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  #1  
Old August 2nd 10, 08:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jim
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What are you all using for AV now that Avast has stopped updating the win9x
OS?


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Old August 2nd 10, 10:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
thanatoid
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"Jim" wrote in
:

What are you all using for AV now that Avast has stopped
updating the win9x OS?


ESET ver 2.7 for 9x and ME. Updates supposedly will be available
until sometime in 2011, but they are IDENTICAL to the current
XP/v/7 version in any case.

They have sites all over the world and some of them still have
the 2.7 ver for download. If you can't find it, I can post it
for you in some binary group. You WILL have to buy your own
license ;-) but the same license will run 2.7, the newest
version, AND the DOS version (yes!).

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Old August 2nd 10, 11:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Sunny
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"Jim" wrote in message
...
What are you all using for AV now that Avast has stopped updating the
win9x
OS?


Just updated Avast on a Wn98SE box 20 minutes ago.
(When did they stop?)


  #4  
Old August 3rd 10, 12:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Jim wrote:

What are you all using for AV now that Avast has stopped updating
the win9x OS?


Generally speaking, Windows 9x/ME systems don't really need to be
running AV software, and haven't needed to for about the past 3 to 5
years. This is because most malware doesn't run or install itself
properly on the 9X/ME line of operating systems (for the past few years,
malware expects to find itself on NT-based OS's like XP, Vista, etc).

If you are running win-98/me and you're so paranoid that you need to run
an AV program, Norton Antivirus 2002 works well and can still be updated
with a current scan engine and virus definitions.

Norton Antivirus 2002 is part of Norton SystemWorks 2002, which can be
downloaded from these links:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-A.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-B.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-C.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-D.ZIP

The password to unzip each of them is "a". Each file is close to 50 mb
in size.

When unzipped, you'll get

NSW02-1.piz
NSW02-2.piz
NSW02-3.piz
NSW02-4.piz

Rename them each to .zip. They are not password protected.

Create a directory (name doesn't matter) and move files 1, 2 and 3 into
that directory and unzip them into that directory. There should be no
conflicts or warnings to over-write any existing files.

For file 4, move it to the \SUPPORT\IE5 directory and unzip it's
contents into that directory.

When you're done all that, you should have an exact copy of the
directory structure of the NSW 2002 CD. There should be 10 files and 13
folders in the root directory. 590 files, 41 folders, 207 mb.

To install NSW-2002, just run setup.exe in the root.

Notes:

1) Before installing, you should go to add/remove programs in control
panel and check to see if you have any Symantec or Norton products
already there, including LiveUpdate, LiveReg, Norton AntiVirus, Norton
Utilities, or Norton SystemWorks. You will probably have to remove some
or most of them, and then re-boot your computer, for NSW2002 to install
itself correctly. You should also make sure your PC's clock/calendar is
set to the correct date.

If your system has ever had NAV installed on it before, you might have
to do a complete search for all old remnants and remove them. From your
registry too.

See here for NAV removal tool:

http://service1.symantec.com/Support...05033108162039

2) Once you complete step 1, perform a file-find on your system and look
for a file called "catalog.livesubscribe" or just "catalog.*". If you
find that file (it will be in a norton or symantec directory) then it
must be deleted before you install this software. It's best to check
your system for this file even if you don't think that NAV is or has
ever been installed on your system. The presence of that file will
affect your ability to perform virus-definition updates once you
install NAV 2002.

3) After installing NSW2002, let it restart your system. There are
several settings in NAV that I turn off - like automatically check for
updates, and warn if virus def's are old. If it gives you the option of
registering the software - don't. It's not necessary for it to
function.

