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Old July 3rd 04, 08:22 PM
seth
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Default 2nd HD not accessible

I have installed a second hard drive into the computer.
The BIOS recognizes the hard drive as the Primary Slave.

In the BIOS everything looks fine. It lists the Primary
Master HD and the Primary Slave HD.

However, when Windows loads the slave drive is not listed
in My Computer. Of course, the master drive is in My
Computer. What is wrong with the hard drive?
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Old July 3rd 04, 08:52 PM
AlmostBob
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Default 2nd HD not accessible

after installing the actual drive, the drive must be partitioned and
formatted before Windows will see it, until then it will not appear
Boot to DOS, run Fdisk select the new drive (option 5 to set drive) and create
partition(s) then format the new partitions and windows should see the new
drives

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"seth" wrote in message
...
| I have installed a second hard drive into the computer.
| The BIOS recognizes the hard drive as the Primary Slave.
|
| In the BIOS everything looks fine. It lists the Primary
| Master HD and the Primary Slave HD.
|
| However, when Windows loads the slave drive is not listed
| in My Computer. Of course, the master drive is in My
| Computer. What is wrong with the hard drive?


  #3  
Old July 3rd 04, 09:48 PM
seth
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Default 2nd HD not accessible

Okay, the 2nd HD did not come out of a box. It is not a
brand new, unformatted HD. It came from another computer.
The HD has already been formatted and even has data on the
drive.

Do I still need to format the drive?


-----Original Message-----
after installing the actual drive, the drive must be

partitioned and
formatted before Windows will see it, until then it will

not appear
Boot to DOS, run Fdisk select the new drive (option 5 to

set drive) and create
partition(s) then format the new partitions and windows

should see the new
drives

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"seth" wrote in

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...
| I have installed a second hard drive into the computer.
| The BIOS recognizes the hard drive as the Primary Slave.
|
| In the BIOS everything looks fine. It lists the Primary
| Master HD and the Primary Slave HD.
|
| However, when Windows loads the slave drive is not

listed
| in My Computer. Of course, the master drive is in My
| Computer. What is wrong with the hard drive?


.

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Old July 3rd 04, 09:59 PM
Brian A.
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Default 2nd HD not accessible

Did you connect it correctly on the ribbon cable? Are you using a 80 =
wire-40 pin connector if required? Did you set the jumpers correctly for =
Master and Slave? Are you using Cable Select on either? Did you =
fdisk/format properly? What shows in Device Manager? Many questions that =
need many answers. Please provide a more accurate description of =
what/how you performed the installation.



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One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn.


"seth" wrote in message =
...
I have installed a second hard drive into the computer.=20
The BIOS recognizes the hard drive as the Primary Slave.
=20
In the BIOS everything looks fine. It lists the Primary=20
Master HD and the Primary Slave HD.
=20
However, when Windows loads the slave drive is not listed=20
in My Computer. Of course, the master drive is in My=20
Computer. What is wrong with the hard drive?

  #5  
Old July 3rd 04, 10:44 PM
AlmostBob
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Default 2nd HD not accessible

you may have to go to the drive makers website and download the right overlay
software for the drive, so that the pc can read the drive

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"seth" wrote in message
...
| Okay, the 2nd HD did not come out of a box. It is not a
| brand new, unformatted HD. It came from another computer.
| The HD has already been formatted and even has data on the
| drive.
|
| Do I still need to format the drive?
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| after installing the actual drive, the drive must be
| partitioned and
| formatted before Windows will see it, until then it will
| not appear
| Boot to DOS, run Fdisk select the new drive (option 5 to
| set drive) and create
| partition(s) then format the new partitions and windows
| should see the new
| drives
|
| --
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| spybot http://security.kolla.de
| AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
| Panda online AntiVirus scan
| http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
| Catalog of removal tools
| http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
| Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
| http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
| links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on
| the pages before use
| Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
|
| "seth" wrote in
| message
| ...
| | I have installed a second hard drive into the computer.
| | The BIOS recognizes the hard drive as the Primary Slave.
| |
| | In the BIOS everything looks fine. It lists the Primary
| | Master HD and the Primary Slave HD.
| |
| | However, when Windows loads the slave drive is not
| listed
| | in My Computer. Of course, the master drive is in My
| | Computer. What is wrong with the hard drive?
|
|
| .
|


  #6  
Old July 4th 04, 03:22 AM
seth
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Default 2nd HD not accessible

Okay guys, lets see if i can make this easy to understand.

