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Old November 23rd 04, 06:09 AM
Bill in Co.
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Default Reinstalling IE (for debugging) - any caveats?

I was wondering if there are any things to be concerned about in doing a
reinstall (for the same version) of just IE? Any caveats?

I know I'd probably have to (or should) reinstall some windows updates
afterwards, but that is part of the reason I wouldn't mind doing this (see
below):

I was thinking of doing this, because a couple of web sites weren't
displaying everything that they were supposed to (like a purchase cart
button at one web site doesn't appear on MY browser, and at another specific
web site, when I click on certain links, nothing ever happens).

I don't believe I have this problem at work (but that is also using a
different version of IE - I'm still using IE 5.5 SP1)

I figure this behavior could possibly be due to some windows updates I had
taken in (which I can't uninstall), but I'm only guessing here. So I
thought a good way to check this, (and possibly resolve it), would be to
reinstall IE (with the same version), and see if that clears it up.

BUT - I don't want to do this if it can be problematic (like reinstalling
Windows as an overinstall - I wouldn't do that!!!!)


  #2  
Old November 23rd 04, 06:50 AM
Bill Watt
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:09:54 -0700, "Bill in Co."
wrote:

I was wondering if there are any things to be concerned about in doing a
reinstall (for the same version) of just IE? Any caveats?

I know I'd probably have to (or should) reinstall some windows updates
afterwards, but that is part of the reason I wouldn't mind doing this (see
below):

I was thinking of doing this, because a couple of web sites weren't
displaying everything that they were supposed to (like a purchase cart
button at one web site doesn't appear on MY browser, and at another specific
web site, when I click on certain links, nothing ever happens).

I don't believe I have this problem at work (but that is also using a
different version of IE - I'm still using IE 5.5 SP1)

I figure this behavior could possibly be due to some windows updates I had
taken in (which I can't uninstall), but I'm only guessing here. So I
thought a good way to check this, (and possibly resolve it), would be to
reinstall IE (with the same version), and see if that clears it up.

BUT - I don't want to do this if it can be problematic (like reinstalling
Windows as an overinstall - I wouldn't do that!!!!)


Bill,

Have you tried repairing IE?

StartRun enter Msinfo32, under the Tools menu.

I recently had a Dos Compatibility problem, nothing helped. I
un-installed IE 5.5 SP2 and it reverted back to previous version, IE
5.0. I then over-installed Win 98 SE then re-installed IE5.5. No
problems and system running fine. You may think about un-installing
IE then re-installing 5.5 instead of just an IE over-install. That
should remove the updates. Your previous version of IE may be
restored so then you have an upgrade. I ran IE 5.0 that it reverted
to for awhile to see how things went before I over-installed Win SE
and no problems.

Wait for other replies.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/

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Old November 23rd 04, 07:07 AM
Bill in Co.
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Bill Watt wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:09:54 -0700, "Bill in Co."
wrote:

I was wondering if there are any things to be concerned about in doing a
reinstall (for the same version) of just IE? Any caveats?

I know I'd probably have to (or should) reinstall some windows updates
afterwards, but that is part of the reason I wouldn't mind doing this

(see
below):

I was thinking of doing this, because a couple of web sites weren't
displaying everything that they were supposed to (like a purchase cart
button at one web site doesn't appear on MY browser, and at another

specific
web site, when I click on certain links, nothing ever happens).

I don't believe I have this problem at work (but that is also using a
different version of IE - I'm still using IE 5.5 SP1)

I figure this behavior could possibly be due to some windows updates I

had
taken in (which I can't uninstall), but I'm only guessing here. So I
thought a good way to check this, (and possibly resolve it), would be to
reinstall IE (with the same version), and see if that clears it up.

BUT - I don't want to do this if it can be problematic (like reinstalling
Windows as an overinstall - I wouldn't do that!!!!)


Bill,

Have you tried repairing IE?


Yup - had no effect.

