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  #1  
Old June 5th 04, 03:56 AM
LuckyStrike
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Default C Windows profiles user application data

I can see maybe removing some elements in small degrees...those which seems
"harmless"; but to delete the entire lot of contents within the user folder
of C:\Windows\Profiles seems ....um...risky to me with my limited knowledge.

On one occasion I booted up as per usual, and then was asked for a password
which ordinarily wasn't necessary. so I did the first step of that MSKB
article to restore the PC to the usual Windows Log-on process, by disabling
the User Profiles. Then It was fine, and I left it at that. I'll let things
sit for a few days and see what builds up in the S-SD folder.

As per usual, thanks PCR. And another thing: you don't "go out" often
enough to need Spybot. Just sit back and enjoy your rocking chair and a cool
glass of lemonade. =-D

LS
--------------------------
"PCR" wrote in message
...
Well, there is article on how to remove the Profile. I've never done it
that way. The warning is... You will LOSE ALL files & settings that
attach to the Profile, when it is removed...

http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp
How to Disable and Delete User Profiles

...So, you must copy/move them to safety first. I know little/nothing
more, except the stuff is probably all in that "C:\Windows\Profiles"
folder.

As far as SpyBot, I'm just not sure I want it back.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR






  #2  
Old June 5th 04, 07:38 PM
PCR
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Default C Windows profiles user application data

I see. You did the "disable" but not the "remove". So, you clicked, "All
users of this PC use the same preferences and desktop.", but you did not
delete that Registry key or the Profiles\ folder. Could be-- EVERYTHING
that applies to Profiles will happen TWICE now, once inside & once
outside that folder. But I really don't know. Do a run of SpyBot, &
check the dates of it's two sets of files. It probably isn't SpyBot's
fault, though, if indeed you get two, but just the way Windows works. If
you get only one, I guess it's going to the Default Profile and not to
Profiles\.

I wonder what is in that folder...

1. "START, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
2. DIR /s /a /on C:\Windows\Profiles
3. Use the "MARK", outline with mouse, "COPY" button to post it.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" om
wrote in message ...
| I can see maybe removing some elements in small degrees...those which
seems
| "harmless"; but to delete the entire lot of contents within the user
folder
| of C:\Windows\Profiles seems ....um...risky to me with my limited
knowledge.
|
| On one occasion I booted up as per usual, and then was asked for a
password
| which ordinarily wasn't necessary. so I did the first step of that
MSKB
| article to restore the PC to the usual Windows Log-on process, by
disabling
| the User Profiles. Then It was fine, and I left it at that. I'll let
things
| sit for a few days and see what builds up in the S-SD folder.
|
| As per usual, thanks PCR. And another thing: you don't "go out" often
| enough to need Spybot. Just sit back and enjoy your rocking chair and
a cool
| glass of lemonade. =-D
|
| LS
| --------------------------
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| Well, there is article on how to remove the Profile. I've never done
it
| that way. The warning is... You will LOSE ALL files & settings that
| attach to the Profile, when it is removed...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp
| How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
|
| ...So, you must copy/move them to safety first. I know
little/nothing
| more, except the stuff is probably all in that "C:\Windows\Profiles"
| folder.
|
| As far as SpyBot, I'm just not sure I want it back.
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
|
|
|
|
|


  #3  
Old June 6th 04, 01:57 AM
LuckyStrike
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Default C Windows profiles user application data

That's right...All users use same preferences and desktop; and I didn't
"Remove" anything, anywhere.

How much of that do you want to see? I had to do a DIR /s /a /on
C:\Windows\Profiles | more
because there were so many DOS "pages".

LS
--------------
"PCR" wrote in message
...
I see. You did the "disable" but not the "remove". So, you clicked, "All
users of this PC use the same preferences and desktop.", but you did not
delete that Registry key or the Profiles\ folder. Could be-- EVERYTHING
that applies to Profiles will happen TWICE now, once inside & once
outside that folder. But I really don't know. Do a run of SpyBot, &
check the dates of it's two sets of files. It probably isn't SpyBot's
fault, though, if indeed you get two, but just the way Windows works. If
you get only one, I guess it's going to the Default Profile and not to
Profiles\.

I wonder what is in that folder...

