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Old November 3rd 04, 08:43 PM
RoseIsHLC
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Default Strange Startup - Win 98 SE

Good afternoon!

After an OS reinstall (done by someone else) booting up is really
irritating. I get the Compaq screen followed by a black screen with a
blinkink cursor, the windows loading screen, another black screen with a
blinking cursor, then the windows desktop background, THEN the icons appear
and it finally finishes booting.

I update and run regularly: Spybot S&D, Spyware Blaster, AdAware6, HJT,
CWShredder, CleanUP, and Avast AV.

I have pared down my start up programs through MSCONFIG, and it made no
difference to the weird and slow startup.

Also, before the major crash... my TS files were wiped out. I understand
that MS caused this through a security patch, so I searched in the MS KB and
it directed (through a link) to a DL file fix. I DL'ed in, but it was
exactly the same. No files.

Thank you very much in advance for any possible fixes!

~Rose )
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Old November 4th 04, 05:02 AM
glee
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Do a logged boot, and then download and run BootLog Analyser.
Set BootLog Analyser to show delays and failures, and post back with that report,
along with the last few lines of the bootlog.

BootLog Analyser (BLA)
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/

To do a logged boot, start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows
98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.
Use the arrow keys to select "Logged [/bootlog.txt]" and press Enter.


For the troubleshooters problem, there are two different fixes (actually one fix and
one workaround), depending on the Windows updates you have installed.

The original fix for the older update was this:
First, click Start Settings Folder Options View tab, and click to enable "Show
All Files" and click OK.
Click Start Find File or Folders, and search the C:\ drive for a file named
Tshoot.inf...it should be found in the \Windows\Inf folder.
Right-click Tshoot.inf and click Install on the menu that appears.

If the latest cumulative patch for Internet Explorer is installed, there is only a
workaround.
See he
http://home.comcast.net/~bascon58/98Help.htm
and
http://mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/SoftFixes.htm
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"RoseIsHLC" wrote in message
news
Good afternoon!

After an OS reinstall (done by someone else) booting up is really
irritating. I get the Compaq screen followed by a black screen with a
blinkink cursor, the windows loading screen, another black screen with a
blinking cursor, then the windows desktop background, THEN the icons appear
and it finally finishes booting.

I update and run regularly: Spybot S&D, Spyware Blaster, AdAware6, HJT,
CWShredder, CleanUP, and Avast AV.

I have pared down my start up programs through MSCONFIG, and it made no
difference to the weird and slow startup.

Also, before the major crash... my TS files were wiped out. I understand
that MS caused this through a security patch, so I searched in the MS KB and
it directed (through a link) to a DL file fix. I DL'ed in, but it was
exactly the same. No files.

Thank you very much in advance for any possible fixes!

~Rose )


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Old November 4th 04, 05:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Default Strange Startup - Win 98 SE

Do a logged boot, and then download and run BootLog Analyser.
Set BootLog Analyser to show delays and failures, and post back with that report,
along with the last few lines of the bootlog.

BootLog Analyser (BLA)
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/

To do a logged boot, start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows
98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.
Use the arrow keys to select "Logged [/bootlog.txt]" and press Enter.


For the troubleshooters problem, there are two different fixes (actually one fix and
one workaround), depending on the Windows updates you have installed.

The original fix for the older update was this:
First, click Start Settings Folder Options View tab, and click to enable "Show
All Files" and click OK.
Click Start Find File or Folders, and search the C:\ drive for a file named
Tshoot.inf...it should be found in the \Windows\Inf folder.
Right-click Tshoot.inf and click Install on the menu that appears.

If the latest cumulative patch for Internet Explorer is installed, there is only a
workaround.
See he
http://home.comcast.net/~bascon58/98Help.htm
and
http://mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/SoftFixes.htm
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"RoseIsHLC" wrote in message
news
Good afternoon!

After an OS reinstall (done by someone else) booting up is really
irritating. I get the Compaq screen followed by a black screen with a
blinkink cursor, the windows loading screen, another black screen with a
blinking cursor, then the windows desktop background, THEN the icons appear
and it finally finishes booting.

