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#1
October 3rd 08, 12:01 AM
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q823559
[Begin crosspost to Win98 General newsgroup]
Thread history: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...5c688cdb10b216 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The 0x801901F4 error(s) means that the update(s) failed to download AND install. IIRC only older versions of Zone Alarm firewall will work properly in Win98, Jim. If you're NOT running Zone Alarm v6.1.744.1, uninstall it now. [If you're connecting to the DSL modem via a router, the router alone should provide adequate protection for the Win98 box. Others here are sure to disagree with me but so be it.] Moving on... [You will want to print or copy/paste the following instructions into Notepad for offline reference.] 1. AFAIK, no currently supported version of SpySweeper's supported in Win98. Assuming you've not purchased SpySweeper (or if you don't get if "free" from your ISP or MSN), please (a) disable all SpySweeper Guards (protections) then (b) uninstall it. 2. Very briefly & temporarily, disable ZA firewall (if still installed) *and* all SpySweeper Guards (if still installed) *and* Avast *and* physically disconnect the machine from the internet. Don't reconnect until Step #4 below! 3a. Now overinstall IE6 SP1 per my previous reply to this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...441e1a72a2d39b 3b. After rebooting, repeat Step #2 above!! 4. Now reconnect to the internet and go to Windows Update and try again. Follow all prompts. NB: Don't do ANYTHING else online until Avast has been re-enabled and (if you don't connect via a router) until ZA (v6.1.744.1 or earlier) has been re-enabled!! -- ~PA Bear Jim wrote: Does that error mean that the update did not successfully DL? OR does it mean that this machines log of a successful DL is in error\corrupted? The View Installation History states a successful DL and the Add\Remove software in Control Panel shows a successful DL to this machine. AND Windows Update.log : c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823559_98\823559USA8.EXE 2008-10-01 12:39:58 16:39:58 Error IUENGINE Library download error. Will retry. (Error 0x801901F4) No, I did not do an overinstall of IEv.6 SP1 as of this time. Since I did a cleanboot install of IEv.6 over v.5 I do not see this a problem. Could this be a result of a previous update blocking some logging of q823559? This file: %windir%\kb823559.log is not found. ref. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910339 AV-Avast; AS-SpySweeper; FW-ZA DSL "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: 0x801901F4 BG_E_HTTP_ERROR_500 The server encountered an unexpected condition that prevented it from fulfilling the request. Yes, both errors point to the same problem. Have you tried overinstalling IE6 SP1 as I suggested in an earlier reply to this thread? What anti-virus application or security suite is installed? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? How is the machine connecting to the internet (i.e., dial-up; DSL; cable; satellite)? Is a router involved? Is an internet (or web) accelerator installed (typically included with low-priced dial-up ISPs)? Jim wrote: I just tried again the update and this is the log of it with 1 error in the log; from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp 2008-10-01 12:39:50 16:39:50 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-01 12:39:51 16:39:51 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Download started 2008-10-01 12:39:51 16:39:51 Success IUENGINE Download destination root folder is: c:\WUTemp 2008-10-01 12:39:58 16:39:58 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...7b31da9da9.EXE 2008-10-01 12:39:58 16:39:58 Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823559_98\823559USA8.EXE 2008-10-01 12:39:58 16:39:58 Error IUENGINE Library download error. Will retry. (Error 0x801901F4) 2008-10-01 12:39:59 16:39:59 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for details: Download finished 2008-10-01 12:39:59 16:39:59 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Install started 2008-10-01 12:39:59 16:39:59 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Install completed startup 2008-10-01 12:39:59 16:39:59 Success IUENGINE Installing SOFTWARE item from publisher com_microsoft 2008-10-01 12:39:59 16:39:59 Success IUENGINE Installer Command Type: EXE 2008-10-01 12:40:01 16:40:01 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for details: Install finished This is the same error that is triggering the Windows Critical Update to prompt...? 
