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  #21  
Old May 15th 05, 09:01 AM
Mikhail Zhilin
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Jerry,

I'm sure,
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q229154
is your case.

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Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:15:11 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:


I copied the files to a folder on c:. but when i ran setup....same msg.
,to be exact:
"Setup does not have enough conventional memory to check your computers
hard disks. You need to free some conventional memory before
continuing.

For information on freeing conventional memory see SETUP.TXT on setup
disk or windows 98 cd."

What now? I know I'm nearing scrapping this whole thing but there has
got to be a way to get this disk to work. It's a legit disk...and i
already have 98....this should be easy right? simple update
installation? BTW...as you suggested i was in safe mode, so with only
essentials running, how could i run on any less memory?

Ben Myers Wrote:
If you have plenty of disk space, copy the contents of the upgrade
CD to the hard drive, then restart the computer from the floppy
using "...without CD-ROM support" and type "win /d:m". Then run
setup again.

Ben

...
  #22  
Old May 22nd 05, 10:18 PM
Jerry C.
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Question

Mikhail, its a 30G HD split into three 10G partitions. But if i recall correctly I didn't use any third party software to partition, just what came with the Western Digital HD when i put it in. And scandisk and defrag work (albeit slowly) in normal windows mode. This is the first time i've run into this error. How could i check the cluster size?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikhail Zhilin
Jerry,

I'm sure,
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q229154
is your case.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:15:11 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:


I copied the files to a folder on c:. but when i ran setup....same msg.
,to be exact:
"Setup does not have enough conventional memory to check your computers
hard disks. You need to free some conventional memory before
continuing.

For information on freeing conventional memory see SETUP.TXT on setup
disk or windows 98 cd."

What now? I know I'm nearing scrapping this whole thing but there has
got to be a way to get this disk to work. It's a legit disk...and i
already have 98....this should be easy right? simple update
installation? BTW...as you suggested i was in safe mode, so with only
essentials running, how could i run on any less memory?

Ben Myers Wrote:
If you have plenty of disk space, copy the contents of the upgrade
CD to the hard drive, then restart the computer from the floppy
using "...without CD-ROM support" and type "win /d:m". Then run
setup again.

Ben

...
  #23  
Old May 23rd 05, 04:29 AM
Ron Badour
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I am not sure the 229154 article pertains to your problem. Have you read
about the error message that you are receiving in the setup.txt file that is
on the W98 CD and followed the scandisk directions it gives?

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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Jerry C." wrote in message
...

Mikhail, its a 30G HD split into three 10G partitions. But if i recall
correctly I didn't use any third party software to partition, just what
came with the Western Digital HD when i put it in. And scandisk and
defrag work (albeit slowly) in normal windows mode. This is the first
time i've run into this error. How could i check the cluster size?

Mikhail Zhilin Wrote:
Jerry,

I'm sure,
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q229154
is your case.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:15:11 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:
-

I copied the files to a folder on c:. but when i ran setup....same
msg.
,to be exact:
"Setup does not have enough conventional memory to check your
computers
hard disks. You need to free some conventional memory before
continuing.

For information on freeing conventional memory see SETUP.TXT on setup
disk or windows 98 cd."

What now? I know I'm nearing scrapping this whole thing but there has
got to be a way to get this disk to work. It's a legit disk...and i
already have 98....this should be easy right? simple update
installation? BTW...as you suggested i was in safe mode, so with only
essentials running, how could i run on any less memory?

Ben Myers Wrote:-
If you have plenty of disk space, copy the contents of the upgrade
CD to the hard drive, then restart the computer from the floppy
using "...without CD-ROM support" and type "win /d:m". Then run
setup again.

Ben--
...



--
Jerry C.



  #24  
Old May 23rd 05, 11:43 AM
Mikhail Zhilin
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Jerry,

If the drive was partitioned using WD utilities, and all the drives are
10GB, and scandisk and defrag work -- actually, as Ron said, the article
q229154 may be inapplicable. But (the symptoms say about that
nevertheless) just in case run (Start -- Run...) Command.com, or Start
-- Programs -- MS DOS, in the opened DOS window type, followed by Enter
key:

chkdsk c:

and see what it says about the clusters (allocation units) size: for
10-GB drives it is 8192 bytes by default.