I update and run regularly: Spybot S&D, Spyware Blaster, AdAware6, HJT,
CWShredder, CleanUP, and Avast AV.

I have pared down my start up programs through MSCONFIG, and it made no
difference to the weird and slow startup.

Also, before the major crash... my TS files were wiped out. I understand
that MS caused this through a security patch, so I searched in the MS KB and
it directed (through a link) to a DL file fix. I DL'ed in, but it was
exactly the same. No files.

Thank you very much in advance for any possible fixes!

~Rose )


  #4  
Old November 4th 04, 04:24 PM
RoseIsHLC
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"glee" wrote:

Do a logged boot, and then download and run BootLog Analyser.
Set BootLog Analyser to show delays and failures, and post back with that report,
along with the last few lines of the bootlog.

BootLog Analyser (BLA)
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/

To do a logged boot, start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows
98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.
Use the arrow keys to select "Logged [/bootlog.txt]" and press Enter.



Hi Glee, and thank you for responding... )

I clicked the link for BLA, but it didn't work so I Googled, found and DL'ed
it. As to booting up holding the Control Key... tried that 3 times and it
just plain wouldn't do it. So, I booted up using F8, chose option 2, tried
3 times and it kept wanting me to go into Safe Mode. However, after all that,
I was able to find the bootlog.txt file (dated today) throug Find F&F. Ran
BLA but wasn't able to 'save' the log... tried to 3 times also. So, the only
other thing I could think of to do in reply to your request was copy and
paste the bootlog.txt in F&F here. (IF you say so.... It's as long as my
arm!!) The log that appears in BLA is much shorter, but as I said there
aren't any options to save the log as a whole. Hmmmm. What am I (or
whatever else it could be) doing wrong? I will go back now and attempt your
suggestions on the TS prob, and will check back here when I am finished with
that, to look for your response as to if you think I should post this mile
long bootlog.txt. to troubleshoot it.

Thank you once again, Glee... I SO appreciate your help!!

~Rose
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Old November 4th 04, 04:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
RoseIsHLC
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Default Strange Startup - Win 98 SE



"glee" wrote:

Do a logged boot, and then download and run BootLog Analyser.
Set BootLog Analyser to show delays and failures, and post back with that report,
along with the last few lines of the bootlog.

BootLog Analyser (BLA)
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/

To do a logged boot, start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows
98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.
Use the arrow keys to select "Logged [/bootlog.txt]" and press Enter.



Hi Glee, and thank you for responding... )

I clicked the link for BLA, but it didn't work so I Googled, found and DL'ed
it. As to booting up holding the Control Key... tried that 3 times and it
just plain wouldn't do it. So, I booted up using F8, chose option 2, tried
3 times and it kept wanting me to go into Safe Mode. However, after all that,
I was able to find the bootlog.txt file (dated today) throug Find F&F. Ran
BLA but wasn't able to 'save' the log... tried to 3 times also. So, the only
other thing I could think of to do in reply to your request was copy and
paste the bootlog.txt in F&F here. (IF you say so.... It's as long as my
arm!!) The log that appears in BLA is much shorter, but as I said there
aren't any options to save the log as a whole. Hmmmm. What am I (or
whatever else it could be) doing wrong? I will go back now and attempt your
suggestions on the TS prob, and will check back here when I am finished with
that, to look for your response as to if you think I should post this mile
long bootlog.txt. to troubleshoot it.

Thank you once again, Glee... I SO appreciate your help!!

~Rose
  #6  
Old November 4th 04, 04:44 PM
RoseIsHLC
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BootLog Analyser (BLA)
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/


The link that did work for me (Googled...lol) was:
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/pk29/



For the troubleshooters problem, there are two different fixes (actually one fix and
one workaround), depending on the Windows updates you have installed.


Fantastic, Glee, Thank You!! I used the TS workaround (the DL executable)
and I've got TS back! Woo Hoo!

I'll check back at various times throughout the day to see if you've had a
chance to reply to the BLA issue I reply posted earlier.

Have a great day, and thanks again for your assistance!

