Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service Pack

Hi Coen, well at least you appear to have made some progress.

From this distance, I'd be inclined to continue with the options offered on
the WU site and go for IE6 SP1 from the site (rather than disk) and (all)
other updates available - one at a time if necessary, doing (or confirming)
an SR point before each one. Step SR back if an issue arises

Easy to say from here, but you're sat at the wheel.

Good luck.

Mart


"Coen" wrote in message
...
Hello guys, Mart and others,

Thank you for all the information. After doubting some time whether or not
take any further risks (?), I decided to follow the directions of Noel
Paton.
I did as follows:
- install and run latest versions of Lavasoft and SpyBot
- delete c:\windows\system\wmploc.dll
- run ie6remov.bat and ie6ermov.bat and ie6remov.reg
- run scanreg /backup, but I'm not sure it worked well
- start from WinME-diskette in minimal mode
- run c:\os\win9x\startup.exe
- three times automatic restart during setup
- first normal start gave an error on HP directcd
- system stopped responding
- manual restart in safe mode, with automatic scandisk
- restart again in normal mode; everything looks working normal (including
HP directcd)
- run ie6setup from disk; after some while it stopped, saying is has not
installed:
* Internet Explorer 6 webbrowser
* package for off-line surfing
* browser changes
- automatic reboot
- ie6setup automatic asking to continue; I gave it a chance; it stopped
with
the same messages
- automatic reboot again
- I cancelled ie6setup

So far no problems any more. I'm running IE5.50.4134.0100 now.
In a previous attempt I got IE6 installed by first removing the folder
c:\program files\internet explorer\uninstall information, but I don't want
to
do it again by myself.
Outlook Expres 6 shows inetcomm.dll and msoe.dll both 6.00.2800.1478.
WU advises me:
- IE6 SP1
- security updates KB888113 and KB891781 for WinME

I would like to have your advise what to do next, before making soup again
;-).

Kind regards, and thanks for all your help so far.

Coen



"Mart" wrote:

So you did 'over-install' onto your existing WinMe system (probably from
the
windows\install or CABS folder). Thus, you will now have the 'version
soup'
which Joan referred to.

Take a look at Noel Paton's page :-
"Reinstalling ME over itself - without tears"
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk/reinME.htm

However, you *may* find it easier (quicker?) to undertake a fresh 'clean
install' than to try to disentangle the IE6 and Media Player 9 'soup'.

If you do go for the clean install, BACK-UP your data first and be sure
to
look at (and print out) the "cleanhd.txt" file in the win9x folder on
your
WinMe CD (and in the install folder mentioned earlier). You can also view
the "Windows Millennium Edition Cleanhd.txt File Contents" at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;271673
Study it carefully and be sure you have a note of your 'productid' code
(the
25 digit code that is supplied with your CD - or use Belarc Advisor from
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html ) and - if your WinMe CD is an
'upgrade' version (rather than a 'full version') - some proof of a
'previous
version' - e.g. your Win98 CD (N.B not required for OEM)

You might also find the following KB article, "How to Use the Fdisk Tool
and
the Format Tool to Partition or Repartition a Hard Disk" helpful.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;255867

Whatever you decide, good luck

Mart


"Coen" wrote in message
...
I found a map on my system with what looked like installation files, and
run
setup from there.
Regards,
Coen

"Joan Archer" wrote:

How did you reinstall, did you do a clean install or did you install
over
the top because if you did you may have ended up with what they call
version
soup, which is why Robear asked if you had uninstalled IE6 before
hand.
Joan

"Coen" wrote in message
news No, I did not uninstall anything before reinstalling WinME.

I don't see what you mean by hiding KB837009, I don't recognize that
in
my
(Dutch) version of WU.

Do you mean that I don't need to worry about WU offering this update
any
more?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

X-post to WinME General

I reinstalled ME and other (essential) updates...

Did you uninstall IE6 SP1 /prior/ to reinstalling WinME?

My question notwithstanding: Go to Windows Update website | Select
CUSTOM
and scan | Uncheck (deselect) KB837009 and "hide" it.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Coen wrote:
Dear all,

I read and tried all what has been said about this issue, I still
have
essential update kb837009 been offered.
I reinstalled ME and other (essential) updates; kb837009 is
boring
me.
I have run kb837009.exe /n:v in safe mode and in normal mode.
I removed KB837009 and did it again.
MSOE.DDL and INECOMM.DLL are both 6.00.2800.1478.
WU still asks for essential update 837009.
Who can help, what else can I do?
Regards,

Coen



"PA Bear" wrote:

For each reference, all posts in this thread may be accessed via
Google
Groups:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...tollick&rnum=1
(or http://snipurl.com/kkzl).

