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As for Kerio 2.l.5
Shane is right cant be used, but I did for years on Win Me but hast been updated since Oct.06 and now its V. 4.x from Sunbelt and 3 months trial. No, it *can* be used. I've been running 2.1.5 - with Windows Firewall enabled - in XP since pre-SP1. I have it running right now in SP3, with Windows Firewall and a router with hardware firewall. Once upon a time - and before the router, not that the router is a drain - this was with a measly 256MB RAM, without performance issues. The Sunbelt continuation of Kerio PF is still free, it just runs in full mode for however long (3 months?), after which if you don't want the extras it continues in basic mode. I doubt it would be as compatible with Windows Firewall as 2.1.5 is, so I would turn the latter off were I running it. And I would be running it were it not for I only need one for monitoring outboound traffic - and you can't get much less obtrusive than 2.1.5 (as you doubtless know!). I also use it - or variations thereof (2.1.4 - and the Tiny version) in virtual machines that are themselves behind the router and running on XP running 2.1.5 and WF! Shane |
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I'm a strong believer in both a router firewall and a good one (not MSs built
in) on the computer. Speaking of firewalls, don't listen to the ISP rep who suggests using the same password for the router as the Administrator sign on. Before the jokes about me using two condoms, yes I believe in protect, protect, protect. -- I mastered Wordstar graphics! "Lucas Wader-Magneto" wrote: And FWIW, if you connect up a 3rd party firewall and/or a router, they automatically turn the XP firewall off. Modern ones do. Kerio 2.1.5 doesn't. I don't know about the other old ones, as I don't consider any of them unobtrusive enough or light on resources to run alongside other firewalls and/or solely for monitoring outbound traffic. I've been running it continuously since before XP, on XP since '02, and with a router w. firewall for the last 2 years. The only point of running Windows Firewall in conjunction with a hardware firewall is in the situation along the lines of: your router calls it a day so you reconnect your old USB modem. If you've been running with no software firewall for months, or even years, odds are you'll forget to turn it back on, so - if it doesn't interfere with anything - leave it enabled. But neither let you know what's trying to get out. Shane |
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"Corday" wrote in message ... I'm a strong believer in both a router firewall and a good one (not MSs built in) on the computer. Speaking of firewalls, don't listen to the ISP rep who suggests using the same password for the router as the Administrator sign on. Before the jokes about me using two condoms, yes I believe in protect, protect, protect. Do you not provide the best protection yourself, Corday? And I don't mean this to be a smart or funny remark either. H. -- I mastered Wordstar graphics! "Lucas Wader-Magneto" wrote: And FWIW, if you connect up a 3rd party firewall and/or a router, they automatically turn the XP firewall off. Modern ones do. Kerio 2.1.5 doesn't. I don't know about the other old ones, as I don't consider any of them unobtrusive enough or light on resources to run alongside other firewalls and/or solely for monitoring outbound traffic. I've been running it continuously since before XP, on XP since '02, and with a router w. firewall for the last 2 years. The only point of running Windows Firewall in conjunction with a hardware firewall is in the situation along the lines of: your router calls it a day so you reconnect your old USB modem. If you've been running with no software firewall for months, or even years, odds are you'll forget to turn it back on, so - if it doesn't interfere with anything - leave it enabled. But neither let you know what's trying to get out. Shane |
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On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:33:29 +0100, Lucas Wader-Magneto wrote:
And I do not get the widespread recommendation not to run a 3rd party firewall. In XP, Kerio 2.1.5 does not interfere with either the Windows Firewall or routers and why on earth anyone would *not* want something alerting one to malware trying to phone home (or without a 3rd party firewall, *actually* phoning home) I do not understand for one moment. I got tired of those popups, and configured my firewall in such a way that I did not see them; then realized that I was being sufficiently permissive as to not catch malware that way, anyway. So I was negating that very feature you flog as "protective". Just as well to not have that firewall as to ignore those popups. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys. |
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N. Miller wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:33:29 +0100, Lucas Wader-Magneto wrote: And I do not get the widespread recommendation not to run a 3rd party firewall. In XP, Kerio 2.1.5 does not interfere with either the Windows Firewall or routers and why on earth anyone would *not* want something alerting one to malware trying to phone home (or without a 3rd party firewall, *actually* phoning home) I do not understand for one moment. I got tired of those popups, and configured my firewall in such a way that I did not see them; then realized that I was being sufficiently permissive as to not catch malware that way, anyway. So I was negating that very feature you flog as "protective". Just as well to not have that firewall as to ignore those popups. I thought you knew what you were talking about, but apparently... Shane |
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webster72n wrote:
"Corday" wrote in message ... I'm a strong believer in both a router firewall and a good one (not MSs built in) on the computer. Speaking of firewalls, don't listen to the ISP rep who suggests using the same password for the router as the Administrator sign on. Before the jokes about me using two condoms, yes I believe in protect, protect, protect. Do you not provide the best protection yourself, Corday? And I don't mean this to be a smart or funny remark either. H. He *did* say 3 'protects'. Shane |
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"Hamish Architrave" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: "Corday" wrote in message ... I'm a strong believer in both a router firewall and a good one (not MSs built in) on the computer. Speaking of firewalls, don't listen to the ISP rep who suggests using the same password for the router as the Administrator sign on. Before the jokes about me using two condoms, yes I believe in protect, protect, protect. Do you not provide the best protection yourself, Corday? And I don't mean this to be a smart or funny remark either. H. He *did* say 3 'protects'. Right you are, Shane, again g. Shane |
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