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Old October 18th 05, 09:29 PM
charles bridges
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Default How to set boot sequence on IBM 300PL

Can someone tell me how to set the boot sequence on an IBM 300PL running
windows 98SE. It has 2 hard drives and is trying to boot to the one that has
nothing on it. I can unplug it and it will boot up and work on the other
one.


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Old October 18th 05, 10:24 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Default How to set boot sequence on IBM 300PL

You need to check your cabling and jumpers on those drives. The BIOS boot
sequence is probably OK, telling the system to boot to HDD0. Normally, HDD0
is the Master drive on the Primary IDE connector. You apparently have your
empty drive connected as Primary Master, and the drive you want to use
connected as Primary Slave. When you remove the Master, the Slave becomes
HDD0.

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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"charles bridges" wrote in message
news
Can someone tell me how to set the boot sequence on an IBM 300PL running
windows 98SE. It has 2 hard drives and is trying to boot to the one that
has
nothing on it. I can unplug it and it will boot up and work on the other
one.




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Old October 19th 05, 10:10 PM
charles bridges
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Default How to set boot sequence on IBM 300PL


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
You need to check your cabling and jumpers on those drives. The BIOS boot
sequence is probably OK, telling the system to boot to HDD0. Normally,

HDD0
is the Master drive on the Primary IDE connector. You apparently have your
empty drive connected as Primary Master, and the drive you want to use
connected as Primary Slave. When you remove the Master, the Slave becomes
HDD0.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"charles bridges" wrote in message
news
Can someone tell me how to set the boot sequence on an IBM 300PL running
windows 98SE. It has 2 hard drives and is trying to boot to the one that

has
nothing on it. I can unplug it and it will boot up and work on the

other

OK you are right, it is set to boot HDDO master, HDD1 slave. HDDO is the
drive that has windows on it. HDD0 is jumpered for master. HDD1 is ( I
think) jumpered for slave. It is hard to tell by what is marked on this
HDD. HDD0 is very obvious the way it is marked.

Both HDD's are on the same cable. Which one should be on the end of the
cable?

I'm sure these questions are elementary to you guys, but I have just started
to learn a little about computers.

Thanks for all the help.
Charles





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Old October 19th 05, 10:59 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Default How to set boot sequence on IBM 300PL

Cable position only matters if the drives are set to Cable Select (CS) and
the cable is properly wired. Many OEM/Whitebox cables are not up to the
task, and Master/Slave is generally preferred. That said, the Master goes on
the middle connector, the slave at the end.

Check the jumpers again, and if you have a make.model spec for the slave
drive, I can try to locate better info.

Does the master happen to have different settings depending on whether it's
a "Master with no slave present" or "Single", as opposed to "Master with
Slave Present"? Many drives are like that.

Addendum: That is supposed to be HDD{zero}, not HDD{oh}.

Jus to make sure -- when both drives are plugged in it tries to boot to the
Slave drive? If that is truly the case, then all I can think of is jumper
issues, or cable position if using CS.

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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"charles bridges" wrote in message
.. .

OK you are right, it is set to boot HDDO master, HDD1 slave. HDDO is the
drive that has windows on it. HDD0 is jumpered for master. HDD1 is ( I
think) jumpered for slave. It is hard to tell by what is marked on this
HDD. HDD0 is very obvious the way it is marked.

Both HDD's are on the same cable. Which one should be on the end of the
cable?

I'm sure these questions are elementary to you guys, but I have just

started
to learn a little about computers.

Thanks for all the help.
Charles







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Old October 20th 05, 12:52 AM
Ron Badour
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Default How to set boot sequence on IBM 300PL

Cable position only matters if the drives are set to Cable Select (CS) and
the cable is properly wired. Many OEM/Whitebox cables are not up to the
task, and Master/Slave is generally preferred. That said, the Master goes
on
the middle connector, the slave at the end.


Hi Gary,

If you are talking cable select, the master is the end connector and slave
is in the middle.

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Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
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Old October 20th 05, 01:57 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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Default How to set boot sequence on IBM 300PL

You're right. Regular brain-fart, that was. Blame it on learning SBS.

Sorry, Charles! I got it backwards.

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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Cable position only matters if the drives are set to Cable Select (CS)

and
the cable is properly wired. Many OEM/Whitebox cables are not up to the
task, and Master/Slave is generally preferred. That said, the Master

goes
on
the middle connector, the slave at the end.


