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  #1  
Old April 2nd 08, 03:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
O.J. Newman
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Posts: 80
Default newest version of avast! antivirus released v4.8

Hello:

For details see:

Press Release: newest version of avast! antivirus released
http://www.avast.com/eng/press-relea...-released.html

avast! antivirus Home Edition, anti-spyware & anti-rootkit for Windows
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-free-...tispyware.html

Note that the new v4.8 still supports Win 9x/ME, although not all features
are supported on these older platforms.

But the good news is that there is still a good anti-malware package that
currently supports these older platforms!

Cheers,
O.J.

P.S. Sorry for the cross-post.


  #2  
Old April 2nd 08, 04:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
O.J. Newman
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Posts: 80
Default newest version of avast! antivirus released v4.8

Hello Again:

See the 5-star CNet Download.com's Editor's review of Avast! Home v4.8 at:

http://www.download.com/Avast-Home-E...html?tag=lst-1 .

Cheers,
O.J.

P.S. Sorry for the cross-post.


  #3  
Old April 2nd 08, 07:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Default newest version of avast! antivirus released v4.8

cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=32749
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

O.J. Newman wrote:
Hello:

For details see:

Press Release: newest version of avast! antivirus released
http://www.avast.com/eng/press-relea...-released.html

avast! antivirus Home Edition, anti-spyware & anti-rootkit for Windows
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-free-...tispyware.html

Note that the new v4.8 still supports Win 9x/ME, although not all features
are supported on these older platforms.

But the good news is that there is still a good anti-malware package that
currently supports these older platforms!

Cheers,
O.J.

P.S. Sorry for the cross-post.


  #4  
Old April 3rd 08, 01:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
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Posts: 4,396
Default newest version of avast! antivirus released v4.8

O.J. Newman wrote:
| Hello:
|
| For details see:
|
| Press Release: newest version of avast! antivirus released
| http://www.avast.com/eng/press-relea...-released.html
|
| avast! antivirus Home Edition, anti-spyware & anti-rootkit for Windows
| http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
|
| Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
| http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-free-...tispyware.html
|
| Note that the new v4.8 still supports Win 9x/ME, although not all
| features are supported on these older platforms.

Thanks. Odd, I had mine set to "ask when update is available"-- but it
didn't! Anyhow, the Update Now button worked...

Information about current update:
Total time: 19:12

- Program: Updated
(previous version: 4.7.1098, updated version: 4.8.1169)
- Vps: Already up to date
(current version 080401-0)
- Setup: Updated
(previous version: 4.7.1098, updated version: 4.8.1169)

Server: download634.avast.com (75.125.190.82)
Downloaded files: 28 (2,350.44 KB)
Download time: 7:01

Afterwards, all seems well, & all my avast! settings & my OE & IE
avast!-related settings were intact.

| But the good news is that there is still a good anti-malware package
| that currently supports these older platforms!

Yea. Despite the few peccadilloes,...

(a) It didn't inform me of this program update.
(b) Though clicking the Update Now button did get it--
I wasn't informed to reboot afterward, & there
was a TON of stuff inside Wininit.ini!
(c) It gives me a false alarm on one file that is
inside a RioPort self-executable (SetUpMDM.exe).
(d) It doesn't seem to go inside every self-executable
.exe to scan the files inside. Noteably, it won't go
the MS "USA8" self-executables.
(e) It can cause harmlessly lost icons (the little ones
left of program & folder names). But that can be
avoided, & they do return at reboot anyhow.
(f) Its update process includes pauses without
warnings to wait.

.... I remain pleased with avast! Home Edition. It does do a lot very
well!

| Cheers,
| O.J.
|
| P.S. Sorry for the cross-post.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



  #5  
Old April 3rd 08, 03:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
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Posts: 4,396
Default newest version of avast! antivirus released v4.8

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
| cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=32749

Uh-oh! I see it says one must upgrade instead of update...

"Please note that you must upgrade to Avast v4.8.1169, not update Avast
v4.7 (You do not need to uninstall your current version.)"

Why!? I did the update last night! I see it says...

"An input validation error within the 0xb2d60030 IOCTL handler of the
aavmker4.sys driver can be exploited e.g. to overwrite arbitrary kernel
memory via a specially crafted IOCTL request."