I also forgot to mention that I tried temporarily disabling stuff like the
pop up killers and virus scanners, to no avail. I mean, this problem only
happens in a VERY few isolated instances. It's almost not worth bothering
with - almost. :-)

I tried researching the MS kb's, but didn't find anything pertinent to my
specific case. It MIGHT be possibly due to using IE 5.5 SP1, and not using
something newer, for all I know. But I didn't see that addressed in the
supposed fixes listed for IE 5.5 SP2

You want to see an example of a web site that gives me the problem? Here is
a link:

http://www.ulead.com/store/dp/runme.htm

On my computer here at home, the actual download link (for the Full English
Version) and purchase cart button are missing on this web page. (They
weren't missing at work)


StartRun enter Msinfo32, under the Tools menu.

I recently had a Dos Compatibility problem, nothing helped. I
un-installed IE 5.5 SP2 and it reverted back to previous version, IE
5.0. I then over-installed Win 98 SE then re-installed IE5.5. No
problems and system running fine. You may think about un-installing
IE then re-installing 5.5 instead of just an IE over-install. That
should remove the updates.


Actually, that sounds a bit riskier (to me) than just an IE overinstall,
since I wouldn't bet my life on how well it will revert back to the earlier
version, including OE. I'd rather not risk THAT!

I think if I just reinstall the same version, at least some of the updates
will be effectively "removed" (if it even allows me to reinstall it).

Your previous version of IE may be
restored so then you have an upgrade. I ran IE 5.0 that it reverted
to for awhile to see how things went before I over-installed Win SE
and no problems.

Wait for other replies.


OK - thanks.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/



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Old November 23rd 04, 08:33 AM
Bill Watt
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 00:07:27 -0700, "Bill in Co."
wrote:

You want to see an example of a web site that gives me the problem? Here is
a link:

http://www.ulead.com/store/dp/runme.htm

On my computer here at home, the actual download link (for the Full English
Version) and purchase cart button are missing on this web page. (They
weren't missing at work)


Bill,

With IE 5.5 SP2 Add to cart is there and also the download link for
English. Netscape 7.01 sees those plus the price of $29.95 that IE
does not see. I don't allow scripts.

Opera also sees all three like Netscape.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/

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Old November 23rd 04, 12:10 PM
glee
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Bill, Why not install IE6?
If you are using IE5.5, you should be using SP2, not SP1.

Have you tried deleting the History folder and TIF from a DOS boot, using the
Deltree command?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Bill Watt wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:09:54 -0700, "Bill in Co."
wrote:

I was wondering if there are any things to be concerned about in doing a
reinstall (for the same version) of just IE? Any caveats?

I know I'd probably have to (or should) reinstall some windows updates
afterwards, but that is part of the reason I wouldn't mind doing this

(see
below):

I was thinking of doing this, because a couple of web sites weren't
displaying everything that they were supposed to (like a purchase cart
button at one web site doesn't appear on MY browser, and at another

specific
web site, when I click on certain links, nothing ever happens).

I don't believe I have this problem at work (but that is also using a
different version of IE - I'm still using IE 5.5 SP1)

I figure this behavior could possibly be due to some windows updates I

had
taken in (which I can't uninstall), but I'm only guessing here. So I
thought a good way to check this, (and possibly resolve it), would be to
reinstall IE (with the same version), and see if that clears it up.

BUT - I don't want to do this if it can be problematic (like reinstalling
Windows as an overinstall - I wouldn't do that!!!!)


Bill,

Have you tried repairing IE?


Yup - had no effect.

I also forgot to mention that I tried temporarily disabling stuff like the
pop up killers and virus scanners, to no avail. I mean, this problem only
happens in a VERY few isolated instances. It's almost not worth bothering
with - almost. :-)

I tried researching the MS kb's, but didn't find anything pertinent to my
specific case. It MIGHT be possibly due to using IE 5.5 SP1, and not using
something newer, for all I know. But I didn't see that addressed in the
supposed fixes listed for IE 5.5 SP2

You want to see an example of a web site that gives me the problem? Here is
a link:

http://www.ulead.com/store/dp/runme.htm

On my computer here at home, the actual download link (for the Full English
Version) and purchase cart button are missing on this web page. (They
weren't missing at work)


StartRun enter Msinfo32, under the Tools menu.

