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Still trying to figure how to play videos
Larry wrote:
I thought we were talking about Flash 10? (Which seems to be required for at least some of the YouTube videos (?) Um, I initially mentioned Flash 9, and you brought up Flash 10 and said it was required, and I was showing to you that Flash 9 is the one that adobe says that older unsupported systems should use. Oh. OK, all I can tell you is that I was using Flash 9 not long ago, and when I went to the YouTube website, it had some message about needing to update my flash version, which I did, and after that there was no problem in seeing the video (this was on my WinXP system). So if Adobe doesn't explicitly state that Flash 10 is incompatible with Win98SE (e.g: it states that XP or Vista is required), and you still want to watch YouTube videos, I'd sure give it a try, preferably if you have a image or clone backup of your system, in case to you need to go back to Flash 9. (Or if Flash 10 doesn't work on Win98SE, you could try uninstalling it and reinstalling Flash 9). |
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Still trying to figure how to play videos
In message , Bill in Co.
writes: Larry wrote: I thought we were talking about Flash 10? (Which seems to be required for at least some of the YouTube videos (?) Um, I initially mentioned Flash 9, and you brought up Flash 10 and said it was required, and I was showing to you that Flash 9 is the one that adobe says that older unsupported systems should use. Oh. OK, all I can tell you is that I was using Flash 9 not long ago, and when I went to the YouTube website, it had some message about needing to update my flash version, which I did, and after that there was no problem in seeing the video (this was on my WinXP system). So if Adobe doesn't explicitly state that Flash 10 is incompatible with Win98SE (e.g: it states that XP or Vista is required), and you still want to watch YouTube videos, I'd sure give it a try, preferably if you have a image or clone backup of your system, in case to you need to go back to Flash 9. (Or if Flash 10 doesn't work on Win98SE, you could try uninstalling it and reinstalling Flash 9). And if: * YouTube videos (or at least some of them) DO require Flash10, AND * flash10 isn't compatible with '98, then your only option is to download them and play them in something else. To download them, you'd need to ignore any such error message when loading the page, and use a FireFox plugin that makes the downloading of YouTube videos easier. (I use DownloadHelper, but [a] I don't know if it works under '98 - I'm using XP, where it does, and [b] "other download helper plugins are available".) If you find you have to do this (and find a way of doing it that works), you still need to find something to play them with; VLC is pretty good and there are certainly versions that work on '98, though I'm not sure if the latest version does (anyone?). Note also that for a lot of YouTube videos nowadays, you'll get two options, the normal and an HD one, which are usually different formats (e. g. .mp4 and .flv), one or other [or both )-:] of which may or may not play in whatever player(s) you have. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** "I'm not against women. Not often enough, anyway." - Groucho Marx |
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Still trying to figure how to play videos
In message , Bill in Co.
writes: Larry wrote: I thought we were talking about Flash 10? (Which seems to be required for at least some of the YouTube videos (?) Um, I initially mentioned Flash 9, and you brought up Flash 10 and said it was required, and I was showing to you that Flash 9 is the one that adobe says that older unsupported systems should use. Oh. OK, all I can tell you is that I was using Flash 9 not long ago, and when I went to the YouTube website, it had some message about needing to update my flash version, which I did, and after that there was no problem in seeing the video (this was on my WinXP system). So if Adobe doesn't explicitly state that Flash 10 is incompatible with Win98SE (e.g: it states that XP or Vista is required), and you still want to watch YouTube videos, I'd sure give it a try, preferably if you have a image or clone backup of your system, in case to you need to go back to Flash 9. (Or if Flash 10 doesn't work on Win98SE, you could try uninstalling it and reinstalling Flash 9). And if: * YouTube videos (or at least some of them) DO require Flash10, AND * flash10 isn't compatible with '98, then your only option is to download them and play them in something else. To download them, you'd need to ignore any such error message when loading the page, and use a FireFox plugin that makes the downloading of YouTube videos easier. (I use DownloadHelper, but [a] I don't know if it works under '98 - I'm using XP, where it does, and [b] "other download helper plugins are available".) If you find you have to do this (and find a way of doing it that works), you still need to find something to play them with; VLC is pretty good and there are certainly versions that work on '98, though I'm not sure if the latest version does (anyone?). Note also that for a lot of YouTube videos nowadays, you'll get two options, the normal and an HD one, which are usually different formats (e. g. .mp4 and .flv), one or other [or both )-:] of which may or may not play in whatever player(s) you have. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** "I'm not against women. Not often enough, anyway." - Groucho Marx |
