snip
" Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and
Windows NT 4.0?

A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows
98, or Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must
supply all wireless and authentication functionality for these
versions of Windows.
To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows
98, or Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool
provided by your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see
the instructions for the wireless configuration tool to configure
802.11 and 802.1X authentication settings.
/snip

So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could
be due to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that
WinMe and USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could
try Ralink Tech Support.






 




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