I recently had a Dos Compatibility problem, nothing helped. I
un-installed IE 5.5 SP2 and it reverted back to previous version, IE
5.0. I then over-installed Win 98 SE then re-installed IE5.5. No
problems and system running fine. You may think about un-installing
IE then re-installing 5.5 instead of just an IE over-install. That
should remove the updates.


Actually, that sounds a bit riskier (to me) than just an IE overinstall,
since I wouldn't bet my life on how well it will revert back to the earlier
version, including OE. I'd rather not risk THAT!

I think if I just reinstall the same version, at least some of the updates
will be effectively "removed" (if it even allows me to reinstall it).

Your previous version of IE may be
restored so then you have an upgrade. I ran IE 5.0 that it reverted
to for awhile to see how things went before I over-installed Win SE
and no problems.

Wait for other replies.


OK - thanks.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/




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Old November 23rd 04, 04:52 PM
Bill in Co.
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Bill Watt wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 00:07:27 -0700, "Bill in Co."
wrote:

You want to see an example of a web site that gives me the problem? Here

is
a link:

http://www.ulead.com/store/dp/runme.htm

On my computer here at home, the actual download link (for the Full

English
Version) and purchase cart button are missing on this web page. (They
weren't missing at work)


Bill,

With IE 5.5 SP2 Add to cart is there and also the download link for
English. Netscape 7.01 sees those plus the price of $29.95 that IE
does not see. I don't allow scripts.


That is interesting to hear. Thanks for that update, Bill.

So that *probably* narrows it down to a limitation in IE 5.5 SP1, (and/or a
windows update, except that you have probably taken in those updates too),
so ... most likely it is a deficiency in IE 5.5 SP1. Although I still
find that a bit hard to believe, unless that "Add To Cart" stuff uses some
advanced Javascript, or whatever.

Opera also sees all three like Netscape.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/



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Old November 23rd 04, 04:58 PM
Bill in Co.
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glee wrote:
Bill, Why not install IE6?
If you are using IE5.5, you should be using SP2, not SP1.


I have been holding off this time around (after I did a new Win98SE install
some time ago), because I liked the "more open nature" of IE 5.5 SP1 to
ActiveX controls and Netscape-compatible controls that was blocked in IE 5.5
SP2 (and later versions). But I may decide to bite the bullet, and go to
SP2 anyway, seeing the problem I have here.

Have you tried deleting the History folder and TIF from a DOS boot, using

the
Deltree command?


Yeah, I've done that. Nada. Thanks for the suggestions, Glen.

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Bill Watt wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:09:54 -0700, "Bill in Co."
wrote:

I was wondering if there are any things to be concerned about in doing

a
reinstall (for the same version) of just IE? Any caveats?

I know I'd probably have to (or should) reinstall some windows updates
afterwards, but that is part of the reason I wouldn't mind doing this

(see
below):

I was thinking of doing this, because a couple of web sites weren't
displaying everything that they were supposed to (like a purchase cart
button at one web site doesn't appear on MY browser, and at another
specific web site, when I click on certain links, nothing ever

happens).

I don't believe I have this problem at work (but that is also using a
different version of IE - I'm still using IE 5.5 SP1)

I figure this behavior could possibly be due to some windows updates I

had
taken in (which I can't uninstall), but I'm only guessing here. So I
thought a good way to check this, (and possibly resolve it), would be

to
reinstall IE (with the same version), and see if that clears it up.

BUT - I don't want to do this if it can be problematic (like

reinstalling
Windows as an overinstall - I wouldn't do that!!!!)

Bill,

Have you tried repairing IE?


Yup - had no effect.

