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What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?



 
 
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  #91  
Old March 25th 05, 08:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update
PCR
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Posts: 4,396
Default What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?

Much as I hate to come to his defense, I suspect, if Terhune were
blindly doing anything, he'd 'a' fallen into an earthquake by now!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
| To warn people of the possible pitfalls of just blinding subscribing
to the
| "I need to get an update!" mantra.
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| So, your purpose in participating in this thread is......?
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
|
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| ...
| I'm computer savvy enough to know I'm done with those updates.
(YMMV).
| I've learned my lessons the hard way. That's my story, and I'm
stickin
| to
| it - well, at least for the most part, anyway!
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| I didn't mean that to sound as harsh as it looks. I fully
understand why
| people can't or don't want to repro the issue and/or waste more
time on
| the problem, particularly those who aren't familiar with the joys
of
| deliberately hacking their own systems, eg. Only, it would
certainly
| help if those who have experienced the problem could give more
feedback
| to the people who are now in charge of fixing it. Particularly
those
| folks who are especially computer savvy.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "glee" wrote in message
| ...
| Unfortunately, the machines I saw the problems on were at work,
the
| update
| was removed right away, and I can't put it back on to test, as it
is a
| work
| computer and I cannot "test" on those.
|
| I have not been able to repro the problem on another machine
| yet....maybe
| this weekend I can try on some old machines here at home.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| Just read the Win98.Gen_Discussion group, or the
WindowsME.General
| group, and you'll see several examples of KB891711 causing
BSODs.
| Believe me, there *is* a problem, and MS *is* working on a
solution.
| The
| biggest problem we have, now, is most people who are having
trouble
| with
| KB891711 don't seem to be willing to perform some rather simple
tests
| and return the results.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| snipped for some brevity
|
|


  #92  
Old March 25th 05, 08:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update
Bill in Co.[_20_]
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Default What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?

I didn't say it with disrespect, but just as a cautionary measure. And I
think we are all entitled to have our own opinions.

I don't think there is one "right" answer for everyone in all situations -
that's all.

PCR wrote:
Much as I hate to come to his defense, I suspect, if Terhune were
blindly doing anything, he'd 'a' fallen into an earthquake by now!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
To warn people of the possible pitfalls of just blinding subscribing to

the
"I need to get an update!" mantra.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
So, your purpose in participating in this thread is......?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
I'm computer savvy enough to know I'm done with those updates. (YMMV).
I've learned my lessons the hard way. That's my story, and I'm

stickin
to it - well, at least for the most part, anyway!

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I didn't mean that to sound as harsh as it looks. I fully understand

why
people can't or don't want to repro the issue and/or waste more time

on
the problem, particularly those who aren't familiar with the joys of
deliberately hacking their own systems, eg. Only, it would certainly
help if those who have experienced the problem could give more

feedback
to the people who are now in charge of fixing it. Particularly those
folks who are especially computer savvy.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"glee" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately, the machines I saw the problems on were at work, the
update was removed right away, and I can't put it back on to test, as

it
is a work computer and I cannot "test" on those.

I have not been able to repro the problem on another machine

yet....maybe
this weekend I can try on some old machines here at home.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Just read the Win98.Gen_Discussion group, or the WindowsME.General
group, and you'll see several examples of KB891711 causing BSODs.
Believe me, there *is* a problem, and MS *is* working on a solution.

The
biggest problem we have, now, is most people who are having trouble

with
KB891711 don't seem to be willing to perform some rather simple

tests
and return the results.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

snipped for some brevity



  #93  
Old March 25th 05, 11:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update
PCR
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Posts: 4,396
Default What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?

Naturally, I, too, have only ever insulted Terhune entirely by accident.
And the day his Poodles fail to catch him by the toes toppling into an
earthquake, I will be the FIRST to write his obituary!

