MSOE.DLL

webster72n wrote:

Rick:
Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are
they, for example?
Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.

I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
update it.

I doubt you'd have one and not know it.

Rick




Harry.

"Rick T" wrote in message
...

webster72n wrote:


"Rick T" wrote in message
...


heirloom wrote:


Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second

machine


set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that

is


the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not

be


available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I

am


not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read

the


mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,

even


then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I

think


Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on

the


server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the

server.

Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
Heirloom, old and speculating

me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their
server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
much space.

OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).

Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
program functionality.


No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's
help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if

I am

putting this correctly.
When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let

it

'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.

Thank you for your concern, Rick.

Harry.

Well, hope you got it worked out.


Rick

Rick:
Is 'Pegasus' one of them?
I used that program for awhile in the past, but have uninstalled it since.
Otherwise the situation you describe doesn't pertain to me.
Tanks.

Harry.




"Rick T" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:

Rick:
Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What
are
they, for example?
Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.

I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
update it.

I doubt you'd have one and not know it.

Rick




Harry.

"Rick T" wrote in message
...

webster72n wrote:


"Rick T" wrote in message
...


heirloom wrote:


Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second

machine


set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If
that

is


the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would
not

be


available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if
I

am


not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you
read

the


mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,

even


then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I

think


Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on

the


server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the

server.

Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
Heirloom, old and speculating

me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on
their
server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
much space.

OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).

Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
program functionality.


No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with
everyone's
help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if

I am

putting this correctly.
When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let

it

'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.

Thank you for your concern, Rick.

Harry.

Well, hope you got it worked out.


Rick

One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
I can't click on them in order to make them default.
Why is that?

Harry.




"Rick T" wrote in message
...
webster72n wrote:

Rick:
Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What
are
they, for example?
Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.

I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
update it.

I doubt you'd have one and not know it.

Rick




Harry.

"Rick T" wrote in message
...

webster72n wrote:


"Rick T" wrote in message
...


heirloom wrote:


Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second

machine


set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If
that

is


the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would
not

be


available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if
I

am


not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you
read

the


mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,

even


then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I

think


Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on

the


server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the

server.

Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
Heirloom, old and speculating

me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on
their
server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
much space.

OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).

Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
program functionality.


No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with
everyone's
help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if

I am

putting this correctly.
When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let

it

'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.

Thank you for your concern, Rick.

Harry.

Well, hope you got it worked out.


Rick

Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on
the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs
make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't.

Rick


webster72n wrote:
One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
I can't click on them in order to make them default.
Why is that?

Harry.




"Rick T" wrote in message
...

webster72n wrote:


Rick:
Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What

are

they, for example?
Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.

I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
update it.

I doubt you'd have one and not know it.

Rick




Harry.

"Rick T" wrote in message
...


webster72n wrote:



"Rick T" wrote in message
. ..



heirloom wrote:



Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second

machine



set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If

that

is



the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would

not

be



available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if

I

am



not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you

read

the



mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,

even



then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I

think



Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on

the



server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the

server.


Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
Heirloom, old and speculating

me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on

their

server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
much space.

OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).

Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
program functionality.


No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with

everyone's

help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if

I am


putting this correctly.
When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let

it


'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.

Thank you for your concern, Rick.

Harry.

Well, hope you got it worked out.


Rick

Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided.
But what about the 'mailhandler' issue?
Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled?
And, if so, why are they there?

Harry.


"Rick T" wrote in message
...
Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on
the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs
make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't.

Rick


webster72n wrote:
One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
I can't click on them in order to make them default.
Why is that?

Harry.




"Rick T" wrote in message
...

webster72n wrote:


Rick:
Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What

are

they, for example?
Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.

I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
update it.

I doubt you'd have one and not know it.

Rick




Harry.

"Rick T" wrote in message
...


webster72n wrote:



"Rick T" wrote in message
. ..



heirloom wrote:



Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second

machine



set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If

that

is



the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would

not

be



available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail,
if

I

am



not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you

read

the



mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it
and,

even



then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I

think



Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail
on

the



server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the

server.


Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
Heirloom, old and speculating

me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on

their

server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I
have
are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets
flushed).
That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
much space.

OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).

Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
program functionality.


No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with

everyone's

help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration,
if

I am


putting this correctly.
When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained,
let

it


'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.

Thank you for your concern, Rick.

Harry.

Well, hope you got it worked out.


Rick

Please refer to the first line of my previous post.

Possibly a reference to MSN messenger? or maybe a stub for one of the
webmail-handling proggies (msn & hotmail?). I'm mostly guessing (I dont
have OE installed)




webster72n wrote:
Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided.
But what about the 'mailhandler' issue?
Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled?
And, if so, why are they there?

Harry.


"Rick T" wrote in message
...

Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on
the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs
make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't.