I took a HD out of Computer A. I disconnected power and
cable.

I place HD in Computer B making sure to pay attention to
the jumper settings. I have correctly set the jumpers so
the HD is a slave drive. The BIOS picks up on this
correctly and lists the master and slave drives correctly.

After Windows loads, I have gone into Device Manager like
Brian suggested to check out what it had to say. Device
Manager lists the HD as GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE02. So Device
Manager lists the HD but does not list it as Maxtor, which
is the manufacturer. However, My Computer does not list
the HD, so I cannot access the drive through Windows.

I don't know if this matters, but in Device Manager the
primary drive is listed as GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01.

For AlmostBob, what is overlay software?

I hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
Did you connect it correctly on the ribbon cable? Are

you using a 80 wire-40 pin connector if required? Did you
set the jumpers correctly for Master and Slave? Are you
using Cable Select on either? Did you fdisk/format
properly? What shows in Device Manager? Many questions
that need many answers. Please provide a more accurate
description of what/how you performed the installation.



Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more

to learn.


"seth" wrote in

message ...
I have installed a second hard drive into the computer.
The BIOS recognizes the hard drive as the Primary Slave.

In the BIOS everything looks fine. It lists the Primary
Master HD and the Primary Slave HD.

However, when Windows loads the slave drive is not

listed
in My Computer. Of course, the master drive is in My
Computer. What is wrong with the hard drive?

.

  #7  
Old July 4th 04, 06:28 AM
Brian A.
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Default 2nd HD not accessible

Ok, let's see now. The BIOS recognizes it and Windows doesn't, at least =
in MyComputer.=20
1 or 2 more Q&A's. What is the Make/Model/Capacity of each drive?
Do they show correctly in the BIOS as to Q1?
Did the drive in comp B show correctly as to Q1 in Device Manager =
before you added the 2nd drive?
What shows when you run fdisk /status from a command prompt?

--=20
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn.


"seth" wrote in message =
...
Okay guys, lets see if i can make this easy to understand.
=20
I took a HD out of Computer A. I disconnected power and=20
cable.
=20
I place HD in Computer B making sure to pay attention to=20
the jumper settings. I have correctly set the jumpers so=20
the HD is a slave drive. The BIOS picks up on this=20
correctly and lists the master and slave drives correctly.
=20
After Windows loads, I have gone into Device Manager like=20
Brian suggested to check out what it had to say. Device=20
Manager lists the HD as GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE02. So Device=20
Manager lists the HD but does not list it as Maxtor, which=20
is the manufacturer. However, My Computer does not list=20
the HD, so I cannot access the drive through Windows.
=20
I don't know if this matters, but in Device Manager the=20
primary drive is listed as GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01.
=20
For AlmostBob, what is overlay software?
=20
I hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
Did you connect it correctly on the ribbon cable? Are=20

you using a 80 wire-40 pin connector if required? Did you=20
set the jumpers correctly for Master and Slave? Are you=20
using Cable Select on either? Did you fdisk/format=20
properly? What shows in Device Manager? Many questions=20
that need many answers. Please provide a more accurate=20
description of what/how you performed the installation.



Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more=20

to learn.


"seth" wrote in=20

message ...
I have installed a second hard drive into the computer.=20
The BIOS recognizes the hard drive as the Primary Slave.
=20
In the BIOS everything looks fine. It lists the Primary=20
Master HD and the Primary Slave HD.
=20
However, when Windows loads the slave drive is not=20

listed=20
in My Computer. Of course, the master drive is in My=20
Computer. What is wrong with the hard drive?