1. "START, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
2. DIR /s /a /on C:\Windows\Profiles
3. Use the "MARK", outline with mouse, "COPY" button to post it.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" wrote in message

...
| snip On one occasion I booted up as per usual, and then was asked for

a
password
| which ordinarily wasn't necessary. so I did the first step of that
MSKB
| article to restore the PC to the usual Windows Log-on process, by
disabling
| the User Profiles. Then It was fine, and I left it at that. I'll let
things
| sit for a few days and see what builds up in the S-SD folder.
|snip
| LS
| --------------------------
| "PCR" wrote:
| Well, there is article on how to remove the Profile. I've never done
it
| that way. The warning is... You will LOSE ALL files & settings that
| attach to the Profile, when it is removed...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp
| How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
|
| ...So, you must copy/move them to safety first. I know
little/nothing
| more, except the stuff is probably all in that "C:\Windows\Profiles"
| folder.
|
| As far as SpyBot, I'm just not sure I want it back.
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
|



  #4  
Old June 6th 04, 07:01 PM
PCR
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Default C Windows profiles user application data

I didn't think it would be that much. How about just...?...
DIR /s /ad /on C:\Windows\Profiles

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" om
wrote in message ...
| That's right...All users use same preferences and desktop; and I
didn't
| "Remove" anything, anywhere.
|
| How much of that do you want to see? I had to do a DIR /s /a /on
| C:\Windows\Profiles | more
| because there were so many DOS "pages".
|
| LS
| --------------
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| I see. You did the "disable" but not the "remove". So, you clicked,
"All
| users of this PC use the same preferences and desktop.", but you did
not
| delete that Registry key or the Profiles\ folder. Could be--
EVERYTHING
| that applies to Profiles will happen TWICE now, once inside & once
| outside that folder. But I really don't know. Do a run of SpyBot, &
| check the dates of it's two sets of files. It probably isn't
SpyBot's
| fault, though, if indeed you get two, but just the way Windows
works. If
| you get only one, I guess it's going to the Default Profile and not
to
| Profiles\.
|
| I wonder what is in that folder...
|
| 1. "START, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
| 2. DIR /s /a /on C:\Windows\Profiles
| 3. Use the "MARK", outline with mouse, "COPY" button to post it.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "LuckyStrike" wrote in message
| ...
| | snip On one occasion I booted up as per usual, and then was
asked for
| a
| password
| | which ordinarily wasn't necessary. so I did the first step of that
| MSKB
| | article to restore the PC to the usual Windows Log-on process, by
| disabling
| | the User Profiles. Then It was fine, and I left it at that. I'll
let
| things
| | sit for a few days and see what builds up in the S-SD folder.
| |snip
| | LS
| | --------------------------
| | "PCR" wrote:
| | Well, there is article on how to remove the Profile. I've never
done
| it
| | that way. The warning is... You will LOSE ALL files & settings
that
| | attach to the Profile, when it is removed...
| |
| |
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp
| | How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
| |
| | ...So, you must copy/move them to safety first. I know
| little/nothing
| | more, except the stuff is probably all in that
"C:\Windows\Profiles"
| | folder.
| |
| | As far as SpyBot, I'm just not sure I want it back.
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |
| |
|
|


  #5  
Old June 6th 04, 08:51 PM
LuckyStrike
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Default C Windows profiles user application data

Uh -uh...94 clicks of " | more". :-(

Meanwhile, I removed everything log related (checks, fixes, logs) except for
the Logs folder in C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data\Spybot - Search
& Destroy\Logs. Then I did a search for update and a full Spybot scan....
Nothing new was created in that folder.

LS
---------------
"PCR" wrote:
I didn't think it would be that much. How about just...?...
DIR /s /ad /on C:\Windows\Profiles

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" wrote:
| That's right...All users use same preferences and desktop; and I
didn't
| "Remove" anything, anywhere.
|
| How much of that do you want to see? I had to do a DIR /s /a /on
| C:\Windows\Profiles | more
| because there were so many DOS "pages".
|
| LS
| --------------
| "PCR" wrote:
| I see. You did the "disable" but not the "remove". So, you clicked,
"All
| users of this PC use the same preferences and desktop.", but you did
not
| delete that Registry key or the Profiles\ folder. Could be--
EVERYTHING
| that applies to Profiles will happen TWICE now, once inside & once
| outside that folder. But I really don't know. Do a run of SpyBot, &
| check the dates of it's two sets of files. It probably isn't
SpyBot's
| fault, though, if indeed you get two, but just the way Windows
works. If
| you get only one, I guess it's going to the Default Profile and not
to
| Profiles\.
|
| I wonder what is in that folder...
|
| 1. "START, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
| 2. DIR /s /a /on C:\Windows\Profiles
| 3. Use the "MARK", outline with mouse, "COPY" button to post it.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|



  #6  
Old June 7th 04, 06:30 AM
PCR
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Default C Windows profiles user application data

94 clicks JUST for directories! My God!! What on earth could be in
there!?! (Well, I'm sure I wouldn't know what to do with them, anyhow--
not THAT many!)

That's interesting SpyBot didn't put new .logs in there, but what
version did you run? I guess it's the new one, because v1.2 wasn't
updating any more. Did it put a new log into the other (Default) folder,
uh, "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data"? What are your settings for the .logs?

