How to save 'special' google home page images?

Robert Macy wrote in news:89a45af6-2b16-4193-b272-
:

Today, google presented Mark Twain's 178th birthday, but for some
reason there was no way to save the fixed image. Right click ALWAYS
produced an incorrect .html which is the link, not the image.

One standard way to stop casual saving is to set an image as background, so
look in the source for STYLE="background:... with some included URL. This may
be in the main BODY section but it can be in any HTML element. If the
browser lets you right click to save a background image, try it, it might be
all you need for some still images.

Lostgallifreyan wrote:

Robert Macy wrote in news:89a45af6-2b16-4193-b272-
:

Today, google presented Mark Twain's 178th birthday, but for some
reason there was no way to save the fixed image. Right click ALWAYS
produced an incorrect .html which is the link, not the image.

One standard way to stop casual saving is to set an image as background, so
look in the source for STYLE="background:... with some included URL. This may
be in the main BODY section but it can be in any HTML element. If the
browser lets you right click to save a background image, try it, it might be
all you need for some still images.

If it's being done through a stylesheet, you need to be aware that the
stylesheet may not be in the HTML file. It would be referenced in a
META ... tag near the top of the HTML. The tag contains a URL that
you can put into your browser's address line. Find the referenced
style in there, and you'll find the URL of the image.

--
Tim Slattery

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

Tim Slattery wrote in
:

If it's being done through a stylesheet, you need to be aware that the
stylesheet may not be in the HTML file. It would be referenced in a
META ... tag near the top of the HTML. The tag contains a URL that
you can put into your browser's address line. Find the referenced
style in there, and you'll find the URL of the image.


Good point. Three ways usually exist, inline, in page, and in separate file.
A look at the meta stuff at the top of the main page will usually reveal
which.

One easy way to be sure to fetch ALL possibilites is to save the page as HTML
and images (not as single archive file). Look for *.css, if it's not there,
it's either in the main HTML file, or a framed sub-file.

Actually, saving the page as HTML and images beats the cached method I
described before! I'm not the only person here who didn't think of that
either... Ò^O (It might not solve the original problem actually, if it ends
up saving just one image of a JavaScripted slideshow).

On Nov 30, 7:17*pm, Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/30/2011 19:56, Robert Macy wrote:

On Nov 30, 5:38 am, *wrote:
More... There are standalone Flash players from Adobe. They're not always
easy to find, they're usually buried in the developers' part of the site. Try
to get one if you haven't already, they let you play saved Flash games, and
it seems that interactive Google doodles will use the same methods.

Today, google presented Mark Twain's 178th birthday, but for some
reason there was no way to save the fixed image. Right click ALWAYS
produced an incorrect .html *which is the link, not the image. *I
saved using alt-print screen, but the original would have 'matching'
resolution.

Any idea on that one?

What about this:http://www.google.com/logos/2011/twain11-hp-bg.jpg

from the html source code.

Now that's just embarrassing! Thanks, got it.

On Dec 1, 6:57*am, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Tim Slattery wrote :

If it's being done through a stylesheet, you need to be aware that the
stylesheet may not be in the HTML file. It would be referenced in a
META ... tag near the top of the HTML. The tag contains a URL that
you can put into your browser's address line. Find the referenced
style in there, and you'll find the URL of the image.

Good point. Three ways usually exist, inline, in page, and in separate file.
A look at the meta stuff at the top of the main page will usually reveal
which.

One easy way to be sure to fetch ALL possibilites is to save the page as HTML
and images (not as single archive file). Look for *.css, if it's not there,
it's either in the main HTML file, or a framed sub-file.

Actually, saving the page as HTML and images beats the cached method I
described before! I'm not the only person here who didn't think of that
either... ^O (It might not solve the original problem actually, if it ends
up saving just one image of a JavaScripted slideshow).

Will do! Opera seems to obscure the cache I was used to with MS, but
saving as html, then culling through that should isolate everything
somewhere.

Robert Macy wrote in news:6a77c55f-793b-4fcf-beb2-
:

Opera seems to obscure the cache I was used to with MS, but
saving as html, then culling through that should isolate everything
somewhere.


Ok, it's easier to save page, but I use O[pera too, so the extra method will
work for you if the save=page trick won't catch all the images in the
slideshow or animation sequence.

I haven't looked at Google's methods much but it seems they use several if
thet extend to interactive doodles, so I will look into it. I use the
advanced page as root for searches though, which doesn't get it so if you're
after something specific, give a shout early in the day. You may have all the
info you need now though, just need chances to practise some of it. (As do
I..)

On 12/1/2011 09:29, Robert Macy wrote:
On Nov 30, 7:17 pm, Bill wrote:
On 11/30/2011 19:56, Robert Macy wrote:

Today, google presented Mark Twain's 178th birthday, but for some
reason there was no way to save the fixed image. Right click ALWAYS
produced an incorrect .html which is the link, not the image. I
saved using alt-print screen, but the original would have 'matching'
resolution.

Any idea on that one?