4) Your win-98 system will probably need to have it's "Root
Certificates" updated, and update your Windows Scripting Host to 5.6

I *believe* that this file will update the root certificates of a win-98
system:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...n/rootsupd.exe

Windows Scripting host (Windows9x-Script56-KB917344-x86-enu.exe) can be
downloaded from he

ttp://www.macropool.com/en/download/scripting/Windows9x-Script56-KB917344-x86-enu.exe


5) If you click on "Check for Updates" you will probably be told that
there is an update to Symantec Redirector, which can be downloaded but
may not install. In any case, it's my experience that both auto and
manual updating (liveupdate button) doesn't work, and hasn't worked
since maybe 2007. But that's ok, because you can download all program
updates and virus definitions from here (Symantec Intelligent Updater):

ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/englis...ymcdefsi32.exe

That file always contains the most recent virus definition update. So
download and run it as often as you want (even once a day if you're
paranoid).

When trying to run that update, if you get the following error message:

"This package is not signed with a valid Symantec signature.
This Intelligent Updater package cannot continue installing."

Then you need to update your root certificates.
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Old August 3rd 10, 03:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
webster72n
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98 Guy:

I am quite impressed by your intricate knowledge of Windows ME,
yet cannot understand your dislike of the system.
I myself am totally comfortable with it, even though I just use it for
back-up to my current Vista system.
It also has not the best reputation, yet I fail to find fault with it as
well.
But that may be because of my personal use only, contrary to business use.
As has been mentioned before, you certainly are an asset to this or any
group,
as long as they will be allowed to thrive.

Harry.



"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
Jim wrote:

What are you all using for AV now that Avast has stopped updating
the win9x OS?


Generally speaking, Windows 9x/ME systems don't really need to be
running AV software, and haven't needed to for about the past 3 to 5
years. This is because most malware doesn't run or install itself
properly on the 9X/ME line of operating systems (for the past few years,
malware expects to find itself on NT-based OS's like XP, Vista, etc).

If you are running win-98/me and you're so paranoid that you need to run
an AV program, Norton Antivirus 2002 works well and can still be updated
with a current scan engine and virus definitions.

Norton Antivirus 2002 is part of Norton SystemWorks 2002, which can be
downloaded from these links:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-A.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-B.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-C.ZIP
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...82/NSW02-D.ZIP

The password to unzip each of them is "a". Each file is close to 50 mb
in size.

When unzipped, you'll get

NSW02-1.piz
NSW02-2.piz
NSW02-3.piz
NSW02-4.piz

Rename them each to .zip. They are not password protected.

Create a directory (name doesn't matter) and move files 1, 2 and 3 into
that directory and unzip them into that directory. There should be no
conflicts or warnings to over-write any existing files.

For file 4, move it to the \SUPPORT\IE5 directory and unzip it's
contents into that directory.

When you're done all that, you should have an exact copy of the
directory structure of the NSW 2002 CD. There should be 10 files and 13
folders in the root directory. 590 files, 41 folders, 207 mb.

To install NSW-2002, just run setup.exe in the root.

Notes:

1) Before installing, you should go to add/remove programs in control
panel and check to see if you have any Symantec or Norton products
already there, including LiveUpdate, LiveReg, Norton AntiVirus, Norton
Utilities, or Norton SystemWorks. You will probably have to remove some
or most of them, and then re-boot your computer, for NSW2002 to install
itself correctly. You should also make sure your PC's clock/calendar is
set to the correct date.

If your system has ever had NAV installed on it before, you might have
to do a complete search for all old remnants and remove them. From your
registry too.

See here for NAV removal tool:

http://service1.symantec.com/Support...05033108162039

2) Once you complete step 1, perform a file-find on your system and look
for a file called "catalog.livesubscribe" or just "catalog.*". If you
find that file (it will be in a norton or symantec directory) then it
must be deleted before you install this software. It's best to check
your system for this file even if you don't think that NAV is or has
ever been installed on your system. The presence of that file will
affect your ability to perform virus-definition updates once you
install NAV 2002.

3) After installing NSW2002, let it restart your system. There are
several settings in NAV that I turn off - like automatically check for
updates, and warn if virus def's are old. If it gives you the option of
registering the software - don't. It's not necessary for it to
function.

4) Your win-98 system will probably need to have it's "Root
Certificates" updated, and update your Windows Scripting Host to 5.6

I *believe* that this file will update the root certificates of a win-98
system:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...n/rootsupd.exe

Windows Scripting host (Windows9x-Script56-KB917344-x86-enu.exe) can be
downloaded from he

ttp://www.macropool.com/en/download/scripting/Windows9x-Script56-KB917344-x86-enu.exe


5) If you click on "Check for Updates" you will probably be told that
there is an update to Symantec Redirector, which can be downloaded but
may not install. In any case, it's my experience that both auto and
manual updating (liveupdate button) doesn't work, and hasn't worked
since maybe 2007. But that's ok, because you can download all program
updates and virus definitions from here (Symantec Intelligent Updater):

ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/englis...ymcdefsi32.exe

That file always contains the most recent virus definition update. So
download and run it as often as you want (even once a day if you're
paranoid).

When trying to run that update, if you get the following error message:

"This package is not signed with a valid Symantec signature.
This Intelligent Updater package cannot continue installing."

Then you need to update your root certificates.


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Old August 3rd 10, 03:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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webster72n top-poasted:

I am quite impressed by your intricate knowledge of Windows ME,


Actually, I've never used Windows ME. Sure, I have the CD and could
install it any time I want, but I simply never have. It's Windows 98se
that is my current OS, and has been since probably some time in 2000
when I changed from Windows 95 (I skipped right over 98fe)

yet cannot understand your dislike of the system.


Microsoft botched Windows ME. The only reason for it's existance was to
take advantage of the Y2K scare that gripped the world back in 1999.
It's a step backwards from Win-98 the way I see it. Much the same way
that Vista was a step backwards from XP.

But I'm curious - where exactly in my last post did I convey any
impression about Windows ME - negative or otherwise?
  #7  
Old August 3rd 10, 04:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
webster72n
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"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
webster72n top-posted:


Still trying to find the proper way...


I am quite impressed by your intricate knowledge of Windows ME,


Actually, I've never used Windows ME. Sure, I have the CD and could
install it any time I want, but I simply never have. It's Windows 98se
that is my current OS, and has been since probably some time in 2000
when I changed from Windows 95 (I skipped right over 98fe)

yet cannot understand your dislike of the system.


Microsoft botched Windows ME. The only reason for it's existance was to
take advantage of the Y2K scare that gripped the world back in 1999.
It's a step backwards from Win-98 the way I see it. Much the same way
that Vista was a step backwards from XP.

But I'm curious - where exactly in my last post did I convey any
impression about Windows ME - negative or otherwise?


You didn't, I was reflecting back to the Windows Me group, which is history
now,
as will all the rest of them be in time to come.
Hence my 'splashing in the water' now.

Harry.



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Old August 3rd 10, 12:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Eddie
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Jim wrote:
What are you all using for AV now that Avast has stopped updating the win9x
OS?




Avast! I still get updates.

Ed
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Old August 4th 10, 01:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Sunny
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"Eddie" wrote in message
u...
Jim wrote:
What are you all using for AV now that Avast has stopped updating the
win9x
OS?


Avast! I still get updates.

Ed


Same here, although the original poster may have left it more than a week
to "update"
(There is some sort of glitch that causes Win98 to fail updating if left
too long)
The solution is to download the 40Mb update and manually install.
http://www.avast.com/download-update

Make sure Version 4 is selected
HTH


  #10  
Old August 8th 10, 07:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jim
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I probably had the freeware version for to long.
" Sunny" wrote in message
...

"Jim" wrote in message
...
What are you all using for AV now that Avast has stopped updating the
win9x
OS?


Just updated Avast on a Wn98SE box 20 minutes ago.
(When did they stop?)



 




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