Could be nothing new will go to the Profiles folder, then, because you
disabled it. (But I don't know how that works.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" om
wrote in message ...
| Uh -uh...94 clicks of " | more". :-(
|
| Meanwhile, I removed everything log related (checks, fixes, logs)
except for
| the Logs folder in C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data\Spybot -
Search
| & Destroy\Logs. Then I did a search for update and a full Spybot
scan....
| Nothing new was created in that folder.
|
| LS
| ---------------
| "PCR" wrote:
| I didn't think it would be that much. How about just...?...
| DIR /s /ad /on C:\Windows\Profiles
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "LuckyStrike" wrote:
| | That's right...All users use same preferences and desktop; and I
| didn't
| | "Remove" anything, anywhere.
| |
| | How much of that do you want to see? I had to do a DIR /s /a
/on
| | C:\Windows\Profiles | more
| | because there were so many DOS "pages".
| |
| | LS
| | --------------
| | "PCR" wrote:
| | I see. You did the "disable" but not the "remove". So, you
clicked,
| "All
| | users of this PC use the same preferences and desktop.", but you
did
| not
| | delete that Registry key or the Profiles\ folder. Could be--
| EVERYTHING
| | that applies to Profiles will happen TWICE now, once inside &
once
| | outside that folder. But I really don't know. Do a run of
SpyBot, &
| | check the dates of it's two sets of files. It probably isn't
| SpyBot's
| | fault, though, if indeed you get two, but just the way Windows
| works. If
| | you get only one, I guess it's going to the Default Profile and
not
| to
| | Profiles\.
| |
| | I wonder what is in that folder...
| |
| | 1. "START, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
| | 2. DIR /s /a /on C:\Windows\Profiles
| | 3. Use the "MARK", outline with mouse, "COPY" button to post it.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |

|
|


  #7  
Old June 8th 04, 09:47 PM
LuckyStrike
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Default C Windows profiles user application data

Yeah, I'm still in there "chopping and cutting". So, when I have it to a
manageable size I'll let you know. It'll still be large. Basically they have
the following:
C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data (207 folders - 1,004 files - 231
MB) has 13 folders and some 8 sundry files.
Folders include:
ACD Systems (6 folders -64 files -23.1 MB),
Adobe (11 folders -11 files - 3.13 MB)
AdobeUM (empty)
CoreCodec (1 folder -19 files. Thought I had gotten rid of that.. Well, I
did now) ;-))
Google (1 folder -empty)
Identities (24 folders - 145 files - 191 MB)
InterTrust (1 folder -empty)
Macromedia (8 folders -4 files - 636 bytes)
Microsoft (116 folders -568 files - 11.9 MB)
PestPatrol (empty)
Roxio (1 folder -4 files - 414 KB)
Spybot (5 folders -61 files - 764 KB) (Logs folder is now empty)
Sun (22 folders - 139 files - 372 KB)

The above differs slightly from that of C:\Windows\Application Data (209
Folders -1,213 files - 239 MB) Items listed are where differences are shown:
Adobe (11 folders -11 files - 3.11 MB)
Identities (24 folders - 144 files - 191 MB)
Macromedia (9 folders - 5 files - 720 bytes)
Microsoft (116 folders - 620 files - 11.0 MB)
Spybot (6 folders -78 files - 9.91 MB)
Sun (22 folders - 279 files - 797 KB)

Also been chopping some former identities folders that were present from
several, installs un-installs of OE Newsreader when it was messing up last
year. So, after I clean them up and retain my present OE store, I'll let you
know what remains, etc.

Running ver1.3 of Spybot. I never installed that "interim test version";
went directly from V1.2 to V1.3. Setting is to "Overwrite log file if
existent (else append to it)" ---sic

LS
-------------------


"PCR" wrote in message
...
94 clicks JUST for directories! My God!! What on earth could be in
there!?! (Well, I'm sure I wouldn't know what to do with them, anyhow--
not THAT many!)

That's interesting SpyBot didn't put new .logs in there, but what
version did you run? I guess it's the new one, because v1.2 wasn't
updating any more. Did it put a new log into the other (Default) folder,
uh, "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data"? What are your settings for the .logs?

Could be nothing new will go to the Profiles folder, then, because you
disabled it. (But I don't know how that works.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" om
wrote in message ...
| Uh -uh...94 clicks of " | more". :-(
|
| Meanwhile, I removed everything log related (checks, fixes, logs)
except for
| the Logs folder in C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data\Spybot -
Search
| & Destroy\Logs. Then I did a search for update and a full Spybot
scan....
| Nothing new was created in that folder.
|
| LS
| ---------------
| "PCR" wrote:
| I didn't think it would be that much. How about just...?...
| DIR /s /ad /on C:\Windows\Profiles
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|



  #8  
Old June 8th 04, 10:24 PM
LuckyStrike
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Default C Windows profiles user application data

I pulled the entire Application Data folder out of C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\
just to see what would happen. Re-booted, all was OK there. Ran a few
programs that were related to the contents of that folder, and they seemed
to run OK too. I wonder if I can just "get rid of it". i.e. store it
somewhere else for the time being (but geez, its 192 folders with 954 files
and its 217 MB in size.) If I don't need it, I'd just as soon get rid of it
in it's entirety. Don't wanna be overly-hasty though, but.....
--
LuckyStrike
--------------------------------------------------------------------


  #9  
Old June 9th 04, 02:52 AM
PCR
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Default C Windows profiles user application data

EEE-YOW. BUT I really don't know what to make of it. Surely, you didn't
install each one of those apps twice? I'm thinking... (but don't really
know)...