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Still trying to figure how to play videos
And if: * YouTube videos (or at least some of them) DO require Flash10, AND * flash10 isn't compatible with '98, then your only option is to download them and play them in something else. To download them, you'd need to ignore any such error message when loading the page, and use a FireFox plugin that makes the downloading of YouTube videos easier. (I use DownloadHelper, but [a] I don't know if it works under '98 - I'm using XP, where it does, and [b] "other download helper plugins are available".) If you find you have to do this (and find a way of doing it that works), you still need to find something to play them with; VLC is pretty good and there are certainly versions that work on '98, though I'm not sure if the latest version does (anyone?). Note also that for a lot of YouTube videos nowadays, you'll get two options, the normal and an HD one, which are usually different formats (e. g. .mp4 and .flv), one or other [or both )-:] of which may or may not play in whatever player(s) you have. Based on what you've said, it's just too complicated and not worth the trouble. Given all the folks who are still using W98, I figured there was a way of keeping W98 for internet use including videos. But if it takes all these extra steps, it's not worth it. Larry |
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Still trying to figure how to play videos
And if: * YouTube videos (or at least some of them) DO require Flash10, AND * flash10 isn't compatible with '98, then your only option is to download them and play them in something else. To download them, you'd need to ignore any such error message when loading the page, and use a FireFox plugin that makes the downloading of YouTube videos easier. (I use DownloadHelper, but [a] I don't know if it works under '98 - I'm using XP, where it does, and [b] "other download helper plugins are available".) If you find you have to do this (and find a way of doing it that works), you still need to find something to play them with; VLC is pretty good and there are certainly versions that work on '98, though I'm not sure if the latest version does (anyone?). Note also that for a lot of YouTube videos nowadays, you'll get two options, the normal and an HD one, which are usually different formats (e. g. .mp4 and .flv), one or other [or both )-:] of which may or may not play in whatever player(s) you have. Based on what you've said, it's just too complicated and not worth the trouble. Given all the folks who are still using W98, I figured there was a way of keeping W98 for internet use including videos. But if it takes all these extra steps, it's not worth it. Larry |
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Still trying to figure how to play videos
Larry wrote:
And if: * YouTube videos (or at least some of them) DO require Flash10, AND * flash10 isn't compatible with '98, then your only option is to download them and play them in something else. To download them, you'd need to ignore any such error message when loading the page, and use a FireFox plugin that makes the downloading of YouTube videos easier. (I use DownloadHelper, but [a] I don't know if it works under '98 - I'm using XP, where it does, and [b] "other download helper plugins are available".) If you find you have to do this (and find a way of doing it that works), you still need to find something to play them with; VLC is pretty good and there are certainly versions that work on '98, though I'm not sure if the latest version does (anyone?). Note also that for a lot of YouTube videos nowadays, you'll get two options, the normal and an HD one, which are usually different formats (e. g. .mp4 and .flv), one or other [or both )-:] of which may or may not play in whatever player(s) you have. Based on what you've said, it's just too complicated and not worth the trouble. Given all the folks who are still using W98, I figured there was a way of keeping W98 for internet use including videos. But if it takes all these extra steps, it's not worth it. Larry Did you ever even try installing Flash 10 on your system? Maybe someone else here already has, and can report back on it if you're afraid to try it out. |
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Still trying to figure how to play videos
Larry wrote:
And if: * YouTube videos (or at least some of them) DO require Flash10, AND * flash10 isn't compatible with '98, then your only option is to download them and play them in something else. To download them, you'd need to ignore any such error message when loading the page, and use a FireFox plugin that makes the downloading of YouTube videos easier. (I use DownloadHelper, but [a] I don't know if it works under '98 - I'm using XP, where it does, and [b] "other download helper plugins are available".) If you find you have to do this (and find a way of doing it that works), you still need to find something to play them with; VLC is pretty good and there are certainly versions that work on '98, though I'm not sure if the latest version does (anyone?). Note also that for a lot of YouTube videos nowadays, you'll get two options, the normal and an HD one, which are usually different formats (e. g. .mp4 and .flv), one or other [or both )-:] of which may or may not play in whatever player(s) you have. Based on what you've said, it's just too complicated and not worth the trouble. Given all the folks who are still using W98, I figured there was a way of keeping W98 for internet use including videos. But if it takes all these extra steps, it's not worth it. Larry Did you ever even try installing Flash 10 on your system? Maybe someone else here already has, and can report back on it if you're afraid to try it out. |
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Still trying to figure how to play videos
I wrote:
Based on what you've said, it's just too complicated and not worth the trouble. Wait, I gave in too quickly. I just realized, I did get youtube to work on my W98 on my laptop in the VMware machine. It's a weird situation. I have two systems, my old W98 desktop, and my new XP laptop with W98 on a VMware machine. As discussed in another thread, I don't have sound working in my virtual W98. But somehow in the last day or two, I installed Flash 9 (in Add/Remove it displays as Adobe Flash Player ACtiveX), and the Youtubes are playing but with no sound. Meanwhile, on my old W98 desktop, I have sound, but I can't get Youtubes to play. I have installed the same Adobe flash player ACtive X in the Add/Remove, but when I go to youtube page, it tells me I need a higher version of Flash Player. "Larry" wrote in message ... And if: * YouTube videos (or at least some of them) DO require Flash10, AND * flash10 isn't compatible with '98, then your only option is to download them and play them in something else. To download them, you'd need to ignore any such error message when loading the page, and use a FireFox plugin that makes the downloading of YouTube videos easier. (I use DownloadHelper, but [a] I don't know if it works under '98 - I'm using XP, where it does, and [b] "other download helper plugins are available".) If you find you have to do this (and find a way of doing it that works), you still need to find something to play them with; VLC is pretty good and there are certainly versions that work on '98, though I'm not sure if the latest version does (anyone?). Note also that for a lot of YouTube videos nowadays, you'll get two options, the normal and an HD one, which are usually different formats (e. g. .mp4 and .flv), one or other [or both )-:] of which may or may not play in whatever player(s) you have. Based on what you've said, it's just too complicated and not worth the trouble. Given all the folks who are still using W98, I figured there was a way of keeping W98 for internet use including videos. But if it takes all these extra steps, it's not worth it. Larry |
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Still trying to figure how to play videos
I wrote:
Based on what you've said, it's just too complicated and not worth the trouble. Wait, I gave in too quickly. I just realized, I did get youtube to work on my W98 on my laptop in the VMware machine. It's a weird situation. I have two systems, my old W98 desktop, and my new XP laptop with W98 on a VMware machine. As discussed in another thread, I don't have sound working in my virtual W98. But somehow in the last day or two, I installed Flash 9 (in Add/Remove it displays as Adobe Flash Player ACtiveX), and the Youtubes are playing but with no sound. Meanwhile, on my old W98 desktop, I have sound, but I can't get Youtubes to play. I have installed the same Adobe flash player ACtive X in the Add/Remove, but when I go to youtube page, it tells me I need a higher version of Flash Player. "Larry" wrote in message ... And if: * YouTube videos (or at least some of them) DO require Flash10, AND * flash10 isn't compatible with '98, then your only option is to download them and play them in something else. To download them, you'd need to ignore any such error message when loading the page, and use a FireFox plugin that makes the downloading of YouTube videos easier. (I use DownloadHelper, but [a] I don't know if it works under '98 - I'm using XP, where it does, and [b] "other download helper plugins are available".) If you find you have to do this (and find a way of doing it that works), you still need to find something to play them with; VLC is pretty good and there are certainly versions that work on '98, though I'm not sure if the latest version does (anyone?). Note also that for a lot of YouTube videos nowadays, you'll get two options, the normal and an HD one, which are usually different formats (e. g. .mp4 and .flv), one or other [or both )-:] of which may or may not play in whatever player(s) you have. Based on what you've said, it's just too complicated and not worth the trouble. Given all the folks who are still using W98, I figured there was a way of keeping W98 for internet use including videos. But if it takes all these extra steps, it's not worth it. Larry |
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