What about this:http://www.google.com/logos/2011/twain11-hp-bg.jpg

from the html source code.

Now that's just embarrassing! Thanks, got it.

NP.
The best google logo was the Les Paul guitar.

http://www.google.com/logos/2011/lespaul.html

Not sure though if you can play the guitar with your mouseovers on old
('98 compat) version browsers.

Bill Blanton wrote in
g.com:

On 12/1/2011 09:29, Robert Macy wrote:
On Nov 30, 7:17 pm, Bill wrote:
On 11/30/2011 19:56, Robert Macy wrote:

Today, google presented Mark Twain's 178th birthday, but for some
reason there was no way to save the fixed image. Right click ALWAYS
produced an incorrect .html which is the link, not the image. I
saved using alt-print screen, but the original would have 'matching'
resolution.

Any idea on that one?

What about this:http://www.google.com/logos/2011/twain11-hp-bg.jpg

from the html source code.

Now that's just embarrassing! Thanks, got it.

NP.
The best google logo was the Les Paul guitar.

http://www.google.com/logos/2011/lespaul.html

Not sure though if you can play the guitar with your mouseovers on old
('98 compat) version browsers.


It works. It's a program. JavaScript, using a bitmap (actually in PNG format)
and drawing commands in combination to render the moving graphic on a fixed
background assembled from parts of the bitmap. Very elaborate. On my system
(OperaUSB v10.63 on W98 SE) it saves fine as single web page archive, and as
HTML with a directory that contains only the PNG file.

So JavaScript must be enabled, but there may be another way. The page source
shows several rferences to Flash v6. I didn't follow this up but it may be a
method to show the same program in systems where JavaScript isn't available,
but Flash is.

One small difference I saw was no sound from the saved copies, but that might
be due to the original still being open and commanding the audio channel that
the copies tried to use.

On 12/1/2011 22:32, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Bill wrote in
g.com:

On 12/1/2011 09:29, Robert Macy wrote:
On Nov 30, 7:17 pm, Bill wrote:
On 11/30/2011 19:56, Robert Macy wrote:

Today, google presented Mark Twain's 178th birthday, but for some
reason there was no way to save the fixed image. Right click ALWAYS
produced an incorrect .html which is the link, not the image. I
saved using alt-print screen, but the original would have 'matching'
resolution.

Any idea on that one?

What about this:http://www.google.com/logos/2011/twain11-hp-bg.jpg

from the html source code.

Now that's just embarrassing! Thanks, got it.

NP.
The best google logo was the Les Paul guitar.

http://www.google.com/logos/2011/lespaul.html

Not sure though if you can play the guitar with your mouseovers on old
('98 compat) version browsers.


It works. It's a program. JavaScript, using a bitmap (actually in PNG format)
and drawing commands in combination to render the moving graphic on a fixed
background assembled from parts of the bitmap.

Yea,, saw that too.

Very elaborate. On my system
(OperaUSB v10.63 on W98 SE) it saves fine as single web page archive, and as
HTML with a directory that contains only the PNG file.

So JavaScript must be enabled, but there may be another way. The page source
shows several rferences to Flash v6. I didn't follow this up but it may be a
method to show the same program in systems where JavaScript isn't available,
but Flash is.


Now that you point it out .. if you follow:
http://www.google.com/logos/swf/guitar11.swf
you get redirected to
http://static.googleusercontent.com/...f/guitar11.swf



One small difference I saw was no sound from the saved copies, but that might
be due to the original still being open and commanding the audio channel that
the copies tried to use.

Can't save it with any audio capability here either.

No need to save it though.. it'll probably live on forever in the google
archive. Along with everything else that google archives.

Bill Blanton wrote in
g.com:

Now that you point it out .. if you follow:
http://www.google.com/logos/swf/guitar11.swf
you get redirected to
http://static.googleusercontent.com/...ted_dlcp/www.g
oogle.com/en/us/logos/swf/guitar11.swf


I just get a blue empty-looking page.



One small difference I saw was no sound from the saved copies, but that
might be due to the original still being open and commanding the audio
channel that the copies tried to use.

Can't save it with any audio capability here either.


Before I switched on the computer just now I had the thought that there might
be a need for Flash to make the sound. It had to come from somewhere, and it
sounds like a PCM sample, and clearly can't be in the PNG or the HTML without
being so big it would be hard to hide them there in any format. I didn't know
that JavaScript had so many detailed drawing commands (perhaps enough to
rival Flash when used in combination with CSS), but I bet it still can't
command an audio port on its own, OR with CSS, but Flash can, and it might
explain the empty-looking page, if the Flash content is meant to be heard,
not seen.

No need to save it though.. it'll probably live on forever in the google
archive. Along with everything else that google archives.


Even Google isn't forever. Well, I wouldn't want to trust to it being so
anyway.


I'm still wondering why they didn't make it all in a single Flash file. Two
main reasons exist, they wanted to hide it, make it hard for people to grab
it and propagate it or keep it, OR, they like to showcase the skill of some
of their programmers.