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#2
October 3rd 08, 10:03 PM
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q823559
OK, I tried this approach and on the ie6setup.exe the minimal and the prompt
at the end of the install secession states [radio button] all these components are already installed do you want to exit and the other [radio] asks if the you want to install all components. So I just chose nextnexton out. Is that the correct way? Then I went to win update and tried again and the log in %windir% looks ok. Here is part of the logging and no apparent errors: 2008-10-03 14:55:09 18:55:09 Success IUCTL Starting 2008-10-03 14:55:10 18:55:10 Success IUCTL Downloaded iuident.cab from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v4/ to C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4 2008-10-03 14:55:10 18:55:10 Success IUCTL Checking to see if new version of Windows Update software available 2008-10-03 14:55:10 18:55:10 Success IUCTL Current iuctl.dll version: 5.3.3790.13 2008-10-03 14:55:10 18:55:10 Success IUCTL Current iuengine.dll version: 5.3.3716.1 2008-10-03 14:55:11 18:55:11 Success IUENGINE Starting 2008-10-03 14:55:12 18:55:12 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 14:55:12 18:55:12 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 14:59:18 18:59:18 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 14:59:19 18:59:19 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 14:59:23 18:59:23 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 14:59:28 18:59:28 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 14:59:31 18:59:31 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 14:59:31 18:59:31 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:00:23 19:00:23 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:00:24 19:00:24 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Download started 2008-10-03 15:00:24 19:00:24 Success IUENGINE Download destination root folder is: c:\WUTemp 2008-10-03 15:00:29 19:00:29 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...7b31da9da9.EXE 2008-10-03 15:00:29 19:00:29 Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823559_98\823559USA8.EXE 2008-10-03 15:00:29 19:00:29 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for details: Download finished 2008-10-03 15:00:29 19:00:29 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Install started 2008-10-03 15:00:29 19:00:29 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Install completed startup 2008-10-03 15:00:29 19:00:29 Success IUENGINE Installing SOFTWARE item from publisher com_microsoft 2008-10-03 15:00:29 19:00:29 Success IUENGINE Installer Command Type: EXE 2008-10-03 15:00:30 19:00:30 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for details: Install finished OK, I turn on the FW-ZA and for the moment a v.9 active shield for McAfee. I go back and check scan for the updates and here is the log at the next later times with the errors back: 2008-10-03 15:50:14 19:50:14 Success IUENGINE Starting 2008-10-03 15:50:14 19:50:14 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 15:50:14 19:50:14 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 15:50:19 19:50:19 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:50:19 19:50:19 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:50:23 19:50:23 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:50:28 19:50:28 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:50:30 19:50:30 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 15:50:30 19:50:30 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:50:54 19:50:54 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:50:55 19:50:55 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Download started 2008-10-03 15:50:55 19:50:55 Success IUENGINE Download destination root folder is: c:\WUTemp 2008-10-03 15:51:00 19:51:00 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...7b31da9da9.EXE 2008-10-03 15:51:00 19:51:00 Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823559_98\823559USA8.EXE 2008-10-03 15:51:00 19:51:00 Error IUENGINE Library download error. Will retry. (Error 0x801901F4) 2008-10-03 15:51:01 19:51:01 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for details: Download finished 2008-10-03 15:51:01 19:51:01 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Install started 2008-10-03 15:51:01 19:51:01 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Install completed startup 2008-10-03 15:51:01 19:51:01 Success IUENGINE Installing SOFTWARE item from publisher com_microsoft 2008-10-03 15:51:01 19:51:01 Success IUENGINE Installer Command Type: EXE 2008-10-03 15:51:02 19:51:02 Error IUENGINE Library download error. Will retry. (Error 0x801901F4) 2008-10-03 15:51:02 19:51:02 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for details: Install finished 2008-10-03 15:51:46 19:51:46 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:51:47 19:51:47 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:51:50 19:51:50 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:51:55 19:51:55 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:51:56 19:51:56 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 15:51:57 19:51:57 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 15:52:07 19:52:07 Success IUENGINE Shutting down 2008-10-03 15:52:07 19:52:07 Success IUCTL Shutting down The question still remains did this update install? Is there a way to check this update? "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... [Begin crosspost to Win98 General newsgroup] Thread history: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...5c688cdb10b216 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The 0x801901F4 error(s) means that the update(s) failed to download AND install. IIRC only older versions of Zone Alarm firewall will work properly in Win98, Jim. If you're NOT running Zone Alarm v6.1.744.1, uninstall it now. [If you're connecting to the DSL modem via a router, the router alone should provide adequate protection for the Win98 box. Others here are sure to disagree with me but so be it.] Moving on... [You will want to print or copy/paste the following instructions into Notepad for offline reference.] 