Hi Gary,

If you are talking cable select, the master is the end connector and slave
is in the middle.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo






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Old October 20th 05, 03:27 AM
charles bridges
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Default How to set boot sequence on IBM 300PL


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
You're right. Regular brain-fart, that was. Blame it on learning SBS.

Sorry, Charles! I got it backwards.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Cable position only matters if the drives are set to Cable Select (CS)

and
the cable is properly wired. Many OEM/Whitebox cables are not up to

the
task, and Master/Slave is generally preferred. That said, the Master

goes
on
the middle connector, the slave at the end.


Hi Gary,

If you are talking cable select, the master is the end connector and

slave
is in the middle.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

Both drives are MAXTOR'S. The master is a 6.4 GB and has an IBM P/N

09n0876 IBM FRU 36L8677.
The jumper diagram is pretty obvious and I think it is set right.

The slave is a 10 GB MAXTOR. Model 91024U3.
The jumper diagram is not as clear on it, but it looks like it should be
jumped J50 to be used as a master. Looks like no jumpers are needed to use
it for a slave or siingle.

I have had them master in the middle, slave on end. Slave in the middle,
master on the end and always get the same results if both are connected.
Disconnect the 10 GB and the 6.4 will work on the end or in the middle.

How would I know if they are set cable select(cs)?
The cables are grey with a red line.

Thanks
Charles






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Old October 20th 05, 04:10 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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Default How to set boot sequence on IBM 300PL


"charles bridges" wrote in message
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Both drives are MAXTOR'S. The master is a 6.4 GB and has an IBM P/N
09n0876 IBM FRU 36L8677.
The jumper diagram is pretty obvious and I think it is set right.

The slave is a 10 GB MAXTOR. Model 91024U3.
The jumper diagram is not as clear on it, but it looks like it should be
jumped J50 to be used as a master. Looks like no jumpers are needed to

use
it for a slave or siingle.

I have had them master in the middle, slave on end. Slave in the middle,
master on the end and always get the same results if both are connected.
Disconnect the 10 GB and the 6.4 will work on the end or in the middle.

How would I know if they are set cable select(cs)?
The cables are grey with a red line.


Well it sure sounds strange. I can only surmise that the 6.4GB drive is for
some reason not up to the task of being a Master. When it is forced to
perform this function, it fails. Or...

Have you tried a different cable?

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MS MVP Shell/User



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Old October 20th 05, 04:54 AM
glee
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Default How to set boot sequence on IBM 300PL

"charles bridges" wrote in message
...

Both drives are MAXTOR'S. The master is a 6.4 GB and has an IBM P/N
09n0876 IBM FRU 36L8677.
The jumper diagram is pretty obvious and I think it is set right.

The slave is a 10 GB MAXTOR. Model 91024U3.
The jumper diagram is not as clear on it, but it looks like it should be
jumped J50 to be used as a master. Looks like no jumpers are needed to use
it for a slave or siingle.

I have had them master in the middle, slave on end. Slave in the middle,
master on the end and always get the same results if both are connected.
Disconnect the 10 GB and the 6.4 will work on the end or in the middle.

How would I know if they are set cable select(cs)?
The cables are grey with a red line.


Yes, that Maxtor uses no jumpers installed for Slave:
http://www.maxtor.com/_files/maxtor/...s/style_a1.htm
The jumper shown in the 'Slave' picture, is hung in what is called the 'storage
position'....using those pins does nothing but store the jumper.

Cable Select is another jumper position, and requires that you use a CS compatible
cable.....don't bother with it on this system.

It appears that you Maxtor does not want to be slaved to the older IBM drive. Try
using a second cable connected between the Secondary Controller on the motherboard
and the Maxtor drive, set as Master. That way both the hard drives are Master, and
not sharing a cable or controller with each other.
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Old October 20th 05, 04:56 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Default How to set boot sequence on IBM 300PL


"glee" wrote in message
...
It appears that you Maxtor does not want to be slaved to the older IBM

drive. Try
using a second cable connected between the Secondary Controller on the

motherboard
and the Maxtor drive, set as Master. That way both the hard drives are

Master, and
not sharing a cable or controller with each other.


Interesting question: Is the IBM drive not up to handling it's duties as a
Master, or is it the Maxtor not wanting to submit to the IBM?

Either way, using the Secondary channel is so obvious that I forgot to
mention it, sg ;)
Thanks!

Only issue is if there's a CD/DVD burner present on the Secondary that
doesn't like being a Slave, either.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User



 




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