See Subject of this response: Your 837009 problem may not be
related
to
the
896688/904706 problem, John so I'm splitting my responses into
separate
subthreads.

Try forcing an install of 837009 again, using a fresh download
from
the
link I'm posting in this reply:

1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack 1 (KB837009; all OSS) from the following link, saving it to
your
Desktop:

http://snipurl.com/kiro

2. Rename the downloaded file to "KB837009.EXE" (without the
quotes)
and
copy it to C:\ (the root directory of drive C);

3. Close OE, IE and disable your anti-virus application.

4. Start Run (type of copy/paste in) C:\KB837009.EXE /N:V
(Note
the
space) press ENTER

5. Close the command window.

6. Reboot.

7. Open OE and look in OE Help About Files: Confirm that
MSOE.DLL
and
INETCOMM.DLL are both v6.00.2800.1409.

8. Confirm that Windows Update no longer offers you 837009.
--
~PA Bear

John Tollick wrote:
This is the message WU gives me :-
*******************************
No Updates Were Installed

The following items failed to install. To try installing them
again,
click
Review and install updates, and then click Install Now again.

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack
1
(KB896688) Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack
1 (KB837009) Security Update for DirectX 9 (KB904706)
************************************


"John Tollick" wrote:

yep, WU has been offering me 3 updates for a while now :-
KB904706; KB837009; and KB896688. None of these will install
(see
previous for how WU breaks this news to me each time I try)

"PA Bear" wrote:

On trying to download 823353 as suggested...

The links I'm posting are for downloading 837009 for OE6 SP1,
not
823353 (which is already installed on your machine, from what
you've
posted here).

Just checked my IE it is :-
Version 6.0.2800.1106
Update versions SP1; q313829; q867282; q891781; 890923;
q883939;
q903235; q896727;

Something's fishy: The latest IE Cumulative Update you have
installed
is 806727 (Aug-05). Does Windows Update not offer you 896688
(Nov-05), John?? --
~PA Bear

Hi Mart, it may appear so, I'm not sure about that progress:

- I first selected WinME security updates KB888113 and KB89171 to install
- after reboot both appear in the installed history, but KB888113 also is
offered again to be installed
- I selected IE6SP1 from the windowsupdatesite, but it ends with the same
message as befo "not all components installed, reboot and continue"
- KB88113 as well as IE6SP1 appear in the installation history, AND are
being offered again as essential updates to be installed

What's next?

Thanks,

Coen


"Mart" wrote:

Hi Coen, well at least you appear to have made some progress.

From this distance, I'd be inclined to continue with the options offered on
the WU site and go for IE6 SP1 from the site (rather than disk) and (all)
other updates available - one at a time if necessary, doing (or confirming)
an SR point before each one. Step SR back if an issue arises

Easy to say from here, but you're sat at the wheel.

Good luck.

Mart


"Coen" wrote in message
...
Hello guys, Mart and others,

Thank you for all the information. After doubting some time whether or not
take any further risks (?), I decided to follow the directions of Noel
Paton.
I did as follows:
- install and run latest versions of Lavasoft and SpyBot
- delete c:\windows\system\wmploc.dll
- run ie6remov.bat and ie6ermov.bat and ie6remov.reg
- run scanreg /backup, but I'm not sure it worked well
- start from WinME-diskette in minimal mode
- run c:\os\win9x\startup.exe
- three times automatic restart during setup
- first normal start gave an error on HP directcd
- system stopped responding
- manual restart in safe mode, with automatic scandisk
- restart again in normal mode; everything looks working normal (including
HP directcd)
- run ie6setup from disk; after some while it stopped, saying is has not
installed:
* Internet Explorer 6 webbrowser
* package for off-line surfing
* browser changes
- automatic reboot
- ie6setup automatic asking to continue; I gave it a chance; it stopped
with
the same messages
- automatic reboot again
- I cancelled ie6setup

So far no problems any more. I'm running IE5.50.4134.0100 now.
In a previous attempt I got IE6 installed by first removing the folder
c:\program files\internet explorer\uninstall information, but I don't want
to
do it again by myself.
Outlook Expres 6 shows inetcomm.dll and msoe.dll both 6.00.2800.1478.
WU advises me:
- IE6 SP1
- security updates KB888113 and KB891781 for WinME

I would like to have your advise what to do next, before making soup again
;-).