~Rose
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Old November 4th 04, 04:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
RoseIsHLC
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Default Strange Startup - Win 98 SE





BootLog Analyser (BLA)
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/


The link that did work for me (Googled...lol) was:
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/pk29/



For the troubleshooters problem, there are two different fixes (actually one fix and
one workaround), depending on the Windows updates you have installed.


Fantastic, Glee, Thank You!! I used the TS workaround (the DL executable)
and I've got TS back! Woo Hoo!

I'll check back at various times throughout the day to see if you've had a
chance to reply to the BLA issue I reply posted earlier.

Have a great day, and thanks again for your assistance!

~Rose
  #8  
Old November 4th 04, 08:47 PM
glee
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"RoseIsHLC" wrote in message
...


"glee" wrote:

Do a logged boot, and then download and run BootLog Analyser.
Set BootLog Analyser to show delays and failures, and post back with that

report,
along with the last few lines of the bootlog.

BootLog Analyser (BLA)
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/

To do a logged boot, start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the

Windows
98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.
Use the arrow keys to select "Logged [/bootlog.txt]" and press Enter.



Hi Glee, and thank you for responding... )

I clicked the link for BLA, but it didn't work so I Googled, found and DL'ed
it. As to booting up holding the Control Key... tried that 3 times and it
just plain wouldn't do it. So, I booted up using F8, chose option 2, tried
3 times and it kept wanting me to go into Safe Mode. However, after all that,
I was able to find the bootlog.txt file (dated today) throug Find F&F. Ran
BLA but wasn't able to 'save' the log... tried to 3 times also. So, the only
other thing I could think of to do in reply to your request was copy and
paste the bootlog.txt in F&F here. (IF you say so.... It's as long as my
arm!!) The log that appears in BLA is much shorter, but as I said there
aren't any options to save the log as a whole. Hmmmm. What am I (or
whatever else it could be) doing wrong? I will go back now and attempt your
suggestions on the TS prob, and will check back here when I am finished with
that, to look for your response as to if you think I should post this mile
long bootlog.txt. to troubleshoot it.

Thank you once again, Glee... I SO appreciate your help!!


Oops! dead link....thanks for posting the good link in your other reply!
Do a logged boot, then in Windows, start BLA, check the Sow Delays and Show Failures
boxes, then click the File menu Save As. Give the report any name you like, save
the report as a text file on your desktop, then open it, copy and paste the contents
into a reply here.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


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Old November 4th 04, 08:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Default Strange Startup - Win 98 SE

"RoseIsHLC" wrote in message
...


"glee" wrote:

Do a logged boot, and then download and run BootLog Analyser.
Set BootLog Analyser to show delays and failures, and post back with that

report,
along with the last few lines of the bootlog.

BootLog Analyser (BLA)
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/

To do a logged boot, start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the

Windows
98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.
Use the arrow keys to select "Logged [/bootlog.txt]" and press Enter.



Hi Glee, and thank you for responding... )

I clicked the link for BLA, but it didn't work so I Googled, found and DL'ed
it. As to booting up holding the Control Key... tried that 3 times and it
just plain wouldn't do it. So, I booted up using F8, chose option 2, tried
3 times and it kept wanting me to go into Safe Mode. However, after all that,
I was able to find the bootlog.txt file (dated today) throug Find F&F. Ran
BLA but wasn't able to 'save' the log... tried to 3 times also. So, the only
other thing I could think of to do in reply to your request was copy and
paste the bootlog.txt in F&F here. (IF you say so.... It's as long as my
arm!!) The log that appears in BLA is much shorter, but as I said there
aren't any options to save the log as a whole. Hmmmm. What am I (or
whatever else it could be) doing wrong? I will go back now and attempt your
suggestions on the TS prob, and will check back here when I am finished with
that, to look for your response as to if you think I should post this mile
long bootlog.txt. to troubleshoot it.

Thank you once again, Glee... I SO appreciate your help!!


Oops! dead link....thanks for posting the good link in your other reply!
Do a logged boot, then in Windows, start BLA, check the Sow Delays and Show Failures
boxes, then click the File menu Save As. Give the report any name you like, save
the report as a text file on your desktop, then open it, copy and paste the contents
into a reply here.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


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Old November 4th 04, 09:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
RoseIsHLC
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Default Strange Startup - Win 98 SE

No problem...)