I also forgot to mention that I tried temporarily disabling stuff like

the
pop up killers and virus scanners, to no avail. I mean, this problem

only
happens in a VERY few isolated instances. It's almost not worth

bothering
with - almost. :-)

I tried researching the MS kb's, but didn't find anything pertinent to my
specific case. It MIGHT be possibly due to using IE 5.5 SP1, and not

using
something newer, for all I know. But I didn't see that addressed in the
supposed fixes listed for IE 5.5 SP2

You want to see an example of a web site that gives me the problem? Here

is
a link:

http://www.ulead.com/store/dp/runme.htm

On my computer here at home, the actual download link (for the Full

English
Version) and purchase cart button are missing on this web page. (They
weren't missing at work)


StartRun enter Msinfo32, under the Tools menu.

I recently had a Dos Compatibility problem, nothing helped. I
un-installed IE 5.5 SP2 and it reverted back to previous version, IE
5.0. I then over-installed Win 98 SE then re-installed IE5.5. No
problems and system running fine. You may think about un-installing
IE then re-installing 5.5 instead of just an IE over-install. That
should remove the updates.


Actually, that sounds a bit riskier (to me) than just an IE overinstall,
since I wouldn't bet my life on how well it will revert back to the

earlier
version, including OE. I'd rather not risk THAT!

I think if I just reinstall the same version, at least some of the

updates
will be effectively "removed" (if it even allows me to reinstall it).

Your previous version of IE may be
restored so then you have an upgrade. I ran IE 5.0 that it reverted
to for awhile to see how things went before I over-installed Win SE
and no problems.

Wait for other replies.


OK - thanks.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/



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Old November 23rd 04, 05:30 PM
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Bill in Co. wrote:
snip
You want to see an example of a web site that gives me the problem? Here
is
a link:

http://www.ulead.com/store/dp/runme.htm

On my computer here at home, the actual download link (for the Full
English
Version) and purchase cart button are missing on this web page. (They
weren't missing at work)

snip

The missing items are Java-dependent:

paste
.................................................. ........................................./spanbr
!-- #BeginEditable "option" --br
table bordercolor="9C9A9C" cellspacing="0" width="275"
cellpadding="2"
tr
td class="bodytextB" bgcolor="9C9A9C"font
color="#FFFFFF"Full
(English Version) /font/td
/tr
/table
table border="0" cellspacing="1" width="275" cellpadding="2"
tr
td class="bodytext" width="27%" Dspan
class="bodytext"ownload*/span/td
td class="priceB" align="center" width="28%" script
language="javascript"
src="http://dynamic.ulead.com/ulead/element5/qryE5.asp?productid=522149&currencies=USD&javascri pt=1&FS=us&sync=1"/script
/paste

Check your settings for scripting in IE ToolsInternet
OptionsSecurity[zone in which you're accessing the page]Custom...

Do you have DirectX 9.x installed
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/en...ols/dxdiag.asp)
?

Like Glee, I would recommend upgrading to IE6 SP1. It will be a two-step
process at Windows Update: First to download and install IE6 SP1 and then a
second visit to install Critical Updates that are not included in the first
download. Your anti-virus application and all other programs should be
closed before installing.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)

Posting and You
http://www.trials-shack.co.uk/posting.html

  #9  
Old November 23rd 04, 08:00 PM
Bill in Co.
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Unbelieveable!!!! I was getting a bit bored, so I just went ahead and
upgraded to IE 5.5 SP2, and I *still* don't see that stuff on the web
page!!!!

Presumably I have something running here that is blocking it(?) But I
disabled those goodies last time around, even including the HOSTS file.
I'll have to try it again. Really, really bizarre...!

Oh - and Adobe Acrobat and Quicktime still work in the browser (yippie!) w/o
my having to *fix that* (like last time I went thru this IE upgrade), for
some reason. (Last time I went thru this upgrade to IE 5.5 SP2 I had to
go to the Apple site to get some patch for that. Maybe that was after I
took in some of the "windows updates"

My Microsoft Start Menu help troubleshooters still work, but I haven't taken
in all the Windows updates (obviously). And I'm not sure I will, at this
point.