Kind regards, and thanks for all your help so far.

Coen



"Mart" wrote:

So you did 'over-install' onto your existing WinMe system (probably from
the
windows\install or CABS folder). Thus, you will now have the 'version
soup'
which Joan referred to.

Take a look at Noel Paton's page :-
"Reinstalling ME over itself - without tears"
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk/reinME.htm

However, you *may* find it easier (quicker?) to undertake a fresh 'clean
install' than to try to disentangle the IE6 and Media Player 9 'soup'.

If you do go for the clean install, BACK-UP your data first and be sure
to
look at (and print out) the "cleanhd.txt" file in the win9x folder on
your
WinMe CD (and in the install folder mentioned earlier). You can also view
the "Windows Millennium Edition Cleanhd.txt File Contents" at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;271673
Study it carefully and be sure you have a note of your 'productid' code
(the
25 digit code that is supplied with your CD - or use Belarc Advisor from
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html ) and - if your WinMe CD is an
'upgrade' version (rather than a 'full version') - some proof of a
'previous
version' - e.g. your Win98 CD (N.B not required for OEM)

You might also find the following KB article, "How to Use the Fdisk Tool
and
the Format Tool to Partition or Repartition a Hard Disk" helpful.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;255867

Whatever you decide, good luck

Mart


"Coen" wrote in message
...
I found a map on my system with what looked like installation files, and
run
setup from there.
Regards,
Coen

"Joan Archer" wrote:

How did you reinstall, did you do a clean install or did you install
over
the top because if you did you may have ended up with what they call
version
soup, which is why Robear asked if you had uninstalled IE6 before
hand.
Joan

"Coen" wrote in message
news No, I did not uninstall anything before reinstalling WinME.

I don't see what you mean by hiding KB837009, I don't recognize that
in
my
(Dutch) version of WU.

Do you mean that I don't need to worry about WU offering this update
any
more?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

X-post to WinME General

I reinstalled ME and other (essential) updates...

Did you uninstall IE6 SP1 /prior/ to reinstalling WinME?

My question notwithstanding: Go to Windows Update website | Select
CUSTOM
and scan | Uncheck (deselect) KB837009 and "hide" it.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Coen wrote:
Dear all,

I read and tried all what has been said about this issue, I still
have
essential update kb837009 been offered.
I reinstalled ME and other (essential) updates; kb837009 is
boring
me.
I have run kb837009.exe /n:v in safe mode and in normal mode.
I removed KB837009 and did it again.
MSOE.DDL and INECOMM.DLL are both 6.00.2800.1478.
WU still asks for essential update 837009.
Who can help, what else can I do?
Regards,

Coen



"PA Bear" wrote:

For each reference, all posts in this thread may be accessed via
Google
Groups:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...tollick&rnum=1
(or http://snipurl.com/kkzl).

See Subject of this response: Your 837009 problem may not be
related
to
the
896688/904706 problem, John so I'm splitting my responses into
separate
subthreads.

Try forcing an install of 837009 again, using a fresh download
from
the
link I'm posting in this reply:

1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack 1 (KB837009; all OSS) from the following link, saving it to
your
Desktop:

http://snipurl.com/kiro

2. Rename the downloaded file to "KB837009.EXE" (without the
quotes)
and
copy it to C:\ (the root directory of drive C);

3. Close OE, IE and disable your anti-virus application.

4. Start Run (type of copy/paste in) C:\KB837009.EXE /N:V
(Note
the
space) press ENTER

5. Close the command window.

6. Reboot.

7. Open OE and look in OE Help About Files: Confirm that
MSOE.DLL
and
INETCOMM.DLL are both v6.00.2800.1409.

8. Confirm that Windows Update no longer offers you 837009.
--
~PA Bear

John Tollick wrote:
This is the message WU gives me :-
*******************************
No Updates Were Installed

The following items failed to install. To try installing them
again,
click
Review and install updates, and then click Install Now again.

