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Old November 28th 11, 05:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default How to save 'special' google home page images?

Robert Macy wrote in news:1461377f-b6bb-4fb7-9234-
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On Nov 23, 6:24*pm, philo wrote:
On 11/23/2011 07:06 PM, Lostgallifreyan wrote:

Robert *wrote in news:447b9234-6500-465

1-8119-
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Today, googlX


snip
n that untrue, but forcing a reload to check the image

still animates is enough to be sure.


Of course the animation will not be there as the OP requested

here is the actual way to do it

http://www.readersstuffz.com/how-to-...ge-animation-f...

This URL came up with "Reader Account Suspended"

Was the information too good? Was there malware embedded?

Better yet. What did it say to do?


I think the site owner forgot a bill, or got more bandwidth use in a month
than their contract is paid for.

If you enter this in Google:
save google logos site:readersstuffz.com
....you can see the cache of the page. The images are JPEG's not GIF's so it
involves cache trawling, and probably JavaScript code to make a slideshow to
animate the recovered images.
  #12  
Old November 29th 11, 02:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How to save 'special' google home page images?

On Nov 28, 10:37*am, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Robert Macy wrote in news:1461377f-b6bb-4fb7-9234-
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On Nov 23, 6:24*pm, philo wrote:
On 11/23/2011 07:06 PM, Lostgallifreyan wrote:


Robert *wrote in news:447b9234-6500-465

1-8119-
:


Today, googlX


snip
n that untrue, but forcing a reload to check the image


still animates is enough to be sure.


Of course the animation will not be there as the OP requested


here is the actual way to do it


http://www.readersstuffz.com/how-to-...ge-animation-f....


This URL came up with "Reader Account Suspended"


Was the information too good? *Was there malware embedded?


Better yet. What did it say to do?


I think the site owner forgot a bill, or got more bandwidth use in a month
than their contract is paid for.

If you enter this in Google:
save google logos site:readersstuffz.com
...you can see the cache of the page. The images are JPEG's not GIF's so it
involves cache trawling, and probably JavaScript code to make a slideshow to
animate the recovered images.


I often get all the .jpg images, but that's all they are. images.

The java script usually createsa blank screen. That's true on many of
the new website pages, too. java script ....and blank screen

My original question of saving the page is that sometimes, google
really presents something I'd like to save. Like Rube Goldberg's
birthday and the fireworks display etc, thankfully they usually limit
to fixed image that can be right clicked and saved.
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Old November 29th 11, 08:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How to save 'special' google home page images?

Robert Macy wrote in news:8851a7bb-bf79-43ce-9d1c-
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I often get all the .jpg images, but that's all they are. images.

The java script usually createsa blank screen. That's true on many of
the new website pages, too. java script ....and blank screen

My original question of saving the page is that sometimes, google
really presents something I'd like to save. Like Rube Goldberg's
birthday and the fireworks display etc, thankfully they usually limit
to fixed image that can be right clicked and saved.



If you are sure you have the JPG images that make up an animation, the next
thing you need to do is use something like the 'Animation Shop' extension of
Paintshop. Even when a web site does not use animated GIF images, you will
need to. The alternatives are HIDEOUS! Even if you know all there is to know
about JavaScript and Flash, it's not a good option because Flash is a
sledgehammer to crack a nut in this case, and JavaScript has no built in
pause! It has setTimeout and setInterval, but neither was meant to run this
way, and you'll need to have JavaScript enabled and working right whatever
you do, just to see it animate the image. Even then the timing will almost
certainly be rough and jerky if it delays each image properly at all.

Messing with timers in a browser script is an accident waiting to happen, but
the display of animated GIF images is so well established that you can at
least expect it to work. Maybe even in OffByOne. Though I suspect the
makers of that browser frown on animated GIF's.

Experiment with dither to get decent GIF copies of your JPG's, then
experiment with the timing required to animate the sequence at the right
speed. Once it looks right, save it, and you should have a small high quality
single GIF file that will animate correctly in any browser that will display
them. (Which is why I'm suprised that Google never did it this way in the
first place...)

