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serial mouse no where to be seen
We have 2 similar aged P MMX pcs, one with 98se(1) and other with ME(2),.
Both pc's used serial mouse and serial kb. PC (1) is working fine. (the pc's are not connected to each other) The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue). So, I took out hd (1) and put in hd (2) that is with the ME into pc(!). It boots up ok but the mouse is no where to be seen while the kb seems to be ok as I was able to move the 'dot' when I press '+'/arrow sign. Pls advice how can I solve this problem, many thanks. When it rains, it never seems to stop...... |
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Boot into Safe Mode (Ctrl or F8 keys at startup) and navigate to Device
Manager (using the keyboard Tab and arrow keys etc.) Look for ANY/ALL mouse and pointing devices and "Remove" them. Shut down and reboot (into Normal Mode). WinMe should re-detect the serial mouse and install the drivers. BTW - you *might* find that the mouse actually works in Safe Mode. HTH Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... We have 2 similar aged P MMX pcs, one with 98se(1) and other with ME(2),. Both pc's used serial mouse and serial kb. PC (1) is working fine. (the pc's are not connected to each other) The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue). So, I took out hd (1) and put in hd (2) that is with the ME into pc(!). It boots up ok but the mouse is no where to be seen while the kb seems to be ok as I was able to move the 'dot' when I press '+'/arrow sign. Pls advice how can I solve this problem, many thanks. When it rains, it never seems to stop...... |
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I realised that there is a ps2 port, so I attached the ps2 mouse instead of
the serial mouse and boot up under safe mode and the ps2 mouse works. However, it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) and let it detect and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? In fact the mouse is no where to be seen. (move all over the place, but its playing hide and seek, no where to be seen... pls adv as obviously I need it to work in normal mode. thanks "Mart" wrote: Boot into Safe Mode (Ctrl or F8 keys at startup) and navigate to Device Manager (using the keyboard Tab and arrow keys etc.) Look for ANY/ALL mouse and pointing devices and "Remove" them. Shut down and reboot (into Normal Mode). WinMe should re-detect the serial mouse and install the drivers. BTW - you *might* find that the mouse actually works in Safe Mode. HTH Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... We have 2 similar aged P MMX pcs, one with 98se(1) and other with ME(2),. Both pc's used serial mouse and serial kb. PC (1) is working fine. (the pc's are not connected to each other) The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue). So, I took out hd (1) and put in hd (2) that is with the ME into pc(!). It boots up ok but the mouse is no where to be seen while the kb seems to be ok as I was able to move the 'dot' when I press '+'/arrow sign. Pls advice how can I solve this problem, many thanks. When it rains, it never seems to stop...... |
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.. it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1
ps2 entry. In NORMAL MODE? - What do you see in SAFE MODE? Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) In SAFE MODE? and let it detect In NORMAL MODE? and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? But, did you attempt to "Remove" ALL mouse/pointer devices in SAFE MODE? Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... I realised that there is a ps2 port, so I attached the ps2 mouse instead of the serial mouse and boot up under safe mode and the ps2 mouse works. However, it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) and let it detect and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? In fact the mouse is no where to be seen. (move all over the place, but its playing hide and seek, no where to be seen... pls adv as obviously I need it to work in normal mode. thanks "Mart" wrote: Boot into Safe Mode (Ctrl or F8 keys at startup) and navigate to Device Manager (using the keyboard Tab and arrow keys etc.) Look for ANY/ALL mouse and pointing devices and "Remove" them. Shut down and reboot (into Normal Mode). WinMe should re-detect the serial mouse and install the drivers. BTW - you *might* find that the mouse actually works in Safe Mode. HTH Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... We have 2 similar aged P MMX pcs, one with 98se(1) and other with ME(2),. Both pc's used serial mouse and serial kb. PC (1) is working fine. (the pc's are not connected to each other) The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue). So, I took out hd (1) and put in hd (2) that is with the ME into pc(!). It boots up ok but the mouse is no where to be seen while the kb seems to be ok as I was able to move the 'dot' when I press '+'/arrow sign. Pls advice how can I solve this problem, many thanks. When it rains, it never seems to stop...... |
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let me sstart again, with the ps2 mouse.