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack
1
(KB896688) Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack
1 (KB837009) Security Update for DirectX 9 (KB904706)
************************************


"John Tollick" wrote:

yep, WU has been offering me 3 updates for a while now :-
KB904706; KB837009; and KB896688. None of these will install
(see
previous for how WU breaks this news to me each time I try)

"PA Bear" wrote:

On trying to download 823353 as suggested...

The links I'm posting are for downloading 837009 for OE6 SP1,
not
823353 (which is already installed on your machine, from what
you've
posted here).

Just checked my IE it is :-
Version 6.0.2800.1106
Update versions SP1; q313829; q867282; q891781; 890923;
q883939;
q903235; q896727;

Something's fishy: The latest IE Cumulative Update you have
installed
is 806727 (Aug-05). Does Windows Update not offer you 896688
(Nov-05), John?? --
~PA Bear

Not too sure Coen, but I suspect that you may still have some remnants of
the 'soup' on your machine.

I vaguely recall there being issues with at least one (KB89171 rings a bell)
if not both of those updates about 3 or 4 years ago, but can't remember
what. If Mike M is watching, perhaps he can recall? Didn't MS re-issue it?
I seem to remember plenty of chatter about it on the news groups, but as it
didn't affect me, I didn't keep any notes of the issues.

Until or unless some one else chirps in, I can't really help further - other
than a clean install (ouch!) - except to suggest you try MS Knowledge Base
(e.g.
http://support.microsoft.com/search/...mm=1&spid=6519

or try Googling "ie6 sp1 install fails" and/or "KB89171"

Best of luck

Mart



"Coen" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart, it may appear so, I'm not sure about that progress:

- I first selected WinME security updates KB888113 and KB89171 to install
- after reboot both appear in the installed history, but KB888113 also is
offered again to be installed
- I selected IE6SP1 from the windowsupdatesite, but it ends with the same
message as befo "not all components installed, reboot and continue"
- KB88113 as well as IE6SP1 appear in the installation history, AND are
being offered again as essential updates to be installed

What's next?

Thanks,

Coen


"Mart" wrote:

Hi Coen, well at least you appear to have made some progress.

From this distance, I'd be inclined to continue with the options offered
on
the WU site and go for IE6 SP1 from the site (rather than disk) and (all)
other updates available - one at a time if necessary, doing (or
confirming)
an SR point before each one. Step SR back if an issue arises

Easy to say from here, but you're sat at the wheel.

Good luck.

Mart


"Coen" wrote in message
...
Hello guys, Mart and others,

Thank you for all the information. After doubting some time whether or
not
take any further risks (?), I decided to follow the directions of Noel
Paton.
I did as follows:
- install and run latest versions of Lavasoft and SpyBot
- delete c:\windows\system\wmploc.dll
- run ie6remov.bat and ie6ermov.bat and ie6remov.reg
- run scanreg /backup, but I'm not sure it worked well
- start from WinME-diskette in minimal mode
- run c:\os\win9x\startup.exe
- three times automatic restart during setup
- first normal start gave an error on HP directcd
- system stopped responding
- manual restart in safe mode, with automatic scandisk
- restart again in normal mode; everything looks working normal
(including
HP directcd)
- run ie6setup from disk; after some while it stopped, saying is has
not
installed:
* Internet Explorer 6 webbrowser
* package for off-line surfing
* browser changes
- automatic reboot
- ie6setup automatic asking to continue; I gave it a chance; it stopped
with
the same messages
- automatic reboot again
- I cancelled ie6setup

So far no problems any more. I'm running IE5.50.4134.0100 now.
In a previous attempt I got IE6 installed by first removing the folder
c:\program files\internet explorer\uninstall information, but I don't
want
to
do it again by myself.
Outlook Expres 6 shows inetcomm.dll and msoe.dll both 6.00.2800.1478.
WU advises me:
- IE6 SP1
- security updates KB888113 and KB891781 for WinME

I would like to have your advise what to do next, before making soup
again
;-).

Kind regards, and thanks for all your help so far.

Coen



"Mart" wrote:

So you did 'over-install' onto your existing WinMe system (probably
from
the
windows\install or CABS folder). Thus, you will now have the 'version
soup'
which Joan referred to.

Take a look at Noel Paton's page :-
"Reinstalling ME over itself - without tears"
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk/reinME.htm

However, you *may* find it easier (quicker?) to undertake a fresh
'clean
install' than to try to disentangle the IE6 and Media Player 9 'soup'.