If you can post a link to all the jpg images for a sequence, and if you know
how long the delay is for each frame (they can vary, though Google may have
used a constant duration), I can probably make a GIF out of them. I managed
to get House's 'Bros before ho's' thing made into a 40kb avatar for a girl on
Livejournal once, so I think this will work. Those Google logos look
perfectly suited for dithered GIF images too.
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Old November 30th 11, 05:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How to save 'special' google home page images?

On Nov 29, 1:24*pm, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Robert Macy wrote in news:8851a7bb-bf79-43ce-9d1c-
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I often get all the .jpg images, but that's all they are. images.


The java script usually createsa blank screen. *That's true on many of
the new website pages, too. *java script ....and blank screen


My original question of saving the page is that sometimes, google
really presents something I'd like to save. *Like Rube Goldberg's
birthday and the fireworks display etc, thankfully they usually limit
to fixed image that can be right clicked and saved.


If you are sure you have the JPG images that make up an animation, the next
thing you need to do is use something like the 'Animation Shop' extension of
Paintshop. Even when a web site does not use animated GIF images, you will
need to. The alternatives are HIDEOUS! Even if you know all there is to know
about JavaScript and Flash, it's not a good option because Flash is a
sledgehammer to crack a nut in this case, and JavaScript has no built in
pause! It has setTimeout and setInterval, but neither was meant to run this
way, and you'll need to have JavaScript enabled and working right whatever
you do, just to see it animate the image. Even then the timing will almost
certainly be rough and jerky if it delays each image properly at all.

Messing with timers in a browser script is an accident waiting to happen, but
the display of animated GIF images is so well established that you can at
least expect it to work. Maybe even in OffByOne. Though I suspect the
makers of that browser frown on animated GIF's.

Experiment with dither to get decent GIF copies of your JPG's, then
experiment with the timing required to animate the sequence at the right
speed. Once it looks right, save it, and you should have a small high quality
single GIF file that will animate correctly in any browser that will display
them. (Which is why I'm suprised that Google never did it this way in the
first place...)

If you can post a link to all the jpg images for a sequence, and if you know
how long the delay is for each frame (they can vary, though Google may have
used a constant duration), I can probably make a GIF out of them. I managed
to get House's 'Bros before ho's' thing made into a 40kb avatar for a girl on
Livejournal once, so I think this will work. Those Google logos look
perfectly suited for dithered GIF images too.


Thank you for the offer, next time, will alert you.

Just remembered, every now and then the images have some kind of
'checkerboard' pattern which ruins them for doing things manually.
From memory, may have been .png but didn't pay much attention,
priorities and all. But the animation is becoming more and more
prevalent, so would like to save to share while offline, or the next
day..
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Old November 30th 11, 12:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Robert Macy wrote in news:fe0bd7ff-b7d8-435f-848b-
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Just remembered, every now and then the images have some kind of
'checkerboard' pattern which ruins them for doing things manually.


Can you post some of the saved images? A link to them? I don't understand
this checkerboard pattern, and I don't see why that would be a problem. If
Google are making sequences of images, in place, that amount to animation,
and you can supply a complete sequence of those images, then I can make an
animation from them. I'm not trying to foist a service, I just want to solve
the puzzle. Mentioning checkerboards that imply this is impossible just adds
interest from my point of view..

Fastest way to salvage the separate images (if you haven't found someone;s
public stash online) is copy the entire browser cache into a single directory
on the desktop, use some tool that can change all file extensions to JPG,
then right-click on the directory to find all files (so you get a view of
them all without subdirectories), and drag the lot onto PaintShop. If you
can't see the ones you expect, change extension to PNG and retry.