Then run
chkdsk d:

and finally --
chkdsk e:

and see the results as well.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:18:59 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:


Mikhail, its a 30G HD split into three 10G partitions. But if i recall
correctly I didn't use any third party software to partition, just what
came with the Western Digital HD when i put it in. And scandisk and
defrag work (albeit slowly) in normal windows mode. This is the first
time i've run into this error. How could i check the cluster size?

Mikhail Zhilin Wrote:
Jerry,

I'm sure,
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q229154
is your case.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:15:11 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:
-

I copied the files to a folder on c:. but when i ran setup....same
msg.
,to be exact:
"Setup does not have enough conventional memory to check your
computers
hard disks. You need to free some conventional memory before
continuing.

For information on freeing conventional memory see SETUP.TXT on setup
disk or windows 98 cd."

What now? I know I'm nearing scrapping this whole thing but there has
got to be a way to get this disk to work. It's a legit disk...and i
already have 98....this should be easy right? simple update
installation? BTW...as you suggested i was in safe mode, so with only
essentials running, how could i run on any less memory?

Ben Myers Wrote:-
If you have plenty of disk space, copy the contents of the upgrade
CD to the hard drive, then restart the computer from the floppy
using "...without CD-ROM support" and type "win /d:m". Then run
setup again.

Ben--
...


  #25  
Old May 28th 05, 12:59 AM
Jerry C.
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Mikhail, all three come back as having 8192 bytes per allocation unit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikhail Zhilin
Jerry,

If the drive was partitioned using WD utilities, and all the drives are
10GB, and scandisk and defrag work -- actually, as Ron said, the article
q229154 may be inapplicable. But (the symptoms say about that
nevertheless) just in case run (Start -- Run...) Command.com, or Start
-- Programs -- MS DOS, in the opened DOS window type, followed by Enter
key:

chkdsk c:

and see what it says about the clusters (allocation units) size: for
10-GB drives it is 8192 bytes by default.

Then run
chkdsk d:

and finally --
chkdsk e:

and see the results as well.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:18:59 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:


Mikhail, its a 30G HD split into three 10G partitions. But if i recall
correctly I didn't use any third party software to partition, just what
came with the Western Digital HD when i put it in. And scandisk and
defrag work (albeit slowly) in normal windows mode. This is the first
time i've run into this error. How could i check the cluster size?

Mikhail Zhilin Wrote:
Jerry,

I'm sure,
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q229154
is your case.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:15:11 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:
-

I copied the files to a folder on c:. but when i ran setup....same
msg.
,to be exact:
"Setup does not have enough conventional memory to check your
computers
hard disks. You need to free some conventional memory before
continuing.

For information on freeing conventional memory see SETUP.TXT on setup
disk or windows 98 cd."

What now? I know I'm nearing scrapping this whole thing but there has
got to be a way to get this disk to work. It's a legit disk...and i
already have 98....this should be easy right? simple update
installation? BTW...as you suggested i was in safe mode, so with only
essentials running, how could i run on any less memory?

Ben Myers Wrote:-
If you have plenty of disk space, copy the contents of the upgrade
CD to the hard drive, then restart the computer from the floppy
using "...without CD-ROM support" and type "win /d:m". Then run
setup again.

Ben--
...
  #26  
Old May 29th 05, 01:02 AM
Ben Myers
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Try running setup with the "/c" and "/im" switches. For example, if you
copied the setup files to the "c:\win98" folder, click "Start", "Run", =
type
"c:\win98\setup /c /im" into the "Open" box and click "OK".