But I have no Aavmker4.sys file in my avast! 4.8.1169 Home Edition, & I
know there was none in my v.4.7.1098 either. Can this be a Professional
Edition problem only, or can it apply only to XP/Vista versions?

| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
| AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
| DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
|
| O.J. Newman wrote:
| Hello:
|
| For details see:
|
| Press Release: newest version of avast! antivirus released
| http://www.avast.com/eng/press-relea...-released.html
|
| avast! antivirus Home Edition, anti-spyware & anti-rootkit for
| Windows http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
|
| Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
| http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-free-...tispyware.html
|
| Note that the new v4.8 still supports Win 9x/ME, although not all
| features are supported on these older platforms.
|
| But the good news is that there is still a good anti-malware package
| that currently supports these older platforms!
|
| Cheers,
| O.J.
|
| P.S. Sorry for the cross-post.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



  #6  
Old April 3rd 08, 06:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_2_]
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Posts: 1,626
Default newest version of avast! antivirus released v4.8

Took the v8 update as an *update*, what am I supposedly looking for as far
as issues related to this way of updating verses the over-install with the
full download?

BTW PCR: AVAST update DID request to shutdown the computer after the update
on this computer.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
| cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=32749
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
| AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
| DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
|
| O.J. Newman wrote:
| Hello:
|
| For details see:
|
| Press Release: newest version of avast! antivirus released
| http://www.avast.com/eng/press-relea...-released.html
|
| avast! antivirus Home Edition, anti-spyware & anti-rootkit for Windows
| http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
|
| Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
| http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-free-...tispyware.html
|
| Note that the new v4.8 still supports Win 9x/ME, although not all
features
| are supported on these older platforms.
|
| But the good news is that there is still a good anti-malware package
that
| currently supports these older platforms!
|
| Cheers,
| O.J.
|
| P.S. Sorry for the cross-post.
|



  #7  
Old April 3rd 08, 06:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_2_]
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Posts: 1,626
Default newest version of avast! antivirus released v4.8

A re-send, ignore if the original comes through....

Took the v8 update as an *update*, what am I supposedly looking for as far
as issues related to this way of updating verses the over-install with the
full download?

BTW PCR: AVAST update DID request to shutdown the computer after the update
on this computer.

_________
--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
| cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=32749
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
| AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
| DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
|
| O.J. Newman wrote:
| Hello:
|
| For details see:
|
| Press Release: newest version of avast! antivirus released
| http://www.avast.com/eng/press-relea...-released.html
|
| avast! antivirus Home Edition, anti-spyware & anti-rootkit for Windows
| http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
|
| Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
| http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-free-...tispyware.html
|
| Note that the new v4.8 still supports Win 9x/ME, although not all
features
| are supported on these older platforms.
|
| But the good news is that there is still a good anti-malware package
that
| currently supports these older platforms!
|
| Cheers,
| O.J.
|
| P.S. Sorry for the cross-post.
|


  #8  
Old April 5th 08, 12:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 4,396
Default newest version of avast! antivirus released v4.8

MEB wrote:
| Took the v8 update as an *update*, what am I supposedly looking for
| as far as issues related to this way of updating verses the
| over-install with the full download?

I think Bear went back into his Antarctic cave to continue his
hibernation like that groundhog did a few weeks ago! But I have found...
http://www.file.net/process/aavmker4.sys.html
.....Quote...........
Aavmker4.sys file information

The process avast! Base Kernel-Mode Device Driver for Windows NT/2000/XP
belongs to the software avast! Antivirus System by ALWIL Software
(www.avast.com).
......EOF..............

That seems to indicate it is not a Win98 problem. Anyhow, I don't have
no stinking Aavmker4.sys file in this computer! And I don't want one!

| BTW PCR: AVAST update DID request to shutdown the computer after the
| update on this computer.

Interesting. Maybe I didn't wait long enough for the request. There are
inordinant pauses during avast!'s update procedures! But all seems to be
well. Well, does your Wininit.bak look just like this...

[rename]
nul=C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\SETUP\REBOOT.TXT
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavm4h.dll=c:\progra~1 \alwils~1\avast4\aav72
64.tmp
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavmguih.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\aav
7265.tmp
......about a trillion deleted.....................................
.....but, are your 1st/last three the same as mine?...
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswcmns.dll=c:\progra~ 1\alwils~1\avast4\asw7
2e5.tmp
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswengin.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\asw
72f1.tmp
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswscan.dll=c:\progra~ 1\alwils~1\avast4\asw7
2f2.tmp

| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
|
| "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
| ...
|| cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=32749
|| --
|| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
|| MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
|| AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
|| DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
||
|| O.J. Newman wrote:
|| Hello:
||
|| For details see:
||
|| Press Release: newest version of avast! antivirus released
|| http://www.avast.com/eng/press-relea...-released.html
||
|| avast! antivirus Home Edition, anti-spyware & anti-rootkit for
|| Windows http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
||
|| Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
|| http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-free-...tispyware.html
||
|| Note that the new v4.8 still supports Win 9x/ME, although not all
|| features are supported on these older platforms.
||
|| But the good news is that there is still a good anti-malware
|| package that currently supports these older platforms!
||
|| Cheers,
|| O.J.
||
|| P.S. Sorry for the cross-post.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