If your browser cache has too many files for that to work, clear it all,
reload the Google page, and when all the frames of the animation have to be
in because the thing repeats itself a couple of times correctly, try the
salvage trick again. I really think the animation CAN be done, but you need
to be sure you have all the images used to make it.
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Old November 30th 11, 12:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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I just read a description of a Jules Verne Google thinger which had an
interactive control, which means that these may not be animations at all. If
they are in any way controllable by the viewer then they are not fixed
sequences of images, in which case you need to explore the source code to
find out what is being embedded in the page because you have to get the
original file they sent you, (or control it while using some kind of movie-
screenshot tool to record what you made it do, which is what some guy did
before posting the description I read). It's not enough to look at element
properties on the web page because you might only get the description of a
fixed image to be shown to those who can't see the active version. Look for a
Flash file, because those are most common way to get interactive code-based
visual displays to people on web pages.
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Old November 30th 11, 12:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How to save 'special' google home page images?

More... There are standalone Flash players from Adobe. They're not always
easy to find, they're usually buried in the developers' part of the site. Try
to get one if you haven't already, they let you play saved Flash games, and
it seems that interactive Google doodles will use the same methods.
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Old December 1st 11, 12:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How to save 'special' google home page images?

On Nov 30, 5:38*am, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
More... There are standalone Flash players from Adobe. They're not always
easy to find, they're usually buried in the developers' part of the site. Try
to get one if you haven't already, they let you play saved Flash games, and
it seems that interactive Google doodles will use the same methods.


Today, google presented Mark Twain's 178th birthday, but for some
reason there was no way to save the fixed image. Right click ALWAYS
produced an incorrect .html which is the link, not the image. I
saved using alt-print screen, but the original would have 'matching'
resolution.

Any idea on that one?
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Old December 1st 11, 02:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How to save 'special' google home page images?

On 11/30/2011 19:56, Robert Macy wrote:
On Nov 30, 5:38 am, wrote:
More... There are standalone Flash players from Adobe. They're not always
easy to find, they're usually buried in the developers' part of the site. Try
to get one if you haven't already, they let you play saved Flash games, and
it seems that interactive Google doodles will use the same methods.


Today, google presented Mark Twain's 178th birthday, but for some
reason there was no way to save the fixed image. Right click ALWAYS
produced an incorrect .html which is the link, not the image. I
saved using alt-print screen, but the original would have 'matching'
resolution.

Any idea on that one?


What about this:
http://www.google.com/logos/2011/twain11-hp-bg.jpg

from the html source code.

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Old December 1st 11, 03:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How to save 'special' google home page images?

Robert Macy wrote in news:89a45af6-2b16-4193-b272-
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Today, google presented Mark Twain's 178th birthday, but for some
reason there was no way to save the fixed image. Right click ALWAYS
produced an incorrect .html which is the link, not the image. I
saved using alt-print screen, but the original would have 'matching'
resolution.

Any idea on that one?


What Bill said. Source code. When someone tries to make it hard to save
something, you have two choices, source code for direct linkage, or cache.
Even if it's in the cache you often need to look at the source to figure out
what to look for. You can always try renaming everythign to *.jpg, then *.flv
or whatever, to try to locate it but if you can examine the source it takes
some guesswork out of it.

Google already changed by the time I saw your post so I don't have any
specific answers. I did see the Mark Twain thing before though. And, I just
tried what I said in an earlier post, to see if was still in the cache. It
was. After I renamed all files in the (copied) cache directory to *.jpg, I
just opened the lot in PaintShop, and I immediately saw the large-sized
Google thinger I saw earlier.

Once you know that to show you something, a site has to get it onto your
machine, and you know how to recover it, focus on that, it really doesn't
matter so much how they try to stop you. What DOES matter is figuring out the
actual format used so you don't have transcoded copies that don't work.
Obviously in an interactive one that can matter, as if all you can get is a
still image from a screenshot, you have no animation, never mind interactive
Flash or whatever. As Google don't seem to bother trying to make it hard to
save their standard logo, start with the source for that so you know where to
look for changes later.
 




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