Rick


webster72n wrote:

One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
I can't click on them in order to make them default.
Why is that?

Harry.




"Rick T" wrote in message
...


webster72n wrote:



Rick:
Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What

are


they, for example?
Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.

I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
update it.

I doubt you'd have one and not know it.

Rick





Harry.

"Rick T" wrote in message
. ..



webster72n wrote:




"Rick T" wrote in message
. ..




heirloom wrote:




Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second

machine




set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If

that


is




the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would

not


be




available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail,

if

I


am




not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you

read


the




mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it

and,

even




then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I

think




Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail

on

the




server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the

server.



Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
Heirloom, old and speculating

me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on

their


server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I

have

are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets

flushed).

That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
much space.

OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).

Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
program functionality.


No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with

everyone's


help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration,

if

I am



putting this correctly.
When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained,

let

it



'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.

Thank you for your concern, Rick.

Harry.

Well, hope you got it worked out.


Rick

What does that tell you about my reading the entire post?
By looking for specific details in an answer I must be overlooking the
important ones. My apologies, Rick.
You probably are right and, henceforth, it most likely
doesn't matter much, or at all.
Let' consider this the conclusion of the subject.

Thank you for hanging in there with me.

Harry.



"Rick T" wrote in message
...
Please refer to the first line of my previous post.

Possibly a reference to MSN messenger? or maybe a stub for one of the
webmail-handling proggies (msn & hotmail?). I'm mostly guessing (I dont
have OE installed)




webster72n wrote:
Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided.
But what about the 'mailhandler' issue?
Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled?
And, if so, why are they there?

Harry.


"Rick T" wrote in message
...

Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on
the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs
make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't.

Rick


webster72n wrote:

One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
I can't click on them in order to make them default.
Why is that?

Harry.




"Rick T" wrote in message
...


webster72n wrote:



Rick:
Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What

are


they, for example?
Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.

I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into
Outlook
Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo
(IIRC),
for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
update it.

I doubt you'd have one and not know it.

Rick





Harry.

"Rick T" wrote in message
. ..



webster72n wrote:




"Rick T" wrote in message
. ..




heirloom wrote:




Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the
second

machine




set to automatically check for email and download it if there.
If

that


is




the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it
would

not


be




available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail,

if

I


am




not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you

read


the




mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it

and,

even




then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out.
I

think




Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the
mail

on

the




server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the

server.



Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
Heirloom, old and speculating

me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on

their


server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I

have

are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets

flushed).

That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up
too
much space.

OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff
on
their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).

Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
program functionality.


No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with

everyone's


help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of
configuration,

if

I am



putting this correctly.
When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained,

let

it



'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.

Thank you for your concern, Rick.

Harry.

Well, hope you got it worked out.


Rick

webster72n wrote:

What does that tell you about my reading the entire post?
By looking for specific details in an answer I must be overlooking the
important ones. My apologies, Rick.
You probably are right and, henceforth, it most likely
doesn't matter much, or at all.
Let' consider this the conclusion of the subject.

Thank you for hanging in there with me.

Harry.

Now that you mention it I vaguely recall something about built-ins for
OE for MSN & maybe Hotmail, but my brain is just a lump of vanilla
pudding between my ears today, so no help there.

Rick






"Rick T" wrote in message
...

Please refer to the first line of my previous post.

Possibly a reference to MSN messenger? or maybe a stub for one of the
webmail-handling proggies (msn & hotmail?). I'm mostly guessing (I dont
have OE installed)




webster72n wrote:

Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided.
But what about the 'mailhandler' issue?
Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled?
And, if so, why are they there?

Harry.


"Rick T" wrote in message
...


Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on
the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs
make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't.

Rick


webster72n wrote:


One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
I can't click on them in order to make them default.
Why is that?

Harry.




"Rick T" wrote in message
.. .



webster72n wrote:




Rick:
Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What

are



they, for example?
Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.

I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into

Outlook

Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo

(IIRC),

for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
update it.

I doubt you'd have one and not know it.

Rick






Harry.

"Rick T" wrote in message
. ..




webster72n wrote:





"Rick T" wrote in message
l...





heirloom wrote:





Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the

second

machine





set to automatically check for email and download it if there.

If

that



is





the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it

would

not



be





available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail,

if


I



am





not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you

read



the





mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it

and,


even





then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out.

I

think





Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the

mail

on


the





server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the

server.




Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
Heirloom, old and speculating

me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on

their



server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I

have


are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets

flushed).


That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up

too

much space.

OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff

on

their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).

Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
program functionality.


No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with

everyone's



help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of

configuration,

if


I am




putting this correctly.
When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained,

let


it




'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.

Thank you for your concern, Rick.

Harry.

Well, hope you got it worked out.


Rick