1. AFAIK, no currently supported version of SpySweeper's supported in Win98. Assuming you've not purchased SpySweeper (or if you don't get if "free" from your ISP or MSN), please (a) disable all SpySweeper Guards (protections) then (b) uninstall it. 2. Very briefly & temporarily, disable ZA firewall (if still installed) *and* all SpySweeper Guards (if still installed) *and* Avast *and* physically disconnect the machine from the internet. Don't reconnect until Step #4 below! 3a. Now overinstall IE6 SP1 per my previous reply to this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...441e1a72a2d39b 3b. After rebooting, repeat Step #2 above!! 4. Now reconnect to the internet and go to Windows Update and try again. Follow all prompts. NB: Don't do ANYTHING else online until Avast has been re-enabled and (if you don't connect via a router) until ZA (v6.1.744.1 or earlier) has been re-enabled!! -- ~PA Bear Jim wrote: Does that error mean that the update did not successfully DL? OR does it mean that this machines log of a successful DL is in error\corrupted? The View Installation History states a successful DL and the Add\Remove software in Control Panel shows a successful DL to this machine. AND Windows Update.log : c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823559_98\823559USA8.EXE 2008-10-01 12:39:58 16:39:58 Error IUENGINE Library download error. Will retry. (Error 0x801901F4) No, I did not do an overinstall of IEv.6 SP1 as of this time. Since I did a cleanboot install of IEv.6 over v.5 I do not see this a problem. Could this be a result of a previous update blocking some logging of q823559? This file: %windir%\kb823559.log is not found. ref. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910339 AV-Avast; AS-SpySweeper; FW-ZA DSL
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#3
October 3rd 08, 10:49 PM
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q823559
OK, next I tried the reinstall of ie6setup with [radio button] reinstall all
components (which is not a minimal) and went thru the whole approach again. Here I had 3 critical updates to install with a reboot at the end. This is the log of win update on this machine which appears to be successful. 2008-10-03 17:29:19 21:29:19 Success IUCTL Starting 2008-10-03 17:29:21 21:29:21 Success IUCTL Downloaded iuident.cab from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v4/ to C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4 2008-10-03 17:29:22 21:29:22 Success IUCTL Checking to see if new version of Windows Update software available 2008-10-03 17:29:22 21:29:22 Success IUCTL Current iuctl.dll version: 5.3.3790.13 2008-10-03 17:29:22 21:29:22 Success IUCTL Current iuengine.dll version: 5.3.3716.1 2008-10-03 17:29:22 21:29:22 Success IUENGINE Starting 2008-10-03 17:29:23 21:29:23 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:29:23 21:29:23 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:30:23 21:30:23 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:24 21:30:24 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:27 21:30:27 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:32 21:30:32 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:34 21:30:34 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:30:35 21:30:35 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:51 21:30:51 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:52 21:30:52 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Download started 2008-10-03 17:30:52 21:30:52 Success IUENGINE Download destination root folder is: c:\WUTemp 2008-10-03 17:31:18 21:31:18 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...aa71f51bef.exe 2008-10-03 17:31:18 21:31:18 Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q837009_OE6_SP1_W98WinME_O nly\IE6.0sp1-KB837009-x86- ENU.exe 2008-10-03 17:31:23 21:31:23 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...7b31da9da9.EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:23 21:31:23 Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823559_98\823559USA8.EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:35 21:31:35 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...B82C2EFF.e xe 2008-10-03 17:31:35 21:31:35 Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q313829_W98_5285\q313829.e xe 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for details: Download finished 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Install started 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Install completed startup 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE Installing SOFTWARE item from publisher com_microsoft 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE Installer Command Type: EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:45 21:31:45 Success IUENGINE Installing SOFTWARE item from publisher com_microsoft 2008-10-03 17:31:45 21:31:45 Success IUENGINE Installer Command Type: EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:46 21:31:46 Success IUENGINE Installing SOFTWARE item from publisher com_microsoft 2008-10-03 17:31:46 21:31:46 Success IUENGINE Installer Command Type: EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:48 21:31:48 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for details: Install finished I will check at Windows Update scan to see if this still triggers the update. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... [Begin crosspost to Win98 General newsgroup] Thread history: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...5c688cdb10b216 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The 0x801901F4 error(s) means that the update(s) failed to download AND install. IIRC only older versions of Zone Alarm firewall will work properly in Win98, Jim. If you're NOT running Zone Alarm v6.1.744.1, uninstall it now. [If you're connecting to the DSL modem via a router, the router alone should provide adequate protection for the Win98 box. Others here are sure to disagree with me but so be it.] Moving on... [You will want to print or copy/paste the following instructions into Notepad for offline reference.] 1. AFAIK, no currently supported version of SpySweeper's supported in Win98. Assuming you've not purchased SpySweeper (or if you don't get if "free" from your ISP or MSN), please (a) disable all SpySweeper Guards (protections) then (b) uninstall it. 2. Very briefly & temporarily, disable ZA firewall (if still installed) *and* all SpySweeper Guards (if still installed) *and* Avast *and* physically disconnect the machine from the internet. Don't reconnect until Step #4 below! 3a. Now overinstall IE6 SP1 per my previous reply to this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...441e1a72a2d39b 3b. After rebooting, repeat Step #2 above!! 4. Now reconnect to the internet and go to Windows Update and try again. Follow all prompts. NB: Don't do ANYTHING else online until Avast has been re-enabled and (if you don't connect via a router) until ZA (v6.1.744.1 or earlier) has been re-enabled!! -- ~PA Bear
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#4
October 3rd 08, 11:08 PM
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q823559
Windows Update Welcome scan still triggers the update q823559 as not
installed. Here is the winupdatelog: 2008-10-03 17:50:42 21:50:42 Success IUCTL Starting 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Downloaded iuident.cab from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v4/ to C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Checking to see if new version of Windows Update software available 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Current iuctl.dll version: 5.3.3790.13 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Current iuengine.dll version: 5.3.3716.1 2008-10-03 17:50:44 21:50:44 Success IUENGINE Starting 2008-10-03 17:50:45 21:50:45 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:50:45 21:50:45 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:50:50 21:50:50 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:50:51 21:50:51 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:50:54 21:50:54 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:51:00 21:51:00 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:51:04 21:51:04 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:51:05 21:51:05 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp The "Personalized"\Custom scan does not trigger this critical update q823559 as needed. The log: 2008-10-03 18:01:07 22:01:07 Success IUENGINE Starting 2008-10-03 18:01:07 22:01:07 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 18:01:07 22:01:07 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 18:01:34 22:01:34 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:34 22:01:34 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:38 22:01:38 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:43 22:01:43 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:44 22:01:44 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 18:01:45 22:01:45 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp
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#5
October 3rd 08, 11:14 PM
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q823559
[Well, I'm certainly glad I hadn't sent my reply to your last post yet! As
it looks like you intend to make another post to this thread soon, I think I'll reserve my comments for now...other than to confirm that KB313829, KB837009, and KB823559 appear to have installed successfully this time around.] Jim wrote: OK, next I tried the reinstall of ie6setup with [radio button] reinstall all components (which is not a minimal) and went thru the whole approach again. Here I had 3 critical updates to install with a reboot at the end. This is the log of win update on this machine which appears to be successful. 2008-10-03 17:29:19 21:29:19 Success IUCTL Starting 2008-10-03 17:29:21 21:29:21 Success IUCTL Downloaded iuident.cab from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v4/ to C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4 2008-10-03 17:29:22 21:29:22 Success IUCTL Checking to see if new version of Windows Update software available 2008-10-03 17:29:22 21:29:22 Success IUCTL Current iuctl.dll version: 5.3.3790.13 2008-10-03 17:29:22 21:29:22 Success IUCTL Current iuengine.dll version: 5.3.3716.1 2008-10-03 17:29:22 21:29:22 Success IUENGINE Starting 2008-10-03 17:29:23 21:29:23 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:29:23 21:29:23 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:30:23 21:30:23 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:24 21:30:24 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:27 21:30:27 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:32 21:30:32 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:34 21:30:34 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:30:35 21:30:35 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:51 21:30:51 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:30:52 21:30:52 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Download started 2008-10-03 17:30:52 21:30:52 Success IUENGINE Download destination