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Old January 21st 09, 02:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
mdwiaterski
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what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me. I know
microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program but there has
got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least partialy up to date. I
dont have a lot of money and I am not a computer wiz.
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Old January 21st 09, 03:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Win Me = XP is a valid upgrade path. If you want to run Vista then don't
bother trying to update a system currently running Win Me because a PC
running Win Me is likely to be at least six or more years old and unlikely
to be meet the minimum system requirements for Vista.
--
Mike Maltby



mdwiaterski wrote:

what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me. I
know microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program
but there has got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least
partialy up to date. I dont have a lot of money and I am not a
computer wiz.


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Old January 21st 09, 04:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Arturo[_4_]
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Morning, Mike.

I think I can tentatively blame the W7 beta release fiasco for keeping me up
half the night so that now I'm up half the night, every night! Here I am in
x64, using Windows Mail, which I now know how to re-enable (if not yet
anyway how to set as default), thanks to the forum Joan pointed me to.

Well, it is definately time to hit the sack!

Night, Mike.

Shane

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Win Me = XP is a valid upgrade path. If you want to run Vista then don't
bother trying to update a system currently running Win Me because a PC
running Win Me is likely to be at least six or more years old and unlikely
to be meet the minimum system requirements for Vista.
--
Mike Maltby



mdwiaterski wrote:

what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me. I
know microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program
but there has got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least
partialy up to date. I dont have a lot of money and I am not a
computer wiz.



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Old January 21st 09, 05:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
N. Miller
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:40:00 -0800, mdwiaterski wrote:

what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me. I know
microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program but there has
got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least partialy up to date. I
dont have a lot of money and I am not a computer wiz.


If you don't have at least 512 KB of RAM, forget about upgrading to Windows
XP. MS claims XP will run in a minimum of 128 KB of RAM; but I have seen
that dog, and it won't hunt.

If you can afford to bring the RAM up to at least 512 KB, and can find a
Windows XP Upgrade pack (used to be available for $99, but very scarce now),
you can upgrade Windows Me to Windows XP Home Edition.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.
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Old January 21st 09, 06:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane[_5_]
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N. Miller wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:40:00 -0800, mdwiaterski wrote:

what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me.
I know microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program
but there has got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least
partialy up to date. I dont have a lot of money and I am not a
computer wiz.


If you don't have at least 512 KB of RAM, forget about upgrading to
Windows XP. MS claims XP will run in a minimum of 128 KB of RAM; but
I have seen that dog, and it won't hunt.

If you can afford to bring the RAM up to at least 512 KB, and can
find a Windows XP Upgrade pack (used to be available for $99, but
very scarce now), you can upgrade Windows Me to Windows XP Home
Edition.


Norman, I ran XP on 256 MB RAM for a few years and it wasn't a serious
problem. One'd have to be running the sort of things that one wouldn't have
stuck with Me all these years if one were in the habit of so doing, for it
to become noticeable.

Shane


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Old January 21st 09, 07:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Shane wrote:

Norman, I ran XP on 256 MB RAM for a few years and it wasn't a serious
problem. One'd have to be running the sort of things that one
wouldn't have stuck with Me all these years if one were in the habit
of so doing, for it to become noticeable.


I agree 256MB RAM is quite usable when running XP for most consumer tasks,
browsing, WP, e-mail and the like. I even had a PC running XP Home with
just 128MB RAM soon after XP was launched and whilst that also worked it
tended to crawl when opening apps and at boot time. Perhaps of interest
if not for amusement I note that VPC 2007 allocates as its default 128MB
of RAM when creating a new XP system compared to 512MB for Vista and 64MB
for Win98.
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Old January 23rd 09, 01:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane[_5_]
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Perhaps of interest if not for amusement I note that VPC 2007
allocates as its default 128MB of RAM when creating a new XP system
compared to 512MB for Vista and 64MB for Win98.


I suppose that shouldn't surprise me, as I've thought defaults for earlier
systems were a bit conservative - the 64MB for 98 a case in point. In
keeping with the era I suppose, but I don't see why they don't update it.
Maybe there's no need, and I suppose they're sticking to what was the
officially recommended minimum, but it seems a bit pedantic.

I really must get more RAM. I really must get a new machine, not just with
more RAM - and more slots - but with a multicore processor. Even so, I have
tonight implemented the Start /Low dodge in an attempt to get VPC to run
fast but not completely tie up the CPU, and I was thinking of installing the
XP x64 trial I still have, and which still works - but you can't run 64-bit
systems in VPC, it comes drifting back to me (possibly on a cloud?).

VPC does seem to work okay in W7 - as I expect you know - but for the
display issue I mentioned. Every time you move from the host to the guest -
and click - the display in the VPC window blacks out, momentarily, sometimes
requiring the likes of clicking the guest Start Button or, better, Show
Desktop - to get it to redraw; though at one point - when installing O2K in
either Win 98 or 2000 - the Product Key screen remained behind subsequent
installation screens - so that at various points prior to the next restart
the User Info/Product Key screen would reappear!

I do like Libraries.