OK, then. Just, keep your most important stuff isolated from the NET,
then, if you don't want any updates. Don't get lazy like I did &
ultimately keep a copy of your taxes on the hard drive! OK, bye.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
| I didn't say it with disrespect, but just as a cautionary measure.
And I
| think we are all entitled to have our own opinions.
|
| I don't think there is one "right" answer for everyone in all
situations -
| that's all.
|
| PCR wrote:
| Much as I hate to come to his defense, I suspect, if Terhune were
| blindly doing anything, he'd 'a' fallen into an earthquake by now!
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| ...
| To warn people of the possible pitfalls of just blinding
subscribing to
| the
| "I need to get an update!" mantra.
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| So, your purpose in participating in this thread is......?
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
|
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| ...
| I'm computer savvy enough to know I'm done with those updates.
(YMMV).
| I've learned my lessons the hard way. That's my story, and I'm
| stickin
| to it - well, at least for the most part, anyway!
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| I didn't mean that to sound as harsh as it looks. I fully
understand
| why
| people can't or don't want to repro the issue and/or waste more
time
| on
| the problem, particularly those who aren't familiar with the
joys of
| deliberately hacking their own systems, eg. Only, it would
certainly
| help if those who have experienced the problem could give more
| feedback
| to the people who are now in charge of fixing it. Particularly
those
| folks who are especially computer savvy.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "glee" wrote in message
| ...
| Unfortunately, the machines I saw the problems on were at work,
the
| update was removed right away, and I can't put it back on to
test, as
| it
| is a work computer and I cannot "test" on those.
|
| I have not been able to repro the problem on another machine
| yet....maybe
| this weekend I can try on some old machines here at home.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| Just read the Win98.Gen_Discussion group, or the
WindowsME.General
| group, and you'll see several examples of KB891711 causing
BSODs.
| Believe me, there *is* a problem, and MS *is* working on a
solution.
| The
| biggest problem we have, now, is most people who are having
trouble
| with
| KB891711 don't seem to be willing to perform some rather
simple
| tests
| and return the results.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| snipped for some brevity
|
|


  #94  
Old March 25th 05, 11:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,alt.windows98
PCR
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Posts: 4,396
Default What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?

OK! OK! OOOKKK!!!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| Again, according to at least one person who's tried this latest
number,
| the right hand still doesn't know what the left hand is doing at MS.
An
| honest to God SNAFU. Unless you are stout of heart, I now recommend
| holding off on those calls until I get *real* assurances.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
|
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
| ...
....snip


  #95  
Old March 26th 05, 03:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,alt.windows98
Gary S. Terhune
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,846
Default What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?

The latest from MS:

"Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows
98,
Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to
confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution.

"Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will
return to a vulnerable state. At this point, we are currently not aware
of customer's being exploited by way of the vulnerability fixed in
MS05-002 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. If you need
additional assistance regarding this update, please contact +1 (866)
PCSAFETY."

I'm now assured, and fairly confident, that anyone who answers that
number will be up to speed on the issue.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Again, according to at least one person who's tried this latest

number,
the right hand still doesn't know what the left hand is doing at MS.

An
honest to God SNAFU. Unless you are stout of heart, I now recommend
holding off on those calls until I get *real* assurances.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
I've received a request from the team that's working on the
KB891711 issue. They would like everyone in the USA who has had

problems
with KB891711 to call 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). If you can

help
them with some info, they say they're close to reproducing the
problem--first step toward solving it. I have asked for, though not

yet
received, assurances that callers will be taken more seriously than

has
been reported thus far.

(According to at least a couple of people, when they called PSS they
were told that KB891711 wasn't a critical problem on Win98 and to

just
uninstall it. KB891711 deals with a very *serious* vulnerability,
affecting pretty much all Windows systems, and anyone who can't get
patched decently should don at *least* a dozen condoms before

journeying
out onto the internet.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm


--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"98 Guy" wrote in message

...

If you don't know what I'm talking about, look he

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS05-002.mspx

If you're running Win 98, and have recently (within the past week)
gone to Windows Updates and updated your computer, you almost
certainly now have the file "KB891711.EXE" running in the

background.
It is set to run automatically at startup. First time any such

update
or security patch has been configured to operate (instead of

simply
replacing an existing file).

Even though Micro$loth sez that MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) is

critical
for Win-98, I've read where some (many) people are simply

deactivating
it (via msconfig).

Does anyone really know the truth regarding Win-98 and

KB891711.EXE?

Is there anything special about it (like running it in safe mode

to
properly install it) ?

Is it really needed? (for win-98) ?

Is Win-98 really vulnerable to MS05-002 ???





  #96  
Old March 26th 05, 08:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,alt.windows98
PCR
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 4,396
Default What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?