Every time you installed to the Default User, a copy must have gone to
the Profiles\ folder. But not visa versa. Therefore, you never did
install an app while logged onto the Profile\, as I see nothing
exclusively there (unless you left it out).

The differences in file sizes probably occurred when you did log on to
the Profile and use one of the apps. Then, changes did not get into the
Default. I'm thinking...

(a) You are sorely in need of an MVP of User Profiles. Are there any
left that you haven't insulted?

(b) I doubt there is a way to combine/merge the individual
Default/Profile files. It will be one or the other.

(c) Probably, having disabled profiles by that URL,...
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q156/8/26.asp
How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
....you are now using the Default. All changes are going only there.
....you are at liberty to delete files in the Profiles folder with their
Registry entries. If you do it piecemeal, then look for specific
Registry entries for the ones you delete. HOWEVER, you will lose changes
that occurred while logged onto the Profile.

(d) Probably, you can manually replace files in the Default folder with
files from the Profiles folder. Could be tricky... you'd have to go look
to see what may need to be done in the Registry.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" om
wrote in message ...
| Yeah, I'm still in there "chopping and cutting". So, when I have it to
a
| manageable size I'll let you know. It'll still be large. Basically
they have
| the following:
| C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data (207 folders - 1,004 files -
231
| MB) has 13 folders and some 8 sundry files.
| Folders include:
| ACD Systems (6 folders -64 files -23.1 MB),
| Adobe (11 folders -11 files - 3.13 MB)
| AdobeUM (empty)
| CoreCodec (1 folder -19 files. Thought I had gotten rid of that..
Well, I
| did now) ;-))
| Google (1 folder -empty)
| Identities (24 folders - 145 files - 191 MB)
| InterTrust (1 folder -empty)
| Macromedia (8 folders -4 files - 636 bytes)
| Microsoft (116 folders -568 files - 11.9 MB)
| PestPatrol (empty)
| Roxio (1 folder -4 files - 414 KB)
| Spybot (5 folders -61 files - 764 KB) (Logs folder is now empty)
| Sun (22 folders - 139 files - 372 KB)
|
| The above differs slightly from that of C:\Windows\Application Data
(209
| Folders -1,213 files - 239 MB) Items listed are where differences are
shown:
| Adobe (11 folders -11 files - 3.11 MB)
| Identities (24 folders - 144 files - 191 MB)
| Macromedia (9 folders - 5 files - 720 bytes)
| Microsoft (116 folders - 620 files - 11.0 MB)
| Spybot (6 folders -78 files - 9.91 MB)
| Sun (22 folders - 279 files - 797 KB)
|
| Also been chopping some former identities folders that were present
from
| several, installs un-installs of OE Newsreader when it was messing up
last
| year. So, after I clean them up and retain my present OE store, I'll
let you
| know what remains, etc.
|
| Running ver1.3 of Spybot. I never installed that "interim test
version";
| went directly from V1.2 to V1.3. Setting is to "Overwrite log file if
| existent (else append to it)" ---sic
|
| LS
| -------------------
|
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| 94 clicks JUST for directories! My God!! What on earth could be in
| there!?! (Well, I'm sure I wouldn't know what to do with them,
anyhow--
| not THAT many!)
|
| That's interesting SpyBot didn't put new .logs in there, but what
| version did you run? I guess it's the new one, because v1.2 wasn't
| updating any more. Did it put a new log into the other (Default)
folder,
| uh, "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data"? What are your settings for the
..logs?
|
| Could be nothing new will go to the Profiles folder, then, because
you
| disabled it. (But I don't know how that works.)
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "LuckyStrike" om
| wrote in message ...
| | Uh -uh...94 clicks of " | more". :-(
| |
| | Meanwhile, I removed everything log related (checks, fixes, logs)
| except for
| | the Logs folder in C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application
Data\Spybot -
| Search
| | & Destroy\Logs. Then I did a search for update and a full Spybot
| scan....
| | Nothing new was created in that folder.
| |
| | LS
| | ---------------
| | "PCR" wrote:
| | I didn't think it would be that much. How about just...?...
| | DIR /s /ad /on C:\Windows\Profiles
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |

|
|


 




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