root folder is: c:\WUTemp 2008-10-03 17:31:18 21:31:18 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...aa71f51bef.exe 2008-10-03 17:31:18 21:31:18 Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q837009_OE6_SP1_W98WinME_O nly\IE6.0sp1-KB837009-x86- ENU.exe 2008-10-03 17:31:23 21:31:23 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...7b31da9da9.EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:23 21:31:23 Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823559_98\823559USA8.EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:35 21:31:35 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...B82C2EFF.e xe 2008-10-03 17:31:35 21:31:35 Success IUENGINE Local path c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q313829_W98_5285\q313829.e xe 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for details: Download finished 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Install started 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE Asynchronous Install completed startup 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE Installing SOFTWARE item from publisher com_microsoft 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE Installer Command Type: EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:45 21:31:45 Success IUENGINE Installing SOFTWARE item from publisher com_microsoft 2008-10-03 17:31:45 21:31:45 Success IUENGINE Installer Command Type: EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:46 21:31:46 Success IUENGINE Installing SOFTWARE item from publisher com_microsoft 2008-10-03 17:31:46 21:31:46 Success IUENGINE Installer Command Type: EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:48 21:31:48 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for details: Install finished I will check at Windows Update scan to see if this still triggers the update. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... [Begin crosspost to Win98 General newsgroup] Thread history: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...5c688cdb10b216 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The 0x801901F4 error(s) means that the update(s) failed to download AND install. IIRC only older versions of Zone Alarm firewall will work properly in Win98, Jim. If you're NOT running Zone Alarm v6.1.744.1, uninstall it now. [If you're connecting to the DSL modem via a router, the router alone should provide adequate protection for the Win98 box. Others here are sure to disagree with me but so be it.] Moving on... [You will want to print or copy/paste the following instructions into Notepad for offline reference.] 1. AFAIK, no currently supported version of SpySweeper's supported in Win98. Assuming you've not purchased SpySweeper (or if you don't get if "free" from your ISP or MSN), please (a) disable all SpySweeper Guards (protections) then (b) uninstall it. 2. Very briefly & temporarily, disable ZA firewall (if still installed) *and* all SpySweeper Guards (if still installed) *and* Avast *and* physically disconnect the machine from the internet. Don't reconnect until Step #4 below! 3a. Now overinstall IE6 SP1 per my previous reply to this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...441e1a72a2d39b 3b. After rebooting, repeat Step #2 above!! 4. Now reconnect to the internet and go to Windows Update and try again. Follow all prompts. NB: Don't do ANYTHING else online until Avast has been re-enabled and (if you don't connect via a router) until ZA (v6.1.744.1 or earlier) has been re-enabled!! -- ~PA Bear
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#6
October 3rd 08, 11:20 PM
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Are you finished for now or should I wait for more posts?
Neither of the 2 logs below have anything whatsoever to say about Q823559/KB823559. Jim wrote: Windows Update Welcome scan still triggers the update q823559 as not installed. Here is the winupdatelog: 2008-10-03 17:50:42 21:50:42 Success IUCTL Starting 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Downloaded iuident.cab from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v4/ to C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Checking to see if new version of Windows Update software available 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Current iuctl.dll version: 5.3.3790.13 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Current iuengine.dll version: 5.3.3716.1 2008-10-03 17:50:44 21:50:44 Success IUENGINE Starting 2008-10-03 17:50:45 21:50:45 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:50:45 21:50:45 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:50:50 21:50:50 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:50:51 21:50:51 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:50:54 21:50:54 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:51:00 21:51:00 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:51:04 21:51:04 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:51:05 21:51:05 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp The "Personalized"\Custom scan does not trigger this critical update q823559 as needed. The log: 2008-10-03 18:01:07 22:01:07 Success IUENGINE Starting 2008-10-03 18:01:07 22:01:07 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 18:01:07 22:01:07 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 18:01:34 22:01:34 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:34 22:01:34 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:38 22:01:38 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:43 22:01:43 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:44 22:01:44 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 18:01:45 22:01:45 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp
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October 3rd 08, 11:56 PM