  #9  
Old April 5th 08, 06:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default newest version of avast! antivirus released v4.8



"PCR" wrote in message
...
| MEB wrote:
| | Took the v8 update as an *update*, what am I supposedly looking for
| | as far as issues related to this way of updating verses the
| | over-install with the full download?
|
| I think Bear went back into his Antarctic cave to continue his
| hibernation like that groundhog did a few weeks ago! But I have found...
| http://www.file.net/process/aavmker4.sys.html
| ....Quote...........
| Aavmker4.sys file information
|
| The process avast! Base Kernel-Mode Device Driver for Windows NT/2000/XP
| belongs to the software avast! Antivirus System by ALWIL Software
| (www.avast.com).
| .....EOF..............
|
| That seems to indicate it is not a Win98 problem. Anyhow, I don't have
| no stinking Aavmker4.sys file in this computer! And I don't want one!

As I found...

|
| | BTW PCR: AVAST update DID request to shutdown the computer after the
| | update on this computer.
|
| Interesting. Maybe I didn't wait long enough for the request. There are
| inordinant pauses during avast!'s update procedures! But all seems to be
| well. Well, does your Wininit.bak look just like this...
|
| [rename]
| nul=C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\SETUP\REBOOT.TXT
| c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavm4h.dll=c:\progra~1 \alwils~1\avast4\aav72
| 64.tmp
| c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavmguih.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\aav
| 7265.tmp
| .....about a trillion deleted.....................................
| ....but, are your 1st/last three the same as mine?...
| c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswcmns.dll=c:\progra~ 1\alwils~1\avast4\asw7
| 2e5.tmp
| c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswengin.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\asw
| 72f1.tmp
| c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswscan.dll=c:\progra~ 1\alwils~1\avast4\asw7
| 2f2.tmp
|

Ah, not eactly, mine has 66 entries after the [rename]. Setup.log is at
2,183 KB.
nul=C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\SETUP\REBOOT.TXT
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavm4h.dll=c:\progra~1 \alwils~1\avast4\aav3183.t
mp
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavmguih.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\aav3184
..tmp
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavmrpch.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\aav3185
..tmp
----
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswcmns.dll=c:\progra~ 1\alwils~1\avast4\asw31b5.
tmp
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswengin.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\asw31b6
..tmp
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswscan.dll=c:\progra~ 1\alwils~1\avast4\asw31b7.
tmp


AND mine was a newer version/download when installed [couple months ago]
after the last update you did when we previously discussed AVAST [for this
new test config]..

Information about current update:
Total time: 31 s

- Program: Already up to date
(current version 4.8.1169)
- Vps: Already up to date
(current version 080404-0)

Server: download921.avast.com (74.86.125.42)
Downloaded files: 2 (0.02 KB)
Download time: 4 s


--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

| |
| |
| | "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
| | ...
| || cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=32749
| || --
| || ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| || MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
| || AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
| || DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
| ||
| || O.J. Newman wrote:
| || Hello:
| ||
| || For details see:
| ||
| || Press Release: newest version of avast! antivirus released
| || http://www.avast.com/eng/press-relea...-released.html
| ||
| || avast! antivirus Home Edition, anti-spyware & anti-rootkit for
| || Windows http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
| ||
| || Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
| || http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-free-...tispyware.html
| ||
| || Note that the new v4.8 still supports Win 9x/ME, although not all
| || features are supported on these older platforms.
| ||
| || But the good news is that there is still a good anti-malware
| || package that currently supports these older platforms!
| ||
| || Cheers,
| || O.J.
| ||
| || P.S. Sorry for the cross-post.
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
|
|


  #10  
Old April 6th 08, 06:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 4,396
Default newest version of avast! antivirus released v4.8

MEB wrote:
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
|| MEB wrote:
|| | Took the v8 update as an *update*, what am I supposedly looking for
|| | as far as issues related to this way of updating verses the
|| | over-install with the full download?
||
|| I think Bear went back into his Antarctic cave to continue his
|| hibernation like that groundhog did a few weeks ago! But I have
|| found... http://www.file.net/process/aavmker4.sys.html
|| ....Quote...........
|| Aavmker4.sys file information
||
|| The process avast! Base Kernel-Mode Device Driver for Windows
|| NT/2000/XP belongs to the software avast! Antivirus System by ALWIL
|| Software (www.avast.com).
|| .....EOF..............
||
|| That seems to indicate it is not a Win98 problem. Anyhow, I don't
|| have no stinking Aavmker4.sys file in this computer! And I don't
|| want one!
|
| As I found...