.

  #8  
Old July 4th 04, 03:15 PM
AlmostBob
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Default 2nd HD not accessible

Old motherboards, old BIOSs (old in computer years like dogyears *10) have/had
a limit on the size and specification(tracks sectors platters) of the drive
that they could see, drive manufacturers produce software to overlay the BIOS
to enable the pc to see really large drives, hence 'drive overlay' software,
many large drives come with a software disk that installs the overlays
automatically, if the drive is in the PC when purchased the overlay is
installed in the shop, either way the user may not know it is there till
something like this happens and the drive isnt working. and its easy to check
for.

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links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters

"seth" wrote in message
...
| Okay guys, lets see if i can make this easy to understand.
|
| I took a HD out of Computer A. I disconnected power and
| cable.
|
| I place HD in Computer B making sure to pay attention to
| the jumper settings. I have correctly set the jumpers so
| the HD is a slave drive. The BIOS picks up on this
| correctly and lists the master and slave drives correctly.
|
| After Windows loads, I have gone into Device Manager like
| Brian suggested to check out what it had to say. Device
| Manager lists the HD as GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE02. So Device
| Manager lists the HD but does not list it as Maxtor, which
| is the manufacturer. However, My Computer does not list
| the HD, so I cannot access the drive through Windows.
|
| I don't know if this matters, but in Device Manager the
| primary drive is listed as GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01.
|
| For AlmostBob, what is overlay software?
|
| I hope this helps.
| -----Original Message-----
| Did you connect it correctly on the ribbon cable? Are
| you using a 80 wire-40 pin connector if required? Did you
| set the jumpers correctly for Master and Slave? Are you
| using Cable Select on either? Did you fdisk/format
| properly? What shows in Device Manager? Many questions
| that need many answers. Please provide a more accurate
| description of what/how you performed the installation.
|
|
|
| Jack of all trades, Master of none.
| One can never truly be a master as there is always more
| to learn.
|
|
| "seth" wrote in
| message ...
| I have installed a second hard drive into the computer.
| The BIOS recognizes the hard drive as the Primary Slave.
|
| In the BIOS everything looks fine. It lists the Primary
| Master HD and the Primary Slave HD.
|
| However, when Windows loads the slave drive is not
| listed
| in My Computer. Of course, the master drive is in My
| Computer. What is wrong with the hard drive?
| .
|


  #9  
Old July 5th 04, 11:35 AM
seth
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Default 2nd HD not accessible

Okay, problem solved. Apparently, under Win98, you can't
view drives that use NTFS. Does that seem about right?

I plugged the HD into another computer that has XP and it
recognizes the drive just fine, the correct size and
everything.

thanks for the responses
-----Original Message-----
Ok, let's see now. The BIOS recognizes it and Windows

doesn't, at least in MyComputer.
1 or 2 more Q&A's. What is the Make/Model/Capacity of

each drive?
Do they show correctly in the BIOS as to Q1?
Did the drive in comp B show correctly as to Q1 in

Device Manager before you added the 2nd drive?
What shows when you run fdisk /status from a command

prompt?

--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more

to learn.


"seth" wrote in

message ...
Okay guys, lets see if i can make this easy to

understand.

I took a HD out of Computer A. I disconnected power and
cable.

I place HD in Computer B making sure to pay attention

to
the jumper settings. I have correctly set the jumpers

so
the HD is a slave drive. The BIOS picks up on this
correctly and lists the master and slave drives

correctly.

After Windows loads, I have gone into Device Manager

like
Brian suggested to check out what it had to say. Device
Manager lists the HD as GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE02. So

Device
Manager lists the HD but does not list it as Maxtor,

which
is the manufacturer. However, My Computer does not list
the HD, so I cannot access the drive through Windows.

I don't know if this matters, but in Device Manager the
primary drive is listed as GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01.