If you do go for the clean install, BACK-UP your data first and be
sure
to
look at (and print out) the "cleanhd.txt" file in the win9x folder on
your
WinMe CD (and in the install folder mentioned earlier). You can also
view
the "Windows Millennium Edition Cleanhd.txt File Contents" at:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;271673
Study it carefully and be sure you have a note of your 'productid'
code
(the
25 digit code that is supplied with your CD - or use Belarc Advisor
from
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html ) and - if your WinMe CD is
an
'upgrade' version (rather than a 'full version') - some proof of a
'previous
version' - e.g. your Win98 CD (N.B not required for OEM)

You might also find the following KB article, "How to Use the Fdisk
Tool
and
the Format Tool to Partition or Repartition a Hard Disk" helpful.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;255867

Whatever you decide, good luck

Mart


"Coen" wrote in message
...
I found a map on my system with what looked like installation files,
and
run
setup from there.
Regards,
Coen

"Joan Archer" wrote:

How did you reinstall, did you do a clean install or did you
install
over
the top because if you did you may have ended up with what they
call
version
soup, which is why Robear asked if you had uninstalled IE6 before
hand.
Joan

"Coen" wrote in message
news No, I did not uninstall anything before reinstalling WinME.

I don't see what you mean by hiding KB837009, I don't recognize
that
in
my
(Dutch) version of WU.

Do you mean that I don't need to worry about WU offering this
update
any
more?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

X-post to WinME General

I reinstalled ME and other (essential) updates...

Did you uninstall IE6 SP1 /prior/ to reinstalling WinME?

My question notwithstanding: Go to Windows Update website |
Select
CUSTOM
and scan | Uncheck (deselect) KB837009 and "hide" it.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since
2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Coen wrote:
Dear all,

I read and tried all what has been said about this issue, I
still
have
essential update kb837009 been offered.
I reinstalled ME and other (essential) updates; kb837009 is
boring
me.
I have run kb837009.exe /n:v in safe mode and in normal mode.
I removed KB837009 and did it again.
MSOE.DDL and INECOMM.DLL are both 6.00.2800.1478.
WU still asks for essential update 837009.
Who can help, what else can I do?
Regards,

Coen



"PA Bear" wrote:

For each reference, all posts in this thread may be accessed
via
Google
Groups:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...tollick&rnum=1
(or http://snipurl.com/kkzl).

See Subject of this response: Your 837009 problem may not be
related
to
the
896688/904706 problem, John so I'm splitting my responses
into
separate
subthreads.

Try forcing an install of 837009 again, using a fresh
download
from
the
link I'm posting in this reply:

1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook
Express 6
Service
Pack 1 (KB837009; all OSS) from the following link, saving it
to
your
Desktop:

http://snipurl.com/kiro

2. Rename the downloaded file to "KB837009.EXE" (without the
quotes)
and
copy it to C:\ (the root directory of drive C);

3. Close OE, IE and disable your anti-virus application.

4. Start Run (type of copy/paste in) C:\KB837009.EXE /N:V
(Note
the
space) press ENTER

5. Close the command window.

6. Reboot.

7. Open OE and look in OE Help About Files: Confirm that
MSOE.DLL
and
INETCOMM.DLL are both v6.00.2800.1409.

8. Confirm that Windows Update no longer offers you 837009.
--
~PA Bear

John Tollick wrote:
This is the message WU gives me :-
*******************************
No Updates Were Installed

The following items failed to install. To try installing
them
again,
click
Review and install updates, and then click Install Now
again.

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service
Pack
1
(KB896688) Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6
Service
Pack
1 (KB837009) Security Update for DirectX 9 (KB904706)
************************************


"John Tollick" wrote:

yep, WU has been offering me 3 updates for a while now :-
KB904706; KB837009; and KB896688. None of these will
install
(see
previous for how WU breaks this news to me each time I try)

"PA Bear" wrote:

On trying to download 823353 as suggested...

The links I'm posting are for downloading 837009 for OE6
SP1,
not
823353 (which is already installed on your machine, from
what
you've
posted here).

Just checked my IE it is :-
Version 6.0.2800.1106
Update versions SP1; q313829; q867282; q891781; 890923;
q883939;
q903235; q896727;

Something's fishy: The latest IE Cumulative Update you
have
installed
is 806727 (Aug-05). Does Windows Update not offer you
896688
(Nov-05), John?? --
~PA Bear