explorer "invalid page fault"

"PCR" wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote:
| Hi, it's me AGAIN. Sigh.
|
| Everything is just great but I am getting the following
| error (not a BIG deal - all the tray icons disappear but
| everything works unless I try to start a new program - and
| it used to happen with the previous install as well...).

Did you do a fresh install? Is this a full Win98SE now?

I tried the full 98SE but it was just ridiculous, it took about
3 tries to get it installed. I could NOT believe it.

Once it was installed, I found the shell intolerable (see reply
to Evan). So I wiped C and installed 98SELite which was like
spreading butter on a scone.

Icons can disappear from the tray after Explorer is
end-tasked, for instance from the Ctlr-Alt-Del Close
Program box.

WHY would I ever do that? AFAIK, it and systray HAVE to be
running!

Explorer immediately restarts, everything else
continues to run-- but fewer icons will appear in the Tray.
I believe the same effect can be seen after a
log-off/log-on using the START button.

I use SSWT, a screen saver-shut off utility.

It's possible "Windows Make-Up" was unable to re-establish
its hook to Explorer, but that explorer originally crashed
for a different reason. What is the last thing you did
before the error happened? Anything to do with a "file
open" box?

No.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/275543
How to troubleshoot the "invalid page fault" error message

Read it, useless - although MANY of their articles HAVE helped
me, as much as I hate to admit it.

Anything in that article ring a bell? How about
these...?...

http://support.microsoft.com/search/...px?mode=r&quer
y=EXPLORER+caused+an+invalid+page+fault+in+module+ unknown&sp
id=global&catalog=LCID%3D1033&1033comm=1&res=20

That's everything the MSKB has for "EXPLORER caused an
invalid page fault in module unknown". Do any of them also
state a symptom you've experienced?

Of course not. The hell I go through is my very own, copyrighted
and dongled, private computer hell, Grade A US and ISO-9666
certified.

But since I deleted WMU, so far so good.

Hey
what happened to all your lost partitions?
Did you get them back????

"thanatoid" wrote in message
...

In spite of the /rather wide/ variety of helpfulness of replies,
even for these groups, yes.

This is the copy of the relevant part of the reply to the most
helpful person: . . . [ snip] . . .
*****BUT it led me (I can't remember how, a suggestion on a
software site for "similar programs" I think, to "TestDisk", a
tiny French marvel which solved the problem in 2 minutes.*****

WHY can't ALL programs be like that? (Rhetorical cry of
despair.)

So why keep the web site address your secret?

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

Hey
what happened to all your lost partitions?
Did you get them back????

"thanatoid" wrote in message
...

In spite of the /rather wide/ variety of helpfulness of replies,
even for these groups, yes.

This is the copy of the relevant part of the reply to the most
helpful person: . . . [ snip] . . .
*****BUT it led me (I can't remember how, a suggestion on a
software site for "similar programs" I think, to "TestDisk", a
tiny French marvel which solved the problem in 2 minutes.*****

WHY can't ALL programs be like that? (Rhetorical cry of
despair.)

So why keep the web site address your secret?

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

"thanatoid" wrote in message
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"philo" wrote in
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"thanatoid" wrote in message
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Hi, it's me AGAIN. Sigh.

Hey

what happened to all your lost partitions?

Did you get them back????

In spite of the /rather wide/ variety of helpfulness of replies,
even for these groups, yes.

This is the copy of the relevant part of the reply to the most
helpful person:

+++++++++++++

I use MBRTOOL to view my MBR:
http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/mbrtool.htm

Will DL it now.

I did. It was too hairy for me - I never studied computer
science so certain things are just beyond me.

Good news, though:

*****BUT it led me (I can't remember how, a suggestion on a
software site for "similar programs" I think, to "TestDisk", a
tiny French marvel which solved the problem in 2 minutes.*****

WHY can't ALL programs be like that? (Rhetorical cry of
despair.)

+++++++++++++

So everything's just peachy. For now, anyway. SIGH.


Thank you

I am going to download Test Disk as I may need it someday!!!!

"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
"philo" wrote in
:


"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
Hi, it's me AGAIN. Sigh.

Hey

what happened to all your lost partitions?

Did you get them back????

In spite of the /rather wide/ variety of helpfulness of replies,
even for these groups, yes.

This is the copy of the relevant part of the reply to the most
helpful person:

+++++++++++++

I use MBRTOOL to view my MBR:
http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/mbrtool.htm

Will DL it now.

I did. It was too hairy for me - I never studied computer
science so certain things are just beyond me.