OK. I'm happy enough, then, that we are OK-- & I don't hear the Bear
growling yet. I've taken in the full download (at least 1.5 hours
worth)...

E:\My Downloads\Programs\Installeddir avast!*
Directory of E:\My Downloads\Programs\Installed
AVAST!~1 EXE 21,787,912 04-03-08 12:25a
Avast!v.4.8.1169.0_setupeng.exe

However, I haven't run it from there, but only did the update.

||
|| | BTW PCR: AVAST update DID request to shutdown the computer after
|| | the update on this computer.
||
|| Interesting. Maybe I didn't wait long enough for the request. There
|| are inordinant pauses during avast!'s update procedures! But all
|| seems to be well. Well, does your Wininit.bak look just like this...
||
|| [rename]
|| nul=C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\SETUP\REBOOT.TXT
||
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavm4h.dll=c:\progra~1 \alwils~1\avast4\aav72
|| 64.tmp
||
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavmguih.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\aav
|| 7265.tmp
|| .....about a trillion deleted.....................................
|| ....but, are your 1st/last three the same as mine?...
||
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswcmns.dll=c:\progra~ 1\alwils~1\avast4\asw7
|| 2e5.tmp
||
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswengin.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\asw
|| 72f1.tmp
||
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswscan.dll=c:\progra~ 1\alwils~1\avast4\asw7
|| 2f2.tmp
||
|
| Ah, not eactly, mine has 66 entries after the [rename].

Your 1s/last three look just like mine. I guess I rebooted at the right
time. And, yea, it took 3 counts-- but I have 67 total lines in
Winit.bak too!

| Setup.log is at 2,183 KB.

Both of mine are larger than that...!...

Directory of C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\Setup
SETUP LOG 3,225,087 04-06-08 1:00a setup.log

Directory of C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log
SETUP LOG 4,405,154 04-06-08 1:00a Setup.log

| nul=C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\AVAST4\SETUP\REBOOT.TXT
|
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavm4h.dll=c:\progra~1 \alwils~1\avast4\aav31
83.t
| mp
|
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavmguih.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\aav
3184
| .tmp
|
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aavmrpch.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\aav
3185
| .tmp
| ----
|
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswcmns.dll=c:\progra~ 1\alwils~1\avast4\asw3
1b5.
| tmp
|
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswengin.dll=c:\progra ~1\alwils~1\avast4\asw
31b6
| .tmp
|
c:\progra~1\alwils~1\avast4\aswscan.dll=c:\progra~ 1\alwils~1\avast4\asw3
1b7.
| tmp
|
|
| AND mine was a newer version/download when installed [couple months
| ago] after the last update you did when we previously discussed AVAST
| [for this new test config]..
|
| Information about current update:
| Total time: 31 s
|
| - Program: Already up to date
| (current version 4.8.1169)
| - Vps: Already up to date
| (current version 080404-0)
|
| Server: download921.avast.com (74.86.125.42)
| Downloaded files: 2 (0.02 KB)
| Download time: 4 s

Well, we have the same version now, as I posted earlier...

Information about current update:
Total time: 19:12

- Program: Updated
(previous version: 4.7.1098, updated version: 4.8.1169)
- Vps: Already up to date
(current version 080401-0)
- Setup: Updated
(previous version: 4.7.1098, updated version: 4.8.1169)

Server: download634.avast.com (75.125.190.82)
Downloaded files: 28 (2,350.44 KB)
Download time: 7:01

Afterwards, all seems well, & all my avast! settings & my OE & IE
avast!-related settings were intact.

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| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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|| |
|| |
|| | "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
|| | ...
|| || cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=32749
|| || --
|| || ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
|| || MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
|| || AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
|| || DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
|| ||
|| || O.J. Newman wrote:
|| || Hello:
|| ||
|| || For details see:
|| ||
|| || Press Release: newest version of avast! antivirus released
|| || http://www.avast.com/eng/press-relea...-released.html
|| ||
|| || avast! antivirus Home Edition, anti-spyware & anti-rootkit for
|| || Windows http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
|| ||
|| || Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
|| ||
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-free-...tispyware.html
|| ||
|| || Note that the new v4.8 still supports Win 9x/ME, although not
|| || all features are supported on these older platforms.
|| ||
|| || But the good news is that there is still a good anti-malware
|| || package that currently supports these older platforms!
|| ||
|| || Cheers,
|| || O.J.
|| ||
|| || P.S. Sorry for the cross-post.
||
|| --
|| Thanks or Good Luck,
|| There may be humor in this post, and,
|| Naturally, you will not sue,
|| Should things get worse after this,
|| PCR
||

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



 




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