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Another nail in the W98 coffin?
Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as
in MicroSoft. W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there ('Home') from some other site AND if I'm on their site and click on any news story and then go back to the main site page via the 'Home' or 'Back' button I'll get the same message again. This happens quite often but not always. Any and all other visited sites work just fine. Maybe MSNBC made some more "improvements" and cares even less now than before about W98 users. Restored Windows to a registry date prior to start of IE error messages and did the IE repair (reinstall?) from the double click on IE6 in 'add/remove programs' W98, Pent II, IE6, 400 Mhz, 256 ram, small HD for OS and programs, larger HD for files. Just curious at this point. Any other 98 users having similar problem with the MSNBC site? Add me to that short Quantatative list of 98 users. Great post and thread. Haven't finished reading it all yet. |
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Another nail in the W98 coffin?
"keith" wrote:
Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as in MicroSoft. W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that will work with Win98. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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Another nail in the W98 coffin?
I have always had trouble with 98 and IE6 since sooo many web sites went
with all this flash (crap). It seems to me that is the biggest problem IE6 and 98 have. I must echo Tim's question, Have you tried the site with Firefox? Being the type of person which really dislikes much change we see, I was slow to try Firefox but now having tried it, having had time for the learning curve, really like it! Although painfully slow to load, once it's loaded what a great browser, highly customizable with plugins, and there are loads of GREAT plugins. To summarize, if FF loaded as fast as IE, I'd use FF all the time and never look back! IE not working properly for you on MSNBC should not be another nail in the coffin, it's not for me; try FF!. ___ "Tim Slattery" wrote in message ... "keith" wrote: Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as in MicroSoft. W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that will work with Win98. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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Another nail in the W98 coffin?
"someone watching" wrote in message
... To summarize, if FF loaded as fast as IE, I'd use FF all the time . . . Under Win98SE (reinstalled in January) IE (v.6) loads in 3 seconds, Firefox (v.2) in 4 seconds -- amply fast enough to prefer all the time. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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wrote in message
... Under Win98SE (reinstalled in January) IE (v.6) loads in 3 seconds, Firefox (v.2) in 4 seconds -- amply fast enough to prefer all the time. My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow. Probably a half minute or more. Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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Another nail in the W98 coffin?
My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow.
Probably a half minute or more. Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured? Don, it MAY suggest that but my setup (O-L-D AMD 550MHz, 384MB ram) loads slowly too, better than 30sec., but it is because of the plugins. If FF is booted in safe mode (firefox -s -m, I think) it boots quickly. The other fellow may have loads of plugins accessing the internet aquiring information too, thus slowing boot time. Once it's up and running though, it's great! |
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Another nail in the W98 coffin?
Thanks, Tim.
Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but never really investigated. DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is having problems with. Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international reply bounces back) "Tim Slattery" wrote in message ... "keith" wrote: Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as in MicroSoft. W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that will work with Win98. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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Another nail in the W98 coffin?
letterman, how come you are not using Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is
currently the latest version for Windows 98 Second Edition and XP if like me you are currently refusing to move up to version 3 in hopes that version 2 will be supported beyond the end of the 2008 year by Mozilla thus continuing to have support for Windows 98. The puzzling thing to me is how users keep saying Opera is so great but I have noticied Opera does not appear to support 256 bit AES encryption and so like Apple's Safari which also only uses a maximum of 128 bit cipher strength I must ask what makes it so great other than the fact that Opera is willing to support older outdated operating systems? http://secunia.com/product/393/ (Windows 95 moderately critical and less bugs) http://secunia.com/product/13/ (Windows 98 SE less critical bugs) http://secunia.com/advisories/31549/ (highly critical bugs for Opera users and run to get your patch) In short, users can minimize their risks when using Windows 98 Second Edition on the 'Net by mainly using an alternative browser like Mozilla Firefox that is still supported for 98 Second Edition. In addition, tools such as SpywareBlaster will keep you safe as well. I am amused because sometimes I try and lure people to hack my PC just for fun now since I have read up on Steve Riley's research and honey pots and it is just like a long and amusing game. Sadly, I have only lured script kiddies and no one who knew really what they were doing but I am on the look out for the big bad guys like government operatives from China, Russia, even within the U.S.A. that try to hack computers and steal information but these guys (meaning guys and girls of course) seem to be wise to me now and seem to just be leaving my PC alone. Oh Well, there are always others involved in my line of volunteer work as well. smile " wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:45:19 -0500, "someone watching" wrote: My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow. Probably a half minute or more. Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured? Don, it MAY suggest that but my setup (O-L-D AMD 550MHz, 384MB ram) loads slowly too, better than 30sec., but it is because of the plugins. If FF is booted in safe mode (firefox -s -m, I think) it boots quickly. The other fellow may have loads of plugins accessing the internet aquiring information too, thus slowing boot time. Once it's up and running though, it's great! I'm running this on a Pentium III 1ghz with 512megs Ram. Not the slowest, but not fast either. I have about 12 plugins in FF. Of course IE does load faster because part of it is already running in Windows. FF is installed properly. I have the 2.0.0.14 version. It DOES work great once it runs, but its still terribly slow to load. I just keep it loaded once I get it open. If I'm not using it, I just keep it on my homepage, which is a html file of links on my own harddrive. |
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