Bill Watt wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 00:07:27 -0700, "Bill in Co."
wrote:

You want to see an example of a web site that gives me the problem? Here

is
a link:

http://www.ulead.com/store/dp/runme.htm

On my computer here at home, the actual download link (for the Full

English
Version) and purchase cart button are missing on this web page. (They
weren't missing at work)


Bill,

With IE 5.5 SP2 Add to cart is there and also the download link for
English. Netscape 7.01 sees those plus the price of $29.95 that IE
does not see. I don't allow scripts.

Opera also sees all three like Netscape.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/



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Old November 23rd 04, 09:33 PM
PCR
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| http://www.ulead.com/store/dp/runme.htm

Here! This is the download link at that page you posted...
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.asp
....which shows up fine in IE6 SP1, fully updated. Also, the "Add to
Cart" button is there.

I see Bear lays the blame on Java (there was a Java critical) & possibly
you are not "Custom" at "Internet Options, Security tab, Internet Zone".
Well, I am "Default" level there.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
| Bill Watt wrote:
| On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:09:54 -0700, "Bill in Co."
| wrote:
|
| I was wondering if there are any things to be concerned about in
doing a
| reinstall (for the same version) of just IE? Any caveats?
|
| I know I'd probably have to (or should) reinstall some windows
updates
| afterwards, but that is part of the reason I wouldn't mind doing
this
| (see
| below):
|
| I was thinking of doing this, because a couple of web sites weren't
| displaying everything that they were supposed to (like a purchase
cart
| button at one web site doesn't appear on MY browser, and at another
| specific
| web site, when I click on certain links, nothing ever happens).
|
| I don't believe I have this problem at work (but that is also using
a
| different version of IE - I'm still using IE 5.5 SP1)
|
| I figure this behavior could possibly be due to some windows
updates I
| had
| taken in (which I can't uninstall), but I'm only guessing here.
So I
| thought a good way to check this, (and possibly resolve it), would
be to
| reinstall IE (with the same version), and see if that clears it up.
|
| BUT - I don't want to do this if it can be problematic (like
reinstalling
| Windows as an overinstall - I wouldn't do that!!!!)
|
| Bill,
|
| Have you tried repairing IE?
|
| Yup - had no effect.
|
| I also forgot to mention that I tried temporarily disabling stuff like
the
| pop up killers and virus scanners, to no avail. I mean, this problem
only
| happens in a VERY few isolated instances. It's almost not worth
bothering
| with - almost. :-)
|
| I tried researching the MS kb's, but didn't find anything pertinent to
my
| specific case. It MIGHT be possibly due to using IE 5.5 SP1, and not
using
| something newer, for all I know. But I didn't see that addressed in
the
| supposed fixes listed for IE 5.5 SP2
|
| You want to see an example of a web site that gives me the problem?
Here is
| a link:
|
|
http://www.ulead.com/store/dp/runme.htm
|
| On my computer here at home, the actual download link (for the Full
English
| Version) and purchase cart button are missing on this web page.
(They
| weren't missing at work)
|
|
| StartRun enter Msinfo32, under the Tools menu.
|
| I recently had a Dos Compatibility problem, nothing helped. I
| un-installed IE 5.5 SP2 and it reverted back to previous version, IE
| 5.0. I then over-installed Win 98 SE then re-installed IE5.5. No
| problems and system running fine. You may think about un-installing
| IE then re-installing 5.5 instead of just an IE over-install. That
| should remove the updates.
|
| Actually, that sounds a bit riskier (to me) than just an IE
overinstall,
| since I wouldn't bet my life on how well it will revert back to the
earlier
| version, including OE. I'd rather not risk THAT!
|
| I think if I just reinstall the same version, at least some of the
updates
| will be effectively "removed" (if it even allows me to reinstall it).
|
| Your previous version of IE may be
| restored so then you have an upgrade. I ran IE 5.0 that it reverted
| to for awhile to see how things went before I over-installed Win SE
| and no problems.
|
| Wait for other replies.
|
| OK - thanks.
|
| Regards,
|
| Bill Watt
| Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/
|
|


 




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