Good news, though:

*****BUT it led me (I can't remember how, a suggestion on a
software site for "similar programs" I think, to "TestDisk", a
tiny French marvel which solved the problem in 2 minutes.*****

WHY can't ALL programs be like that? (Rhetorical cry of
despair.)

+++++++++++++

So everything's just peachy. For now, anyway. SIGH.


Thank you

I am going to download Test Disk as I may need it someday!!!!

"Don Phillipson" wrote in
:

SNIP

*****BUT it led me (I can't remember how, a suggestion on
a software site for "similar programs" I think, to
"TestDisk", a tiny French marvel which solved the problem
in 2 minutes.*****

WHY can't ALL programs be like that? (Rhetorical cry of
despair.)

So why keep the web site address your secret?

If you mean one of many places where you can get TestDisk, ever
heard of Google?

"Don Phillipson" wrote in
:

SNIP

*****BUT it led me (I can't remember how, a suggestion on
a software site for "similar programs" I think, to
"TestDisk", a tiny French marvel which solved the problem
in 2 minutes.*****

WHY can't ALL programs be like that? (Rhetorical cry of
despair.)

So why keep the web site address your secret?

If you mean one of many places where you can get TestDisk, ever
heard of Google?

IF you might have done a search for the IS TNT error, you might have found
it relates to older programs written around the Detonator or older era of
NVidia's drivers [newer versions do not have that particular entry and
changed registry locations as well {causing additional errors}], and
programs searching for it. At one time I could have provided the registry
entries needed manually placed, but that information was archived years ago
,,, somewhere,,,
Might still be somewhere via a search though...

--
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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government
_______



"thanatoid" wrote in message
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"PCR" wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote:
| Hi, it's me AGAIN. Sigh.
|
| Everything is just great but I am getting the following
| error (not a BIG deal - all the tray icons disappear but
| everything works unless I try to start a new program - and
| it used to happen with the previous install as well...).

Did you do a fresh install? Is this a full Win98SE now?

I tried the full 98SE but it was just ridiculous, it took about
3 tries to get it installed. I could NOT believe it.

Once it was installed, I found the shell intolerable (see reply
to Evan). So I wiped C and installed 98SELite which was like
spreading butter on a scone.

Icons can disappear from the tray after Explorer is
end-tasked, for instance from the Ctlr-Alt-Del Close
Program box.

WHY would I ever do that? AFAIK, it and systray HAVE to be
running!

Explorer immediately restarts, everything else
continues to run-- but fewer icons will appear in the Tray.
I believe the same effect can be seen after a
log-off/log-on using the START button.

I use SSWT, a screen saver-shut off utility.

It's possible "Windows Make-Up" was unable to re-establish
its hook to Explorer, but that explorer originally crashed
for a different reason. What is the last thing you did
before the error happened? Anything to do with a "file
open" box?

No.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/275543
How to troubleshoot the "invalid page fault" error message

Read it, useless - although MANY of their articles HAVE helped
me, as much as I hate to admit it.

Anything in that article ring a bell? How about
these...?...

http://support.microsoft.com/search/...px?mode=r&quer
y=EXPLORER+caused+an+invalid+page+fault+in+module+ unknown&sp
id=global&catalog=LCID%3D1033&1033comm=1&res=20

That's everything the MSKB has for "EXPLORER caused an
invalid page fault in module unknown". Do any of them also
state a symptom you've experienced?

Of course not. The hell I go through is my very own, copyrighted
and dongled, private computer hell, Grade A US and ISO-9666
certified.

But since I deleted WMU, so far so good.

IF you might have done a search for the IS TNT error, you might have found
it relates to older programs written around the Detonator or older era of
NVidia's drivers [newer versions do not have that particular entry and
changed registry locations as well {causing additional errors}], and
programs searching for it. At one time I could have provided the registry
entries needed manually placed, but that information was archived years ago
,,, somewhere,,,
Might still be somewhere via a search though...

--
~
--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government
_______



"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
"PCR" wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote:
| Hi, it's me AGAIN. Sigh.
|
| Everything is just great but I am getting the following
| error (not a BIG deal - all the tray icons disappear but
| everything works unless I try to start a new program - and
| it used to happen with the previous install as well...).

Did you do a fresh install? Is this a full Win98SE now?

I tried the full 98SE but it was just ridiculous, it took about
3 tries to get it installed. I could NOT believe it.

Once it was installed, I found the shell intolerable (see reply
to Evan). So I wiped C and installed 98SELite which was like
spreading butter on a scone.

