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2GB file size limitation
Hi, as I am sure you guys know, W98 has problems with file sizes over 2GB.
Has there ever been a workaround or other fix? |
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"Smokr" wrote in message ... | Hi, as I am sure you guys know, W98 has problems with file sizes over 2GB. | Has there ever been a workaround or other fix? Archived data from Rick Rogers MS-MVP - Win9x Win9x systems can *theoretically* utilize up to 2GB of physical RAM and 2GB of virtual RAM. There are, however, a few other factors to consider he 1) Most older motherboards can't handle that much 2) other problems can arise when you exceed 512MB and 3) the *practical* limit is more like 1GB. For systems exceeding 512MB, you should add this line to the [vcache] section of system.ini: MaxFileCache=512000 And, actually, that line should represent 70% of the system RAM up to a maximum of 524288. This tweak may also be useful on systems using 128MB or better, but the upper limit is essential on systems exceeding 512MB of RAM It has also been documented by Microsoft that you should not exceed 1.5GB of RAM in many (but not all) systems using Win9x, please see: Computer May Reboot Continuously with More Than 1.5 GB of RAM [Q304943] http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q304943 "Out of Memory" Errors with Large Amounts of RAM Installed [Q253912] http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q253912 But, the question one needs to ask oneself is this: "Can I utilize more RAM?". If you put in more RAM than you can actually use, then for all practical purposes you are wasting money and will see no real increase in performance beyond better caching of recently used programs (good if you restart them a short time later, they will reload faster). To tell if you can actually use more memory, use system monitor to watch the swap file (monitor "swap file in use"). If you are continually actively swapping, then more RAM will be of use to you. If you are not actively swapping, then additional RAM will probably not bring any increases in performance beyond the caching of recently used files. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x Associate Expert - Windows XP Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Please reply only to newsgroup... |
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I don't have a problem with the memory. I fact, I use those and other tweaks
after a reintall or on a new disc install. What I am refering to is the limitation of files size for a particular file. For instance, I found the old black and white move "The Giant Gila Monster" which is open domain and has no copyright owner any more by the way, LOL, on the Internet Archive site. I downloaded it fine, but I can do nothing with it as it is 3.1 GB in size. When I attempt to transfer it over my network at home from the file server to the PC I use video software on, it is not recognized as a valid file "The File Parameters are incorrect" error window comes up. The file size reported is -1142278140 bytes. What I was asking, is if there has been a fix to let Win98 deal with individual files over the 2GB or so size. Archived data from Rick Rogers MS-MVP - Win9x Win9x systems can *theoretically* utilize up to 2GB of physical RAM and 2GB of virtual RAM. There are, however, a few other factors to consider he 1) Most older motherboards can't handle that much 2) other problems can arise when you exceed 512MB and 3) the *practical* limit is more like 1GB. For systems exceeding 512MB, you should add this line to the [vcache] section of system.ini: MaxFileCache=512000 And, actually, that line should represent 70% of the system RAM up to a maximum of 524288. This tweak may also be useful on systems using 128MB or better, but the upper limit is essential on systems exceeding 512MB of RAM It has also been documented by Microsoft that you should not exceed 1.5GB of RAM in many (but not all) systems using Win9x, please see: Computer May Reboot Continuously with More Than 1.5 GB of RAM [Q304943] http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q304943 "Out of Memory" Errors with Large Amounts of RAM Installed [Q253912] http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q253912 But, the question one needs to ask oneself is this: "Can I utilize more RAM?". If you put in more RAM than you can actually use, then for all practical purposes you are wasting money and will see no real increase in performance beyond better caching of recently used programs (good if you restart them a short time later, they will reload faster). To tell if you can actually use more memory, use system monitor to watch the swap file (monitor "swap file in use"). If you are continually actively swapping, then more RAM will be of use to you. If you are not actively swapping, then additional RAM will probably not bring any increases in performance beyond the caching of recently used files. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x Associate Expert - Windows XP Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Please reply only to newsgroup... |
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the 2GB limit is a fat16 limit
fat32 drives should have no problems to 4GB sizes, i have DV files in conversion from camera to dvd, 1-4GB each on fat32 drives and there are no problems. Are your drives fat32, if not why not,, ha ha the conversion utitlity is included in all win98 installs start run fat32win.exe MS official response File System Limitations Table 4.4 describes the size and domain limitations of each file system. http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...iwp_sdox.asp-- - Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de spybot http://security.kolla.de AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com Panda online AntiSpyware Scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/ Catalog of removal tools (1) http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/ Catalog of removal tools (2) http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387 Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/ Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters _ "Smokr" wrote in message ... I don't have a problem with the memory. I fact, I use those and other tweaks after a reintall or on a new disc install. What I am refering to is the limitation of files size for a particular file. For instance, I found the old black and white move "The Giant Gila Monster" which is open domain and has no copyright owner any more by the way, LOL, on the Internet Archive site. I downloaded it fine, but I can do nothing with it as it is 3.1 GB in size. When I attempt to transfer it over my network at home from the file server to the PC I use video software on, it is not recognized as a valid file "The File Parameters are incorrect" error window comes up. The file size reported is -1142278140 bytes. What I was asking, is if there has been a fix to let Win98 deal with individual files over the 2GB or so size. Archived data from Rick Rogers MS-MVP - Win9x Win9x systems can *theoretically* utilize up to 2GB of physical RAM and 2GB of virtual RAM. There are, however, a few other factors to consider he 1) Most older motherboards can't handle that much 2) other problems can arise when you exceed 512MB and 3) the *practical* limit is more like 1GB. For systems exceeding 512MB, you should add this line to the [vcache] section of system.ini: MaxFileCache=512000 And, actually, that line should represent 70% of the system RAM up to a maximum of 524288. This tweak may also be useful on systems using 128MB or better, but the upper limit is essential on systems exceeding 512MB of RAM It has also been documented by Microsoft that you should not exceed 1.5GB of RAM in many (but not all) systems using Win9x, please see: Computer May Reboot Continuously with More Than 1.5 GB of RAM [Q304943] http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q304943 "Out of Memory" Errors with Large Amounts of RAM Installed [Q253912] http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q253912 But, the question one needs to ask oneself is this: "Can I utilize more RAM?". If you put in more RAM than you can actually use, then for all practical purposes you are wasting money and will see no real increase in performance beyond better caching of recently used programs (good if you restart them a short time later, they will reload faster). To tell if you can actually use more memory, use system monitor to watch the swap file (monitor "swap file in use"). If you are continually actively swapping, then more RAM will be of use to you. If you are not actively swapping, then additional RAM will probably not bring any increases in performance beyond the caching of recently used files. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x Associate Expert - Windows XP Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Please reply only to newsgroup... |
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"Smokr" wrote in message ... | Hi, as I am sure you guys know, W98 has problems with file sizes over 2GB. | Has there ever been a workaround or other fix? Sorry I misunderstood your question. |
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For FAT systems there's no way of getting around the 2Gb limitation.
For FAT32 systems your files can be up to 4Gb, but not all applications properly handle files of that size. If you find particular applications having problems with files over 2Gb then look for a newer version, or a different application. I am not aware of a problem transferring large files, but it's possible that there is some component in the network that is misinterpreting the file size information and reporting an invalid negative file size. Try a different copy procedure. Or use a file splitter application to split the file, transfer it and put it back together on the local PC. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "Smokr" wrote in message ... I don't have a problem with the memory. I fact, I use those and other tweaks after a reintall or on a new disc install. What I am refering to is the limitation of files size for a particular file. For instance, I found the old black and white move "The Giant Gila Monster" which is open domain and has no copyright owner any more by the way, LOL, on the Internet Archive site. I downloaded it fine, but I can do nothing with it as it is 3.1 GB in size. When I attempt to transfer it over my network at home from the file server to the PC I use video software on, it is not recognized as a valid file "The File Parameters are incorrect" error window comes up. The file size reported is -1142278140 bytes. What I was asking, is if there has been a fix to let Win98 deal with individual files over the 2GB or so size. |
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Using 98SE in this case. Tried using VisualStudio version 5.0 (old) to
convert raw video to avi. Best it could do was 2GB. Tried in ME, 4GB was possible. Same identical application. Both 98SE (all updates) and ME (no updates) were/are on FAT32 partitions. For this, and a number of other reasons, switched to ME for this specific application and subsequent versions. Funny, though, 98SE could read the larger than 2GB to 4GB files. Just couldn't write them with this application. -- Jonny "Smokr" wrote in message ... Hi, as I am sure you guys know, W98 has problems with file sizes over 2GB. Has there ever been a workaround or other fix? |
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Exactly. But my Win98 says the file size is a negative number. I've not seen
that before. LOL "Jonny" wrote: Using 98SE in this case. Tried using VisualStudio version 5.0 (old) to convert raw video to avi. Best it could do was 2GB. Tried in ME, 4GB was possible. Same identical application. Both 98SE (all updates) and ME (no updates) were/are on FAT32 partitions. For this, and a number of other reasons, switched to ME for this specific application and subsequent versions. Funny, though, 98SE could read the larger than 2GB to 4GB files. Just couldn't write them with this application. -- Jonny "Smokr" wrote in message ... Hi, as I am sure you guys know, W98 has problems with file sizes over 2GB. Has there ever been a workaround or other fix? |
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Unless you stop it by saying no at the window, a Win98SE install will use
FAT32 during the format/install anyway. And of course all my drives are FAT32 "AlmostBob" wrote: the 2GB limit is a fat16 limit fat32 drives should have no problems to 4GB sizes, i have DV files in conversion from camera to dvd, 1-4GB each on fat32 drives and there are no problems. Are your drives fat32, if not why not,, ha ha the conversion utitlity is included in all win98 installs start run fat32win.exe MS official response File System Limitations Table 4.4 describes the size and domain limitations of each file system. http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...iwp_sdox.asp-- - Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de spybot http://security.kolla.de AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com Panda online AntiSpyware Scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/ Catalog of removal tools (1) http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/ Catalog of removal tools (2) http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387 Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/ Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters _ "Smokr" wrote in message ... I don't have a problem with the memory. I fact, I use those and other tweaks after a reintall or on a new disc install. What I am refering to is the limitation of files size for a particular file. For instance, I found the old black and white move "The Giant Gila Monster" which is open domain and has no copyright owner any more by the way, LOL, on the Internet Archive site. I downloaded it fine, but I can do nothing with it as it is 3.1 GB in size. When I attempt to transfer it over my network at home from the file server to the PC I use video software on, it is not recognized as a valid file "The File Parameters are incorrect" error window comes up. The file size reported is -1142278140 bytes. What I was asking, is if there has been a fix to let Win98 deal with individual files over the 2GB or so size. Archived data from Rick Rogers MS-MVP - Win9x Win9x systems can *theoretically* utilize up to 2GB of physical RAM and 2GB of virtual RAM. There are, however, a few other factors to consider he 1) Most older motherboards can't handle that much 2) other problems can arise when you exceed 512MB and 3) the *practical* limit is more like 1GB. For systems exceeding 512MB, you should add this line to the [vcache] section of system.ini: MaxFileCache=512000 And, actually, that line should represent 70% of the system RAM up to a maximum of 524288. This tweak may also be useful on systems using 128MB or better, but the upper limit is essential on systems exceeding 512MB of RAM It has also been documented by Microsoft that you should not exceed 1.5GB of RAM in many (but not all) systems using Win9x, please see: Computer May Reboot Continuously with More Than 1.5 GB of RAM [Q304943] http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q304943 "Out of Memory" Errors with Large Amounts of RAM Installed [Q253912] http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q253912 But, the question one needs to ask oneself is this: "Can I utilize more RAM?". If you put in more RAM than you can actually use, then for all practical purposes you are wasting money and will see no real increase in performance beyond better caching of recently used programs (good if you restart them a short time later, they will reload faster). To tell if you can actually use more memory, use system monitor to watch the swap file (monitor "swap file in use"). If you are continually actively swapping, then more RAM will be of use to you. If you are not actively swapping, then additional RAM will probably not bring any increases in performance beyond the caching of recently used files. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x Associate Expert - Windows XP Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Please reply only to newsgroup... |
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For all practical purposes that's built into the way the drive is organized,
e.g. sectors, clusters, Fat allocation etc. etc. Fat32 does have some limits and it's generally imposed under 9x versions. Note one must say generally because you can read larger files over a network etc. usually with no problem. If I believe some file will exceed this limitation, I first insure the app creating/saving the file doesn't impose it's own "logic" onto the situation, e.g. running under 9x so file can't be 2gb even though it's being saved to a network NTFS drive. I then either run the app under XP & NTFS if that's the problem or save it from the 9x box to an NTFS drive. BTW - wanna see negative numbers, copy a DVD to your hard drive under 9x and see how long it says it'll take . "Smokr" wrote in message ... Hi, as I am sure you guys know, W98 has problems with file sizes over 2GB. Has there ever been a workaround or other fix? |
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