no internet connection

hi to all
i have 2 pc's connected to a adsl modem/router. both with win me
the 1 gets though to the internet ok
the other cannot find any web pages, not even the router settings page,
what it will do, is i am able to ping the router ip address, i can ping the
other pc, i can ping other ip's like 216.239.59.14 which is google, but it
will not ping www.google.co.uk

any idias, no firwall or antivirus installed, apart from in the router.

roy

Are you sure your "ADSL Modem" is a router also? What are the actual IP
addresses of both computers?

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"Royc" wrote in message
. uk...
hi to all
i have 2 pc's connected to a adsl modem/router. both with win me
the 1 gets though to the internet ok
the other cannot find any web pages, not even the router settings page,
what it will do, is i am able to ping the router ip address, i can ping
the other pc, i can ping other ip's like 216.239.59.14 which is google,
but it will not ping www.google.co.uk

any idias, no firwall or antivirus installed, apart from in the router.

roy

the modem / router is ok, i have done a 'hard' reset & re set it up.
it has a dns server issuing 192.168.0.2 to 255, the router is 192.168.0.1
internally & whatever is given by isp externally

roy


"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
Are you sure your "ADSL Modem" is a router also? What are the actual IP
addresses of both computers?

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Royc" wrote in message
. uk...
hi to all
i have 2 pc's connected to a adsl modem/router. both with win me
the 1 gets though to the internet ok
the other cannot find any web pages, not even the router settings page,
what it will do, is i am able to ping the router ip address, i can ping
the other pc, i can ping other ip's like 216.239.59.14 which is google,
but it will not ping www.google.co.uk

any idias, no firwall or antivirus installed, apart from in the router.

roy



the modem / router is ok, i have done a 'hard' reset & re set it up.
it has a dns server issuing 192.168.0.2 to 255, the router is 192.168.0.1
internally & whatever is given by isp externally

roy

What IP addresses do the computers show if you check them?

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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"Royc" wrote in message
k...
the modem / router is ok, i have done a 'hard' reset & re set it up.
it has a dns server issuing 192.168.0.2 to 255, the router is 192.168.0.1
internally & whatever is given by isp externally

roy


"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
Are you sure your "ADSL Modem" is a router also? What are the actual IP
addresses of both computers?

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Royc" wrote in message
. uk...
hi to all
i have 2 pc's connected to a adsl modem/router. both with win me
the 1 gets though to the internet ok
the other cannot find any web pages, not even the router settings page,
what it will do, is i am able to ping the router ip address, i can ping
the other pc, i can ping other ip's like 216.239.59.14 which is google,
but it will not ping www.google.co.uk

any idias, no firwall or antivirus installed, apart from in the router.

roy



the modem / router is ok, i have done a 'hard' reset & re set it up.
it has a dns server issuing 192.168.0.2 to 255, the router is 192.168.0.1
internally & whatever is given by isp externally

roy

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:08:22 GMT, Royc wrote:

hi to all
i have 2 pc's connected to a adsl modem/router. both with win me
the 1 gets though to the internet ok
the other cannot find any web pages, not even the router settings page,
what it will do, is i am able to ping the router ip address, i can ping the
other pc, i can ping other ip's like 216.239.59.14 which is google, but it
will not ping www.google.co.uk

any idias, no firwall or antivirus installed, apart from in the router.

Ping IP address: yes.
Ping Fully Qualified Domain Name: no.

Sounds like a DNS issue. Is the computer which can't ping FQDNs pulling DNS
server IP addresses from the router? What does winipcfg look like?
Start|Run; type "winipcfg" into the box. Click the "More Info..." button.
Right click on the title bar and click copy. Paste the result into a reply
to this thread.

Should be something like this:

|
| Windows IP Configuration
|
| Host Name . . . . . . . . . : MEGUMI.aosake.netDEST
| DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
| Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
| NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
| IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
| WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
| NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
|
| Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-10-B5-77-E6-46
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.102.100
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.102.1
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.102.1
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 29 06 07:23:50
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 02 01 06 07:23:50

What you see on the "DNS Servers" line depends upon how the computer is
configured. In my case, the DNS servers are on my DSL modem, and the line
points to the modem. More likely you will see two IP address which are not
in the private IP address range of 192.168.0.0/16.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:08:22 GMT, Royc wrote:

hi to all
i have 2 pc's connected to a adsl modem/router. both with win me
the 1 gets though to the internet ok
the other cannot find any web pages, not even the router settings page,
what it will do, is i am able to ping the router ip address, i can ping
the
other pc, i can ping other ip's like 216.239.59.14 which is google, but
it
will not ping www.google.co.uk

any idias, no firwall or antivirus installed, apart from in the router.

Ping IP address: yes.
Ping Fully Qualified Domain Name: no.

Sounds like a DNS issue. Is the computer which can't ping FQDNs pulling
DNS
server IP addresses from the router? What does winipcfg look like?
Start|Run; type "winipcfg" into the box. Click the "More Info..." button.
Right click on the title bar and click copy. Paste the result into a reply
to this thread.

Should be something like this:

|
| Windows IP Configuration
|
| Host Name . . . . . . . . . : MEGUMI.aosake.netDEST
| DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
| Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
| NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
| IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
| WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
| NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
|
| Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-10-B5-77-E6-46
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.102.100
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.102.1
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.102.1
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 29 06 07:23:50
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 02 01 06 07:23:50

What you see on the "DNS Servers" line depends upon how the computer is
configured. In my case, the DNS servers are on my DSL modem, and the line
points to the modem. More likely you will see two IP address which are not
in the private IP address range of 192.168.0.0/16.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


i was thinking some sort of dns problem, i will check when i get by the pc's
tomorrow

roy

"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
What IP addresses do the computers show if you check them?


the ones alocated by the router
192.168.0.2 & 3

roy



--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Royc" wrote in message
k...
the modem / router is ok, i have done a 'hard' reset & re set it up.
it has a dns server issuing 192.168.0.2 to 255, the router is 192.168.0.1
internally & whatever is given by isp externally

roy


"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...
Are you sure your "ADSL Modem" is a router also? What are the actual IP
addresses of both computers?

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Royc" wrote in message
. uk...
hi to all
i have 2 pc's connected to a adsl modem/router. both with win me
the 1 gets though to the internet ok
the other cannot find any web pages, not even the router settings page,
what it will do, is i am able to ping the router ip address, i can ping
the other pc, i can ping other ip's like 216.239.59.14 which is google,
but it will not ping www.google.co.uk

any idias, no firwall or antivirus installed, apart from in the router.

roy



the modem / router is ok, i have done a 'hard' reset & re set it up.
it has a dns server issuing 192.168.0.2 to 255, the router is 192.168.0.1
internally & whatever is given by isp externally

roy

|
| Windows IP Configuration
|
| Host Name . . . . . . . . . : MEGUMI.aosake.netDEST
| DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
| Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
| NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
| IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
| WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
| NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
|
| Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-10-B5-77-E6-46
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.102.100
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.102.1
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.102.1
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 29 06 07:23:50
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 02 01 06 07:23:50

What you see on the "DNS Servers" line depends upon how the computer is
configured. In my case, the DNS servers are on my DSL modem, and the line
points to the modem. More likely you will see two IP address which are not
in the private IP address range of 192.168.0.0/16.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

if the dns server line is not correct, how do i cange it?

roy

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:11:56 GMT, Royc wrote:

|
| Windows IP Configuration
|
| Host Name . . . . . . . . . : MEGUMI.aosake.netDEST
| DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
| Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
| NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
| IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
| WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
| NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
|
| Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
| Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-10-B5-77-E6-46
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.102.100
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.102.1
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.102.1
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 29 06 07:23:50
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 02 01 06 07:23:50

What you see on the "DNS Servers" line depends upon how the computer is
configured. In my case, the DNS servers are on my DSL modem, and the line
points to the modem. More likely you will see two IP address which are not
in the private IP address range of 192.168.0.0/16.

if the dns server line is not correct, how do i cange it?

Use the Network Properties. Different between Windows ME, which I have, and
Windows XP, which I don't have access to. You can manually specify the
appropriate DNS servers in the connection properties.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

this is what the problem pc is like,
the router is ok at 192.168.0.50

when i put 192.168.0.50 into my browser it says
'internet explorer could not open the search page'

if i type 'http://192.168.0.50' it ignores it.

if i ping 192.168.0.50 at commant propt, it shows good connect figures,

i tried putting on firefox & ie6, its still the same!!

roy


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Graham
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.50
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : NDIS 5.0 driver
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-40-F4-72-09-6D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.0.50
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.50
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 30 06 17:53:40
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 02 02 06 17:53:40