Shane


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Old January 23rd 09, 03:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
N. Miller
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:00:40 -0000, Shane wrote:

N. Miller wrote:


On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:40:00 -0800, mdwiaterski wrote:


what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me.
I know microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program
but there has got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least
partialy up to date. I dont have a lot of money and I am not a
computer wiz.


If you don't have at least 512 KB of RAM, forget about upgrading to
Windows XP. MS claims XP will run in a minimum of 128 KB of RAM; but
I have seen that dog, and it won't hunt.

If you can afford to bring the RAM up to at least 512 KB, and can
find a Windows XP Upgrade pack (used to be available for $99, but
very scarce now), you can upgrade Windows Me to Windows XP Home
Edition.


Norman, I ran XP on 256 MB RAM for a few years and it wasn't a serious
problem. One'd have to be running the sort of things that one wouldn't have
stuck with Me all these years if one were in the habit of so doing, for it
to become noticeable.


I have upgraded my HP Pavilion 6475C from Windows Me to Windows XP Home
Edition. I assure you, it would be intolerable, if I were using it for
general purposes. It is only tolerable because I can leave it running 24/7
with Mercury/32, and not have it falling over for lack of system/user/GDI
resources.

If I were going to try using that old iron for web surfing and email, and
nothing else, I would still upgrade the RAM to 512 kBytes. Or roll it back
to Windows Me.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.
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Old January 23rd 09, 08:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane[_5_]
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N. Miller wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:00:40 -0000, Shane wrote:

N. Miller wrote:


On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:40:00 -0800, mdwiaterski wrote:


what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me.
I know microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific
program but there has got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make
it at least partialy up to date. I dont have a lot of money and I
am not a computer wiz.


If you don't have at least 512 KB of RAM, forget about upgrading to
Windows XP. MS claims XP will run in a minimum of 128 KB of RAM; but
I have seen that dog, and it won't hunt.

If you can afford to bring the RAM up to at least 512 KB, and can
find a Windows XP Upgrade pack (used to be available for $99, but
very scarce now), you can upgrade Windows Me to Windows XP Home
Edition.


Norman, I ran XP on 256 MB RAM for a few years and it wasn't a
serious problem. One'd have to be running the sort of things that
one wouldn't have stuck with Me all these years if one were in the
habit of so doing, for it to become noticeable.


I have upgraded my HP Pavilion 6475C from Windows Me to Windows XP
Home Edition. I assure you, it would be intolerable, if I were using
it for general purposes. It is only tolerable because I can leave it
running 24/7 with Mercury/32, and not have it falling over for lack
of system/user/GDI resources.

If I were going to try using that old iron for web surfing and email,
and nothing else, I would still upgrade the RAM to 512 kBytes. Or
roll it back to Windows Me.


Maybe the problem is the doing an upgrade rather than a clean install. There
is a reason it is preferred, and it is directly or indirectly one of
performance.

I'm sure it is not that you really do mean kilobytes. Anyway, yes, I too
would still upgrade the RAM - because I'm used to rather more these days.
I'm also used to broadband - but once upon a time even 56k was a speed
improvement and quite bearable in most circumstances. It is less so today,
of course, because online updating and services are just about universally
adapted for broadband capabilities and sod the unfortunate dial-up user. To
an extent that applies to apps too, increasingly written for machines with
gigabytes of RAM, but it is far less of an inconvenience than using dial-up
in the age of BB. I, for instance, still run Office 2000. You can install a
converter for reading Office 2007 documents and there is no need whatsoever
to move to O2K7. Or if there is, that is likely one of the areas that fall
outside of the remit of getting 'at least partially up-to-date'. Obviously
this whole enterprise is an exercise in compromise - but by and large XP
Home will work rather more impressively than any 9x version, on 256MB RAM.
At least, from a clean install. Doesn't even have to be to NTFS - and
possibly is less memory-intensive to stick to the less data-intensive FAT32
(a thought that never occured to me before. I used XP Home, with 256MB RAM,
on an 850 Athlon machine, from 2002 to 2007, for most of that time on
FAT32 - though I didn't notice any problems when I did use NTFS).

I certainly had no problems for instance watching DVDs on it or running a
USB broadband modem. Or running two hard disks and multibooting. In fact,
this may be a telling point about me, or about people in general (I've used
this as an example for why people should persevere with new software, not
delete it after 5 minutes - like my father does): as with Firefox, which I
ran for a year before I actually began to use it in preference to Internet
Explorer, I dual-booted Win Me and XP Home for one year before I began to
use XP more than Me. That was basically the time it took for the stability
and performance improvements to outweigh the reluctance to abandon the
familiar (though eventually I abandoned the Luna interface for once and for
all).

Maybe your experience is the exception.

Shane



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Old January 21st 09, 07:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Be careful when working with a Gateway computer. A lot of the stuff was
proprietory and anything not Gateway was not compatable. If you were more
experienced, I'd say Linux is a possibility, but really, you should stick
with ME.
--
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"mdwiaterski" wrote:

what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me. I know
microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program but there has
got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least partialy up to date. I
dont have a lot of money and I am not a computer wiz.

 




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