Huh? Well, OK, then!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| The latest from MS:
|
| "Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows
| 98,
| Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to
| confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution.
|
| "Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will
| return to a vulnerable state. At this point, we are currently not
aware
| of customer's being exploited by way of the vulnerability fixed in
| MS05-002 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. If you need
| additional assistance regarding this update, please contact +1 (866)
| PCSAFETY."
|
| I'm now assured, and fairly confident, that anyone who answers that
| number will be up to speed on the issue.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
|
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| Again, according to at least one person who's tried this latest
| number,
| the right hand still doesn't know what the left hand is doing at MS.
| An
| honest to God SNAFU. Unless you are stout of heart, I now recommend
| holding off on those calls until I get *real* assurances.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in
message
| ...
| I've received a request from the team that's working on the
| KB891711 issue. They would like everyone in the USA who has had
| problems
| with KB891711 to call 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). If you can
| help
| them with some info, they say they're close to reproducing the
| problem--first step toward solving it. I have asked for, though
not
| yet
| received, assurances that callers will be taken more seriously
than
| has
| been reported thus far.
|
| (According to at least a couple of people, when they called PSS
they
| were told that KB891711 wasn't a critical problem on Win98 and to
| just
| uninstall it. KB891711 deals with a very *serious* vulnerability,
| affecting pretty much all Windows systems, and anyone who can't
get
| patched decently should don at *least* a dozen condoms before
| journeying
| out onto the internet.)
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
|
| --
| Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
| Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
|
| http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
| In Memorium: Alex Nichol
|
| http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
| Your cooperation is very appreciated.
| ------
| "98 Guy" wrote in message
| ...
|
| If you don't know what I'm talking about, look he
|
| http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS05-002.mspx
|
| If you're running Win 98, and have recently (within the past
week)
| gone to Windows Updates and updated your computer, you almost
| certainly now have the file "KB891711.EXE" running in the
| background.
| It is set to run automatically at startup. First time any such
| update
| or security patch has been configured to operate (instead of
| simply
| replacing an existing file).
|
| Even though Micro$loth sez that MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) is
| critical
| for Win-98, I've read where some (many) people are simply
| deactivating
| it (via msconfig).
|
| Does anyone really know the truth regarding Win-98 and
| KB891711.EXE?
|
| Is there anything special about it (like running it in safe mode
| to
| properly install it) ?
|
| Is it really needed? (for win-98) ?
|
| Is Win-98 really vulnerable to MS05-002 ???
|
|
|
|


  #97  
Old March 28th 05, 05:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update,alt.windows98
lb
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 88
Default What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?

I too have been told that there is a problem with this update as I have
posted earlier. So why is this update still listed as a critical
update at the Windows update site? Some people have their machines
automatically updated. If this update is giving so many people
problems, MS should have maybe pulled it or at least given precautions.

  #98  
Old April 9th 05, 03:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance,microsoft.public.win98.internet.windows_update
Leonard F Kiesling
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?

have problem since update of kb891711. win 98se, ie 6.0, high speed cable
modem, dell desktop xpst-450, norton av 2002. i have found the sequence of
events i performed to cause blue screen 06 error:
open windows media player 7.1; play songs from media guide; close media
player. open ie; error screen occurs. or open ie; open media player; close
ie; re-open ie; error occurs.

if i do NOT open media player, all seems ok. open & close ie as needed; no
errors. shut down normal.

when error screen comes on, i press any key once to return to windows, & it
does. then i alt-ctl-del & end task kb981711. i can go on ie with no
problem. re-start is best fix. i just don't use the media player.

does this info help?

i hope microsoft sends auto update to fix. any ideas when?

thank you, len kiesling

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Just read the Win98.Gen_Discussion group, or the WindowsME.General
group, and you'll see several examples of KB891711 causing BSODs.
Believe me, there *is* a problem, and MS *is* working on a solution. The
biggest problem we have, now, is most people who are having trouble with
KB891711 don't seem to be willing to perform some rather simple tests
and return the results.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
...
Well, we live in an era of 'instant PC Experts'

the typical'my brother in law-sez, ......., and the secretary at

work.....

roof is needed not rumors.

I've had the update for 4 days and nothing has raised an ugly head

yet.

"Dan" wrote in message
...
It is just what people are saying. I don't have any proof.

"SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
...
: Any particular boards?
:
: Is this well founded and some one has absolute proof, or just some

one
: saying it must be ...?
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Read the discussion boards and you will see that it is causing

havoc
with
: some user's machines and associated software and/or hardware.