1/ now I start in Normal, the mouse no where to be seen. Shut down the pc. 2/ Start in safe mode, after hitting ;safe mode' the system seems hang as the hour glass just appear at the centre of the screen. Hit 'enter' key, nothing happen, So have to push the power buttons to 'off' pc. 3/ Start in safe mode again(after hitting 'safe mode' get the 'ME' logo' and the message 'window is by passing the start up files' , {{which I did not get in (2)}} then scan disk 'c' After finish scanning, get the hour glass (like in 2) and hang there. Hit 'enter' nothing happen and looks like I have to push the button again. 4/ repeat (3) and get the same result. After finish scanning the 'c', ithang there. ((the hd was scan for virus using NAV 2005 and Adware witht he latest definitions)) what could be wrong and the ME cd has long gone in the bin. Any thing I can do next. Oddly why was it working before in the 'safe mode.' "Mart" wrote: .. it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. In NORMAL MODE? - What do you see in SAFE MODE? Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) In SAFE MODE? and let it detect In NORMAL MODE? and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? But, did you attempt to "Remove" ALL mouse/pointer devices in SAFE MODE? Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... I realised that there is a ps2 port, so I attached the ps2 mouse instead of the serial mouse and boot up under safe mode and the ps2 mouse works. However, it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) and let it detect and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? In fact the mouse is no where to be seen. (move all over the place, but its playing hide and seek, no where to be seen... pls adv as obviously I need it to work in normal mode. thanks "Mart" wrote: Boot into Safe Mode (Ctrl or F8 keys at startup) and navigate to Device Manager (using the keyboard Tab and arrow keys etc.) Look for ANY/ALL mouse and pointing devices and "Remove" them. Shut down and reboot (into Normal Mode). WinMe should re-detect the serial mouse and install the drivers. BTW - you *might* find that the mouse actually works in Safe Mode. HTH Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... We have 2 similar aged P MMX pcs, one with 98se(1) and other with ME(2),. Both pc's used serial mouse and serial kb. PC (1) is working fine. (the pc's are not connected to each other) The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue). So, I took out hd (1) and put in hd (2) that is with the ME into pc(!). It boots up ok but the mouse is no where to be seen while the kb seems to be ok as I was able to move the 'dot' when I press '+'/arrow sign. Pls advice how can I solve this problem, many thanks. When it rains, it never seems to stop...... |
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what could be wrong?
Well, if not before, you have probably by now made yourself a nice bowl of mouse driver "soup". (Conflict of drivers) From your responses, it would seem that you didn't follow (either of) my previous suggestions - the first in particular. However, the fact that you swapped the HD from one machine to another will probably have upset the 'original' WinMe registry, as at least some of the other hardware (and drivers) will be different. Further, the fact that "The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue)." doesn't bode too well - I just wonder what else was/is faulty? and the ME cd has long gone in the bin. Along with the WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk, I suppose - Oh dear!! Any thing I can do next. In view of the state that you are now in - and the fact that HD is in the 'wrong' machine (registry issues) - and that you no longer have a WinMe CD, you might just as well start over and clean install Win98se - assuming you still have that CD!!. And from this distance, without any tools (the WinMe Startup Disk or CD) there's little else I can offer. Oddly why was it working before in the 'safe mode.' Probably more by good luck than good management - but by not following my suggestions and switching-off, part way through a setting-up sequence wouldn't have helped. You *might* get some help from your local computer techie who would be able to get a 'hands-on' go at it. Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... let me sstart again, with the ps2 mouse. 1/ now I start in Normal, the mouse no where to be seen. Shut down the pc. 2/ Start in safe mode, after hitting ;safe mode' the system seems hang as the hour glass just appear at the centre of the screen. Hit 'enter' key, nothing happen, So have to push the power buttons to 'off' pc. 3/ Start in safe mode again(after hitting 'safe mode' get the 'ME' logo' and the message 'window is by passing the start up files' , {{which I did not get in (2)}} then scan disk 'c' After finish scanning, get the hour glass (like in 2) and hang there. Hit 'enter' nothing happen and looks like I have to push the button again. 4/ repeat (3) and get the same result. After finish scanning the 'c', ithang there. ((the hd was scan for virus using NAV 2005 and Adware witht he latest definitions)) what could be wrong and the ME cd has long gone in the bin. Any thing I can do next. Oddly why was it working before in the 'safe mode.' "Mart" wrote: .. it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. In NORMAL MODE? - What do you see in SAFE MODE? Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) In SAFE MODE? and let it detect In NORMAL MODE? and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? But, did you attempt to "Remove" ALL mouse/pointer devices in SAFE MODE? Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... I realised that there is a ps2 port, so I attached the ps2 mouse instead of the serial mouse and boot up under safe mode and the ps2 mouse works. However, it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) and let it detect and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? In fact the mouse is no where to be seen. (move all over the place, but its playing hide and seek, no where to be seen... pls adv as obviously I need it to work in normal mode. thanks "Mart" wrote: Boot into Safe Mode (Ctrl or F8 keys at startup) and navigate to Device Manager (using the keyboard Tab and arrow keys etc.) Look for ANY/ALL mouse and pointing devices and "Remove" them. Shut down and reboot (into Normal Mode). WinMe should re-detect the serial mouse and install the drivers. BTW - you *might* find that the mouse actually works in Safe Mode. HTH Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... We have 2 similar aged P MMX pcs, one with 98se(1) and other with ME(2),. Both pc's used serial mouse and serial kb. PC (1) is working fine. (the pc's are not connected to each other) The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue). So, I took out hd (1) and put in hd (2) that is with the ME into pc(!). It boots up ok but the mouse is no where to be seen while the kb seems to be ok as I was able to move the 'dot' when I press '+'/arrow sign. Pls advice how can I solve this problem, many thanks. When it rains, it never seems to stop...... |
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What happen after (4) power off, I decides to take out the ps2 mouse and put
in the serial mouse and boot up on 'safe mode'. It does its usual thing, scan and the mouse works. In the device mgr, there is the 'ps2 mouse' entry only and nothing else. I delete it and after a while the mouse icon is gone from the main tree. BUT the funny thing is the mouse is still working after I deleted it and (no mouse icon in the main tree). I can navigate to open my word file etc. Its a real mystery, normally when you deleted the driver, once gone, you expect the mouse to stop working immediately. any idea whats going on here? Next, start in normal mode and the serial mouse is noway to be seen. Anthing I should do in bios. With the serial mouse in place, its back to square one. sorry that I did not follow what was explain earlier. Think it come back to the same situation, where could the conflict lies? Pleas help as reformat is the last thing I want to do, thanks Mart, "Mart" wrote: what could be wrong? Well, if not before, you have probably by now made yourself a nice bowl of mouse driver "soup". (Conflict of drivers) From your responses, it would seem that you didn't follow (either of) my previous suggestions - the first in particular. However, the fact that you swapped the HD from one machine to another will probably have upset the 'original' WinMe registry, as at least some of the other hardware (and drivers) will be different. Further, the fact that "The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue)." doesn't bode too well - I just wonder what else was/is faulty? and the ME cd has long gone in the bin. Along with the WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk, I suppose - Oh dear!! Any thing I can do next. In view of the state that you are now in - and the fact that HD is in the 'wrong' machine (registry issues) - and that you no longer have a WinMe CD, you might just as well start over and clean install Win98se - assuming you still have that CD!!. And from this distance, without any tools (the WinMe Startup Disk or CD) there's little else I can offer. Oddly why was it working before in the 'safe mode.' Probably more by good luck than good management - but by not following my suggestions and switching-off, part way through a setting-up sequence wouldn't have helped. You *might* get some help from your local computer techie who would be able to get a 'hands-on' go at it. Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... let me sstart again, with the ps2 mouse. 1/ now I start in Normal, the mouse no where to be seen. Shut down the pc. 2/ Start in safe mode, after hitting ;safe mode' the system seems hang as the hour glass just appear at the centre of the screen. Hit 'enter' key, nothing happen, So have to push the power buttons to 'off' pc. 3/ Start in safe mode again(after hitting 'safe mode' get the 'ME' logo' and the message 'window is by passing the start up files' , {{which I did not get in (2)}} then scan disk 'c' After finish scanning, get the hour glass (like in 2) and hang there. Hit 'enter' nothing happen and looks like I have to push the button again. 4/ repeat (3) and get the same result. After finish scanning the 'c', ithang there. ((the hd was scan for virus using NAV 2005 and Adware witht he latest definitions)) what could be wrong and the ME cd has long gone in the bin. Any thing I can do next. Oddly why was it working before in the 'safe mode.' "Mart" wrote: .. it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. In NORMAL MODE? - What do you see in SAFE MODE? Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) In SAFE MODE? and let it detect In NORMAL MODE? and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? But, did you attempt to "Remove" ALL mouse/pointer devices in SAFE MODE? Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... I realised that there is a ps2 port, so I attached the ps2 mouse instead of the serial mouse and boot up under safe mode and the ps2 mouse works. However, it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) and let it detect and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? In fact the mouse is no where to be seen. (move all over the place, but its playing hide and seek, no where to be seen... pls adv as obviously I need it to work in normal mode. thanks "Mart" wrote: Boot into Safe Mode (Ctrl or F8 keys at startup) and navigate to Device Manager (using the keyboard Tab and arrow keys etc.) Look for ANY/ALL mouse and pointing devices and "Remove" them. Shut down and reboot (into Normal Mode). WinMe should re-detect the serial mouse and install the drivers. BTW - you *might* find that the mouse actually works in Safe Mode. HTH Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... We have 2 similar aged P MMX pcs, one with 98se(1) and other with ME(2),. Both pc's used serial mouse and serial kb. PC (1) is working fine. (the pc's are not connected to each other) The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue). So, I took out hd (1) and put in hd (2) that is with the ME into pc(!). It boots up ok but the mouse is no where to be seen while the kb seems to be ok as I was able to move the 'dot' when I press '+'/arrow sign. Pls advice how can I solve this problem, many thanks. When it rains, it never seems to stop...... |
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twins2 wrote:-
.... In the device mgr, there is the 'ps2 mouse' entry only and nothing else. I delete it and after a while the mouse icon is gone from the main tree. BUT the funny thing is the mouse is still working after I deleted it and (no mouse icon in the main tree). I can navigate to open my word file etc. OK, although you "Removed"or 'deleted' it in DevMan, the (basic) mouse driver is still (usually) resident until you power-down. Hence it continued to 'work' Next, start in normal mode and the serial mouse is noway to be seen. Did WinMe advise you that it (the mouse) was being detected during the boot-up process - and ask you for a driver disk? (BTW - What make of mouse is it and was a driver disk provided with the mouse? - Does it have a Wheel as well as the two (L & R) buttons? If so, it may require a special driver rather than a 'Generic' driver. Are there any conflicts (Yellow question marks or exclamation marks) showing in DevMan in NORMAL MODE when the mouse isn't being seen on the screen? ... Anthing I should do in bios. No, I don't think it's a BIOS problem - more likely a WinMe driver problem - BUT I am very concerned about the likelihood of a 'mis-matched' registry, due to swapping the drive from the other PC. If you haven't got a WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk, then you *MAY* be able to make one yourself (see How to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me) - http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267287 ) If you are unable to do that, then download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . **Be sure to read the instructions.** Bed time here in the UK (8hrs ahead of you guys) see how you get on. Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... What happen after (4) power off, I decides to take out the ps2 mouse and put in the serial mouse and boot up on 'safe mode'. It does its usual thing, scan and the mouse works. In the device mgr, there is the 'ps2 mouse' entry only and nothing else. I delete it and after a while the mouse icon is gone from the main tree. BUT the funny thing is the mouse is still working after I deleted it and (no mouse icon in the main tree). I can navigate to open my word file etc. Its a real mystery, normally when you deleted the driver, once gone, you expect the mouse to stop working immediately. any idea whats going on here? Next, start in normal mode and the serial mouse is noway to be seen. Anthing I should do in bios. With the serial mouse in place, its back to square one. sorry that I did not follow what was explain earlier. Think it come back to the same situation, where could the conflict lies? Pleas help as reformat is the last thing I want to do, thanks Mart, "Mart" wrote: what could be wrong? Well, if not before, you have probably by now made yourself a nice bowl of mouse driver "soup". (Conflict of drivers) From your responses, it would seem that you didn't follow (either of) my previous suggestions - the first in particular. However, the fact that you swapped the HD from one machine to another will probably have upset the 'original' WinMe registry, as at least some of the other hardware (and drivers) will be different. Further, the fact that "The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue)." doesn't bode too well - I just wonder what else was/is faulty? and the ME cd has long gone in the bin. Along with the WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk, I suppose - Oh dear!! Any thing I can do next. In view of the state that you are now in - and the fact that HD is in the 'wrong' machine (registry issues) - and that you no longer have a WinMe CD, you might just as well start over and clean install Win98se - assuming you still have that CD!!. And from this distance, without any tools (the WinMe Startup Disk or CD) there's little else I can offer. Oddly why was it working before in the 'safe mode.' Probably more by good luck than good management - but by not following my suggestions and switching-off, part way through a setting-up sequence wouldn't have helped. You *might* get some help from your local computer techie who would be able to get a 'hands-on' go at it. Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... let me sstart again, with the ps2 mouse. 1/ now I start in Normal, the mouse no where to be seen. Shut down the pc. 2/ Start in safe mode, after hitting ;safe mode' the system seems hang as the hour glass just appear at the centre of the screen. Hit 'enter' key, nothing happen, So have to push the power buttons to 'off' pc. 3/ Start in safe mode again(after hitting 'safe mode' get the 'ME' logo' and the message 'window is by passing the start up files' , {{which I did not get in (2)}} then scan disk 'c' After finish scanning, get the hour glass (like in 2) and hang there. Hit 'enter' nothing happen and looks like I have to push the button again. 4/ repeat (3) and get the same result. After finish scanning the 'c', ithang there. ((the hd was scan for virus using NAV 2005 and Adware witht he latest definitions)) what could be wrong and the ME cd has long gone in the bin. Any thing I can do next. Oddly why was it working before in the 'safe mode.' "Mart" wrote: .. it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. In NORMAL MODE? - What do you see in SAFE MODE? Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) In SAFE MODE? and let it detect In NORMAL MODE? and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? But, did you attempt to "Remove" ALL mouse/pointer devices in SAFE MODE? Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... I realised that there is a ps2 port, so I attached the ps2 mouse instead of the serial mouse and boot up under safe mode and the ps2 mouse works. However, it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) and let it detect and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? In fact the mouse is no where to be seen. (move all over the place, but its playing hide and seek, no where to be seen... pls adv as obviously I need it to work in normal mode. thanks "Mart" wrote: Boot into Safe Mode (Ctrl or F8 keys at startup) and navigate to Device Manager (using the keyboard Tab and arrow keys etc.) Look for ANY/ALL mouse and pointing devices and "Remove" them. Shut down and reboot (into Normal Mode). WinMe should re-detect the serial mouse and install the drivers. BTW - you *might* find that the mouse actually works in Safe Mode. HTH Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... We have 2 similar aged P MMX pcs, one with 98se(1) and other with ME(2),. Both pc's used serial mouse and serial kb. PC (1) is working fine. (the pc's are not connected to each other) The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue). So, I took out hd (1) and put in hd (2) that is with the ME into pc(!). It boots up ok but the mouse is no where to be seen while the kb seems to be ok as I was able to move the 'dot' when I press '+'/arrow sign. Pls advice how can I solve this problem, many thanks. When it rains, it never seems to stop...... |
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The serial mouse is just the L/R click only.
Since the serial mouse does not work under normal boot, decided to shut down, took out the serial mouse and boot normally and shut down again. Then connect the serial mouse again and boot up normally. No, the pc never say detected a new hardware and cos the mouse is no way to be seen. Then I boot up again under 'safe mode' , ya, the mouse works but there is no mouse icon. There is a question mark under the tree is PCI multimedia .../PCI network controller/Real magic pro. (this is under the 'safe mode' (Sorry, I do not know how to go to DM under normal mode since the mouse does not work) I hope you can follow my sequence of events and assist to fig out. On the ME Startup disk, since it can bootup under 'safe mode' can I make the STARTUP disk from there? What can I use it for? ++ AS for the ps2 mouse did not try any further, fyi the ps2 has a wheel in the middle besides the L/R click. Thanks "Mart" wrote: twins2 wrote:- .... In the device mgr, there is the 'ps2 mouse' entry only and nothing else. I delete it and after a while the mouse icon is gone from the main tree. BUT the funny thing is the mouse is still working after I deleted it and (no mouse icon in the main tree). I can navigate to open my word file etc. OK, although you "Removed"or 'deleted' it in DevMan, the (basic) mouse driver is still (usually) resident until you power-down. Hence it continued to 'work' Next, start in normal mode and the serial mouse is noway to be seen. Did WinMe advise you that it (the mouse) was being detected during the boot-up process - and ask you for a driver disk? (BTW - What make of mouse is it and was a driver disk provided with the mouse? - Does it have a Wheel as well as the two (L & R) buttons? If so, it may require a special driver rather than a 'Generic' driver. Are there any conflicts (Yellow question marks or exclamation marks) showing in DevMan in NORMAL MODE when the mouse isn't being seen on the screen? ... Anthing I should do in bios. No, I don't think it's a BIOS problem - more likely a WinMe driver problem - BUT I am very concerned about the likelihood of a 'mis-matched' registry, due to swapping the drive from the other PC. If you haven't got a WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk, then you *MAY* be able to make one yourself (see How to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me) - http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;267287 ) If you are unable to do that, then download an image and make one from www.bootdisk.com . **Be sure to read the instructions.** Bed time here in the UK (8hrs ahead of you guys) see how you get on. Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... What happen after (4) power off, I decides to take out the ps2 mouse and put in the serial mouse and boot up on 'safe mode'. It does its usual thing, scan and the mouse works. In the device mgr, there is the 'ps2 mouse' entry only and nothing else. I delete it and after a while the mouse icon is gone from the main tree. BUT the funny thing is the mouse is still working after I deleted it and (no mouse icon in the main tree). I can navigate to open my word file etc. Its a real mystery, normally when you deleted the driver, once gone, you expect the mouse to stop working immediately. any idea whats going on here? Next, start in normal mode and the serial mouse is noway to be seen. Anthing I should do in bios. With the serial mouse in place, its back to square one. sorry that I did not follow what was explain earlier. Think it come back to the same situation, where could the conflict lies? Pleas help as reformat is the last thing I want to do, thanks Mart, "Mart" wrote: what could be wrong? Well, if not before, you have probably by now made yourself a nice bowl of mouse driver "soup". (Conflict of drivers) From your responses, it would seem that you didn't follow (either of) my previous suggestions - the first in particular. However, the fact that you swapped the HD from one machine to another will probably have upset the 'original' WinMe registry, as at least some of the other hardware (and drivers) will be different. Further, the fact that "The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue)." doesn't bode too well - I just wonder what else was/is faulty? and the ME cd has long gone in the bin. Along with the WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk, I suppose - Oh dear!! Any thing I can do next. In view of the state that you are now in - and the fact that HD is in the 'wrong' machine (registry issues) - and that you no longer have a WinMe CD, you might just as well start over and clean install Win98se - assuming you still have that CD!!. And from this distance, without any tools (the WinMe Startup Disk or CD) there's little else I can offer. Oddly why was it working before in the 'safe mode.' Probably more by good luck than good management - but by not following my suggestions and switching-off, part way through a setting-up sequence wouldn't have helped. You *might* get some help from your local computer techie who would be able to get a 'hands-on' go at it. Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... let me sstart again, with the ps2 mouse. 1/ now I start in Normal, the mouse no where to be seen. Shut down the pc. 2/ Start in safe mode, after hitting ;safe mode' the system seems hang as the hour glass just appear at the centre of the screen. Hit 'enter' key, nothing happen, So have to push the power buttons to 'off' pc. 3/ Start in safe mode again(after hitting 'safe mode' get the 'ME' logo' and the message 'window is by passing the start up files' , {{which I did not get in (2)}} then scan disk 'c' After finish scanning, get the hour glass (like in 2) and hang there. Hit 'enter' nothing happen and looks like I have to push the button again. 4/ repeat (3) and get the same result. After finish scanning the 'c', ithang there. ((the hd was scan for virus using NAV 2005 and Adware witht he latest definitions)) what could be wrong and the ME cd has long gone in the bin. Any thing I can do next. Oddly why was it working before in the 'safe mode.' "Mart" wrote: .. it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. In NORMAL MODE? - What do you see in SAFE MODE? Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) In SAFE MODE? and let it detect In NORMAL MODE? and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? But, did you attempt to "Remove" ALL mouse/pointer devices in SAFE MODE? Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... I realised that there is a ps2 port, so I attached the ps2 mouse instead of the serial mouse and boot up under safe mode and the ps2 mouse works. However, it does not work under normal mode. Under the mouse, there is only 1 ps2 entry. Tried several times (each time delete the ps2 entry) and let it detect and the mouse works under safe mode BUT not in normal mode, why? In fact the mouse is no where to be seen. (move all over the place, but its playing hide and seek, no where to be seen... pls adv as obviously I need it to work in normal mode. thanks "Mart" wrote: Boot into Safe Mode (Ctrl or F8 keys at startup) and navigate to Device Manager (using the keyboard Tab and arrow keys etc.) Look for ANY/ALL mouse and pointing devices and "Remove" them. Shut down and reboot (into Normal Mode). WinMe should re-detect the serial mouse and install the drivers. BTW - you *might* find that the mouse actually works in Safe Mode. HTH Mart "twins2" wrote in message ... We have 2 similar aged P MMX pcs, one with 98se(1) and other with ME(2),. Both pc's used serial mouse and serial kb. PC (1) is working fine. (the pc's are not connected to each other) The ME pc broke down a while ago (hardware issue). So, I took out hd (1) and put in hd (2) that is with the ME into pc(!). It boots up ok but the mouse is no where to be seen while the kb seems to be ok as I was able to move the 'dot' when I press '+'/arrow sign. Pls advice how can I solve this problem, many thanks. When it rains, it never seems to stop...... |
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Decide what mouse you want to use and plug it in.
Boot into the BIOS - check for mouse-related items - set "reset configuration data" to Yes - set "PnP OS" to No - Save and Exit Boot into SafeMode - check DM and toss anything that has a "?" or "x" - if you have drivers for whatever mouse, install. Boot into Normal mode. You should have a mouse by this point but just in case... Ctrl-Alt-Esc opens the StartMenu; arrow and tab keys should enable you to Navigate through ControlPanel etc. without leaving the comfort of your keyboard Rick |
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