Icons can disappear from the tray after Explorer is
end-tasked, for instance from the Ctlr-Alt-Del Close
Program box.

WHY would I ever do that? AFAIK, it and systray HAVE to be
running!

Explorer immediately restarts, everything else
continues to run-- but fewer icons will appear in the Tray.
I believe the same effect can be seen after a
log-off/log-on using the START button.

I use SSWT, a screen saver-shut off utility.

It's possible "Windows Make-Up" was unable to re-establish
its hook to Explorer, but that explorer originally crashed
for a different reason. What is the last thing you did
before the error happened? Anything to do with a "file
open" box?

No.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/275543
How to troubleshoot the "invalid page fault" error message

Read it, useless - although MANY of their articles HAVE helped
me, as much as I hate to admit it.

Anything in that article ring a bell? How about
these...?...

http://support.microsoft.com/search/...px?mode=r&quer
y=EXPLORER+caused+an+invalid+page+fault+in+module+ unknown&sp
id=global&catalog=LCID%3D1033&1033comm=1&res=20

That's everything the MSKB has for "EXPLORER caused an
invalid page fault in module unknown". Do any of them also
state a symptom you've experienced?

Of course not. The hell I go through is my very own, copyrighted
and dongled, private computer hell, Grade A US and ISO-9666
certified.

But since I deleted WMU, so far so good.

thanatoid wrote:
| "PCR" wrote in
| :
|
| thanatoid wrote:
|| Hi, it's me AGAIN. Sigh.
||
|| Everything is just great but I am getting the following
|| error (not a BIG deal - all the tray icons disappear but
|| everything works unless I try to start a new program - and
|| it used to happen with the previous install as well...).
|
| Did you do a fresh install? Is this a full Win98SE now?
|
| I tried the full 98SE but it was just ridiculous, it took about
| 3 tries to get it installed. I could NOT believe it.
|
| Once it was installed, I found the shell intolerable (see reply
| to Evan). So I wiped C and installed 98SELite which was like
| spreading butter on a scone.

If thats good enough for you, well, fine, BUT I wish you posted about it
first. We could have pared down your Startup Group & had you do a
Scandisk/Defrag, maybe. One thing for sure to discontinue is that Task
Scheduler, which could have been trying to do an auto-Scandisk/Defrag
among other things in the background.

| Icons can disappear from the tray after Explorer is
| end-tasked, for instance from the Ctlr-Alt-Del Close
| Program box.
|
| WHY would I ever do that? AFAIK, it and systray HAVE to be
| running!

SysTray can be eliminated by refusing to start applications that use it,
but most like to keep it. Explorer possibly can be eliminated by
changing to a different shell in System.ini, [boot] section-- but you
lose a good deal of functionality, including the START button!

No, I meant to say, Explorer could have crashed on its own & restarted.
That would explain fewer icons in the Tray.

| Explorer immediately restarts, everything else
| continues to run-- but fewer icons will appear in the Tray.
| I believe the same effect can be seen after a
| log-off/log-on using the START button.
|
| I use SSWT, a screen saver-shut off utility.

I never Log on/off, either, but just use the default.

| It's possible "Windows Make-Up" was unable to re-establish
| its hook to Explorer, but that explorer originally crashed
| for a different reason. What is the last thing you did
| before the error happened? Anything to do with a "file
| open" box?
|
| No.

Uh-huh.

| http://support.microsoft.com/kb/275543
| How to troubleshoot the "invalid page fault" error message
|
| Read it, useless - although MANY of their articles HAVE helped
| me, as much as I hate to admit it.

I was hoping you'd find some other problem among those write-ups that
also applied. Then, by curing it, hopefully your own peculiarity would
go away as well.

| Anything in that article ring a bell? How about
| these...?...
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/search/...px?mode=r&quer
| y=EXPLORER+caused+an+invalid+page+fault+in+module+ unknown&sp
| id=global&catalog=LCID%3D1033&1033comm=1&res=20
|
| That's everything the MSKB has for "EXPLORER caused an
| invalid page fault in module unknown". Do any of them also
| state a symptom you've experienced?
|
| Of course not. The hell I go through is my very own, copyrighted
| and dongled, private computer hell, Grade A US and ISO-9666
| certified.
|
| But since I deleted WMU, so far so good.

Alright. I wanted to rule that out, but fine. I see MEB speaks of a way
to make it work, if you want it back. Hypnosis may improve his memory--
but don't make him quack like a duck!


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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR