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webster72n wrote:
Rick: Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are they, for example? Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any. I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC), for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp (normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they update it. I doubt you'd have one and not know it. Rick Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: "Rick T" wrote in message ... heirloom wrote: Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that. Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on the server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server. Does that make sense?......I know I am confused! Heirloom, old and speculating me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed). That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too much space. OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom). Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail program functionality. No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if I am putting this correctly. When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let it 'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences. Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'. Thank you for your concern, Rick. Harry. Well, hope you got it worked out. Rick |
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Rick:
Is 'Pegasus' one of them? I used that program for awhile in the past, but have uninstalled it since. Otherwise the situation you describe doesn't pertain to me. Tanks. Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Rick: Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are they, for example? Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any. I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC), for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp (normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they update it. I doubt you'd have one and not know it. Rick Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: "Rick T" wrote in message ... heirloom wrote: Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that. Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on the server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server. Does that make sense?......I know I am confused! Heirloom, old and speculating me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed). That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too much space. OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom). Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail program functionality. No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if I am putting this correctly. When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let it 'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences. Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'. Thank you for your concern, Rick. Harry. Well, hope you got it worked out. Rick |
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One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick: Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs, both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled I can't click on them in order to make them default. Why is that? Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Rick: Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are they, for example? Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any. I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC), for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp (normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they update it. I doubt you'd have one and not know it. Rick Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: "Rick T" wrote in message ... heirloom wrote: Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that. Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on the server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server. Does that make sense?......I know I am confused! Heirloom, old and speculating me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed). That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too much space. OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom). Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail program functionality. No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if I am putting this correctly. When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let it 'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences. Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'. Thank you for your concern, Rick. Harry. Well, hope you got it worked out. Rick |
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Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't. Rick webster72n wrote: One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick: Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs, both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled I can't click on them in order to make them default. Why is that? Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Rick: Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are they, for example? Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any. I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC), for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp (normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they update it. I doubt you'd have one and not know it. Rick Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: "Rick T" wrote in message . .. heirloom wrote: Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that. Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on the server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server. Does that make sense?......I know I am confused! Heirloom, old and speculating me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed). That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too much space. OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom). Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail program functionality. No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if I am putting this correctly. When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let it 'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences. Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'. Thank you for your concern, Rick. Harry. Well, hope you got it worked out. Rick |
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Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided. But what about the 'mailhandler' issue? Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled? And, if so, why are they there? Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't. Rick webster72n wrote: One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick: Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs, both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled I can't click on them in order to make them default. Why is that? Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Rick: Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are they, for example? Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any. I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC), for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp (normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they update it. I doubt you'd have one and not know it. Rick Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: "Rick T" wrote in message . .. heirloom wrote: Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that. Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on the server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server. Does that make sense?......I know I am confused! Heirloom, old and speculating me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed). That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too much space. OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom). Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail program functionality. No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if I am putting this correctly. When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let it 'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences. Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'. Thank you for your concern, Rick. Harry. Well, hope you got it worked out. Rick |
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Please refer to the first line of my previous post.
Possibly a reference to MSN messenger? or maybe a stub for one of the webmail-handling proggies (msn & hotmail?). I'm mostly guessing (I dont have OE installed) webster72n wrote: Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided. But what about the 'mailhandler' issue? Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled? And, if so, why are they there? Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't. Rick webster72n wrote: One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick: Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs, both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled I can't click on them in order to make them default. Why is that? Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Rick: Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are they, for example? Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any. I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC), for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp (normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they update it. I doubt you'd have one and not know it. Rick Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message . .. webster72n wrote: "Rick T" wrote in message . .. heirloom wrote: Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that. Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on the server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server. Does that make sense?......I know I am confused! Heirloom, old and speculating me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed). That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too much space. OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom). Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail program functionality. No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if I am putting this correctly. When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let it 'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences. Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'. Thank you for your concern, Rick. Harry. Well, hope you got it worked out. Rick |
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What does that tell you about my reading the entire post? By looking for specific details in an answer I must be overlooking the important ones. My apologies, Rick. You probably are right and, henceforth, it most likely doesn't matter much, or at all. Let' consider this the conclusion of the subject. Thank you for hanging in there with me. Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Please refer to the first line of my previous post. Possibly a reference to MSN messenger? or maybe a stub for one of the webmail-handling proggies (msn & hotmail?). I'm mostly guessing (I dont have OE installed) webster72n wrote: Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided. But what about the 'mailhandler' issue? Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled? And, if so, why are they there? Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't. Rick webster72n wrote: One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick: Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs, both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled I can't click on them in order to make them default. Why is that? Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: Rick: Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are they, for example? Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any. I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC), for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp (normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they update it. I doubt you'd have one and not know it. Rick Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message . .. webster72n wrote: "Rick T" wrote in message . .. heirloom wrote: Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that. Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the on the server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server. Does that make sense?......I know I am confused! Heirloom, old and speculating me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed). That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too much space. OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom). Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail program functionality. No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if I am putting this correctly. When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let it 'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences. Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'. Thank you for your concern, Rick. Harry. Well, hope you got it worked out. Rick |
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webster72n wrote:
What does that tell you about my reading the entire post? By looking for specific details in an answer I must be overlooking the important ones. My apologies, Rick. You probably are right and, henceforth, it most likely doesn't matter much, or at all. Let' consider this the conclusion of the subject. Thank you for hanging in there with me. Harry. Now that you mention it I vaguely recall something about built-ins for OE for MSN & maybe Hotmail, but my brain is just a lump of vanilla pudding between my ears today, so no help there. Rick "Rick T" wrote in message ... Please refer to the first line of my previous post. Possibly a reference to MSN messenger? or maybe a stub for one of the webmail-handling proggies (msn & hotmail?). I'm mostly guessing (I dont have OE installed) webster72n wrote: Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided. But what about the 'mailhandler' issue? Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled? And, if so, why are they there? Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message ... Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't. Rick webster72n wrote: One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick: Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs, both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled I can't click on them in order to make them default. Why is that? Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message .. . webster72n wrote: Rick: Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are they, for example? Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any. I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC), for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp (normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they update it. I doubt you'd have one and not know it. Rick Harry. "Rick T" wrote in message . .. webster72n wrote: "Rick T" wrote in message l... heirloom wrote: Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that. Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the on the server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server. Does that make sense?......I know I am confused! Heirloom, old and speculating me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed). That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too much space. OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom). Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail program functionality. No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if I am putting this correctly. When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let it 'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences. Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'. Thank you for your concern, Rick. Harry. Well, hope you got it worked out. Rick |
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