For
some
of
: the users baddies are definately involved but definately not

with all
the
: users.
:
: "SFB - KB3MM" wrote in message
: ...
: : Whata's the downside of this update?
: :
: : "Ivan Bútora" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Dan, please. ANY update is optional. It is up to me if I

want to
: install
: : it on my machine or not. Yes, I think it's good to install

these
updates
: in
: : general, and I have installed all of them except KB891711. But

on
the
: other
: : hand, there are upsides and downsides. In the case of

KB891711, the
: : inconvenience and trouble that is likely to be caused by this

patch
is
: far
: : greater than the risk of a hacker exploiting your machine.

Keep in
mind
: that
: : there have been several updates this year considered

"important" for
: Windows
: : 98 that have not been released publicly. As Gary Terhune

pointed
out,
: the
: : difference between "important" and "critical" is actually not

so
: significant
: : in terms of the security threat. So yeah, your machine

probably *is*
: : vulnerable to something. But that's life, you can't be 100%

secure
all
: the
: : time. I don't see the point in making such a big fuss about

not
having
: this
: : one patch installed.
: :
: : And FYI, since September 2004, my computer has been running

WITHOUT
: : anti-virus protection, anti-spyware, etc. So yesterday I

decided I
would
: run
: : a SpyBot check just for the hell of it, and guess what -

nothing
found
: other
: : than a couple of IE cookies. My point: The most important

thing is
being
: : aware of what you're doing with your computer and on the

Internet.
: :
: : Frankly, I don't know what your letter to Bill Gates was,

but what
I
: do
: : know is that MS should be ashamed for releasing a patch in

this
manner,
: : without informing the users of the potential caveats, and

apparently
: without
: : testing in dial-up systems, etc.
: :
: :
: :
: : "Dan" wrote in message
: : ...
: : According to PC Today, April issue it is a critical update

that
has
: as
: : of now
: : not been exploited by hackers. Guys and Gals you need

this
critical
: : update
: : because I am guessing within 3 weeks someone will find a

way to
: : compromise
: : all 98SE and associated 9x machines that need the patch

and have
not
: : been
: : updated. My best guess is that the time for the hackers

will be
a
: : maximum of
: : 3 weeks and it may be even faster so if your machine is

connected
to
: the
: : Internet do whatever it takes to keep "KB891711.EXE"

running
because
: I
: : am
: : sure down the line Microsoft will be able to do a better

fix but
: this
: is
: : a
: : temporary solution, hopefully to allow users to be safe

while
: on-line.
: : If
: : programs are not responding then discover why. People you

need
this
: : CRITICAL
: : PATCH and it is not optional. If Windows will not run

with the
: patch
: : because
: : of BSOD then disconnect from the Internet -- remove

Ethernet
cable,
: USB
: : cable
: : or phone cable until the problem is resolved because if

you do
not
: do
: : this
: : and have exited this CRITICAL PATCH then you are just

asking for
: your
: : system
: : to be hacked and no it will not be by me or my friends

although
I
: know
: a
: : lot
: : about security on computers and weak access points and

could
: probably
: do
: : it
: : without too much trouble if I wanted to but my heart is

with
keeping
: the
: : U.S.A and its Allies and businesses and finally consumers

to try
and
: get
: : one
: : small leg up on the PEOPLE who hack machines for a hobby,

the
: : terriorists and
: : finally the script kiddies. Let me know how I and others

can
help
: you
: : with
: : your computer problems. Have a nice day!
: :
: : "98 Guy" wrote in message
: ...
: : :
: : : If you don't know what I'm talking about, look he
: : :
: : :

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS05-002.mspx
: : :
: : : If you're running Win 98, and have recently (within the

past
week)
: : : gone to Windows Updates and updated your computer, you

almost
: : : certainly now have the file "KB891711.EXE" running in

the
: background.
: : : It is set to run automatically at startup. First time

any
such
: update
: : : or security patch has been configured to operate

(instead of
: simply
: : : replacing an existing file).
: : :
: : : Even though Micro$loth sez that MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE)

is
: critical
: : : for Win-98, I've read where some (many) people are

simply
: deactivating
: : : it (via msconfig).
: : :
: : : Does anyone really know the truth regarding Win-98 and
: KB891711.EXE?
: : :
: : : Is there anything special about it (like running it in

safe
mode
: to
: : : properly install it) ?
: : :
: : : Is it really needed? (for win-98) ?
: : :
: : : Is Win-98 really vulnerable to MS05-002 ???
: :
: :
: :
:
:
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