Okay... finally able to copy and paste a BLA log. (Couldn't get it to
Desktop though... had to put it into Documents):

9:50:45 7.00 LoadSuccess = C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
9:50:52 0.00 LoadFailed = ndis2sup.vxd
9:50:56 0.33 Enumerating USB Root Hub
(USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI&VEN_8086&DEV_2412&SUBSYS_2412808 6&REV_02&BUS_00&DEV_1F&FUNC_02)
9:50:56 0.50 Starting General purpose USB Hub
(USB\VID_0451&PID_1446\INST_0)
9:50:57 0.89 Enumerating General purpose USB Hub
(USB\VID_0451&PID_1446\INST_0)
9:51:00 0.00 DEVICEINITFAILED = VPD
9:51:00 2.11 Started Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast Ethernet Adapter
(PCI\VEN_1317&DEV_0985&SUBSYS_05741317&REV_11\48F0 00)
9:51:03 5.06 Starting TCP/IP (NETWORK\MSTCP\0001)
9:51:08 0.28 Initing esdi_506.pdr
9:51:08 1.33 Initing esdi_506.pdr
9:51:10 1.78 Initing drvwq117.vxd
9:51:12 0.00 INITCOMPLETEFAILED = SDVXD
9:51:12 0.39 Starting SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
(PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2415&SUBSYS_B19F0E11&REV_02\BUS_ 00&DEV_1F&FUNC_05)
9:51:13 7.39 InitDone = TSRQuery (time estimated)
9:51:21 0.39 Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk Controller
(ACPI\*PNP0700\00000001)
9:51:21 4.94 Enumerating TapeDetection
(TAPECONTROLLER\TAPEDETECTION\0000)
9:51:26 5.17 Enumerated TapeDetection (TAPECONTROLLER\TAPEDETECTION\0000)
9:51:31 22.78 Enumerated Microsoft Kernel Audio Mixer
(SW\{B7EAFDC0-A680-11D0-96D8-00AA0051E51D}\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020AFD15
9:51:54 59.56 Enumerated Microsoft Kernel System Renderer
(SW\{A7C7A5B0-5AF3-11D1-9CED-00A024BF0407}\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020A
9:52:54 82.22 Enumerated Microsoft Kernel Audio Mixer
(SW\{B7EAFDC0-A680-11D0-96D8-00AA0051E51D}\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020AFD15
9:54:16 74.89 Enumerated Microsoft Kernel System Renderer
(SW\{A7C7A5B0-5AF3-11D1-9CED-00A024BF0407}\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020A
9:55:31 237.89 Enumerated Microsoft Kernel Audio Mixer
(SW\{B7EAFDC0-A680-11D0-96D8-00AA0051E51D}\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020AFD15
9:59:29 395.83 Enumerated Microsoft Kernel System Renderer
(SW\{A7C7A5B0-5AF3-11D1-9CED-00A024BF0407}\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020A
10:06:05 613.44 Enumerated Microsoft Kernel Audio Mixer
(SW\{B7EAFDC0-A680-11D0-96D8-00AA0051E51D}\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020AFD15
10:16:19 1079.50 Enumerated Microsoft Kernel System Renderer
(SW\{A7C7A5B0-5AF3-11D1-9CED-00A024BF0407}\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020A
10:34:18 629.83 Enumerated Microsoft Kernel Audio Mixer
(SW\{B7EAFDC0-A680-11D0-96D8-00AA0051E51D}\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020AFD15
10:44:48 2216.94 Enumerated Microsoft Kernel System Renderer
(SW\{A7C7A5B0-5AF3-11D1-9CED-00A024BF0407}\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020A

Now, as to your requesting 'the last few lines of the bootlog.txt' also be
copied and pasted here... Which might 'the last few' mean, specifically?
There seems to be kind of 'sections' of info in the log. (Wow.. if I had to
print this thing out I'd need scrolling paper and a winder...lol)

Thank you again, Glee!

~Rose


 




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