For AlmostBob, what is overlay software?

I hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
Did you connect it correctly on the ribbon cable? Are

you using a 80 wire-40 pin connector if required? Did

you
set the jumpers correctly for Master and Slave? Are you
using Cable Select on either? Did you fdisk/format
properly? What shows in Device Manager? Many questions
that need many answers. Please provide a more accurate
description of what/how you performed the installation.



Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always

more
to learn.


"seth" wrote in

message ...
I have installed a second hard drive into the

computer.
The BIOS recognizes the hard drive as the Primary

Slave.

In the BIOS everything looks fine. It lists the

Primary
Master HD and the Primary Slave HD.

However, when Windows loads the slave drive is not

listed
in My Computer. Of course, the master drive is in My
Computer. What is wrong with the hard drive?
.

.

  #10  
Old July 5th 04, 02:37 PM
AlmostBob
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Default 2nd HD not accessible

thats right, the ntfs doesnt run under win 98, except with a different kind of
overlay software, like paragon
http://www.xkee.com/utility/paragon-ntfs-for-win98/ never used any ntfs
overlays, but the utility above will let you read it if you need to save the
data, if the drive is going to be permanently fitted to the win98 machine save
the data, the reformat to fat32

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Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters

"seth" wrote in message
...
| Okay, problem solved. Apparently, under Win98, you can't
| view drives that use NTFS. Does that seem about right?
|
| I plugged the HD into another computer that has XP and it
| recognizes the drive just fine, the correct size and
| everything.
|
| thanks for the responses
| -----Original Message-----
| Ok, let's see now. The BIOS recognizes it and Windows
| doesn't, at least in MyComputer.
| 1 or 2 more Q&A's. What is the Make/Model/Capacity of
| each drive?
| Do they show correctly in the BIOS as to Q1?
| Did the drive in comp B show correctly as to Q1 in
| Device Manager before you added the 2nd drive?
| What shows when you run fdisk /status from a command
| prompt?
|
| --
| Brian A.
|
| Jack of all trades, Master of none.
| One can never truly be a master as there is always more
| to learn.
|
|
| "seth" wrote in
| message ...
| Okay guys, lets see if i can make this easy to
| understand.
|
| I took a HD out of Computer A. I disconnected power and
| cable.
|
| I place HD in Computer B making sure to pay attention
| to
| the jumper settings. I have correctly set the jumpers
| so
| the HD is a slave drive. The BIOS picks up on this
| correctly and lists the master and slave drives
| correctly.
|
| After Windows loads, I have gone into Device Manager
| like
| Brian suggested to check out what it had to say. Device
| Manager lists the HD as GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE02. So
| Device
| Manager lists the HD but does not list it as Maxtor,
| which
| is the manufacturer. However, My Computer does not list
| the HD, so I cannot access the drive through Windows.
|
| I don't know if this matters, but in Device Manager the
| primary drive is listed as GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01.
|
| For AlmostBob, what is overlay software?
|
| I hope this helps.
| -----Original Message-----
| Did you connect it correctly on the ribbon cable? Are
| you using a 80 wire-40 pin connector if required? Did
| you
| set the jumpers correctly for Master and Slave? Are you
| using Cable Select on either? Did you fdisk/format
| properly? What shows in Device Manager? Many questions
| that need many answers. Please provide a more accurate
| description of what/how you performed the installation.
|
|
|
| Jack of all trades, Master of none.
| One can never truly be a master as there is always
| more
| to learn.
|
|
| "seth" wrote in
| message ...
| I have installed a second hard drive into the
| computer.
| The BIOS recognizes the hard drive as the Primary
| Slave.
|
| In the BIOS everything looks fine. It lists the
| Primary
| Master HD and the Primary Slave HD.
|
| However, when Windows loads the slave drive is not
| listed
| in My Computer. Of course, the master drive is in My
| Computer. What is wrong with the hard drive?
| .
|
| .
|


 




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