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Jim wrote:
| OK, next I tried the reinstall of ie6setup with [radio button] | reinstall all components (which is not a minimal) and went thru the | whole approach again. Here I had 3 critical updates to install with a | reboot at the end. This is the log of win update on this machine | which appears to be successful. | ....snip... | Download destination root folder is: c:\WUTemp 2008-10-03 17:31:18 | 21:31:18 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file | http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...aa71f51bef.exe | 2008-10-03 17:31:18 21:31:18 Success IUENGINE Local path | c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q837009_OE6_SP1_W98WinME_O nly\IE6.0sp1-KB837009- x86- | ENU.exe 2008-10-03 17:31:23 21:31:23 Success IUENGINE | Downloaded file | http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...7b31da9da9.EXE | 2008-10-03 17:31:23 21:31:23 Success IUENGINE Local path | c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q823559_98\823559USA8.EXE 2008-10-03 17:31:35 | 21:31:35 Success IUENGINE Downloaded file | http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...B82C2EFF.e xe | 2008-10-03 17:31:35 21:31:35 Success IUENGINE Local path | c:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.Q313829_W98_5285\q313829.e xe 2008-10-03 | 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success IUENGINE See iuhist.xml for | details: Download finished 2008-10-03 17:31:36 21:31:36 Success ....snip... | I will check at Windows Update scan to see if this still triggers the | update. Yep, looks like you got 3 of them that time. I hope that solves it & you will not be offered any of them (especially 823559) again. But, if so, here are a few things to check... (1) Try to uninstall it FIRST, at "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Install/Uninstall tab". It looks like this: "Windows 98 Q823559 Update". Now, go to Windows Update, and see whether it will come in well-- & just once. (2) What are your versions of these files...?... http://support.microsoft.com/?id=kb;en-us;823559 ....Quote.. Win98 files... Date Time Version Size File name ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 27-Jun-2003 02:19 2003.1100.5426 311,864 Html32.cnv 27-Jun-2003 02:19 2003.1100.5426 116,288 Msconv97.dll ....End quote..... START button, Find, F/F, "Html32.cnv, Msconv97.dll". (No quotes, yes comma). R-Clk, & select Properties. I suppose you DID get the update, if your files look like that. What about this Registry key...?... [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{2806b4d1-cadf-4568-99df-1c8836a6b4bc}] @="Windows 98 Q823559 Update" "IsInstalled"=dword:00000001 "Locale"="EN" "Version"="4.10.0.2222" To see it... (a) "START button, Run, Regedit" (b) Click plus signs, beginning at "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE", & ending with....................... "Installed Components". (c) Click "{2806b4d1-cadf-4568-99df-1c8836a6b4bc}" in the left pane. (d) Look in the right pane. What do you see? And this one, which puts it into the left pane at... "START button, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Software Updates, W98.SE"...?... [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup\Upda tes\W98.SE\UPDQ823559] @="Windows 98 Q823559 Update" "C:\\PROGRA~1\\COMMON~1\\Micros~1\\TextConv\\html3 2.cnv"="2003.1100.5426 ..0" "C:\\PROGRA~1\\COMMON~1\\Micros~1\\TextConv\\mscon v97.dll"="2003.1100.54 26.0" Finally, there is this Registry key, which puts it in Add/Remove... [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Uninstall\ Q823559] @="" "DisplayName"="Windows 98 Q823559 Update" "UninstallString"="RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection C:\\WINDOWS\\INF\\QFE\\W98.SE\\823559UN.INF" | "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message | ... | [Begin crosspost to Win98 General newsgroup] | | Thread history: | | http://groups.google.com/group/micro...5c688cdb10b216 | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | The 0x801901F4 error(s) means that the update(s) failed to download | AND install. | | IIRC only older versions of Zone Alarm firewall will work properly | in Win98, Jim. If you're NOT running Zone Alarm v6.1.744.1, | uninstall it now. [If you're connecting to the DSL modem via a | router, the router alone should provide adequate protection for the | Win98 box. Others here are sure to disagree with me but so be it.] | | Moving on... | | [You will want to print or copy/paste the following instructions into | Notepad for offline reference.] | | 1. AFAIK, no currently supported version of SpySweeper's supported | in Win98. Assuming you've not purchased SpySweeper (or if you don't | get if "free" from your ISP or MSN), please (a) disable all | SpySweeper Guards (protections) then (b) uninstall it. | | 2. Very briefly & temporarily, disable ZA firewall (if still | installed) *and* all SpySweeper Guards (if still installed) *and* | Avast *and* physically disconnect the machine from the internet. | Don't reconnect until Step #4 below! | | 3a. Now overinstall IE6 SP1 per my previous reply to this thread: | | http://groups.google.com/group/micro...441e1a72a2d39b | | 3b. After rebooting, repeat Step #2 above!! | | 4. Now reconnect to the internet and go to Windows Update and try | again. Follow all prompts. | | NB: Don't do ANYTHING else online until Avast has been re-enabled | and (if you don't connect via a router) until ZA (v6.1.744.1 or | earlier) has been re-enabled!! | -- | ~PA Bear -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR
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#8
October 4th 08, 12:27 AM
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q823559
Please do NOT uninstall Q823559, Jim!