Ben

"Jerry C." wrote in message =
...
=20
Mikhail, all three come back as having 8192 bytes per allocation unit.
=20
Mikhail Zhilin Wrote:=20
Jerry,
=20
If the drive was partitioned using WD utilities, and all the drives
are
10GB, and scandisk and defrag work -- actually, as Ron said, the
article
q229154 may be inapplicable. But (the symptoms say about that
nevertheless) just in case run (Start -- Run...) Command.com, or =

Start
-- Programs -- MS DOS, in the opened DOS window type, followed by
Enter
key:
=20
chkdsk c:
=20
and see what it says about the clusters (allocation units) size: for
10-GB drives it is 8192 bytes by default.
=20
Then run
chkdsk d:
=20
and finally --
chkdsk e:
=20
and see the results as well.
=20
--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:18:59 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:
-
=20
Mikhail, its a 30G HD split into three 10G partitions. But if i =

recall
correctly I didn't use any third party software to partition, just
what
came with the Western Digital HD when i put it in. And scandisk and
defrag work (albeit slowly) in normal windows mode. This is the =

first
time i've run into this error. How could i check the cluster size?
=20
Mikhail Zhilin Wrote:-
Jerry,
=20
I'm sure,
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q229154
is your case.
=20
--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=20
On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:15:11 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:
-
=20
I copied the files to a folder on c:. but when i ran setup....same
msg.
,to be exact:
"Setup does not have enough conventional memory to check your
computers
hard disks. You need to free some conventional memory before
continuing.
=20
For information on freeing conventional memory see SETUP.TXT on =

setup
disk or windows 98 cd."
=20
What now? I know I'm nearing scrapping this whole thing but there =

has
got to be a way to get this disk to work. It's a legit disk...and i
already have 98....this should be easy right? simple update
installation? BTW...as you suggested i was in safe mode, so with =

only
essentials running, how could i run on any less memory?
=20
Ben Myers Wrote:-
If you have plenty of disk space, copy the contents of the upgrade
CD to the hard drive, then restart the computer from the floppy
using "...without CD-ROM support" and type "win /d:m". Then run
setup again.
=20
Ben--
...--

=20
=20
--=20
Jerry C.

  #27  
Old May 29th 05, 08:19 AM
Mikhail Zhilin
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Jerry,

You can try also the "/is" switch -- to skip Scandisk while setup.

BTW, it is the advice of
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q289727
article, where the similar problem is discussed.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
On Sat, 28 May 2005 20:02:10 -0400, "Ben Myers"
wrote:

Try running setup with the "/c" and "/im" switches. For example, if you
copied the setup files to the "c:\win98" folder, click "Start", "Run", type
"c:\win98\setup /c /im" into the "Open" box and click "OK".

Ben

"Jerry C." wrote in message ...

Mikhail, all three come back as having 8192 bytes per allocation unit.

Mikhail Zhilin Wrote:
Jerry,

If the drive was partitioned using WD utilities, and all the drives
are
10GB, and scandisk and defrag work -- actually, as Ron said, the
article
q229154 may be inapplicable. But (the symptoms say about that
nevertheless) just in case run (Start -- Run...) Command.com, or Start
-- Programs -- MS DOS, in the opened DOS window type, followed by
Enter
key:

chkdsk c:

and see what it says about the clusters (allocation units) size: for
10-GB drives it is 8192 bytes by default.

Then run
chkdsk d:

and finally --
chkdsk e:

and see the results as well.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:18:59 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:
-

Mikhail, its a 30G HD split into three 10G partitions. But if i recall
correctly I didn't use any third party software to partition, just
what
came with the Western Digital HD when i put it in. And scandisk and
defrag work (albeit slowly) in normal windows mode. This is the first
time i've run into this error. How could i check the cluster size?

Mikhail Zhilin Wrote:-
Jerry,

I'm sure,
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q229154
is your case.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:15:11 +0100, Jerry C.
wrote:
-

I copied the files to a folder on c:. but when i ran setup....same
msg.
,to be exact:
"Setup does not have enough conventional memory to check your
computers
hard disks. You need to free some conventional memory before
continuing.

For information on freeing conventional memory see SETUP.TXT on setup
disk or windows 98 cd."

What now? I know I'm nearing scrapping this whole thing but there has
got to be a way to get this disk to work. It's a legit disk...and i
already have 98....this should be easy right? simple update
installation? BTW...as you suggested i was in safe mode, so with only
essentials running, how could i run on any less memory?

Ben Myers Wrote:-
If you have plenty of disk space, copy the contents of the upgrade
CD to the hard drive, then restart the computer from the floppy
using "...without CD-ROM support" and type "win /d:m". Then run
setup again.

Ben--
...--



--
Jerry C.


 




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