PCR, please let's get Jim settled before asking him to do anything else. Once I'm convinced that everything's OK, feel free to jump in. Thanks, buddy. PS: Please don't post inline replies: Poor Jim's confused enough and his replies to your inline posts will make it worse for him. -- ~Robear PCR wrote: snip Yep, looks like you got 3 of them that time. I hope that solves it & you will not be offered any of them (especially 823559) again. But, if so, here are a few things to check... (1) Try to uninstall it FIRST, at "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Install/Uninstall tab". It looks like this: "Windows 98 Q823559 Update". Now, go to Windows Update, and see whether it will come in well-- & just once. snip
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#9
October 4th 08, 12:33 AM
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I'll assume that's it for now, Jim.
Everything looks just fine now but I have a few question & comments. ============================ PLEASE CONFIRM that you completed Step #1, #2, #3a and #3b in my previous reply (02 October) before you did Step #4. OK, I turn on the FW-ZA and for the moment a v.9 active shield for McAfee. What version of ZoneAlarm is installed? Does the Win98 machine connect via a router or directly to the DSL modem? Yesterday you'd told us that you were running Avast Anti-Virus, now you cite McAfee VirusScan. What's up with that? Do you have both Avast and VirusScan installed? VirusScan 9 is a few years old (e.g., 3 or 4, I believe): Are you sure it's VirusScan 9? If so, is your subscription current? -- ~PA Bear PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: Are you finished for now or should I wait for more posts? Neither of the 2 logs below have anything whatsoever to say about Q823559/KB823559. Jim wrote: Windows Update Welcome scan still triggers the update q823559 as not installed. Here is the winupdatelog: 2008-10-03 17:50:42 21:50:42 Success IUCTL Starting 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Downloaded iuident.cab from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v4/ to C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Checking to see if new version of Windows Update software available 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Current iuctl.dll version: 5.3.3790.13 2008-10-03 17:50:43 21:50:43 Success IUCTL Current iuengine.dll version: 5.3.3716.1 2008-10-03 17:50:44 21:50:44 Success IUENGINE Starting 2008-10-03 17:50:45 21:50:45 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:50:45 21:50:45 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:50:50 21:50:50 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:50:51 21:50:51 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:50:54 21:50:54 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:51:00 21:51:00 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 17:51:04 21:51:04 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 17:51:05 21:51:05 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp The "Personalized"\Custom scan does not trigger this critical update q823559 as needed. The log: 2008-10-03 18:01:07 22:01:07 Success IUENGINE Starting 2008-10-03 18:01:07 22:01:07 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 18:01:07 22:01:07 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 18:01:34 22:01:34 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:34 22:01:34 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:38 22:01:38 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:43 22:01:43 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp 2008-10-03 18:01:44 22:01:44 Success IUENGINE Determining machine configuration 2008-10-03 18:01:45 22:01:45 Success IUENGINE Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.c...etmanifest.asp
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October 4th 08, 01:32 AM
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PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
| Please do NOT uninstall Q823559, Jim! | | PCR, please let's get Jim settled before asking him to do anything | else. Once I'm convinced that everything's OK, feel free to jump in. | Thanks, buddy. | | PS: Please don't post inline replies: Poor Jim's confused enough and | his replies to your inline posts will make it worse for him. Well, I kind of recall it worked for someone to uninstall it first. Those registry keys I mentioned could be useful too. But, fine-- you go first! | -- | ~Robear | | PCR wrote: | snip | Yep, looks like you got 3 of them that time. I hope that solves it & | you will not be offered any of them (especially 823559) again. But, | if so, here are a few things to check... | | (1) Try to uninstall it FIRST, at "Control Panel, Add/Remove | Programs, Install/Uninstall tab". It looks like this: "Windows 98 | Q823559 Update". Now, go to Windows Update, and see whether it will | come in well-- & just once. | snip -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR
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